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Russia ShinobiAcademy 
ok so its totally understandable for ukrainian org to cut ties with a russian player but when you are a top1 contender removing igl seems to be dumb to say the least there arent many replacements either, jerry is just as russian as boomich + navi probably wouldnt want to do business with forze so its not an option, while taking someone from tier2-3 is obviously a heavy downgrade wat doink evgen zolotarev
2022-05-28 19:25
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if jerry wants to move why not?
2022-05-28 19:27
2 replies
navi explicitly said they dont want to have players who pay taxes in russia so why would they pay a russian org which is arguably even worse lol
2022-05-28 19:29
1 reply
their lineup should leave navi and look for another org their story cannot end like this
2022-05-28 20:15
have you thought that there might be something else than him just being russian? they're not removing (or at least haven't removed) electronic and perfecto lol
2022-05-28 19:27
11 replies
thats not the point of this thread
2022-05-28 19:30
6 replies
#58
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Brazil Gaucho_10
its literally your open statement of your topic
2022-05-28 20:19
4 replies
never said its "just because of him being russian" + maybe try reading more than just first sentence
2022-05-28 20:20
Perfecto did the move to Kiev early in 2020 so he's out of contention, maybe have an informed mind before making a fool out of yours secondly electronic prolly gets the boot too because there is no way that he moves with his family, he is just prolonging the inevitable
2022-05-28 21:00
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#92
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Brazil Gaucho_10
dumbass comment all of you kids speculating, no proof whatsoever
2022-05-28 21:17
Can you read?
2022-05-28 23:23
Yeah because this thread has no point
2022-05-28 20:21
Perfecto is young, he's probably going to Serbia or something, like M0nesy did for G2. Electronic has been in the team for longer, so they might still try to convince him. Either he takes his family to Serbia or Georgia as well, or he will still be kicked later on.
2022-05-28 19:31
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+1 electronic next on the line perfecto pretty safe tho
2022-05-28 19:33
#68
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Georgia endyyoo
elec is 50/50 depending on if his family will move which i personally find unlikely but perfecto has lived in kyiv already so likely he wont have any problems relocating
2022-05-28 20:25
Perfecto in Kiev already since early 2020
2022-05-28 21:01
A sane russian
2022-05-28 19:28
I thought his wife divorced him btw? Almost everything about their relationship seems so sketchy
2022-05-28 19:29
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they got back together after like 2 days lmao
2022-05-28 19:30
1 reply
his relationship with that chick is such a trainwreck lol. I feel bad for him ngl
2022-05-28 19:43
Why do you think they would not do business with ForZe? Just because it's a Russian org or for something else? Jerry is young enough to move as well if he's not married yet, and he might be willing to join the second best team in the world, plus he's probably the best Russian-speaking IGL right now. I also find it unlikely that they would go for another Russian, but it would be difficult to find another IGL, I suppose they could look to Georgia, Bulgaria or the Baltics, but I don't know of any good IGL in any of those countries.
2022-05-28 19:34
2 replies
"Just because it's a Russian org" yes literally this read the statement by navi ceo
2022-05-28 19:36
1 reply
Ah, too bad. Would have been a good opportunity for Jerry and Na'Vi both, but without Russians it would be pretty difficult to get a good IGL. Looks like it'll be a rough period.
2022-05-28 19:38
do you actually consider boombla a good IGL?
2022-05-28 19:38
3 replies
navi worked pretty well with him + he definitely improved since he joined
2022-05-28 19:46
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#77
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Spain ez25
navi worked well when b1t started playing well, boom has been in navi for 3y + he definitely improved since he joined, which could be said about any other igl
2022-05-28 20:35
Thinking the same lol. Altho if they want to keep russian comms, finding ANY igl is not very easy. Basically most russians are ruled out and dunno if ukrainian igls even exist. Not much to work with..
2022-05-28 20:37
#14
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Nepal Ekadeshcs
It’s about the reputation of the org and also people who work at navi are from ukraine so it makes sense
2022-05-28 19:42
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read what i said in the thread pls
2022-05-28 19:46
They should buy Jerry regardless of what they want. Great igl who speaks russian
2022-05-28 19:43
#17
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Romania justlyw
Fact for Na'Vi - you won't find a better IGL than Boombl4 for NAVI
2022-05-28 19:45
#18
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France marponche
And you think who taught IGL to boombl4? It was B1ad3 he will do it again
2022-05-28 19:45
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reforming a new player to tier1 cs takes months if not years, boomich was in navi since ilke 2019 and if u compare him when he just joined to the latest months its 2 different players almost whoever navi pick up as replacement wont work just as good no matter how hard blade tries
2022-05-28 19:47
I liked the point of Team Spirit players: "elec IGL +YEKINDAR"
2022-05-28 19:46
3 replies
interesting but idk if elec can really call + his stay in navi is also questionable for now
2022-05-28 19:48
2 replies
elec already did (blade wanted to kick boombl4 even back then?) + he's like the main point in Na'Vi's t-side. about the kick, you think s1mple will respond the same way as to boombl4 ("This is how this world works") to elec? no way.
2022-05-28 19:52
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yeah he did but if u remember it wasnt a great period for navi so thats what i meant by "can really call" and him being kicked or not depends purely on his decisions, its hard for him cuz of wife and daughter to just move from russia just to play cs
2022-05-28 19:53
#22
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Europe JemappeIIe
Who needs bot igl?
2022-05-28 19:47
2 replies
idk ask vitality
2022-05-28 19:48
1 reply
#33
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Europe JemappeIIe
I would ask NaVi instead but unfortunately the kicked him already.
2022-05-28 20:07
Isn't fear a good young IGL from academy team?
2022-05-28 19:51
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#29
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World NukestrikE
as far as i remember its headtr1ck but im not sure about it
2022-05-28 19:52
1 reply
Oh ok then
2022-05-28 19:55
#28
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World NukestrikE
headtr1ck is imo obvious choice. no buy out, they know him and they have good experience with their academy players...
2022-05-28 19:52
19 replies
but he is rifler and navi need igl lmao
2022-05-28 20:06
14 replies
#36
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World NukestrikE
as far as i know he is an igl in navi junior and already was stand in for them instead of boombl4
2022-05-28 20:12
10 replies
he is not, igl was always fear
2022-05-28 20:13
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#51
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World NukestrikE
as far as i know its headtr1ck and that was also one of the reason why he was stand in for them instead of boombl4 but yea i wouldnt put my hand to the fire for that:D
2022-05-28 20:15
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"as far as i know" m8 just open liquipedia he was standing in because boombla was tested positive for covid
2022-05-28 20:16
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#62
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World NukestrikE
captain doesnt necessarily mean igl tho...but its pointless to argue about it bcs like i said im not 100% sure about it:) but anyway he was their first choice in the past already instead of boombl4 so it could be him either way
2022-05-28 20:21
6 replies
dude he is just a normal substitute for navi, nothing to do with boomich every other team has a player like that. anyway, he is a rifler and always has been + 17yo without tier1 experience isnt exactly a good option even with blade's help
2022-05-28 20:22
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#69
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World NukestrikE
yea you are right ofc. im not saying that he is ideal replacement bcs he is FAAAR from that... but how many good and realistic options do they actually have? thats the question imo. i wouldnt be surprised at all if they will go with one of their academy players bcs of no buy out, bcs they already know there players and they have nothing to lose+they have good experience with their academy players
2022-05-28 20:25
lmao just accept you are wrong ffs that afaik lol you really make people uncomfortable
2022-05-28 20:26
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#71
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World NukestrikE
yes i was most likely wrong so what:)? like i said i wasnt sure about it since beginning anyway... but my point about their academy players still stand tho
2022-05-28 20:28
2 replies
liquipedia headtr1ck is not an igl they have no choice academy team is set up for this situation
2022-05-28 20:31
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#73
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World NukestrikE
parrot? yea i already know that...but like i said the point still stand about their academy players
2022-05-28 20:31
#38
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Ukraine Loomian
rifler can't be IGL wtf?
2022-05-28 20:12
2 replies
its not as easy as it might sound, 17yo kid with 0 tier1 experience who never played as igl cant just come to igl in navi even if blade helps him 24/7
2022-05-28 20:13
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#44
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Ukraine Loomian
I think s1mple can be igl or electronic if he stays. Also I know elec has some igl experience in navi
2022-05-28 20:14
but is awp player?
2022-05-28 20:11
3 replies
#37
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World NukestrikE
no he is not
2022-05-28 20:12
2 replies
ok, saw him playing awp on vertigo just a few hours ago.
2022-05-28 20:13
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#34
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Israel fvlion
idk if boomich was that great igl anyways they could prob still be top1 contender without him it really does look like blad3 was pulling the strings in the team for the most part and not boomich
2022-05-28 20:09
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blade is definitely the key point in the team but it doesnt change the fact that potential replacement wouldnt be as good as boomich either because they will try to take someone young from t2-t3 and it will take months to raise him or they take someone established but bad
2022-05-28 20:12
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#48
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Israel fvlion
if they could get someone like jerry that would be such a massive upgrade but not sure if its possible
2022-05-28 20:15
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really doubt it because of forze
2022-05-28 20:15
blade will convert any mediocre igl into great one. boombl4 is an example of that
2022-05-28 20:13
4 replies
took blade 2+ years tho
2022-05-28 20:14
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#53
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Israel fvlion
i dont think that it neccesarily took blade 2+ years they just didnt have the right pieces in the team when they brought in bit everything just seemed to have clicked in the team
2022-05-28 20:16
2 replies
im talking about boomich individually when he just joined navi he was a terrible player and the only real improvement happend in late 2021 until now
2022-05-28 20:17
1 reply
addition of b1t gave him a lot of options to play along, with flamie he had to make tactics specfically centered around s1mple and elec which would be difficult for any igl
2022-05-28 21:04
not a top 1 contender after all those changes
2022-05-28 20:14
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Russia Ansi
why would they announce this 2 days before Dallas you think?
2022-05-28 20:15
2 replies
they withdrew from dallas due to visa issues anyway
2022-05-28 20:17
1 reply
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Russia Ansi
ohhhh, i didnt even notice that, or i missed the news flash about it! thanks!
2022-05-28 20:19
Why not just get Stewie2k to IGL
2022-05-28 20:18
its pretty clear from navis point, they dont want someone whos living in russia because Navi dont want to support the russian war in anyway. if Navi lets boomble live in russia and pays him his salary, navi is basically paying money to russian government over taxes. seems like a pretty fair point to me.
2022-05-28 20:21
10 replies
so u just havent even read what i said, alright
2022-05-28 20:24
9 replies
I have read everything you wrote, but there are priorities, so the competetive part of it is 2nd priority, having no ties to russian government in any way, even taxes, is 1st priority. there is no debate possible for navi when someone wants to live in russia. so basically your whole threat is useless, because yes its sad losing boomble, but its not important in this case.
2022-05-28 20:49
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and as i said thats totally understandable but they are literally risking going out of top10 just cuz of their personal principles
2022-05-28 20:51
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Then they do, so what? Besides whoever they get, a team with s1mple and b1t in it is not going out of top 10.
2022-05-28 20:56
you should say "and as i said thats totally understandeable.'' the 'but' in this case is totally irrelevant, thats my whole point, is it so difficult to understand that this war going on is way more relevant for them than having a good team in csgo? its not that they have a big problem either way, theyre not active in cs only.
2022-05-28 20:58
This. I don't understand why so many don't get it? Yes, from competitive point of view this move is quite bad or debatable but considering navi position it is rather adequate.
2022-05-28 21:21
that said, nothing against russian people, same for navi who dont have anything against russian people, but they dont want to pay taxes to russia, simple as that.
2022-05-28 20:50
You're basically saying you know why they did it but saying its dumb. Its not a question of opinions or options when its the only way its going to be. If it was s1mple instead of boombl4 it would still be done because thats just simply how its going to be.
2022-05-28 20:54
2 replies
being justified doesnt make it less dumb
2022-05-28 23:19
1 reply
Picking something thats the only option is not "dumb". There simply isnt an option.
2022-05-29 00:23
#74
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North America kommi
+aunkere god team
2022-05-28 20:32
I think boombl4 is pretty overrated as igl. But it is problematic indeed to find ANY russian speaking igl to replace him. Chopper would surely be upgrade but not sure if he can relocate or if navi is willing to pay spirit. Or if he even would want to. (Hard to turn down navi tho) Also would be shame to break spirit since they were godlike in major and have massive potential.
2022-05-28 20:48
Bring back Sdy?... ah to bad its just a wet dream..
2022-05-28 21:02
2 replies
doesnt solve igl issue
2022-05-29 01:05
1 reply
true, I was joking with that one anyways
2022-06-01 16:24
#90
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Belarus slpng
+sunny for firepower
2022-05-28 21:07
Nickelback leaves Entropiq (Czech org) and relocates outside Russia to play with NAVI. The same with Forester but then electronic IGLs.
2022-05-28 21:12
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