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Why Ropz will never be a superstar Like S1mple, NiKo or Zywoo
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Portugal W!LDF1RE 
Ropz is undenyably tallented, and has the mechanics to be someone at least close if not equal to NiKo. But as a player he just simply doesn't have the mentallity. When his team wins, he has impact and is a great usefull player to the team, that puts up those super star numbers he is capable of. But as soon as his team starts underperforming or loosing, even if it isn't by he just does nothing about it. He won't try to make move, he on't take any risks, he won't even trade if it means a medium risk interaction. He just doesn't have a mentality to take a game by his hands. That's why, if he never changes, he will never reach those heights, nor will a team with him as the clear biggest star be consistent. Also that's why, in the future when NiKo is eventually not the best riffler, Yekindar or B1t will most likely take his spot of best riffler in the world
2022-06-24 19:47
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#1
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United States kami917
what role does NiKo, b1t, yekindar play again?
2022-06-24 19:48
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#12
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
b1t is a lurker before you try to make that argument. Also NiKo isn't an entry. He plays a mix between entry and an aggrolurker depending on the map and round. Being the lurker doesn't mean you hve to bai tyour team and hve no impact. Look at HuNter, b1t and Hobbit. They are all lurkers. All of them are worse players than Ropz. They don't bit their team, and actually do something when loosing.
2022-06-24 19:53
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#40
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Europe S3pp
but faze is best team in the world and it works against tier 2 teams like g2
2022-06-24 20:16
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#43
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
G2 isn't tier 2. you can argue it isn't the best team in the world or better than faze, and I agree. Also FaZe are no longer the best team in the world, and haven't been for like 3 tournaments now
2022-06-24 20:18
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#61
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United States Virgin Islands qtleaf
Yep, G2 is tier 3. :)
2022-06-24 20:32
3 replies
why did u stop making imperial threads bro? and switch flair?
2022-06-24 21:14
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#89
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United States Virgin Islands qtleaf
idk what you talking about about my flair + i made a imperial thread a day ago is imperial living rent free in your head?
2022-06-24 21:29
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u dont know what a flair is lol and u made a imperial thread 10 days ago last time when is imperial era starting bro? :D
2022-06-24 22:20
#82
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Iceland suriel666
"faze is best team in the world" hahahhahaa
2022-06-24 21:16
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#100
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Europe S3pp
1. faze 2. navi 3. ence
2022-06-24 22:47
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#102
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Iceland suriel666
more like 1. FaKe 2. Best Team in the world 3. ENCE
2022-06-24 23:28
#108
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Navi ENCE FaZe Cloud9 G2 Esports imo
2022-06-25 03:11
#44
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Oceania xJ7
I wouldn't say b1t is a worse player than ropz.. He's mechanically more skilled but maybe needs a little more time to win big clutches.
2022-06-24 20:18
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#46
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
B1t can, and imo will, be better than ropz. He just isn't there yet.
2022-06-24 20:18
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He is already better than ropz
2022-06-24 22:23
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#98
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Yugoslavia Pagan44
+1 has more impact
2022-06-24 22:44
#116
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Poland Hellp3r
Both hobbit and b1t are better players than ropz
2022-06-25 07:27
#88
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Philippines libon23
b1t is better than ropz, at least I never seen him look so lost in a match
2022-06-24 21:28
2 replies
agreed, doesn't do anything dumb at all. Even when you watch hes movement he will try to gain an advantage all the time.
2022-06-25 07:38
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#121
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Philippines libon23
He doesnt play like a rookie and I never seen him do any dumb moves before. Oh I remember now b1t looks like a t4 player when he just joined navi on his first match against the 4 major winners astralis on inferno. That was painful to watch, he just missed his rifle spray and look very nervous. Idk what happened but now he looks completely different player compared to when he just joined navi main roster.
2022-06-25 08:25
NiKo and b1t are lurkers, yekindar is entry
2022-06-24 20:08
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#45
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United States kami917
NiKo isnt lurker
2022-06-24 20:18
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lol, what is he then? hes lurk/2nd entry, just not hard-set on either
2022-06-24 20:21
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#63
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United States kami917
If he is playing multiple roles then he’s a hybrid player, but if I’m not mistaken hunter is G2’s lurker. Point is that ropz is a pure lurk, and I don’t think NiKo or b1t really fit that bill. He’s much more comparable to BlameF then all three of those players, except he’s more of a star type of player than ropz, but ropz doesn’t have to be that guy in faze
2022-06-24 20:46
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exactly, hes almost always called a "star rifler", because hes not hard-set on any specific role and can basically do whatever he feels he has the most impact in doing NiKo often lurks alongside hunter and entries onto site if jackz isnt alive
2022-06-24 21:03
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Not rly. Jackz is not really entrying anymore
2022-06-24 22:23
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exactly. NiKo is entry, JaCkz is now just dedicated bottom fragger
2022-06-24 22:38
depends on map, on dust2 and nuke he is definitely the main lurker but he entries (sometimes too much on maps like mirage)
2022-06-24 22:24
#2
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
No disrespect to ropz though
2022-06-24 19:49
9 replies
this isn't disrespectful, but you're kinda right brilliant flashes aside, he does drop off without his team's support, although he has made plenty solo plays (1v4 vs G2 14-15)
2022-06-24 20:17
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#48
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
"(1v4 vs G2 14-15)" No need to remind me of that, come on ahah
2022-06-24 20:19
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that was insane. i honestly couldn't believe what i was watching it happened so fast
2022-06-24 20:31
probably the leading contender so far in terms of Play of the Year, it was that good (even better if you watch mahone's explanation/breakdown of it)
2022-06-24 21:08
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#75
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
I wouldn't say leading. I think m0NESY against mibr is ahead just based on how crazy it was.
2022-06-24 21:10
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bro... 14-15, 1v4 on site in the grand final of Kato after a 6 round comeback to secure OT and win the map vs 1v4 in a 7-1 lead during an online qualifier
2022-06-24 21:11
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#79
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Impact sure, but as a round I don't think it compares.
2022-06-24 21:12
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even as a round if you rewatch the monesy one, it was MiBR playing stupid and scared rather than monesy outsmarting them or smmin. yes he hit impressive shots but he was given way too many opportunities plus you gotta consider that MiBR isn't that great a team whereas G2 was a top 5 team at that time i believe, maybe top 3 still not convinced, go watch mahone's breakdown on YT
2022-06-24 21:14
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#87
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
I saw the mahone breakdown at the time it as made. I either saw a video or a thred breaking down why MIBR individuals were playing well, and why 9999/10000 they would have won the round. I'm not going to explain it fully but the jist of it is that they all peaked either after shot and in positions where an AWP wouldn't normally make the shot. They were just upset by some angles that offset their peeks.
2022-06-24 21:26
#3
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United States sadcel
he shouldnt even be compared to players like niko ropz is a lurker who always waits for the game to come to him, he plays the easiest role in the game.
2022-06-24 19:49
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Its not easy if you want to be an impactful one, but its not the hardest either
2022-06-24 19:51
#15
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
True
2022-06-24 19:54
he plays very late lurk which is a guaranteed round win if his teammates get a few entries otherwise completely useless (most of the time at least) niko can still make a play and turn over the round if his teammates fail to get entries, though not as often this year. his t side is so flat nowadays
2022-06-24 20:58
thats a strange thing lurker cant perform when team is having a day off... what a coincedence blameF is also trash when astralis cant kill anyone... wait lemme... oohh flair... ohhh flag yep
2022-06-24 19:49
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#17
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Oh look, someone is very dumb. Do you realize that the lurker is the guy with the best stats and games when the team is using. You litterally used the worst exmple possible in blamef. He ALWAYS get's decent stats, no matter how bad his team is playing. We saw that in CoL and now in Astralis.
2022-06-24 19:56
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when the team is using drugs or what were you trying to say 0trophies enjoyer
2022-06-24 19:57
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#30
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
0/8
2022-06-24 20:04
s1mple, zywoo, sh1ro, device... all lurkers
2022-06-24 21:29
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#91
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Yes awpers also have good stats when the team looses, but we're talking about rifflers rn, and awpers normally have more impact in those kinds of situations. Plus lurker is the role where you can stat pad the easiest regardless of ho the game is going to your team
2022-06-24 21:42
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trader (aka 2nd/3rd contact). lurker needs a team working properly to get advantage. last time lurker was top 5 on hltv was 2014, but we had recently entries, awpers and traders.
2022-06-25 02:28
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#106
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
There are entries in a team 1 The space maker wich is what we are discussing here (like Yekindar) 2 The bait who goes in first in execs (like Jackz) 2 is nowadays included into support, while it is expected of 1 to do what you described
2022-06-25 02:53
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my point is pretty clear. you said lurk is an easy role to statpad, but that isnt what hltv ranking reveals to us. lurker decisions arent as easy as people think and lurker’s rating needs a team system working properly. awpers and traders can get kills easier
2022-06-25 03:09
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Australia NoLeS
That's fazes strength though They play the same game no matter if they are losing or no Ropz will always be ropz because this playstyle is his best form Respect ropz
2022-06-24 19:49
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#18
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
I respect ropz look at #2 Also no, ropz doesn't play the same game consistently. He will absolutely be more risky and impactfull if his team is play well, nd will absolutely be the most useless 25 fragger in CSGO
2022-06-24 19:57
This performance losing ropz.
2022-06-24 19:51
#9
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Iceland Voidsphere
ropz isn't even the same player type as ChoKo, S1mple or Zywoo.
2022-06-24 19:52
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#20
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
NiKo isn't the same type of plyer as Zywoo or S1mple. Zywoo also isn't the same type of player as NiKo or Zywoo. They are all different. what's your point?
2022-06-24 19:58
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#23
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Iceland Voidsphere
My point is: He's not a flashy superstar player and never has been. And I'm not even saying that's a bad thing.
2022-06-24 19:59
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#32
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Flashy isn't the point. Zywoo isn't flashy at all either. I'm talking about results and performance. THe impact you have isn't defined by ho flashy you are
2022-06-24 20:09
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#35
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Iceland Voidsphere
And? Even last year, when MOUZ has been horrendous mostly, he had great games, single-handedly carrying the team. Honestly, I don't think he's trying or aspiring to be a superstar, anyway, people are just forcing that term unto him.
2022-06-24 20:12
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#41
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
In mouz he did carry some games, but in most games when the team was horrendous he did absolutely nothing. He was good in the games Frozen was average at least. I remember very well hearing casters almost every game saying (oh Ropz got 25 kills, didn't notice that)
2022-06-24 20:17
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#53
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Iceland Voidsphere
Well, let's at least agree on the point he had better years in his CS:GO career, on an individual level. But, to be honest, I think that's also due to karrigan's calling or vision of the game in general. ropz has had way too much freedom in MOUZ last year as it's basically been a "ropz go kill" kinda playstyle and right now it feels limited, also because there's so many other players that can make a play. I don't mind them, they just won three tournaments in a row including a major, so it can't be that bad. Yes, he's not s1mple, NiKo or Zywoo, but then again, I don't think he wants to be any of these, he just wants to be ropz.
2022-06-24 20:23
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#55
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
I can agree with that mate. Pleasure discussing with you, +1
2022-06-24 20:25
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#57
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Iceland Voidsphere
Dito +1
2022-06-24 20:27
#10
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Cyprus Porgos
You can't compare Niko to Yekindar, b1t and Ropz. Niko is playing full star roles
2022-06-24 19:52
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#25
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
There is no such a thing as a star role. There is entrying, supporting, lurking, awping and IGLing. Star rifflers Lurk and/or entry. NiKo just doesn't fully commit to entrying or lurking, and depending on the map, game and team, he will do more of one or the other. Same can be applied to b1t and will be more applied to him. Also lurkers don't need to be passive and unimpactfull. Look at guys like Hobbit, b1t, HuNter, NiKo when lurking etc..
2022-06-24 20:03
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I mean you basically said NiKo is in "star role" because G2 and aleksi is giving him free hands on each map to give him the positions he benefits a lot because he is the star player of the team. I mean yeah there is no star role necessarily but teams usually put their stars to the roles where they are making a lot of impact because of their skills.
2022-06-24 20:23
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#58
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
I do use the term "star player" to define a role, but when I do it isn't to create a different role, it's jsut a short version of "the guy who either does (lurk/entry) primarily but also does (lurk/entry)". +1 on second paragraph
2022-06-24 20:27
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ahhhh gotcha :P
2022-06-24 20:57
there is a star role they get dropped hero rifles/awps/deagles and push alone sometimes in full buy rounds their job is to frag and can do what they want
2022-06-24 21:01
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#73
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Lurkers, entries and Awpers are stars and get that treatment. That does not change anything. There are just some plyaers that do more than one role
2022-06-24 21:06
#78
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Argentina atriX^
The Star role is a thing but it's not directly associated with specific duties. A Star role means the player has the option to choose whatever he wants to do and usually gets the best positions on the map where he'll have the most impact.
2022-06-24 21:12
Bro he is a lurker, his role is different
2022-06-24 19:53
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#27
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
#25 Read this. Response to a comment exactly like yours.
2022-06-24 20:03
aint reading that shit, the reason is cuz he is shit
2022-06-24 19:54
#21
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Hungary szia
he will never be like those superstars bc he doesnt have an annoying fan army of 11yos
2022-06-24 19:58
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fun fact you need play like a god then you will famous like s1mple , ropz is overated never cant be a god player
2022-06-25 07:17
Cos all he does is bait and play like a rat.
2022-06-24 19:58
1 reply
Name checks out
2022-06-25 00:24
ropz has the mechanical skill and game knowledge to shit on pretty much anyone else in a duel, but does not leverage it at all. He is frustratingly passive to watch because if he took more initiative, he would be able to have more direct impact.
2022-06-24 20:00
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#28
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
+11 You made a better TL;DR to my thread than I haver could
2022-06-24 20:04
#26
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Asia loveall
His role is too much passive compared to others.
2022-06-24 20:03
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#29
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
#25 Response to a similar comment
2022-06-24 20:04
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#68
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Asia loveall
Agreed. He has very good game sense, aim and all, and he is surely a world class player, but now watching him in FaZe isn't too enjoying, I guess people like players more who can make successful aggressive plays consistently. Players like s1mple, zywoo,NiKo take more direct fights and make good plays instead of waiting for your teammates and shooting enemy in the back which as a viewer I guess is not too thrilling.
2022-06-24 21:00
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#72
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
+11
2022-06-24 21:05
it is very thrilling when it works
2022-06-25 03:29
Totally agree with you. Ropz appreciate sneaking around, play as smart as we can. Sounds default or any mistake. But he has no balls..I piss me off sometime xD But definitly a huge a skill player .
2022-06-25 08:27
He is like NiKo, except more consistent, more dependable, without the ego, ... But that ego is the reason why Ropz works hard to play with his team while NiKo's immense ego makes him work hard to be the one that pushes his team to victory. The problem with NiKo, on the other hand, is that he has some ChoKo mentality that makes him fail in important matches. He has NEVER won Katowice, Cologne or a Major, and those are the most important tournaments. So while NiKo is a star and Ropz isn't even interested in being one, Ropz is far more advantageous to a team than NiKo is. But you need another player as well. It's possible that both G2 and FaZe would be better if they would swap NiKo for Ropz, but of course NiKo and HuNter want to play together.
2022-06-24 20:07
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#37
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
More consistent? No More dependable? Absolutely not, you can say whatver you ant abou NiKo's personaloty, but NiKo will win you the game when the rest of the team is loosing it, while Ropz is never doing any of that. I agree with you on the ego point, but ropz isn't more advantageous to a team. NiKo wins more games, therefore he is more usefull. Before you claim NiKo destroyes teams, that time is long past. Even rn he isn't questioning aleksib much, and he is no karrigan and they are playing a lot worse than FaZe 2018. On the swap it makes no sense on G2's side, while on FaZe's it kinda does. HuNter is the main lurker in G2. It makes no sense to trade the aggro player in NiKo for a passive lurker when there is already a main lurker in the team. Only valuable swap for both teams is Hunter and Ropz, as HuNter is more impactfull and FaZe needs that, and Ropz is more consistent, and G2 needs that
2022-06-24 20:14
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NiKo has had amazing character development since he joined G2. It's true. He seems to really get along with his teammates and be a positive influence on them. But he does really have some problem with mentality, I refuse to believe it's a coincidence that the best rifler of the past decade has neither Katowice, nor Cologne, nor a Major victory. He has never won a single one of the most important events despite how long his career at the top has been. The trade wouldn't make sense anyway, because Rain and Karrigan wouldn't want to play with NiKo again, Broky probably neither, and G2 would have to make M0nesy into their star, and the whole thing about the Kovacs playing together would just be gone. But the consistency missing on G2 is on NiKo, not HuNter. NiKo is the one who disappears in important matches, so looking past the thing of the players themselves, Ropz stability and team-spirit, while being slightly less good than NiKo, and less impactful maybe too, could make G2 as a whole more stable, which means they would be able to win tournaments, since their ceiling is high enough anyway, and they have a star-worthy player in M0nesy. FaZe right now has no star, so putting NiKo there would catapult the total ceiling to insanity. FaZe could pop off far more than they can now and G2 could be consistent. Basically your argument for HuNter, I would use for NiKo. But either way, it would never actually work.
2022-06-24 22:23
#36
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Romania styl3noxe
You have broky, twistzz and rain in the team.Why is he the one to blame for not performing? He is a lurker, literally the last one to blame for not taking initiative or something.Same for blameF, they are doing their job so tell the other guys to wake the fuck up and play.I get your point but like some people are only good at what they do and nothing else, and that s ok. That s why every team has a structure, roles etc. (btw i think one of the reasons Astralis was that good for so long it s because all the players were really next level and if somebody had a bad day you had other 4 gods who could step up.)
2022-06-24 20:18
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#38
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
I'm not blaiming him for FaZe loosing here. That's a whole different point that I'm not trying to debate. That team has 3 stars and none of them is really a carry, but rn it's not m point. My point is just about ropz himself across a lot of teams.
2022-06-24 20:15
Ropz use "shift" alot and thats frustates me. He's not a lurker he's a baiter IF his team start losing, always last man alive because he always walks while his teammates die without trade
2022-06-24 20:15
#47
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Chad kdorek
ropz makes baitF look like a team player
2022-06-24 20:19
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#49
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Ok, there there, no need to go that far. He isn't blamef in CoL levels of baiter
2022-06-24 20:20
it is not fair to compare s1mple with anyone at this point. ropz is extremely useful to his team. He is supposed to be the solid support player. Twistzz and broky are the ones to be explosive in Faze
2022-06-24 20:20
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#54
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
It is absolutely fair to compare s1mple with people of equal tallent. Zywoo and NiKo were better than S1mple at some point. These 3 players are the most tallented in the world, and use their tallent accordingly. Ropz is at that same level of tallent (b1t, m0NESY and maybe yekindar are too, but too soon to hold them up to such high standards), and should be held up to those regards, or at least to be a good carry player when the team is loosing. Also if twistzz and broky are the 2 main stars in the team, good luck being the best team in the world when NaVi, G2 or C9 settle up
2022-06-24 20:25
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first s1mple is better because of that winner mentality that you yourself mentioned. His hunger for win is externally visible to the point that he has been toxic to his previous team-mates. Not sure a good or bad thing, but it did take s1mple quite a bit of time to get a team that plays to his standard. And even after being in a team with such high skill ceiling, s1mple enjoys such level of freedom (which he carved out for himself) that is unmatched by any other player. No player has that authoritative attitude to force their will on others as s1mple. And this is not from today but from 2016 onwards. To second your opinion Ropz and others have that skill, but just not that level of dominance and courage to take that level of freedom, to just single handedly snatch the game.
2022-06-24 21:23
Ropz is very disciplined. This is very important, but can look incredibly shit when the rest of the team isn't there.
2022-06-24 20:26
#59
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Serbia DjapeZ
He is just not built to be carry, doesnt have that mentality, he is good anchor and lurker to have, but as we saw in Mouz he cant really single handely carry a team, he needs good all round team, and Faze have that team atm but they are not consistent enough
2022-06-24 20:29
#62
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United States Virgin Islands qtleaf
zywoo 0 majors niko 0 majors i rather be someone like taco than these overrated playes + G2 has a fully trash roster, including m0nesy, terrible t3 awper
2022-06-24 20:34
not many players will get near s1mple, Zywoo and Nikos level. If Niko played the same roles as BlameF and Ropz he would be dropping 1.70 every map
2022-06-24 20:51
#66
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France Diodele
hes dont need to be a somple niko or zywoo for win titles because
2022-06-24 20:58
We will gladly take Ropz if you guys dont want him
2022-06-24 21:02
"as soon as team start losing he does nothing" You didn't watch mousesports 2019-2021, where ropz played every role to carry Now he supposedly have two good aggressive riflers, so he can focus on lurking.
2022-06-24 21:11
Yes because he is so passive
2022-06-24 21:16
That's how his role works
2022-06-24 21:20
#85
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Estonia meggas
because hes overrated baiter+exitfragger
2022-06-24 21:23
#99
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Brazil shockDEawp
maybe because he's not... even though he's an excellent player...
2022-06-24 22:45
Thank god he is not like Niko
2022-06-24 22:52
are you claiming niko is the best rifler now?
2022-06-25 02:24
2 replies
He is talking about NiKo
2022-06-25 07:35
1 reply
That's what i said
2022-06-25 12:58
only way for that to happen is for ropz to get that cum off of his face
2022-06-25 03:35
Faze doesn't exactly need a hard carry. The whole team should be pulling their weight on a good day. Ropz is exactly the player ropz needs to be in my opinion, regardless of whether you put a superstar label on him or not.
2022-06-25 06:43
Axile is better than Yekindar otherwise agree
2022-06-25 06:57
because ropz is playing like snake from behind sneaky phussy
2022-06-25 07:16
seems like every time i watched faze during this their losing matches every player just expects ropz to flank and he always does and dies, change it up man keep it a guessing game. Anyways the issue really is karrigan, when he throws hard they don't win, only when he actually plays like his LIFE is on the line if he loses the match, they actually win
2022-06-25 07:40
#120
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India Nijer
"That's why, if he never changes, he will never reach those heights" That's it, he doesn't want to become the best player in the world, he doesn't have that ego, he want to do what team needs from him, which is more then fine in team like faze where everyone does there job. NiKo is more versatile whereas ropz is very focused in his role within the team. If you ask me I will rate ropz as better lurker than NiKo but overall NiKo is the better player within the server.
2022-06-25 08:14
Stars are consistent top 20 Superstars are consistent top 10 we need few years to put up atleast few Hyperstars consistent top 5 Ropz has failed to keep the title from 2020 as he degressed into 18th pos by 2021 but he ll probably be top 10 this year B1t will be top 10 probably due to EVP's etc. Therefore consistently grabbing superstar role. Electronic might degress abit after taking IGL if sdy plays better that might not even be a problem Yekindar this year wont be top 10 due to VP affairs which mean either he s in top 20 or out S1mple and NiKo + Zywoo are def superstars i would even argue that they are Hyperstars
2022-06-25 08:49
b1t already took the best aimer(performance-wise) spot and seems he won't gonna leave it
2022-06-25 13:04
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