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Elige and Liquid is still good.
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United States 130IQ 
His "slump washed year" in 2022 is 1.25 impact and 81 ADR average vs top 20 teams as an aggressive rifler pushing nonstop... His only red stat is deaths. NAF is great as always. oSee is a young capable awper. nitr0 is playing well as a valorant returnee. Both oSee and elige have insane work ethic. If you think the team is "terrible" or -shox +yekindar wouldn't elevate them over 2019 levels of firepower, you're just a blind NA (USA) hater and should be banned. They beat Heroic and Astralis 2-0 with shox (4v5). Just -shox + anybody and you have a tier 1 team. Imagine if stewie2k didn't leave... Literally just replacing twistzz with oSee from the 2019 team...
2022-05-27 04:54
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#1
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United States 130IQ
No baits or you will be reported and banned, this is HLTV of course
2022-05-27 04:55
nitr0 is so overrated its insane holy shit
2022-05-27 04:57
27 replies
#3
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United States 130IQ
How is he "overrated" He does his job as igl. The problem in Liquid is shox tilting the team and elige to hell. Why would they sign a 29 year old kicked EU player with 0.8 rating to Liquid?
2022-05-27 04:58
11 replies
how do you know he does his job? youre just a shit player who hasnt even played open and even then NA Open is literally nothing compared to EU Stay in lane big boy
2022-05-27 04:59
1 reply
#75
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Hungary anw_
ego lol
2022-05-27 07:29
shox is who NAF looked up to when he was climbing the ranks and them getting shox is the only reason NAF didn't go to EG or somewhere else
2022-05-27 04:59
8 replies
#10
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United States 130IQ
Oh yeah I remember that, unfortunate.
2022-05-27 05:00
#33
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China RADNIKEY
If that’s the only reason then fair play since NAF is definitely not washed But that’s just another example of why letting players dictate teams doesn’t work out since most people are going to pick their idols from when they started playing, which is often many years ago
2022-05-27 06:07
I have 0 clue where people are getting this "shox is the reason why NAF didn't go to EG" narrative. NAF himself said he didn't go to EG because he and the org had different ideas and paths for the roster Your entire comment is just bullshit, yes NAF looked up to shox but that doesn't mean he's only on Liquid because of him lol? Wtf is this? EliGE also said on HLTV Confirmed they were going to get shox because NAF staying on Liquid wasn't confirmed yet.
2022-05-27 07:22
1 reply
ok :)
2022-05-27 07:26
Lol? The only reason liquid got shox was because they thought NAF was leaving. But then it turned out he was staying and they tried to work it out.
2022-05-27 07:27
3 replies
i do respect your opinion but i trust my sources slightly more than your comment. taiwan #1 though forever and always
2022-05-27 07:30
2 replies
I'm pretty sure it was said in one of the HLTV podcasts with Elige that NAF didn't go to EG cuz they weren't gonna play with daps. Sure you aren't wrong by that statement but that's not nearly why how things turned out.
2022-05-27 07:36
#89
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North America kinny
He is right though. NAF said that in an interview that daps was planning a project around NAF but EG rejected that idea and then the whole deal dropped. Don't know what your sources are. My sources are NAF'S interview at Pley and Daps tweet.
2022-05-27 07:40
sort of, but we have absolutely no insight into what he does outside of game, how he manages personalities within the game, etc. this is even more relevant when he's working with some of the biggest personalities in NA
2022-05-27 04:59
14 replies
Let's be real. He's only here because EliGe likes him. Same as AdreN.
2022-05-27 05:00
#8
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United States 130IQ
the guy you're responding to thinks broky is better than s1mple, report and move on
2022-05-27 05:00
12 replies
did broky choke a major this year?
2022-05-27 05:07
7 replies
did broky choke in majors finals with 0.8 ratings before like s0mple?
2022-05-27 05:09
5 replies
nope
2022-05-27 05:09
4 replies
this is why GOATKY TOP 1
2022-05-27 05:09
3 replies
ez when i get paid i will buy all goatky stickers and put on my awp))
2022-05-27 05:10
2 replies
gj mens)) but i think twistzz stickers cool aswell
2022-05-27 05:10
1 reply
he made his signature faze clan logo
2022-05-27 05:20
How many HLTV top 1 for Broky?
2022-05-27 07:23
Well, s1mple is in slump right now, so no wonder that he doesn't feel like a top 1 player rn. s1mple even himself admits that he played bad at the major.
2022-05-27 05:50
3 replies
But so far, he is the best player of the year no?
2022-05-27 06:48
2 replies
Well, maybe, but if FaZe keeps wining and Na'Vi keep playing like that he might lose his top 1 to ropz/broky
2022-05-27 06:55
1 reply
Maybe and I can see that happening for sure. Still, one more major to go and anything can happen :)
2022-05-27 06:56
#9
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Australia sh4ww
jks bestest fix
2022-05-27 05:00
2 replies
#11
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United States 130IQ
+1 unfortunate he doesnt wanna play NA.
2022-05-27 05:01
1 reply
#95
jks | 
Australia sh4ww
He might, He has before
2022-05-27 08:09
This is the most liquid fan thing to post... and i am a liquid fan myself saying this
2022-05-27 05:02
23 replies
what do you expect. This guy is reading his IQ backwards. He is actually 031 IQ
2022-05-27 05:08
22 replies
for once i actually agree. i dislike delusional liquid fans but this is a new level. be realistic
2022-05-27 05:23
21 replies
NT. Nothing he said was wrong. Stats > Feelings
2022-05-27 05:32
20 replies
this version of liquid just seems more bleak. it actually requires 3/5 players to actually have good games to do something. elige looks worse because of slightly changed roles. nitr0 isnt as vocal. naf is just naf. osee makes some questionable decisions and shox is shox
2022-05-27 05:36
19 replies
#30
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United States 130IQ
-shox + stewie2k
2022-05-27 05:43
18 replies
stew has been absolute dogshit for like 2 years now +he toxic so not good for team relations
2022-05-27 07:16
17 replies
#51
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United States 130IQ
NT. Liquid are dogshit now when -stew. In case you don't know, CSGO is a team game.
2022-05-27 07:18
16 replies
They -stew because they were dogshit
2022-05-27 07:19
15 replies
#55
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United States 130IQ
Stew chose to leave, nt tho lol. Nepal iq 199/199 ranked worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankin..
2022-05-27 07:21
14 replies
sorry I'm not stew's biggest fan like you. I don't follow tier 83 CS
2022-05-27 07:22
13 replies
#62
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United States 130IQ
Nepal iq moment
2022-05-27 07:23
12 replies
how many burgers you eat a day fatty
2022-05-27 07:24
11 replies
#67
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United States 130IQ
Starving poverty nation with the lowest iq in the world trying to insult world dominator America. Nepal IQ moment
2022-05-27 07:25
10 replies
Nepal known for strong soldiers and scenery. America known for being fat, school shootings and switching to valorant after the smallest inconvenience
2022-05-27 07:27
9 replies
#74
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United States 130IQ
Nepal is known for being a poverty nation with the lowest iq in the world. America is known for dominating the planet with its companies, military, technology, and media. Nepal IQ moment.
2022-05-27 07:28
8 replies
Is this how America dominates media. By some fatty arguing with a fake flagger on hltv
2022-05-27 07:29
7 replies
#79
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United States 130IQ
Nepal iq moment
2022-05-27 07:30
6 replies
America iq moment
2022-05-27 07:31
5 replies
#84
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United States 130IQ
When my state has an average iq of 104 and only has Harvard University and MIT :((
2022-05-27 07:32
4 replies
Yeah and you go to neither and are living in your parents basement hahahahah
2022-05-27 07:32
2 replies
#91
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United States 130IQ
I go to UC Berkeley in comp sci bruv
2022-05-27 07:53
1 reply
I asked
2022-05-27 08:08
When you die, I assume average IQ will double
2022-05-27 07:33
#13
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Brazil madr0k
why would any team sign shox like lol... just don't. EliGE and NAF are both very great players, respect.
2022-05-27 05:07
1 reply
+1 least rational BR
2022-05-27 05:30
I'm just concerned because this roster is showing similar or worse results than last year's roster when they seemingly upgraded some of their players. I agree that -shox is a good idea, and imo +jks would be their best pickup, but I'm not optimistic that getting such a player will make them an S tier team.
2022-05-27 05:15
1 reply
It was -stewie2k that did them in bro. He really shouldn’t have burnt the bridge with Liquid and elige fighting. I’m pretty sure he decided to leave though.
2022-05-27 05:31
#24
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Brazil drsiemann
I actually think this team just needs the right piece to put it together, I mean, they've went to the quarter finals at the ESL pro league
2022-05-27 05:25
this is a average team from average situation
2022-05-27 05:28
I refuse to believe in TL until they give me a reason to believe. And watching them, they just haven't. On paper they should be good, but they aren't. And they haven't been for a very long time now. That's kind of hard to avoid. 10-16 vs Imperial 0-2 to a weak VItality 9-16 to furia 6-16 to a weak g2 0-3 in the major overall. their only even kind of okay result was a bo3 win vs Herioc, and that was 2 months ago now These are unacceptable results for a team with this kind of money and talent
2022-05-27 05:50
5 replies
i guess i should say that naf and elige are obviously still good, and oSee has potential. But even with shox and nitro being bad individually, they should still be doing way better then they are. I think there's clearly something wrong in the team that goes beyond shox just playing bad. Idk if its management, idk if it's coaching, maybe you can go the stereotypical elige hater route, whatever, it's impossible to know. It's just clear to me that there's something intangible wrong in the team that wasn't fixed when fallen and stew left Personally, I think jks and yekindar would be wasting their time by joining liquid.
2022-05-27 06:16
4 replies
Did you just looked at the stats or have you actually watched every game they did? Because you would clearly see tha shox is the problem. He doesnt open any part of the map, he doesnt control any part of the map and it's his primary role, he doesnt trade kills, he doesnt win his 1v1 and takes unnecessary risks, always dying alone in the first minute. One round as they were saving as ct on vertigo, he had the only gun and hid at stairs at B, alone.... instead of playing with the team and trading frags and using their only gun. He then died instantly to a push and they lost the round. As t he doesnt even fully clear corners, he does a quick look and instantly move his aim, well i saw him miss guys and then instantly die more than 5 times to uncleard corners. HE SUCKS!
2022-05-27 06:35
3 replies
#47
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United States 130IQ
+1, he spends half the game flanking. he either gets a single kill and dies, giving t's the advantage, or whiffs. the 29 year old EU guy who got kicked from his team and drops 0.8 rating is the problem. wtf is the cope
2022-05-27 07:12
I should make it clear that none of this is excuse making for shox. Shox absolutely should go and has been playing dreadfully. I just think that Liquid has other big issues, and even +yekindar wouldn't really fix this. Shox said himself in a 1pv interview that nitro isnt a very confident caller. It doesn't seem like the team has a leader. Keep in mind that the same people who let shox join are the same people running the team now. It's impossible to know this for sure from the outside, but its the impression I've been given.
2022-05-28 06:54
1 reply
*a leader outside of maybe elige, who isn't much of a leader
2022-05-28 06:59
#34
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China RADNIKEY
You had me until that line about having more firepower than 2019
2022-05-27 06:09
5 replies
#46
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United States 130IQ
Elige, NAF, Yekindar, oSee, nitr0 is more firepower than 2019 lmao are u crazy replacing stew and twistzz with osee and yekindar........................
2022-05-27 07:11
4 replies
#102
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China RADNIKEY
You’re not considering that some people have gotten a lot worse
2022-05-27 13:18
everyone from 2019 liquid has gotten worse, with the possible exception of twistzz.
2022-05-28 06:56
2 replies
#107
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United States 130IQ
Elige's "bad" year is dropping 1.25 impact and 81 adr vs top 20 teams. NAF is still amazing. oSee is young and promising and a hard worker. Twistzz has worse stats now than in Liquid. He joined FaZe as the star but was simply not as good, so he's back in bitch roles.
2022-05-28 07:01
1 reply
What is it with you people and stats? It's not all about stats. If i were to play your game, I'd point out that elige has a 1.03 impact and rating from the last 12 months against top 10 teams. NAF is still really solid but I still don't think he's quite at the level he was in 2019. Nitro is all around just worse then he was in 2019. 2019 liquid was one of the most stacked lineups in history in the firepower department. The current lineup even if +YEKINDAR happens couldn't hope to replicate that with current trends.
2022-05-28 07:22
#35
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Canada kse1
i never understood the +nitr0 +shox move it was so weird yea -shox and not even cause rating or performance wise just cause it never made sense
2022-05-27 06:16
Please jks or Yek1ndar
2022-05-27 06:47
#40
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Philippines libon23
Elige hasnt been the same player ever since he became an owner.
2022-05-27 06:51
#41
CeRq | 
Australia NoLeS
EliGe fell on hard times Liquid fell on very hard times. Unfortunately there's no rope to climb back to smoother sailings
2022-05-27 06:53
PGL Major Antwerp: "Jonathan "EliGE" Jablonowski, had his worst-rated event in nearly five years." dust2.us/news/28793/report-liquid-set-to.. his stats aren't pretty as well: hltv.org/stats/players/8738/elige?event=.. something needs to change. liquid haven't achieved anything ever since winning online NA epl in 2020
2022-05-27 06:55
if they added stew back i think it will cause more problems
2022-05-27 07:02
FUCKING FUCK FUCK YEAH
2022-05-27 07:29
#90
fnx | 
Russia P0vTr
>nitr0 is playing well as a valorant returnee He's playing BAD as a VALORANT returnee because in VALORANT therr is a higher skill ceiling both for the best and average players >They beat Heroic and Astralis 2-0 with shox (4v5). 4v5 was because OMEGALUL See was missing every single shot (as always) kkkkkkkkkkkkk
2022-05-27 07:49
Liquid will never be good when they sign players who ELiGE wants to play with.
2022-05-27 07:54
6 replies
#96
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United States 130IQ
they only signed nitr0
2022-05-27 08:35
5 replies
and shox
2022-05-27 11:19
3 replies
#99
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United States 130IQ
that was naf
2022-05-27 11:35
2 replies
oh thats different, right? This is like NiKo's last two years in FaZe, he just signs anybody he likes personally
2022-05-27 11:37
1 reply
#101
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United States 130IQ
nt
2022-05-27 11:37
Arden too
2022-05-27 11:34
They should sign oBo or else, EG will
2022-05-28 07:19
" Literally just replacing twistzz with oSee from the 2019 team... " bruh....... twistz surpassed his teammates.... and went on to better things than liquid.
2022-05-28 15:44
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