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-dust 2
-vertigo
-inferno
+cache
+cobblestone
+revamped train A
Make some changes on ancient so it wouldn’t be that CT-side
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No map pool? Think you mean -any map +anubis
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Bo3s will be anubis 2 times with office as decider
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Tbh i would like to play all bomb scenario on hostage map
+1
Imagine trying to fix the map pool but leaving Mirage in there xD
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I feel like they should rotate a lot of maps, It gets boring really fast. I love CSGO but when you have seen the same map 200 times It makes it a bit boring imo. Dust 2 should be a must to be removed for now, Vertigo is kinda ok, not so bad and I would not touch Inferno, that's a legendary map. I would rather remove Mirage for a while since It gets played all the time.
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Don't even lie like that
CS:GO community is so two-faced. EVERYONE hated Valve when they added Vertigo and Ancient. CS:GO adds a new viable map and they are the 2 least played maps. Mirage is by FAR the most played map even though it's also the oldest.
Majority of players would rather play the same maps over and over again.
This is factually not true
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yes because vertigo and ancient are shit maps. both maps have the worst bomb spots ever. the viewer expierence is shit. they need to test the maps at least a year in mm, faceit, t3/youth tournaments.
if they add random maps at random times, sure they will get hate. but they deserve the hate.
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You can't tests maps without pros being on them. Doesn't work, only pros and very high level players will develop the true Meta.
Vertigo was even an old Map, but it doesn't matter. They made changes based off pro's primarily.
And you can't tell me Mirage has the best "viewer" experience, that doesn't define them. Vertigo and Ancient are only unbalanced because m4a1 is op, and smoke spam META is so present.
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its not about developing a meta. its to test if these maps are playable. vertigo and ancient are both so bad compared to all other maps. and no its not because of smoke spam or m4a1 is op. the meta on both maps is boring, the rotations are bad, the bomb spots are the worst.
no one even wants to play those shit maps win.gg/ezoimgfmt/cdn-images.win.gg/wp/up..
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And rotations are fun on Mirage and Dust-2????
Rotations on Vertigo do suck, because of the sound. But Ancient has one of the best rotations, if you get mid control rotating is extremely fast. Ancient has one of the least stale and most different map is Ancient.
The bomb spots on both maps are fine. No map is perfect, but the current map that has the most diverse META's are Vertigo and Ancient. Most other maps play the exact same every time.
Yeah look at #11 for example haha
-vtg + cbble
+remake ancient to balance t/ct sides
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and mb -mirage +???
vertigo > any other map
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for me vtg good map when u play it yourself
but when you watch pro games on vtg its like "shooting A ramp, smoking A ramp, molo A ramp, shooting A ramp again" and every round looks like this :D
vtg in Spirit-Furia Major match was pretty good. they played mid, b plant a lot. not only A ramp
but 90% games same
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yeah, I was watching that match live and loved that gameplay, they showed that the map can be played many more ways, like I always thought so
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mb it will be new meta on vtg?
who knows
if most of the matches will be like Spirit-Furia, then I will become a huge fan of Vertigo :D
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also very good map for clutching, most balanced map (in the current map pool), also one of the maps, where awp isn't really needed to win rounds
I think the map tool is quite great, but Inferno , Vertigo and Ancient and would need some tweaks. For different reasons. Inferno for being too save-heavy in current meta and playing too long for that reason. Vertigo rotations are bad. Ancient A site is quite bad and would need something more making planting without smokes not suicide every time.
I agree about -vertigo and don't agree with everything else.
At this point I’d even be fine with -mirage, even though I love the map and watching games on it. Take it out for 2 years for example then bring it back, dropping dust2 at that point.
you're entitled to your wrong opinion.
Vertigo ramp needs to be revamped, maybe give passive play a bit more vision. Also open up B a bit for terrorists, its way too constricted. Need to balance A and B. As hard it is to say, Dust 2 or mirage need to go. Both of them have become too dull for the audience due to their sheer history and unlike inferno they arent that fun to watch. Balance ancient, bring back cache for dust 2 or mirage.
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-dust
-mirage
inferno can never leave u mf
Cobble is probably the worst map that was in the pro map pool. People love bringing the map up but the truth is, nobody played it in the game. It took like 5 minutes to find a Cobble match
Its very strange that nobody even knows are valve doing anything to update the game, like isnt it normal to have a plan for the game and tell people about it? Or are they even doing anything, it has been the case for years imo. Only case updates and maps like vertigo and ancient are the best they can do? Please keep the game interesting or it will die
no need to remove anything
9 map pool would be better, or even 11
+cobble
+train
+season
+tuscan
People ask for change, and what we actually get is meta change around the gunplay and in the end it feels the same
what true real game change is a completely new map
so picture this, you jump on community map that you didnt know before, its feels like a different game yet refreshing and can be fun
+Anubis
+Biome
+Subzero
+Breach
+Swamp
i had most fun with Anubis and Breach, Subzero is fun but too dark, Swamp need major optimization, Biome feels too big, and for hostage game mode Apollo was a great map to play
but them all good map, if only Valve pushed them like their own map, change can be made quick and shape them into good map, just like Overpass
I tried this new Tuscan, its feel like old 1.6 or Source map that too complex, just like Season, way too many passage
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cache cobble train and maybe tuscan or italy
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