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Devve ASTRALIS / NIP
Portugal Worth3d 
2021 Major - Astralis didn't make it to playoffs 2022 Major - Astralis / Vitality where his former teammates are, didn't make it to playoffs People who still say that device was overrated. Look at his teammates not making it twice with the same members ( 2021 ) and now in 2022 in different teams without him. People who still call devve overrated and boosted by gla1ve mastermind. Well, they didn't make into any playoffs after he left and he did, on the major he played without them ( 2021 ofc ). He also had more success until he decided to go in his 'break'. He got 1 mvp ( *A* tier event, some teams missing), attended to 4 different finals and he pushed a team that was top 13 to top 2, they were top 1 contender for few weeks and people that will say ' astralis and vitality new lineups ' - NIP changed their lineup 3 times ( 2 of those = academy players ) in 6 months. Thanks for reading :)
2022-05-25 12:52
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#1
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Australia B_Tannen
And now we need to think about if Zonic carried gla1ve.
2022-05-25 12:53
5 replies
Zonic carried GLa1ve who carried Device who carried Astralis who carried Device
2022-05-25 12:55
4 replies
#40
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Sweden crittaN
Sooo, they were a solid team with great synergy who all made each other better with incredible teamwork and chemistry?
2022-05-25 19:08
3 replies
pretty much yeah
2022-05-25 19:10
pretty much yeah
2022-05-25 19:48
#46
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Netherlands arTvamp
yeap
2022-05-26 10:15
Device most under rated player of all time. Easily one of the goats. If he comes back NIP top 3 EZ
2022-05-25 12:54
9 replies
#7
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
yup
2022-05-25 12:58
definitely not underrated (8 HLTV top 20 and 19 MVP) but most forgetable top 10 players of all time for sure
2022-05-25 13:00
3 replies
Not really. People always put devve in their top 10 players of all time right after s1mple. Or atleast in top 5. Otherwise they are being delusional
2022-05-25 13:04
2 replies
nah, olof cold gtr f0rest kennys are mentioned more often then devve
2022-05-25 13:55
1 reply
Not really. These guys are much more forgettable than device. Not olof, but cold forest definitely
2022-05-26 22:45
+1 a few months of not playing and the entire community turns on him :/
2022-05-25 13:10
#34
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
underrated ????????? everyone hates on him because hes so good and isnt playing. If he was underrated there wouldnt be 5 threads about him every day he wouldve just disappeared and no one would care. How the fuck can a guy who gets brought up in every GOAT conversation be underrated
2022-05-25 14:13
1 reply
+1 although his situation has become a bit of meme, i wouldnt say its mocking anything hes achieved in his career
2022-05-25 19:00
He's literally the 2nd best player of all time how is he underrated
2022-05-25 19:06
TL:DR - Zonic carried entire Astralis
2022-05-25 12:56
8 replies
and yet cant utilize ZywOo, or something is wrong
2022-05-25 12:58
4 replies
#8
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
agreed.
2022-05-25 12:58
#29
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Czech Republic TECHNICKER
yeah, it's weird
2022-05-25 13:44
give him more than few months to convince Vitality org that apex is a burden and as long as you have mentally unstable IGL as a worst player holding on to best positions on maps - you can never win. Which team has their worst player on outside Nuke? Mirage connector? Give me one team in top 100 in which their BY FAR the worst player does that.
2022-05-25 14:11
#47
Zeus | 
India ELEXR
Stittes decision by vitality tho.
2022-05-26 22:25
#9
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
should have won major before gla1ve than. more likely both multiplied each others strengths
2022-05-25 12:59
2 replies
exactly
2022-05-25 13:00
gla1ve kinda forgot how to call since Zonic left, he can't seem to put players in right positions - most passive player plays roles where you need to be assertive, awpers play as anchors.... he plays awp too....
2022-05-25 14:12
They were already trending downwards as a whole when Device left, they would've spiraled down regardless(probably a bit slower but anyways). He is good player of course, but he wouldn't have kept Astralis alive if he had stayed
2022-05-25 12:57
No one carried in Astralis. Every player did their job.
2022-05-25 12:59
6 replies
#18
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
I beg to differ. Just as many as crucial rounds Xyps saved for Astralis. Dev1ce did too. Vertigo in 2019 ... Astralis started 0-4 . It was dev1ce who turned the tides. without that round by Dev1ce, Astralis greatest counter play would have been a meme. Next map against NRG. his iconic 1v4 Deg kills on train. Dev1ce was the Consistent Superstar who map in and map out gave them solid footing in the game.
2022-05-25 13:07
4 replies
#23
JK | 
Asia flipflop
so dupreeh didn't have any major contribution? Neither magisk? Kjaerbye given free mvp? Magisk robbed device's mvp? why it's so hard to respect a good roster?
2022-05-25 13:20
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#26
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Respect a good roster.... Dude I love them so much (all 7). That now I follow NiP for Device and Vitality for Dupreeh, Magisk, Zonic. Also Kjaerbye on Twitter.( I didnt do that for longest. but when they made up. I was happy). Astralis as a roster was great. All the 5 of them were the best at what they did. each a superstar in their rights but Dev1ce was still above them all. He gave team stability and consistency. Dupreeh can miss his entry, Magisk can miss his lurk, Xyp can miss his clutch but as long as Dev1ce was there was nothing to Fear. Dev1ce was the reason s1mple didnt run amok all time on Astralis. He was the glue that kept them all together. As soon as he left all hell broke lose. Just a month or 2 ago (before device left), Me and my childhood best friend had decided we will be going to stockholm Major to see them play. Never know when would the last time they play together. I already told my fiancé that we arent getting married this year. was a pretty shit day for both of us when we came to know about the transfer.
2022-05-25 13:31
2 replies
^:D
2022-05-25 18:54
1 reply
#45
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Ya... it was a tough conversation to tell her... that wedding is back on track. All she said was... Dev1ce ... I said Dev1ce. That's it
2022-05-26 10:14
#19
JK | 
Asia flipflop
your 2 lines explains why astralis is so successful but some people just don't see it.
2022-05-25 13:09
#11
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Europe ENCE_LOVER
i mean rn he's not playing at all, so you can't compare him to others. irrelevant post.
2022-05-25 13:00
1 reply
I'm literally comparing 2021 as well lmao. Don't try to be smartass without presenting any valid argument. Help yourself out of the post
2022-05-25 13:00
#15
JK | 
Asia flipflop
Astralis didn't even find a t1 awper since device left... What's the base of this argument??
2022-05-25 13:02
3 replies
Neither did NIP find a decent t1 support/entry/lurker player for NIP in 6 months. What's your argument? And this year? They have farlig who literally was the only player being useful alongside blameF Same for vitality with Zywoo What's the base of your co argument?
2022-05-25 13:06
2 replies
#21
JK | 
Asia flipflop
I'm sorry bro... device was playing 1v9 in astralis, device was playing 1v9 in nip.
2022-05-25 13:15
1 reply
I never said that ;). You see. You don't even understand the post at all. The only thing i meant to say with the post is that people that call device overrated should really look at the big picture and stop being tunnel vision. Not that he has carried either team. So yes, instead of trying to co argue, bring arguments next time. Have a great afternoon buddy
2022-05-25 13:17
device was the literal definition of a backbone. im a fan of him since his early rifler days as my name shows. he used to be that flashy hybrid player who could do everything but was inconsistent and dissapered a lot of times (semifinal chokers) and he just transformed into a reliable , consistent backbone. i love his way of playing. no one back at the time had the idea of doing it this way (some exceptions like skadoodle etc) it was more like a guardian, fallen, kennys, jw, s1mple falshy type awper era. but he changed it. single-handedly with his team. thanks to him, the awp is where it is today. + i loved to see the styles clash in matches, him against aggro awpers etc. was always super cool. playing against this astralis back then was no fun. you face 4 insane riflers and when you were able to beat them all you had this awper in your face and you died. xd insane
2022-05-25 13:22
draken nip
2022-05-25 13:22
#27
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Romania Ghostpawn
astralis without device is bad, device without astralis is bad
2022-05-25 13:33
reunite old astralis and see them fail now they just had a good run and are nowhere close to that level anymore, all of them so this doesn't make device not overrated
2022-05-25 13:40
devve GOAT
2022-05-25 14:12
penta device
2022-05-25 19:01
#38
i am | 
Europe Zinn0
Made nip good, but brollan did them better
2022-05-25 19:04
1 reply
Idk about that one, we will see
2022-05-28 07:25
I really hope dev1ce doesn't go back to Astralis. Of course I might be biased as a NIP fan, but honestly I think NIP with devve (instead of plopski) >>> Astralis with devve (instead of xyp). If he leaves I hope he goes to some team like Heroic which he would make #1 over night.
2022-05-25 19:12
Why do people call him devve? Just call him dev0ce, ecolai or botvice.
2022-05-25 19:15
1 reply
Not everyone is you and we should respect everyone's personal conscience
2022-05-28 07:31
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