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must have at least 40% hltv users using their flair

nip had era fnatic had era lg/sk had era astralis had era liquid had mini era /closed

I'm agree with you, for me 'ERA' it´s like LG/SK in 2016/2017 2 major in a row and winning big tournaments in the year

Era = when a team is the clear #1 for several months in a row

era is a french new age band

why does ppl think that navi didnt have a era? they literally won 8 tournaments last year, one being major and even got a grand slam :D also, 37 weeks in a row top 1, 2nd most after astralis' record

NaVi had an era, but it wasnt as dominant as the other teams. 53 weeks in top #1 is very good.

It's still subject to opinion and that's what makes these discussions interesting, like with GOAT/BOAT discussions, because it can never really be official. There is a general consensus that only three teams actually netted an "era": NiP invented and created it, fnatic capitalised on it by having one during a more competitive scene and Astralis' is seen as the most successful. The LG/SK era is contested by many users for not either being long enough or dominant enough to define era-defining dominance. It's the difference of being the best team in the world at that moment in time and having era-defining dominance; like Team Liquid or previous era-defining dominance teams being the number one team again.

There's been 4 eras till now. Nip, fnatic, luminosity/sk and astralis

navi also had half year era. still an era because of the timing that major came back and they won everything we probably dont want to accept navi era only because it was 6 months long, while for example Astralis, LG/SK and fnatic era lasted way longer

only nip, fnatic and Astralis had era honorable mention: sk /closed

NiP, Fnatic and Astralis all had true eras LG/SK had periods of dominance across a 2 year span but not always winning. Liquid had a 2 month period of dominance NaVi had 6 months period of dominance, but this cannot be salvaged anymore, you gotta pick up right where you left off if you want an era

Unbiased opinion, NAVI had an era

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Undisputed Eras(in order) Astralis 2018-early 2019 NiP 2012-early 2013 Fnatic 2015 On the Cusp of Era(needed a little more, also in order) NaVi 2021 SK 2017 Liquid 2019 Fnatic 2016 LG/SK 2016 Very Hard to Justify as Era, but still somewhat dominant(in order) FaZe late 2017-early 2018 Astralis late 2016-early 2017 Gambit 2021 Astralis late 2019 VeryGames/Titan late 2013-early 2014

astralis and fnatic only two eras /close

imo you need to win 2/3 Majors in a 3 Major span and apart from those 2 Majors in the same time frame you need at least 5 other events so far Faze have 1 Major and 2 Other events so not at an Era yet but are well on their way espicaly if they keep this performance level up just saying while he was 3rd in the leaderboard over the 2 maps this Final was Karrigan's Masterplan

3 majors in a row

A era just ends when a team loses a major like navi, their era lasted till this major, now it's faze era baby

nip era fnatic era sk/lum era astralis era thats it. You gotta win 2 majors. nip are the only exception due to winning 87 maps

Only nip Fnatic And astralis It is straight up impossible to change my mind

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Dominating for at least a year, winning majority of the big tournaments and 2+ majors. So NIP, Fnatic and Astralis clearly had an era, LG/SK is bit questionable but i would call it an era too. Liquid and Navi had a good run, dominating for half a year and being 2nd/3rd for pretty long time too but not era.

only era i know is BIG era

well, lg/sk won their first major in 2016, so its more than one year

Different take: An Era is a time at HLTV #1. Some teams just have really short eras like Gambit and Big.

Navi can't be considered to having an era yet at least, maybe more likely if you would have dominated this major. But lets look at things. Navi have won 3 tier 1 events and 1 major since the start of their "era". That's not a lot for the last 10 months. That does not seem very dominant and era defining to me.

Honestly I agree with your take. Was thinking about this myself and conclude the same. 1. Preferable two mAJORS back to back (this means Astralis, SK, Fnatic had an era, Nobody else did) 2. If not for 1, then at least 2 out of 3 majors in sequence so hopping over a major loss inbetween, they would need to be in the semi- or the finals at least of the losing major) 3. HLTV 1# position maintance To keep it simple and harsh just rule 1 and its done. Funny enough the French almost had an era with the core Kioshima, NBK and happy winning two majors. with only there rival fnatic inbetween but fnatic won two majors in a row. thats a leap too far so the french missed out on having an Era. seems fair? this means the old NIP never had an Era. so perhaps this is too harsh its just that the csgo bar has been raised of what it takes to have an era. to be fair back then there werent that many tournaments at the start when NIP ruled and dominated. so preferable we find a definition of an Era that includes past legends. because of the different time context. amount of tournaments, game updated etc

The following definition is coined by several: "A long period of history, marked by or known for distinctive character, events or developments." I got into (watching) this game, when Astralis1.0 were at the top of the world. Nowadays I just like some damn good cs: Congrats to FaZe! (I kept the flair though, but I'm a fan of great cs!) Don't know too much about the two Swedish predecessors, but I know enough to say that they were legit eras as well. SK? Not sure: Also "before my time". Liquid? Nope. They had a "dominating period", but it wasn't long enough. NaVi? Nope. It wasn't long enough, and as I have mentioned a few times: They have been the "biggest gorillaz" around, but there was nothing "special" characterising their "dominating period". Astralis1.0 set the bar sooooo high: 4 Majors and the 1st IGS 5 most winning cs go players of all time (S1mple caught up with Mag1sk) 18 mvp's for the star awp'er (S1mple caught up with dev1ce) +30 winstreak on Nuke, +20 winstreak on Inferno Utility usage: The entire world of cs go learned as good as everything they know today Approach to the game on AND off the server: Meta changing! An entire YEAR on top1 Now ... THAT'S an "era" !!! I could go on with Zon1c as the highest decorated coach and Gla1ve as the highest fragging IGL back then, but let's just conclude: It takes A LOT for any team to create an "era" after the Kings of Counter Strike or the "best team of all f**ing time!" I've seen a few comments in the above about "mini eras" ... 🙄 As you wish. FaZe at the moment are just looking awfully strong with no less than THREE trophies in a row in 2022. I'm not saying they have to "win everything for the next 3 years". Astralis1.0 for sure didn't "win everything". My point is: Astralis set the bar soooo high, so even if FaZe wins THREE Majors and a Grand Slam, top1 for 10 months ... 15 mvp's for rain or Robz ... yes, great, cool, fine, wonderful, impressive, wow ... but no. The "era of eras" ended with Astralis.

Winning a couple events ISNT an era

era starts when u 16-0 past era holders. astralis 16-0ed sk in the faceit major, so they have era

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ERA = Team needs to win 2 majors in a row, and have atleast 6-8 big tournaments before, in between and after.

2 majors minimum with majority of other big event wins over the year Navi didn't have an era (They did get fucked by Gambit for half a year and crumbled in GF vs Faze) Liquid didn't have an era (Can't believe people are still fighting about this) Gambit didn't have an era faze will 100% have an era and I am going to hate every second of it, but who tf is up to challenging them? IEM Dallas without Navi is literally a free win and Navi/CIS visa woes will likely continue to get worse. G2 looking like shit despite having one of the most individually talented rosters. Gambit completely crumbled at the major. NiP won't do shit without a serious awper. Astralis are dead. Vitality look terrible after their changes. Their greatest competition is FUCKING ENCE. AND ENCE WON'T EVEN HHHAVE SPINX AT IEM. IT'S A JOKE. ez4ence though.

Guys also i’d like to note that there was only one major last year.If there was two N Vi probably would have won that too.Such an unlucky team with what all that they are going thru.First corona then a war.

Era its when You win every S tier event. navi done this. now Faze are doing this...

For me Era would be for newer teams would be Grandslam + Major plus more than 150 days on no.1 spot on HLTV = Era. 150 cause I think fnatic was no.1 123 days or so. For older teams... there dominance has already been established LK, SK, NiP, fnatic. It's hard to quantify their eras. But I will say dominant runs with multiple trophies and major wins with at least 4 same players

Fnatic nip SK and astralis had their eras

wait until this year concludes... NaVi barelly had a year after that IGS and first Major win, their is nothing to really rate about that at THIS current time Also FaZe might be on the run to something so hold your horses boiis

needs to 10+ relevant events in a year. majors or grandslams don't matter

Astralis is the very definition of era: IMO back-to-back majors with an intel grand slam starting no sooner than the first major and ending no later than the second major can be defined as an era

NiP, Fnatic, Lumo/SK, Astralis. The only teams that had eras. Make no mistake.

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There is no real answer. People can always say what they think it is though. I'd say if a team straight dominates for for a year or so with several tourny wins, it was an era. But that's just how I see it myself. Others could think differently. VP had an era, Astralis had an era, Fnatic had an era, Liquid had an era. and SK Gaming had an era in my opinion. Now just because they had an era doesn't mean they were a dynasty. In my opinion it takes ALOOOOT to be labelled a Dynasty. The only team I'd label a dynasty is Astralis

idk, sk never had era

Nip Fnatic LG / SK Astralis All these teams have eras of their own. Closest teams to define an era would be old Envyus / LDLC, Liquid, Navi. And the team atm that looks to be the next challenger is Faze

Era: String of days/weeks/months/years being the best team in the world. There is no clear point in time where an era starts, there are small eras and longer eras

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LDLC/EnVyUS era is the best for me.

era: something liquid did not have

agreed. What i write after 'agreed' i have deleted. I mean, no need to add or take anything away from your entry. 1- "2 out of the last 3 majors should be won by the same team" 2- "maybe couple S tier should be won by the same team" if 2 of 3 Major, so most of S tier should be won by the same team. (maybe i just can add here this.)

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Alright, I was way to interested and did spend way too much time thinking about this. Meaning: probably a huge wall of text incoming, if you are not interested, just don't read it. I think, to make a generally valid definition of the word "era", it is needed to find all relevant criteria and work with that. I believe that for a team to be considered having an era, it needs 1. Holding the Top 1 Position in HLTVs Ranking for a certain amount of time 2. Holding said position for this time with only insignificant interruptions by other teams. 3. A certain amount of titles. 4. Winning the most significant achievements (Majors, Grand Slams) in the concerning timeframe 5. A certain amount of dominance in the concerning timeframe This makes the formula: Era = Top 1 Position + Uninterrupted + Number of Titles + Significance + Dominance However, the threshold that each team needs to fulfill each criterion, is and should be up to debate, in my opinion. Meaning: Even with a formula, as long as there aren't generally valid thresholds to be fulfilled, some teams still might or might not have had an era. Since I was way to interested, I looked into the most important CS:GO teams and looked up the stats. Will list it below with some comments. Team = Time holding the Top 1 position + % of holding the position in the timeframe + Number of titles + Significant Titles (Major, Grand Slam) + Dominance (% of tournament wins in the timeframe; Note: I started counting tournaments with the first win and ended with losing HLTVs Top 1 spot) Little disclaimer: Numbers might not 100% be correct, because I didnt want to spend hours by searching every exact detail, but they will definitly give a general idea Astralis (04/2018 - 05/2019) = 13 months + 100% + 11 titles + 2 majors and 1 grand slam + 61% However, one could also see the Astralis era spanning in a different interval: Astralis (04/2018 - 03/2020) = 18 months + 72% + 15 titles + 3 majors and 1 grand slam + 53% fnatic (approx. 08/2014 - 04/2016) = ? months (due to HLTVs ranking not being introduced before October 2015) + 70% (since 10/2015) + 16 titles + 2 majors + 53% NiP (approx. 08/2012 - approx. 09/2013) = ? months (s. above) + ? + 16 titles + nothing + 88% Note that there were no Majors up to 11/2013, meaning that NiP couldnt have won anything but normal tournaments. I also included some smaller tournaments due to there not being a lot of big tournaments in 2012. NaVi (07/2021 - 04/2022) = 9 months + 100% + 6 titles + 1 major and 1 grand slam + 66% LG/SK could be measured in 3 different ways and lead to different results depending on the chosen threshold for each criterion: LG/SK, V. 1 (05/2016 - 11/2016) = 6 months + 91% + 3 titles + 2 majors + 33% SK, V. 2 (06/2017 - 01/2018) = 8 months + 87% + 8 titles + nothing + 50% LG/SK, V.3 (05/2016 - 01/2018) = 14 months + 66% + 12 titles + 2 majors + 37% Liquid (06/2019 - 09/2019) = 4 months + 100% + 6 titles + 1 grand slam + 75% Now, for my own personal evaluation of the needed threshold of said criteria: 1. I believe that longevity is very important, and wouldn't consider a team which wasn't Top 1 for at least a year as having an era (meaning: no era for NaVi, LG/SK V. 1 and 2, Liquid) 2. Interruption - I also believe this to be very important - imo, the teams should probably have 75% time as the Nr. 1 team (meaning: I think the first definition of an Astralis era is better than the second, also means no era for LG/SK V.3) 3. Number of Titles - imo not as important, due to varying number of tournaments in different timespans. Imo 5 titles are already enough. 4. Significance - Imo, teams should win the most important tournaments in their dominant timespan, meaning: as long as there are majors (relevant for everyone but NiP), the team should have won one. Same goes for Grand Slams. 5. Dominance - I believe that a winrate of 50% might be a good (but harsh) threshold. Well, that was way too much text... in the end, per my threshold only Astralis, fnatic and NiP had an era, but everyone might choose his own threshold value for every criterion. Tl;dr: Era = Top 1 Position + Uninterrupted by other Teams + Number of Titles + Significance of Tournament Wins (Majors, Grand Slams) + Dominance Since there is no generally valid threshold of each criterion, some teams might or might not have had an era, depending on the threshold chosen.