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Top 10 IGLs of all time in CSGO
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Finland DTeeVee 
1. gla1ve 2. karrigan 3. FalleN 4. Zeus 5. pronax 6. Happy 7. TaZ 8. Xizt 9. Ex6TenZ 10. MSL
2022-05-25 23:08
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#1
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Brazil Diabo
1. Stewie2k
2022-05-25 23:09
7 replies
+1
2022-05-26 01:20
not very good, maybe at #11 but still good
2022-05-27 21:49
1 reply
#267
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Brazil Ties4
He is being ironic, wtf.
2022-05-28 20:35
+1
2022-05-28 01:35
IDK most of his achievements were achieved with him not IGL'ing
2022-05-28 19:04
+1 unironically
2022-05-28 23:21
tfw stwie didn't igl in the major he won, didn't igl during grand slam run, basically never igled when it mattered. he is no more an igl than flusha, only time he called in the past was in transition periods and it was temporary.
2022-05-29 13:42
where's NiKo?
2022-05-25 23:09
5 replies
still stuck in heaven trying to headshot someone not moving
2022-05-26 01:00
4 replies
#59
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Australia Aleclol
ooooooooooooooooffff
2022-05-26 01:17
damn
2022-05-26 12:59
#179
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Portugal k0ngo
damn
2022-05-27 14:32
ahahahahhahaha
2022-05-27 21:28
gla1ve and pronax hella overrated. ex6tenz criminally underrated
2022-05-25 23:10
51 replies
#17
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Sweden morotN
how are gla1ve and pronax overrated? especially gla1ve????
2022-05-25 23:29
16 replies
gla1ve only did good with 1 lineup that was actually built by karrigan, karrigan top 1 and gla1ve is quite a bit behind him
2022-05-26 00:45
14 replies
doesnt make sense at all cant argue against gla1ve no.1
2022-05-26 00:59
#55
gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
Karrigan didn't build Astralis. Fetish was the original IGL to get Device, Dupreeh and Xyp9x together. Karrigan only introduced a mediocre CajunB. Gla1ve was the one who added Kjaerbye and later Magisk. If Anything, the fact that Karrigan basically achieved nothing with Astralis is a large negative on his side. Edit: What i said about CajunB isn't even true. He played with Device and Dupreeh before.
2022-05-26 01:11
10 replies
#83
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India Nijer
As far as I remember it was zonic who always had a saying in roster changes
2022-05-26 12:39
#129
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Korea HullU
Kyaerbye was signed first, then glaive ;)
2022-05-26 15:06
3 replies
But Gla1ve was already stand-in before Kjaerbye joined
2022-05-26 15:08
2 replies
WoW, i wrote to myself on accident
2022-05-26 15:11
#141
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Korea HullU
glaive was a stand-in for kjaerbye in cologne 2016, cus kjaerbye already attended the major with dignitas
2022-05-26 15:21
cajunB was the star player of the roster with device, wdym mediocre
2022-05-26 15:08
2 replies
Dupreeh had better stats and was playing worse positions he wasn't signed as the star, he was just someone to fill the gap. Given star roles but couldn't use them properly.
2022-05-26 15:11
1 reply
#145
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China RADNIKEY
cajunb perhaps wasn’t a star player but he was definitely not just mediocre
2022-05-26 15:27
Karrigan made devve switch to AWP from rifle, also he has the one who found kjaerbye and gla1ve (gla1ve standed in for astralis before karrigan left)
2022-05-29 05:39
1 reply
Device was already awping before, in 2014 his 2nd most used weapon was the awp. (Karrigan joined in 2015) even more then the m4. He just wasn't awping on t-side like ever. Because well that was kind of the meta if you didn't have a god awper. Karrigan could be credited with getting Device to awp more, but we don't know how involved he was in that or if Device just felt more confident with buying it. But he certainly wasn't the one who made Device an awper. Also as far as im aware it was also Device who suggested Gla1ve as a stand-in as both of them are long time friends.
2022-05-29 14:38
+1
2022-05-26 12:14
For me karrigan is also above glaive Karrigan has made so many lineups good, glaive only one
2022-05-27 21:38
especially Pronax*
2022-05-26 14:21
4 times major winner igl is overrated. KEKW
2022-05-25 23:30
23 replies
Because people forget fast Gla1ve is unmotivated and it shows, so people assume he isn't a good IGL and the only reason Astralis won anything was because of the others
2022-05-25 23:37
16 replies
+1
2022-05-26 12:23
Nah because gla1ve had a incredibly well set up team and most of the credit he’s given should really be given to zonic. An IGL like Karrigan took a defeated mouz and made it a number 2 team, all gla1ve did was keep a top 3 team in the top3 with the help of one of the best coaching staff and some of the best players in history
2022-05-26 12:36
14 replies
How can you know if it was all done by zonic or gla1ve? That's a high dose of copium xd
2022-05-26 13:05
13 replies
Because he’s still got tonnes of firepower in k0nfig farlig and blameF but fails to achieve anything since zonic left
2022-05-26 14:54
6 replies
And what did zonic achieve after leaving astralis? He has even more firepower than current astralis cuz he has fucking zywoo and magisk/dupreeh in the team.
2022-05-27 14:14
4 replies
bias from the flag zonic switched to english
2022-05-27 20:12
2 replies
yes, bias when both players are danes =DDDD so what?
2022-05-27 20:23
1 reply
one switched to english nt
2022-05-27 20:23
magisk dupreeh falling off a bit / dont work in apex team strucutre. zywoo is pretty mediocre atm despite his stats cus he needs the system to work around him. vitality issue is deffo not with zonic
2022-05-28 01:54
k0nfig, an incredibly inconsistent entry fragger whose success determines the team's success farlig, an awper who does incredibly aggressive plays with little success and drops the ball like a fucking 200kg barbell on plenty of occassions blamef who's actually a fucking machine and don't forget xyp who struggles to keep >0.9 on lans you can't possibly expect gla1ve to do anything playing 4v5 and sometimes even 3v5 if he's not feeling the game
2022-05-28 02:00
#127 and because players who left themselves credit zonic more than glaive if you listen to their old voice comms (2020-early21) it isnt even glaive calling the strats
2022-05-26 15:10
5 replies
#151
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Czech Republic Evis1337
yeah.. magisk used to call a lot at some point too.
2022-05-26 15:32
>old voice comms >2020-2021 their prime was 2017-2018, who cares about something that was 1 or 2 years ago when they became irrelevant kek
2022-05-27 14:16
3 replies
old voice comms as in before the current astralis roster and astralis was the #1 team in early 2020
2022-05-27 14:23
2 replies
yes cuz they still had points from 2019? They won iem global, DH winter, epl and rtr tournament xd
2022-05-27 14:52
1 reply
still #1, what's your point
2022-05-27 15:46
what is this 4 time major winning igl doing now?
2022-05-26 12:40
5 replies
not that much, but the list is about all time igls, not igls rn.
2022-05-26 13:27
1 reply
#177
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Germany Fabbsen
As much as i am an Astralis fan and a fan of Gla1ve Karrigan is the #1. Was relevant before Gla1ve got his success and he brought so much teams to the top you can't deny it. Gla1ve is still clear second tho
2022-05-27 14:29
so michael jordan is overrated because he was bad in Washington Wizards? By your logic his 6 Champ is meaningless because he wasn't as good in Washington and therefore shouldn't be in the goat debate.
2022-05-26 14:17
2 replies
#207
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Netherlands Venicious
+1 lmao
2022-05-27 21:25
Came here to post this exact comment. Sporting goats often have most or all of their success in a single team. It's not a knock against their greatness
2022-05-28 04:21
pronax 100% not, overrated. his system may have been loose but there was a lot of diff when he was IGL and he was not
2022-05-26 00:40
nt thorin
2022-05-26 01:51
1 reply
#146
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China RADNIKEY
You may be on to something there
2022-05-26 15:27
he never turned up on the big LANs
2022-05-26 13:07
LMAO delusional
2022-05-26 16:43
How are you even comparing 4 and 3 times major winners to someone that was relevant for 1year
2022-05-26 17:10
How is pronax overrated, fnatic was never as good with Dennis, golden, flusha or xizt than with pronax
2022-05-29 05:36
2 replies
A lot of the igl credit pronax gets is actually a lot of flusha calling. Dennis lineup once pronax left was better for sure
2022-05-29 12:14
1 reply
Yes but no b2b majors nor even 1 after pronax
2022-05-29 13:33
gla1ve litterally changed the whole way the game is played
2022-05-29 13:37
where is GOAT Aleksib
2022-05-25 23:10
3 replies
home maybe
2022-05-25 23:19
1 reply
#19
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Belgium TomDew
himas?
2022-05-25 23:31
looooool only top 10 igl list he's topping is overrated
2022-05-26 13:23
#5
RpK | 
France HippzZ
Ex6tenz deserves to be ranked higher, he was the first to create a real structured playbook for his team
2022-05-25 23:13
3 replies
too bad that book didn't work.
2022-05-25 23:43
1 reply
#49
RpK | 
France HippzZ
Yeah feels bad man
2022-05-26 00:57
#110
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Hungary TheBudi34
+1
2022-05-26 13:19
Allu!
2022-05-25 23:19
#8
fnx | 
Russia P0vTr
1. karrigan
2022-05-25 23:20
11 replies
#9
fnx | 
Russia P0vTr
2. Stewie2K
2022-05-25 23:20
10 replies
#10
fnx | 
Russia P0vTr
3. NiKo
2022-05-25 23:20
9 replies
4. S1mple
2022-05-26 00:49
8 replies
#44
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
5. elige
2022-05-26 00:51
7 replies
6. fnx
2022-05-26 00:57
6 replies
7. jabbi
2022-05-26 13:08
5 replies
8. Hunden
2022-05-26 13:10
8. TACO
2022-05-26 13:13
3 replies
C'mon guys the best igl ever is clearly kng
2022-05-26 13:29
1 reply
#171
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Brazil Zzards
His best achievement as igl: Almost defeated Astralis on a bo3
2022-05-27 01:11
0. JW
2022-05-28 01:37
alex would disagree with number 6
2022-05-25 23:21
1- SANJI
2022-05-25 23:21
4 replies
wtf not an igl
2022-05-25 23:42
2 replies
He's an in game lender. what you on about.
2022-05-26 12:33
1 reply
Lmao
2022-05-26 13:03
2. JISAN
2022-05-28 01:38
#13
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China Zhusha
pretty good list actually i would put ex6tenz at 6. though
2022-05-25 23:23
-zeus +nafany
2022-05-25 23:24
2 replies
lmao
2022-05-25 23:41
#34
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Denmark Baxebondi
Zeus gambit = 1 major Nafany gambit = 0 major
2022-05-25 23:45
#15
CeRq | 
Australia NoLeS
Actually based list +1
2022-05-25 23:24
2 replies
Agree with thatn expect TAZ, it is known that the IGL for VP was swapping between taz snax neo, possibly even pasha so much, just like who had their awp that saying TAZ was top tier IGL is pretty dumb imo
2022-05-25 23:27
1 reply
#45
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Poland Berbe123
TaZ was their igl during the most successful times:) And neo was there in between
2022-05-26 00:55
#20
fnx | 
Brazil r0ccky
fallen 2 majors bro. 1- gla1ve 2- fallen 3- karrigan ...
2022-05-25 23:33
6 replies
pronax 3 majors bro. 1-gla1ve 2-pronax 3-fallen ...
2022-05-25 23:38
4 replies
#30
fnx | 
Brazil r0ccky
agree
2022-05-25 23:42
2 replies
#36
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Spain VIKTORAL
lmao this guy switched up quickly
2022-05-25 23:52
1 reply
#261
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Brazil GooseOp
he didn't switch, he kept following the major logic
2022-05-28 19:10
1. kNg 2. Glaive
2022-05-28 01:39
flag 0/8 fallen = 3
2022-05-27 20:13
msl xizt over aleksib ahHHAHAHFUIAIUSYFIUAFAFUIASHUIFUISHDFHUISDF
2022-05-25 23:36
5 replies
MSL 5 trophies + 1 mvp, aleksib 2 trophies 0 mvp xizt not even a question
2022-05-25 23:40
3 replies
msl, 1 tier 1 tournament win, aleksib major final, 5 tier 1 finals + tier 1 tournament win over prime astralis.
2022-05-25 23:48
2 replies
Old blast tournaments were not tier1, they were all invite only and played bo1's that ended with a final. It was a joke format.
2022-05-25 23:59
msl won vs prime astralis too.. 16-1
2022-05-26 12:21
Aleksi fans coping as usual... he cant even win with Niko Hunter Jackz and m0nesy
2022-05-26 16:44
glaive fallen xist karrigan pronax idk
2022-05-25 23:36
one of the few lists on hltv i actually agree with, goob job
2022-05-25 23:39
#27
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Brazil doubo
1- gla1ve 2- fallen 3- karrigan 4- pronax
2022-05-25 23:41
2 replies
#153
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Czech Republic Evis1337
karrigan fallen pronax ... glaive (scuffed, not even an igl, carried by device, zonic and dupreeh)
2022-05-26 15:35
1 reply
1. stewie2k
2022-05-28 01:39
#31
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Germany galaxyshit
where's the gobfather
2022-05-25 23:43
#33
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Brazil dio_scuro
does coldzera play baseball?
2022-05-25 23:43
3 replies
#38
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United States Bernie8817
Hasn’t achieved shit as an igl
2022-05-25 23:58
coldzera igl kkkkkk ganhou oq?
2022-05-26 00:56
he wishes
2022-05-26 12:57
#37
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Poland luxurS
TaZ isn't IGL, in Virtus.pro IGL was NEO
2022-05-25 23:54
3 replies
#47
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Poland Berbe123
Taz was igl 2014-15 then Neo and TaZ took IGL role again in 2017
2022-05-26 00:56
2 replies
During Katowice 2014 NEO was IGL. Basically NEO was IGL-ing during biggest VP runs
2022-05-26 02:07
1 reply
#111
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Hungary TheBudi34
+1
2022-05-26 13:22
where is gob b dude?
2022-05-26 00:47
4 replies
+1 gob b very underrated
2022-05-26 13:19
1 reply
yes! dude made a hole new tactical system in cs and was a legend in mouse and big at some point.
2022-05-26 16:59
#178
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Brazil 2de
he's telling owen no to go heaven
2022-05-27 14:30
1 reply
if you are smoked it dosent matter!! :))
2022-05-27 18:05
Jame
2022-05-26 00:55
#50
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United States Virgin Islands Mykolkaa
Apex??? Hello?? Look how many trophies. 1 major trophy too
2022-05-26 00:57
4 replies
He wasnt even the igl when he won that lol.
2022-05-26 01:12
#57
gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
Apex only started being IGL in 2020 hltv.org/news/29210/apex-becomes-vitalit.. I believe that's the first time ever, except doing some stand-in and assisting with mid round calls.
2022-05-26 01:14
2 replies
#64
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United States Virgin Islands Mykolkaa
I actually didnt know that. Thx
2022-05-26 01:48
1 reply
#65
gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
We can't know everything!
2022-05-26 01:48
I don't agree with karrigan in front of the fallen, the fallen won two majors, the major for me has a very big weight
2022-05-26 01:05
14 replies
Karrigan had many good teams as IGL. Mouz , faze , tsm. Also karrigan did it internationaly , which is harder. Fallen only had SK which was the best because of their players ( coldzera fallen fer all were top5 players at that time ). Id say they are equal , fallen is better in skill , and karrigan better at calls.
2022-05-26 01:15
13 replies
#68
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Brazil dio_scuro
"Fallen only had SK which was the best because of their players" lol, the players on SK/LG were good bcs of Fallen, look for Coldzera and Fer playing without him, their performance is way inferior. imo, fallen > karrigan and pronax, these have always commanded players who have always been good individually.
2022-05-26 01:54
4 replies
Fer was always good with or without fallen but he didnt get the chance to play tier1 cs with any other igl than fallen to show that after 2018 And even if im a fan of coldzera i must admit that he is washed up. He just had 2 good years and thats it for his carrer , he has gone so down. There are better players now in brazil and even fallen wouldnt make him good again like he used to be. It was not about fallen igl skills only in SK , the whole team was build around him. If fallen was that good of an igl he should have made liquid work too no?
2022-05-26 12:20
2 replies
#121
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Brazil Frez7y
Have u seen fer in 00 by any chance?
2022-05-26 14:19
1 reply
Were 00 tier1 to watch them?
2022-05-27 01:02
You proved his point. Fallen couldn't make it work without having the proper roster he had before. Karrigan on the other hand made it work in different rosters like faze,mouz and then faze again. The same logic of having best players is not enough, an igl is crucial works here too.
2022-05-26 12:39
it's no use having the best players, if the IGL doesn't know how to use them properly, the IGL has a fundamental role in this, karrigan also has the best players today, but I understand your comment :)
2022-05-26 02:10
7 replies
You think that faze players are the best players today? Cold was #1 , fer was #3 , fallen #2 in top20. Faze only has 2 top5 players at best.
2022-05-26 12:17
6 replies
twistzz at his peak was 9?
2022-05-27 20:15
1 reply
Yeah he was , like 3 years ago
2022-05-27 23:48
#214
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Brazil _Awper
Newfrog? Look at 2017, SK players got higher ranking because they kept winning against Karrigan's Faze... #1 Coldzera vs #2 NiKo #3 Fer vs #4 Rain #6 Fallen vs #9 GuardiaN #18 Boltz vs #19 Olofmeister You are trying to sound like Karrigan didn't have the absolute best international lineups every time.
2022-05-27 21:53
3 replies
all of them spoke english as 2nd language so nt
2022-05-27 23:52
2 replies
#226
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Brazil _Awper
I don't care?
2022-05-28 01:03
#262
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Brazil GooseOp
lmao name
2022-05-28 19:15
#60
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Brazil FizzaNow
That might be a joke. Nobody puts KNG in The top 3. Come on guys!!!
2022-05-26 01:17
1 reply
#223
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Brazil Anarchybr
Lmao
2022-05-27 23:56
11 neo 12 gobb
2022-05-26 01:21
TAZ
2022-05-26 01:51
Fallen 2 time Major Champion top 2/3 hltv >>> Karrigan - rest I agree
2022-05-26 01:57
karrigan not even top5
2022-05-26 02:04
#71
mSx | 
Latvia CVJMZ
Nice bait thread Gob b not even on top10igls all time? Bullshit
2022-05-26 02:06
TACO deserves to be on the list.
2022-05-26 12:15
9 replies
Lmao, not even top 50
2022-05-26 12:50
8 replies
you mad cuz chrisJ will never be as good as TACO.
2022-05-26 12:52
7 replies
+TACO is balding but at least he still got some hair lmao
2022-05-26 12:52
Lol, I barely care about either of the players you mentioned xD
2022-05-26 12:54
5 replies
then why u so mad abaout TACO being the greatest IGL of all time?
2022-05-26 12:56
4 replies
Nt TACO, even you can't say that with a straight face lmao
2022-05-26 12:56
3 replies
you’re just a hater
2022-05-26 13:00
2 replies
No. You're just a delusional fanboy :) As if it wasn't known already xD
2022-05-26 13:07
1 reply
i’m a close friend of him, not a delusional fanboy lol
2022-05-26 13:09
1. gla1ve 2. karrigan 3. FalleN seems accurate.
2022-05-26 12:54
FalleN >> Karrigan
2022-05-26 12:55
3 replies
flag flag
2022-05-27 20:15
2 replies
and? kkkk
2022-05-27 22:29
1 reply
biased opinion rejected
2022-05-27 22:46
4. apEX 9. tabseN 10. chopper
2022-05-26 13:01
+1
2022-05-26 13:03
where blamef??? very good igl imo
2022-05-26 13:16
#107
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Finland HARD4ENCE
In terms of in-game-leading ability I think Karrigan is the best. He's made it work with multiple lineups and made most/all of them trophy winners/contenders. Even when the pieces of those teams were somewhat mediocre like the 2019 Mouz lineup.
2022-05-26 13:18
#109
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South Africa Kirchir
+ hampus / nafany :D (obv not top 10 but yeah :P ) inexperienced but I enjoy their style and they can only get better from here! Hope everyone has a lovely week further! Stay safe and hydrated <3
2022-05-26 13:19
4 replies
in csgo i do think nafany is deserving of a top 10 and hampus maybe not top 10 in calls, but damn the man is a monstruous fragger for an IGL.
2022-05-26 15:21
3 replies
#144
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South Africa Kirchir
I agree, when hampus is in the zone it's sickkkk :D
2022-05-26 15:26
Listening from the team speak recorded and posted on youtube by NiP his game sense and calls are quite on point. Maybe not the best in the world but definitely over average, and of course he’s called the most annoying player to play against in counter-strike so I guess that’s good. If he continues like this he’s for sure a future top 10
2022-05-27 14:24
1 reply
I hope so, he is such a treat to watch, and outcalled many IGLs when he was on point from what I have watched.
2022-05-27 20:09
#112
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Turkey kwhrajex
where is god b
2022-05-26 13:23
#114
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Poland bot_taz
For majority of time Taz wasn't IGL in VP it was NEO.
2022-05-26 13:24
1 reply
But he was IGL during Pentagrams/MYM/G5 success in 1.6.
2022-05-28 23:01
I hope ART can enter this list one day. The problem is that furia have to start winning titles for this to happen. The same goes for NAFANY
2022-05-26 13:26
#118
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France Azimutt
Switch Happy by ex6tenz and good list
2022-05-26 13:32
#119
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Sweden noddyy
1. glaive 2. xizt 3. pronax 4. neo 5. fallen 6. karrigan 7. zeus 8. gob b 9. art 10. apex
2022-05-26 13:34
3 replies
I love Xizt but #2 is absurd!
2022-05-26 14:56
2 replies
look at his flag
2022-05-27 18:15
1 reply
He still ranked Xizt above pronax.
2022-05-27 19:33
birdfromKFC top 1
2022-05-26 14:20
Ex6tenZ over Happy, i know Happy won the major but without Ex6 IGL role will not be what it is today. ask gla1ve
2022-05-26 14:23
#125
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Korea Axiotimos
Where the hell is boombl4? I know youguys believe he does nothing but he is still the igl of a team that dominated a year & have been inside world top3 for 3 years and counting
2022-05-26 14:36
4 replies
#152
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China RADNIKEY
You answered our own question not to mention that Na’vi has definitely not been in the top 3 for his entire tenure as IGL.
2022-05-26 15:33
3 replies
#154
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Korea Axiotimos
He became an IGL of navi on September 2019. And navi became a top 3-ish team on the start of 2020. After then, 2020 - top3 2021 - top1 2022 - top2 3 years might be a bit of an exaggeration but at least two and a half years.
2022-05-26 15:37
2 replies
Because he aint that good of an IGL, he surely is good, probably, but b1ad3 did most of the work for a ton of time, and that team is made of many smart players, and s1mple and electronic make calls when needed. Many times NAVI had lost rounds on bad calls, not that they are all from boombl4, but he doesnt have that much voice on that team from what I've seen. But I dont understand their language, so Im probably talking shit.
2022-05-27 20:12
1 reply
#225
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Brazil Anarchybr
+1
2022-05-27 23:58
wave???
2022-05-26 14:38
karrigan 1 though
2022-05-26 15:08
2 replies
#138
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Czech Republic poledne
based on what? he literererly had like 3 chances of wining major nad many more of geting there nad yeat he always failed even tho he is always with best of best teams
2022-05-26 15:15
4 Majors say otherwise
2022-05-26 16:45
#136
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Russia NextiLizm
tabsennn
2022-05-26 15:14
#137
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Czech Republic poledne
this is soo off .. i mean based on how many majors karigen lost nad how many chances he had had and the fact he need 4 legends like broky twtitsz rian and ropz to win is a joke they are ltierlerly the best team moeny can buy with overhyped igl ...
2022-05-26 15:14
6 replies
#140
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Slovakia AdorrioN
Calling broky and rain legends lmao. Faze are where they are because of the grind and karrigan is a huge part of their success
2022-05-26 15:18
5 replies
#157
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Czech Republic poledne
... broky is literrely one of the main reasons they are wherer they are and rain ltierely won them the maojir not karigen calling but rain killing everonye and geting avarege score of 1.22
2022-05-26 15:52
4 replies
#162
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Slovakia AdorrioN
And you think broky came to faze as some expensive superstar? karrigan is a huge part of his development. And yes, karrigan calling was instrumental for their major win. You can't get team working without good calling. Every successful team ever has had quality IGL. Pronax, Fallen, gla1ve, etc
2022-05-26 16:39
3 replies
#163
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Czech Republic poledne
noh edind´´t but that was like 2-3 years ago and everyone said he is the main reason him nad niko nearly won alot of stuf i mean if only oldzera was good they would have major but he was not good when he came same as olaf ... oyu need good player now not osmone who was good 2 years ago
2022-05-26 16:42
2 replies
Ahaha, you still going with this? Karrigan living in your head rent free
2022-05-28 19:20
1 reply
#266
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Czech Republic poledne
just wait it is same as with boomik i said it they will change him ... same story poepel don´t get it until it hapens
2022-05-28 20:33
#139
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Sweden kWahoho
hampus
2022-05-26 15:17
1 reply
Potential is there but for now, I must call you delusional
2022-05-26 15:29
pronax > zeus
2022-05-26 15:21
1 reply
Pronax without 4 top10 players = tier3 Zeus without 4 top10 players = major winner
2022-05-27 21:20
fallen > karrigan why karrigan is in front of fallen? lol
2022-05-26 15:28
1 reply
Why not?
2022-05-28 19:20
#149
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China RADNIKEY
Idk about Taz being #7 but I am also not sure who else to put so good list
2022-05-26 15:30
missing gob b
2022-05-26 15:30
#155
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Brazil Nicolito
1. Gla1ve 2. FalleN 3. Karrigan 4. Pronax 5. Zeus rest i agree
2022-05-26 15:45
1 reply
FLAG FLAG
2022-05-27 20:16
karrigan is clear of pla0ve
2022-05-26 15:45
boombl4 underrated, despite the trophies he achieved if u saw navi playing lastyear they were playing so well as team, no breaches on the map, awareness of every gap and nice setups, nice and accurate midround calls, dont think he is the best of all time but he would be on my top10.
2022-05-26 15:56
Xizt better than all
2022-05-26 15:58
where is my dear tabsen
2022-05-26 15:59
7. NEO
2022-05-26 16:00
#170
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Ireland DazzyCS
Tarik on C9 especially in boston very underrated
2022-05-27 01:09
2 replies
1 tournament run doesn't make him one of the best IGL's of all time.
2022-05-27 18:17
1 reply
#255
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Ireland DazzyCS
didnt exactly mean he was on of the the best ever, just that he was underrated, and very overlooked in terms of NA igls
2022-05-28 08:15
If apEX isn’t #1 he is at least top 5
2022-05-27 14:25
#185
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Norway h0k0n0n
Change gla1ve with karrigan then we're talking
2022-05-27 18:19
GOD tabseN WHERE ???11???1?1????
2022-05-27 18:23
1- gla1ve 2- fallen 3- karrigan the rest is correct
2022-05-27 20:09
5 replies
another flag
2022-05-27 20:16
4 replies
flair
2022-05-27 21:05
1 reply
flair flag
2022-05-27 21:05
fallen 2 major, 2 top 20, many titles karrigan 1 major, 0 top 20, many titles so falllen > karrigan
2022-05-27 22:09
1 reply
19 lans > 13 lans 2022 major > 2016/2017 only top 20 valid but karrigan won in 4 different teams 3 teams with different nationalities and speaking english
2022-05-27 22:10
1. Gob B 2. Spiidi 3. tabseN 4. Krystal
2022-05-27 20:16
#202
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India ELEXR
This re-realization is so damn fascinating that all those 10 have/had different stylessss damnnnn aaaaaa
2022-05-27 21:12
I agree with this list, fallen is the third best IGL. But from all those IGL, is it fair to say that fallen is the IGL with the best firepower ?
2022-05-27 21:13
1 reply
Yeah but he also occupied a frag heavy role - main awp. Most igls are typically playing bitch roles like b rotator and going in first in order to create space
2022-05-27 21:23
Stewie Niko Happy Woxic Shox Tarik
2022-05-27 21:24
gla1ve top1 thats all I care about
2022-05-27 21:33
#210
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Brazil _Awper
Karrigan is super overrated right now.
2022-05-27 21:34
#212
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United Kingdom emobe
Me
2022-05-27 21:42
Agreed. I'm a fan of FalleN but karrigan has surely surpassed him now, But I think It only depends of FalleN himself to reclaim his place back, if he wins something good. If he wins another major, then he will unquestionably be the GOAT IGL.
2022-05-27 22:16
people fighting against gla1ve being #1 are delusional.
2022-05-27 22:19
1 reply
sorry pal gla1ve cam = 0 hunden cam = 1 Hundren>Gla1ve Hunden best IGL
2022-05-28 02:26
4. AZR 7. Woxic
2022-05-27 23:58
#227
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CIS Guymens
Karrigan Ex6TenZ Gob b Pronax Gla1ve Taz Hallen xizt Happy Zeus
2022-05-28 01:11
good
2022-05-28 01:32
1. Fallen 2. gla1ve (If this rebuilt Astralis becomes competitive, he gets 1st) 3. karrigan
2022-05-28 01:34
8 replies
This comment comes from an alternate reality where Imperial won the major
2022-05-28 04:52
7 replies
Nope, comes just from our reality, where Fallen could build a competitive team without Coldzera, but gla1ve couldnt do it without dev1ce
2022-05-28 18:47
6 replies
If fallen wins another major then I would 100% agree. That would be an insane accomplishment. But you're arguing that this 9th-11th finish elevates fallen to goat status?
2022-05-28 19:01
5 replies
If you look only results maybe he isn't,but if analyse the history, he is. First of all, gla1ve didn't create the most successful team in CS:GO history, he was signed to replace Karrigan and then lead a good team to heights never once achieved. While Fallen did create a team from scratch from a country that had no scene, no money, no investment also ever and got that into major playoffs in 2015. Then from his pocket, he created an academy team (Games Academy) in Brazil and brought them to US, promoted fnx and TACO to the main team and in just 5 months became the LG/SK era team. His academy team was bought by Tempo Storm, then Immortals that were major finalists. Fallen created two successful teams from scratch and gla1ve lead the most successful team ever. Until this point I would say that gla1ve was the better one. But analysing both of their teams rebuilding: gla1ve have the backing of one the best orgs in CS, that has the budget to buy big players, and yet couldn't make a successful team and got a 17th-19th finish. While Fallen refused G2 offer to become their IGL to build again a team from scratch, his project didn't had credibility to investors when his showed the project to Jason Lake, he refused saying that team didn't seem to be competitive, even so he believed in it and kept going and in just 4 months he created a team that got the same 9th-11th as the team that he refused. That's why until gla1ve build a great team, I will keeping saying that Fallen is better than him. People say that Boombl4 isn't a great IGL, he is just an IGL of a great team. I think the same logic applies to gla1ve.
2022-05-28 21:52
4 replies
This mostly makes sense except for the part about "two successful teams". Success means you lifted trophies, not "almost lifted trophies". Sure they made a run against the odds, but right now you can only count Fallen and glaive as having one successful team.
2022-05-28 22:36
3 replies
Success means that you are competitive not that you've lifted trophies, but Immortals did lift trophies. They won DreamHack Open Summer 2016 on LAN (S-tier), the finals were against NiP that was the second best team in at the time (Hltv ranking). They also won two others A-tier tournaments in that year.
2022-05-28 22:48
2 replies
"Being competitive" is a pretty low bar to clear, by that metric even current Astralis is successful. They've occasionally beaten higher ranked teams, they've had some third and fourth place finishes ... pretty much every team is a success if all you need to be is "competitive". As for immortals, that was so long ago I can hardly remember. But I don't think fallen was ever even in that team
2022-05-28 23:26
1 reply
To be competitive means to be a contender for the title. And as I said Fallen was never in team, he created it. If you look into Games academy in Liquipedia, you will see Fallen as the CEO
2022-05-29 05:27
Cadian
2022-05-28 01:58
I never understand these lists, you can only rank igls by achievements its impossible to actually know the impact of their calling and how good they actually are as igls
2022-05-28 02:13
4 replies
#240
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Australia Sify
yeah and following that inthink hunden should be on the list as he played with so many danish igls in past
2022-05-28 02:19
3 replies
This is true Hunden , Jerry , Me , Zeus and Magisk are the greatest IGLs of all time
2022-05-28 02:25
2 replies
#245
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Australia Sify
Calafrio_future_major_winner_s1mple_0
2022-05-28 02:45
1 reply
I endorse this message
2022-05-28 02:53
U missed '''just''''' Neo lol
2022-05-28 02:26
Seeing people putting zeus in goat igl conversation gives me a seizure
2022-05-28 02:34
friberg, closed this.
2022-05-28 03:01
no hooxi no birdfromsky rigged
2022-05-28 04:32
#251
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United States MAX___
Obviously flag but nitr0 belongs on the list over MSL, grand slam winning igl + responsible for a lot of NA’s top teams
2022-05-28 04:35
tarik?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
2022-05-28 05:00
1 reply
and nitro!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
2022-05-28 05:00
1. NiKo
2022-05-28 19:05
TaZ above Happy but Happy was great mechanically actualy, mostly a baiter, but a skill one nonetheless
2022-05-28 19:06
#265
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Europe spina
For me, pronax was the best of all time because every other IGL already did play way better than him. Even thouhg he played that much bad, he fking won 3 major. That is insane with only 4 people playing.
2022-05-28 19:23
Zeus #1
2022-05-28 21:55
Wheres cArn, TaZ and Zeus?
2022-05-28 22:59
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