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Betting site not paying 20000€, help?
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Netherlands Verstappen 
So I have just joined a betting site called Fonbet and did this: imgur.com/a/YEcpxpi My account is limited now, I can only win 20€ on any bet and I cannot deposit or withdraw the money and they are not responding to any of my messages. What should I do?
2022-06-26 11:00
Topics are hidden when running Sport mode.
Bye money🙂
2022-06-26 11:01
94 replies
#4
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Netherlands Verstappen
I am pretty sure they cannot take the money or not pay out, I did nothing illegal or wrong.
2022-06-26 11:03
93 replies
is that site legit or is it some scam ?
2022-06-26 11:06
61 replies
#9
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Netherlands Verstappen
Well, it looks legit, I already took 100€ once from them and there was no issue, like 3 months ago. Since then I did not bet there until 24.6.22
2022-06-26 11:08
60 replies
From what I've seen on the web, it's a ruski bookie Why even bet on such sites ? Especially that much
2022-06-26 11:09
59 replies
#23
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Netherlands Verstappen
They offer great markets, but I could not bet as much as I wanted on those markets, only the main lines, like match winner allow huge stakes. And sites like these are regulated, they cannot just take random people money. That is not how it works.
2022-06-26 11:18
58 replies
They are not. Ruski sites have 0 regulation. When choosing a bookie you just need to do 1 thing - avoid ruski sites. You didnt do that. Bye-bye money
2022-06-26 11:35
51 replies
#45
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Netherlands Verstappen
Fortune Entertainment RG Limited, 27 Michalacopoulou Street, Office 402, 1075 Nicosia, Cyprus Fortune Entertainment RG Limited is a holder of a Class B licence issued and regulated by the National Betting Authority of Cyprus. Licence number B012. Issued on 20 October 2021, valid until 19 October 2023.
2022-06-26 11:35
46 replies
#47
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Netherlands Verstappen
So many people here that do not know anything but love to talk.
2022-06-26 11:36
17 replies
Well bud you clearly got scammed by a bookie and thats what we’re all trying to tell you. Being in denial about it wont change anything
2022-06-26 11:41
16 replies
#54
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Netherlands Verstappen
You are wrong on what u said before, all betting sites have regulations so obviously you have no clue what you are talking about. You really think that someone can just take 20000€ without any consequences on betting sites? Cmon man.
2022-06-26 11:43
15 replies
Of course they can. They do it all the time. All russian bookies are just scams, licensed or not. They can make a bullshit reason up and just keep your money if you won too much. Happens ALL THE TIME. What are you gonna do, sue them? Well, go ahead. They have billions of dollars and they’re banned in most countries anyways. For example, I cant even access this site from Germany. Probably because its very legit. Its you who’s obviously naive and didnt do enough research before giving them money
2022-06-26 11:49
9 replies
Exactly. Shouldnt even touch russian websites full stop. Theres a thing called sanctions for a reason, not like theyre gonna launch a missile because you cant withdraw some change
2022-06-26 12:06
not legal if ur from netherlands either unfortunately for OP
2022-06-26 13:17
No probably coz Germany blocked any access to any russian websites
2022-06-26 13:44
4 replies
No, that’s not the case. Russian sites are freely accessible, except for some propaganda sites like RT. Germany has a very strict policy when it comes to betting so any shady/unproven site is blocked
2022-06-26 13:44
3 replies
somehow its not blocked for me even tho i dont use any vpn or anything like this
2022-06-26 16:20
2 replies
Maybe depends on the region. I’m in Sachsen
2022-06-26 16:21
or u dont use ur official isp dns servers
2022-06-26 18:08
ofc you can get access from germany, wtf
2022-06-26 18:17
#334
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Ukraine VoidWave
+1
2022-06-27 11:18
#123
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Poland Astoner55
Yeah, because registering and getting a license by bribes/money mules with fake IDs etc isn't at all possible, right...? not saying it is the case 100%, just saying that it happens on a daily basis, more often than you think. Often times they create a whole fake company registered on fake people and then just launder money, it is more and more regulated but it still happens on a wide scale
2022-06-26 12:57
I dont play csgo nor bet But yes they can dupe u jlt
2022-06-26 18:06
1 reply
wise man
2022-06-26 18:10
#265
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Finland valdecsgo
I Dont understand why you ask a question here, then when people give you the most obvious answer, you throw a hissy-fit. If you used your brain, you would not use a fucking russian bookie. Bye-Bye money, next time use brain.
2022-06-26 21:09
1 reply
#335
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Ukraine VoidWave
+1
2022-06-27 11:20
Cyprus licence KEK
2022-06-26 11:55
24 replies
Yea this guy thinks a license from a country where everyone knows you can BUY CITIZENSHIP is worth any more than a pile of dirt. Funny
2022-06-26 12:00
23 replies
Literally every Cyprus/Curacao licensed casino/bookmaker is 99% a scam
2022-06-26 12:07
22 replies
Roobet is Cyprus and Curacao licensed, is it a scam?
2022-06-26 12:16
20 replies
yes
2022-06-26 12:18
1 reply
oh no :(
2022-06-26 12:18
No, roobet is actually legit
2022-06-26 12:22
17 replies
0/8
2022-06-26 12:43
16 replies
It is though? One of the websites that earn so much per day they dont get involved in these scams and actually pay you your winnings. Never had an issue with roobet, never heard of anyone else having issues with roobet
2022-06-26 12:59
15 replies
#150
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Mauritania CYETA
youtu.be/lwkwN9BNK_Q youtube.com/watch?v=cCeMRjbRpzA trust me when I tell you roobet is one of the scummiest online casinos ever
2022-06-26 13:31
8 replies
To be entirely honest I’m not interested enough to watch the videos, but I will trust your word. It is a gambling site after all…
2022-06-26 13:33
2 replies
#154
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Mauritania CYETA
they are owned by aero1738, idk if u remember him
2022-06-26 13:41
1 reply
I do. I imagined he’d be in prison or something by this point but yea, I get what you’re saying. Cant say I would give the benefit of the doubt to a website owned by this guy
2022-06-26 13:53
so the videos are just showing how its false advertising again, nothing about the "scam" itself if ur dumb enough to deposit money when the site clearly states its blocked in ur country but u still opt for using vpn etc, win big and they dont pay u = thats entirely ur fault
2022-06-26 14:15
4 replies
#197
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Mauritania CYETA
except for the fact that I know a guy who got scammed of 20k there for no reason
2022-06-26 14:22
3 replies
#198
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Mauritania CYETA
60k* sorry
2022-06-26 14:23
when people say "for no reason" 99% of the time its actually not for no reason i obviously dont know the context but im almost sure it would have to be something included in tos one way or another, or ur friend did the same mistake and played from a banned country either way, that has nothing to do with what u linked because both of those videos are just bla bla bla talking about how bad these guys are (dont get me wrong, they absolutely are and im not defending them) but theres no clear show of scam in any shape, just "unethical" stuff that they do lol
2022-06-26 14:25
1 reply
#205
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Mauritania CYETA
nah, he simply ran up to 60k from 100 usd deposit
2022-06-26 14:26
These guys are definitely exploiting the casino industry with a market that is not ready for this yet. Roobet gives out free bonus money to youtubers and streamers that can be played with as they see fit. You have to understand the dynamic here - most casino games have a theoretical RTP between 95-98% and if you do constant bonus buys of $25k each - you will hit the $200k wins at some point as they have. It is just math. BUT in the long run, these guys are definitely down big, presenting a false view to all audiences. Underaged people not realizing this, buy into the hype and wager money that they need.
2022-06-26 13:44
5 replies
thats not exactly a scam tho just false advertising
2022-06-26 13:47
2 replies
I'm not trying to say they are scammers, just that they are not a "legit" business and website
2022-06-26 13:57
1 reply
And you are right in saying that
2022-06-26 14:01
Yeah, ofc. This is just scummy marketing. Almost every gambling site does this unfortunately. Not illegal or a scam tho. When I’m saying they are legit - I’m not saying they’re not fucking assholes and not unethical, both of which they are because its a betting site, I’m just saying that if it so happens that you win big - they will give you your money as long as you provide a pic pf your id. But they’re scammers too apparently… #150
2022-06-26 13:49
1 reply
Agreed
2022-06-26 14:04
not every. You should do extra research if you are looking into curacao licensed casino. You wont get any legal help but there are plenty of legit ones. Also a lot scamming bookmakers just use "fake" curacao license. I mean if you would look them up on curacao licensed casinos you would not find them.
2022-06-29 20:13
#129
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Iceland suriel666
many shady companies just get licensed in Cyprus to seem legit, but that's more because of avoiding taxes and stuff like that. this money still goes back to the original company, which in this case, is probably somewhere in Russia. Maybe it's rip to your money :(
2022-06-26 13:04
yeah i am sorry to tell you but it's not legit. every ruski bettor site uses cyprus street address so yeah, regulations none, bye bye money. check TDM_Heyzeus, Sparkles, etc. and see by yourself. sorry for money bro, but see the positive side, we humans learn by our mistakes, this should be mistake you need to learn never bet on sites like this.
2022-06-26 13:54
Press charges my brother if they don't respond
2022-06-26 21:00
ever heard of cupis, clown? there are no nonregulated bookmakers in russia by now
2022-06-26 21:28
3 replies
Yea, because regulations are so well-kept in Russia, the least corrupt country in the world
2022-06-26 22:48
2 replies
now u are just changing the subject, i wouldnt mind this comment but thats not what u were saying before
2022-06-27 09:04
1 reply
Regulations that dont work at all = no regulations. This doesnt change anything…
2022-06-27 11:44
lmao why tf do you bet on those kinds of sites
2022-06-26 12:58
They offer "great markets" because they never intend on paying back huge wins. They are using better odds than their competitors to lure people like you in. It's a scam. If they win, you lose your money. If you win, they just never pay. Lol. you actually thought you were outsmarting an online bookmaker. Now they're just playing time with you to try their best at avoiding you. Seen this same scenario unfold literally hundreds of times over a few decades of gambling. Good luck if you ever manage to get any money out.
2022-06-26 14:05
4 replies
It was not about odds, I have made some money and wanted to bet on CS, they offer markets like who will have more kills between 2 players and stuff like that, I just wanted to play there for fun, but I made a huge profit and now I am limited. I was not trying to outsmart anyone...
2022-06-26 14:07
3 replies
€1900 is for fun? You know you could do a lot more fun things with that money than hand them over to a stranger you have never met and trust them to keep their word over promises made. You don't see how ridiculous your scenario is?
2022-06-26 14:18
2 replies
It is my money and my choice of fun, what you think about that or what you think is fun is absolutely irrelevant and I do not care. And that is why betting sites exists, no? To have fun, that is why most people bet. (even though not true, most people just want quick profit)
2022-06-26 14:24
1 reply
Yeah, betting sites. The site you chose only POSES as a betting site, but it’s actually a scam, and you fell for it.
2022-06-26 14:25
They can, almost every bookie does
2022-06-26 11:10
15 replies
#16
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Netherlands Verstappen
Haha, sure. No they cannot, they are regulated by NBA and IBAS, I can easily report them and press charges even.
2022-06-26 11:12
14 replies
Then read the rules, maybe you need to bet the same amount of money as your deposit before cashout
2022-06-26 11:22
7 replies
#32
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Netherlands Verstappen
I already withdrew once, like 3 months ago 100€ and no problem. Now the withdraw or deposit is not even available, it says I should contact support - this also happened just after I won the last bet, until then I could have accessed both withdraw and deposit option
2022-06-26 11:26
6 replies
Because you won too much, they wont pay you 100€ is not 20000€
2022-06-26 11:30
5 replies
#40
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Netherlands Verstappen
I get it, but they have to pay.
2022-06-26 11:32
4 replies
Lmao
2022-06-26 12:37
delusional
2022-06-26 13:48
#207
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Japan JadzStar
so amusing to see how you think that they HAVE to pay you. Did you even read the TOS of gambling websites? It literally says that they have to right to withhold any sum of money if they see fit. All I can say is bye bye money, hope suckers like you stay off gambling sites
2022-06-26 14:28
are you 10 or something? so naive
2022-06-27 04:43
enjoy pressing charges where you have to spend 20k to get your 20k
2022-06-26 13:03
4 replies
Atleast here if you win your case you dont have to pay anything. And it looks pretty straight forward to me. Its not legal to just take someones money for nothing.
2022-06-26 13:20
3 replies
there are quite a lot of reasons they can present as to why they wont pay him out and they have set terms & conditions for this that no one actually reads
2022-06-26 13:54
2 replies
Reasons that arent legit whatsoever. I mean its them that have the burden of proof to show you're not clean.
2022-06-26 14:31
1 reply
its not like it would be their first time lol they have their reasons set, its not very hard to prove something thats in your business' T&C
2022-06-26 14:38
If they won't answer you then contact some good lawyer and get advice from him. It will cost something but not much. There are also companies that deal with things like this. You pay them only from what they win.
2022-06-26 13:14
#14
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Asia flipflop
If you win much more than you lose, they accuse you being a fixer and block you. It's a scam.
2022-06-26 11:10
12 replies
#17
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Netherlands Verstappen
They cannot accuse me if they do not have any proof
2022-06-26 11:12
11 replies
#22
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Asia flipflop
It's a fact. Many goods bettors got locked their money in many different gambling sites. So what you personally think, doesn't matter here.
2022-06-26 11:18
10 replies
#25
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Netherlands Verstappen
It is not what I think and your fact is not based on any kind of a proof, because betting sites cannot just take your money.
2022-06-26 11:19
4 replies
#26
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Netherlands Verstappen
They can lock your winning if they are suspicious of something illegal but there is nothing illegal in my case
2022-06-26 11:20
3 replies
No one cares if there is something illegal or isnt. They just lock your account and say that it is. You dont have either the balls or the money to sue them
2022-06-26 11:50
2 replies
you obviously have no experience in this shit, stop speaking non sense dude
2022-06-26 14:46
1 reply
Am I? If you dont know about this problem you’ve never used a ruski betting site
2022-06-26 16:05
#99
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Europe 90ieskid
Is it like this for the well known bookies like bet365, unibet, william hill as well?
2022-06-26 12:32
4 replies
bet365, unibet are 100% legit, cant say about william hill. Just avoid .ru sites and try to use some very well known ones, they’re not scams. Also check if those sites are banned in countries like Germany, Netherlands, Belgium. If they’re not you’re safe 99/100 times
2022-06-26 13:07
3 replies
meh, i wouldnt go for netherlands anymore. there is only like 10 legal betting sites since recently. they changed the rules so online betting is more regulated here. so there is legit betting sites that dont have a licence here because they used to operate semi-illegal here.
2022-06-26 13:20
2 replies
But if you choose any of those 10 you know it’s 100% safe
2022-06-26 14:14
1 reply
yeah thats true too bad the only thing those sites dont have is esports betting. idk if its illegal here or smthing but the sites that should have it like 365 dont have it on the dutch version.
2022-06-26 14:18
ggbet does this on a daily basis, your money is rip
2022-06-26 13:17
Betting online on a bookie without license isn't legal in the first place in the Netherlands afaik
2022-06-26 16:34
Nt, betting online is illegal in the Netherlands
2022-06-26 11:02
22 replies
Netherlands more like Basedlands
2022-06-26 11:03
2 replies
more like Cringelands
2022-06-26 18:23
sure u didn't
2022-06-26 21:13
#5
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Netherlands Verstappen
I am from Slovakia, my name just looks better with Netherlands flag.
2022-06-26 11:04
1 reply
Fair enough
2022-06-26 11:48
#37
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Netherlands Dutch69
Ggbet is still open voor NL
2022-06-26 11:33
3 replies
I was don't knowing this details
2022-06-26 11:48
No KYC?
2022-06-26 16:35
1 reply
#230
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Netherlands Dutch69
Idk i dont bet but i think it is about to shut down.
2022-06-26 16:53
really? That is very weird
2022-06-26 11:32
12 replies
its not. the rules around here changed recently that we cant just use any site we have to use the approved sites that like 10 or so but those are for sure a lot more trustworthy.
2022-06-26 13:21
11 replies
makes sense. Disallowing online betting would be stupid :D
2022-06-26 13:56
7 replies
yeah the trend in the netherlands seems to be we rather allow it supervised than letting it happen behind our back anyways.
2022-06-26 13:58
6 replies
yeah that's the purpose of every betting company. People who hate betting companies do not realize that it would happen even without them which would be worse
2022-06-26 14:00
5 replies
i am very confused about what you just said? could you maybe rephrase it?
2022-06-26 14:03
4 replies
some people are against gambling and hate betting companies for allowing it. My point was agreeing with you that gambling would exist even without betting companies like it did before. That way it would be way worse.
2022-06-26 14:10
3 replies
oh yeah, but i think governments should do more to ensure the sites are not a scam, i can not confidently play at the allowed sites here because they are very safe and checked etc. but in most countries all these shady sites are legal.
2022-06-26 14:11
2 replies
why would anyone bet on shady sites?
2022-06-26 14:16
1 reply
idk ask the thread creator. maybe limited options available or not doing research
2022-06-26 14:19
No esports betting tho....
2022-06-26 18:05
2 replies
yeah.... is it illegal or what is the reason?
2022-06-26 18:06
1 reply
Idk, I don't think it counts as an official sport therefore it can't be bet on. I personally use nitrogen tho
2022-06-26 18:20
dont bet mens 🙂
2022-06-26 11:05
2 replies
#10
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Netherlands Verstappen
Well I already did
2022-06-26 11:08
1 reply
#330
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India Recursive
Be honest how old are you? This site looks a bit shady too me. You might have to contact the police.
2022-06-27 11:04
Nice paint skills
2022-06-26 11:07
Deserved for betting on unknown, shady betting sites.
2022-06-26 11:09
#15
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Faroe Islands v_v
website owner is enjoying his new house
2022-06-26 11:11
4 replies
#18
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Netherlands Verstappen
new house? I deposited only 1900, the rest is their money
2022-06-26 11:13
3 replies
#21
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Faroe Islands v_v
enough for ruski house
2022-06-26 11:14
1 reply
ha
2022-06-27 04:59
looks like they are making sure that it stays their money
2022-06-26 14:08
#19
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Germany xxtimxx
Name checks out so fully deserved
2022-06-26 11:13
PM me some betting tips to reach 20k and I'll let you know how to handle this case
2022-06-26 11:14
2 replies
#28
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Netherlands Verstappen
Bet on a winner
2022-06-26 11:22
1 reply
#84
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Serbia hitomi79
touche
2022-06-26 12:10
report to authorities?
2022-06-26 11:18
2 replies
#27
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Netherlands Verstappen
Thinking about it, but I will wait a little longer. Hopefully they will pay without it.
2022-06-26 11:21
1 reply
Threaten them before contacting authorities
2022-06-26 16:23
Red Bull not paying you enough?
2022-06-26 11:23
#31
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Liberia weALLcheat
Search for legal advice, not here obviously
2022-06-26 11:25
4 replies
#44
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Netherlands Verstappen
I would love to resolve this without legal action, but well if there is no other choice.
2022-06-26 11:35
3 replies
can you even do that since that site is 100% illegal in the netherlands
2022-06-26 13:22
2 replies
I am from Slovakia, I just use the Netherlands flag because it looks better with my name.
2022-06-26 14:09
1 reply
Based
2022-06-27 11:03
Just use Pinnacle, the only legit site that doenst steal from winning players
2022-06-26 11:27
1 reply
#256
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Hong Kong sti11fac
+9000
2022-06-26 18:39
So you could deposit 900€ but are only able to withdraw 20€?
2022-06-26 11:27
2 replies
#43
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Netherlands Verstappen
I cannot deposit or withdraw now, I can bet but I can only bet for few €, I cannot win more than 20€ on a bet now.
2022-06-26 11:34
1 reply
#325
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Korea Hordaphos
Hahah you got scammed but Russian scum Xd.Flair checks out
2022-06-27 09:11
Check the origin country of the site and then re-evaluate your brain which decided to use this shady site.
2022-06-26 11:31
7 replies
#48
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Netherlands Verstappen
Fortune Entertainment RG Limited, 27 Michalacopoulou Street, Office 402, 1075 Nicosia, Cyprus Fortune Entertainment RG Limited is a holder of a Class B licence issued and regulated by the National Betting Authority of Cyprus. Licence number B012. Issued on 20 October 2021, valid until 19 October 2023. Regulated by IBAS and NBA. I do not know where you people come with these stupid claims that betting sites can just take your money, but what ever.
2022-06-26 11:37
6 replies
Cyprus lul a haven for casino & forex scammers
2022-06-26 11:46
Well, look at your situation then think again if they can just "take" your money
2022-06-26 11:56
#77
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Spain ewg
no offense but if you really have 20k locked in such a shady site, i dont know why youre opening a thread on HLTV and not researching cyprus' betting regulations or getting advice from a lawyer
2022-06-26 12:06
3 replies
#81
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Netherlands Verstappen
Because I do not want to, it has been only a day and a half and I know there are a lot of bettors so maybe some one with experience will help me.
2022-06-26 12:08
2 replies
#87
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Serbia hitomi79
Well, I don't know is this bait or not, but to avoid a professional advisory and to reach for amateur opinions on such drastic matter is foolish and reckless. Even you must admit it.
2022-06-26 12:14
1 reply
#93
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Netherlands Verstappen
Well, they did not respond to my email only 24 hours now, they have 72 hours. So I will definitely wait for their response and then I will take more drastic approach.
2022-06-26 12:19
Rip Money OP on Copium
2022-06-26 11:32
#41
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Korea queendom
best way is probably to consult an attourney. never heard of that site so it might be some dodgy shit which would likely make it very hard to get your money.
2022-06-26 11:34
1 reply
#49
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Netherlands Verstappen
Man, I would love to resolve this without any attorney. I will wait few days I guess, see if they will respond.
2022-06-26 11:38
Hope u don't get your money and stop betting
2022-06-26 11:36
11 replies
#50
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Netherlands Verstappen
Very nice of you, I also hope someone will take your money.
2022-06-26 11:39
10 replies
Your logic is off the truck man, you literally bet on ruskies bookie so you gave the money, not like someone stole it. You are an IDIOT and thats all, need to be careful next time
2022-06-26 12:47
you're literally a bettor this is what you deserve another betting site doing god's work!
2022-06-26 12:49
8 replies
What is wrong with being a bettor?
2022-06-26 14:10
7 replies
whats wrong with being a dumbass?
2022-06-26 14:11
6 replies
Would you please just answer the question?
2022-06-26 14:12
5 replies
I just did, a bettor gets what he deserves for being a rich guy with no clue on how to spend that money.
2022-06-26 14:13
4 replies
You think every bettor is rich?
2022-06-26 14:15
3 replies
Man, every single penny you spend on betting, you have to consider it lost. You are literally gambling every single time you bet. There's no such thing as "poor bettor" unless they want to ruin their lives further. If you come to hltv crying about losing your money to not only shady but BETTING sites, then you deserve losing all the money because you weren't careful enough might sound harsh but I have no respect for these people because they're also the kinds who send death threats to pros inboxes
2022-06-26 14:17
2 replies
Betting is an entertainment product, obviously the odds are stacked against you, but many people bet just for the thrill of it, not because they want to profit off of it. You spend 10 bucks on watching a movie, others spend 10 bucks betting on a sports match. Both of you won't see that money again, but both of you are getting entertainment out of it. Yes, bettors that send death threats are degenerate losers, but generalizing all bettors based on those is just incorrect.
2022-06-26 14:24
1 reply
If they need to spend money to get the thrill they're not real fans but I get your point. Fair, fair... Still, spending that much money... and then coming on a site that can't give legal advice, to cry.
2022-06-26 14:25
#51
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Hungary YoloKutya
goodbye money
2022-06-26 11:41
Have you tried calling them to get an offical reason? These sites will literally do everything to keep you from withdrawing such a big amount, they'll state everything from bonus abuse to several IP users from your house I really feel your pain here, I think it looks dire but you should of course keep fighting it
2022-06-26 11:41
4 replies
#57
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Netherlands Verstappen
I did not. Yeah I noticed that they are not very willing to pay me but I did nothing illegal or wrong, they have nothing against me so I do not see it that bad for me, but I do not know what should I do. Maybe I will call them, but I doubt that will solve anything.
2022-06-26 11:46
3 replies
Wait a few days if nothing happens contact your bank and tell them to chargeback that €900
2022-06-26 11:54
1 reply
their long gone
2022-06-26 14:25
Well i know you think you did nothing wrong, but did you actually read the entire ToS before depositing money? There are so many things in there that they could use against you you should call them to get an official reason for them not paying you your money once you have that, the next step is to contact ibas-uk.com/ and see if they can help you you should also get in touch with nba.gov.cy/en/ and see if they can do something
2022-06-26 11:58
#56
Xyp9x | 
Poland f3nce
well I read some rules from them maybe you can find out more 10.3. The payment method of depositing funds that you have selected is to be used for your withdrawals as well. 10.5. For bank cards and other third-party payment processors (such as Neteller and Skrill), there may be limits on withdrawals put in place by the relevant payment service provider from time to time. If you wish to process such withdrawals by the specific bank card or payment processor that imposes said limits you need to contact them. 10.9. Funds withdrawal is only available for Customers who have uploaded their supporting documents and have a verified betting account.| well if you didn't go read all of those rules there's a lot of them and they're pretty complex fonbet.com.cy/terms-and-conditions/
2022-06-26 11:46
3 replies
#58
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Netherlands Verstappen
I read all of them, I should not be in any trouble.
2022-06-26 11:47
2 replies
#62
Xyp9x | 
Poland f3nce
then I'm really confused, there was a case some time ago with different betting site and they refused to pay the guy some big numbers as well stating some dumb reasons that weren't included in their ToS. I don't see much options honestly, you can try to contact them by phone number/email/anything, maybe even talking with some lawyers about it anyways gl with getting your money and leave some updates here or on different threads
2022-06-26 11:49
1 reply
#69
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Netherlands Verstappen
I honestly think that they are just trying to find anything they can use against me. I have already sent them several emails with no response. I do not want to talk to any lawyer, honestly but if it is the only option I would have to. Thank you, I will leave some updates
2022-06-26 11:59
2022-06-26 11:59
4 replies
#71
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Netherlands Verstappen
well those reviews do not say much, and it is in their terms that when a free bet is void you lose the freebet
2022-06-26 12:00
3 replies
YOU ARE CORRECT, I AM NOT. HAVE A GREAT DAY.
2022-06-26 12:01
1 reply
#75
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Netherlands Verstappen
lol, you too.
2022-06-26 12:03
Your bet site has 2 reviews on trustpilot. Thats the part that should ring some bells
2022-06-26 21:40
Just play on biggiest sites, even biggiest sites aren't trustworthy.
2022-06-26 12:01
very old scam on Russian betting sites :) first you are blocked from withdrawing funds you write to support and they answer you that your bets were "suspicious" and force you to send a whole bunch of identity documents, but really it's just a distraction regardless of whether you provide them with documents or not they will ignore you for a while then one day you wake up and see that all your money is gone and according to your betting history last night you lost all your money on some bets on cricket, tennis, basketball, darts and other useless shit on which you have never bet before obviously you did not make these bets, which will not prevent support from answering that you did and they can not return your money because you lost them yourself congratulations, you have been successfully scammed!
2022-06-26 12:01
3 replies
#82
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Czech Republic eduardcs
yes, this happens quite regularly on russian betting sites
2022-06-26 12:09
Happened for me on Betway too, thought that it is legit site but deposited 20 bucks, won 400 and all of the sudden money was gone and customer service stated that I have lost them on Casino, even though they did admit that I haven´t logged in after placing the withdraw request. After that they told that they close my account for suspicious activity and if I want to get them to investigate it, I should´ve done report of an offence at local police station and send them a proof about it. Never did it because it wasn´t that big amount of money considering the time it would take, and there isn´t any guarantee that I would get money even after that.
2022-06-26 18:27
1 reply
In other words someone got access to your acc and gambled it away. You didnt get scammed
2022-06-26 21:41
I had same issue with Fonbet They told me to create a “request” to investigate further. So after sending them hella photos and screenshots (and each message had like 1-3 days delayed answer from them), I was able to withdraw.
2022-06-26 12:06
4 replies
You play with high amount of money, so consider using Pinnacle bro I use xbet and parimatch and never bad issues with them
2022-06-26 12:08
1 reply
#89
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Netherlands Verstappen
None of them are available in Slovakia, but thank you.
2022-06-26 12:16
#83
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Netherlands Verstappen
Thank you, this is what I was hoping for.
2022-06-26 12:09
1 reply
legalbet.kz - you can make a comply regarding your situation towards Fonbet. Fonbet has their legal representative on that web site to investigate cases. I'm not sure if there is English language, I can help with a language if you'd like to
2022-06-26 17:04
#85
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France taykah
daily reminder that the business of betting sites is inventing reasons and rules to not pay you
2022-06-26 12:11
Why you bet on some random ruski Betting site that much money. All people know that ruskis bettings sites are 90% scam. Your all money is gone
2022-06-26 12:13
Hi Mate, all I can say is you can save your money for the attorney - no attorney in this planet can do something about a company that is citing in Cyprus, trust me. Been there, done that. Your only hope is, that someday you get an answer back. Try all ways - should it be through Social Media, Influencers and so on. Also, write a complaint to the National Betting Authority and provide all information with screenshots and so on (proof that you've contacted them multiple times without answer etc.): nba.gov.cy/en/contact-us/ Good luck, I hope you'll receive your money. And of course, for the next time, stop betting on sites that are licensed in Cyprus! 90% of these companies are scumbags.
2022-06-26 12:15
#95
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India SKS_1337
use pinnacle, parimatch best bookies with solid records. so is betway, but too much house favor might as well bury your money instead of bet there lol
2022-06-26 12:24
6 replies
Not available in Slovakia, any of them. I mostly use only our local bookies, but they are checking and adjusting all my bets so I decided to try some thing else... Should have stayed where I was, but whatever.
2022-06-26 12:41
3 replies
i have ur same problem. I took 2 months off from betting because of that :( btw nice betting units. you must be rich kekw
2022-06-26 13:09
i knew it something was off about ur story
2022-06-26 21:07
1 reply
? What is off?
2022-06-26 23:55
#232
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu
>parimatch same scammers btw. In general, I think that all bookmakers are scammers. There's no way you can force them to pay you the winnings, even through the courts.
2022-06-26 18:01
1 reply
#254
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India SKS_1337
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? sometimes i read something online that hurts my brain just to think about it
2022-06-26 18:34
hahah very good, thats what you get for betting lmao
2022-06-26 12:24
1 reply
#105
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India SKS_1337
flair checks out
2022-06-26 12:43
I thought all betting sites are scam? They will only pay out if you paid in more previously. But a friend once told me he known someone who actually made a profit.
2022-06-26 12:25
2 replies
They are not, only people that constantly lose money talk like this. I have made profit on betting, I have taken over 60000€ from Slovak bookmaker with no issues.
2022-06-26 12:37
well they are, many of them will scam your money, or if they are "trusted" site they will at the very least limit your bet sizes to almost 0 if you are winning player
2022-06-26 13:08
That's alot of money so they'll probably not pay that's my bet Only bet such amounts on legit books such as pinnacle, betfair... Why would you bet with 20k on this shitty book smh
2022-06-26 12:25
3 replies
None of them are available in Slovakia
2022-06-26 12:37
2 replies
Then don't bet or use a trusted broker
2022-06-26 13:07
if you bet this much, you might as well try a betting broker, they can give you access to pinnacle through ps3838
2022-06-26 13:24
almost every official russian bookmaker are doing some limits when u win a lot and its illegal but u can't do anything with it
2022-06-26 12:43
4 replies
I do not care about limits, just give me my money and I will never bet there again.
2022-06-26 12:45
3 replies
i mean not only betting limits also some limits on ur withdraw
2022-06-26 12:46
unfortunately i don't think that u could do something
2022-06-26 12:47
thats precisely what they dont want. gl getting your money back
2022-06-27 04:42
i hope you lose all your money, bettor
2022-06-26 12:47
10 replies
I hope you lose all your money too
2022-06-26 12:50
9 replies
I don't bet. It's impossible for me to lose all that amount of money on a betting site. Cry is free, mr bettor. ez lose money for you
2022-06-26 12:51
8 replies
only 1900€ its my money, others are winnings. So I do not think it is that much but okay. Whatever.
2022-06-26 12:51
7 replies
keep crying ig
2022-06-26 12:52
6 replies
I am not, not even one bit, but keep telling yourself that if that makes you feel better.
2022-06-26 12:52
5 replies
so why did u come here on hltv crying
2022-06-26 12:53
4 replies
Im guessing you are not the sharpest pencil in the box ?
2022-06-26 13:11
3 replies
no he's right if u resort to hltv u must be desperate
2022-06-26 21:02
1 reply
desperate or maybe just want to look for free advice, maybe there is 1 good advice
2022-06-27 04:52
he is the guy that makes a thread every other day crying that he is stuck with bad players in faceit xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2022-06-27 04:43
This happens when a website sees that you're not profitable for them. They limit the fuck out of your betting limits...
2022-06-26 12:51
Try to withdraw in lower amounts multiplex times
2022-06-26 12:52
#121
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Serbia YODAKOLE1
MAX MAX SUPER SUPER MAX why u bet tho
2022-06-26 12:53
deserved
2022-06-26 12:56
threaten them with a lawyer, that should make them give you the money
2022-06-26 13:02
my advice is to not use those random betting sites. The hassle and stress to just withdraw is not worth it. I remember another hltv user who got scammed by some betting site that thorin was promoting or something
2022-06-26 13:04
Dude stop arguing with everyone in your thread, it's cringe as fuck. You used a scam site, and got scammed. Unlucky, learn from it.
2022-06-26 13:04
2 replies
he used scan site cause he has something to hide
2022-06-26 20:59
1 reply
he used it cuz it had MUCH better odds and thought it was legit. As the saying goes "if something looks too good to be true, it usually is"
2022-06-26 22:38
u will likely still get your money but it will take time and stupid conversations with them.
2022-06-26 13:07
It's over. Try a trusted website next time.
2022-06-26 13:15
1 reply
+1 he thought Cyprus was a reputable country in terms of who gets a license to run a casino...
2022-06-26 14:43
if you win 5-6€ they prolly pay money and limit ur bets but you hit 20x, 21k€ is too much. they will come up with various excuses and dont pay the money. if you totally profit 10-15x on a bookie just withdrawal your profit and find a new reliable bookie. this is how work online betting
2022-06-26 13:21
2 replies
because he bet on scam site :D would not happen on bet365
2022-06-26 18:14
1 reply
he bet there cause its matchfix
2022-06-26 20:58
Damn.That win percentage. what did you bet on man?
2022-06-26 13:21
3 replies
tennis i think if you check his open tabs
2022-06-26 13:34
Tennis, CS and Hockey
2022-06-26 13:57
1 reply
But mostly tennis is most profitable for me, CS is something where I usually lose my profits, lol
2022-06-26 13:57
Did you verificated yourself? Because on all the betting sites ive been on you can not withdraw until you showed ur ID…
2022-06-26 13:23
ublock>abp
2022-06-26 13:31
why would you even keep such heavy money on a betting site. I sometimes withdraw even 500$ or less after a day or two depending on bank roll.
2022-06-26 13:37
1 reply
Well I started with 1900
2022-06-26 13:59
Ahahahaa bye bye
2022-06-26 13:43
#170
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Russia super_rat
unlucky
2022-06-26 13:58
on what did u bet? just curious ... if u wait some time, they should answer and u should withdraw atleast the money you put on the site...
2022-06-26 14:09
1 reply
Tennis, 3600 win is Tamba bay money line ice hockey and CS
2022-06-26 16:11
the only site i trust is 188bet, they have sponsors with muenchen and liverpool
2022-06-26 14:19
why not bet365 or betway? Their license is in the UK, not in Cyprus/Curacao
2022-06-26 14:21
2 replies
bet365 will do the same if you win big, they will limit your account and won't tell you the reason... they can also hold your money for some time to investigate if you didn't cheat in any way
2022-06-26 14:26
none of them are available in Slovakia
2022-06-26 14:40
#209
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Latvia R1tenis
Did you try withdrawing the money in parts? Like a 1000 at a time?
2022-06-26 14:34
1 reply
The withdraw option is not available, and I should contact support. I cannot withdraw or deposit.
2022-06-26 14:40
So my account is suspended and they are making a routine check, if I did not break any of the rules etc.
2022-06-26 14:42
4 replies
after u get da 20k give 500 to me i need for food
2022-06-26 16:06
2 replies
Just come here to Slovakia, they are giving everything for free to people from Ukraine.
2022-06-26 16:09
1 reply
true xd
2022-06-26 18:10
these fucks can do anything they want and they always get away with it so dont expect to get your money
2022-06-26 16:08
>betting on russian site >withdraw a lot of money choose one p.s pinnacle is the best betting site out there, official and no scamaz
2022-06-26 14:43
2 replies
nt :D:D: pinacle scam site nice best is bet365 and legit
2022-06-26 18:13
1 reply
Both are legit, difference is pinnacle will not limit if you win big & also has better odds
2022-06-26 21:19
Let me guess u were betting only on some low tier matches?
2022-06-26 16:14
13 replies
Not a very good guess, if it were some suspicious low tier matches they would not let me bet so much
2022-06-26 16:19
12 replies
Show us ur bets
2022-06-26 16:24
11 replies
He is probably some coach of low tier sport team and match was probably fixed with the talks of the other team LMAO
2022-06-26 18:17
10 replies
+1 u don't make 20k without fix
2022-06-26 20:57
8 replies
#272
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Latvia R1tenis
It's not that difficult to win like 5 bets in a row. And he had a loss in there as well.
2022-06-26 21:26
3 replies
yea yea
2022-06-26 21:30
Hes wagering thousands on 2x-3x odds with a win percentage of 80+. And the one bet he lost was with the lowest amount he wagered. Nobody bets like this if theyre clean its no wonder they flagged him
2022-06-26 21:35
1 reply
#283
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Latvia R1tenis
It's possible for people to go on lucky streaks while being 100% legit. And if you know gamblers, they don't give a fuck how much they bet, because they started with a way smaller amount.
2022-06-26 22:06
I have made over 50k this month and guess what... no fix :)
2022-06-27 00:06
2 replies
only 50k? those are rookie numbers i make 100k per month :)
2022-06-27 00:15
1 reply
#300
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United States zovint
I make 32k per month
2022-06-27 04:31
he has 11x.... once i had 127x till gambit picked nuke that day :**(
2022-06-27 00:41
Yes, 6 matches fixed and they let me bet 4000 on low tier match. Man you guys are so dumb..
2022-06-27 00:01
bye money that is what you get when betting on scam sites you should bet on bet365
2022-06-26 18:12
2 replies
U should keep ur mouth shut
2022-06-26 18:14
Bet365 would have already limited his account if he is winning that money
2022-06-27 00:01
#244
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Italy Skye620
Say bye bye to your money
2022-06-26 18:16
#245
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Finland FlNLAND
sdsdwqasqwweer5rt4ffffffffffseddsqaAA>Z XXZXZA<<Zxcsxcwsdsdassqwaq2w1aqwa3weweederrt5rtfgfgvbfcvdfxdcsdczsx edit: maybe expected from a site that is meant to take your money)
2022-06-26 18:18
its a default dont bet big amounts and round up the betting amounts, i mean dont bet 777$ - just bet 1000 or 500 or system will think you are a bot
2022-06-26 18:19
2 replies
#271
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Latvia R1tenis
Never heard of this. Why would bots bet 777 instead of 1000 or 500 like you mentioned?
2022-06-26 21:25
1 reply
Bots make 2 bets at different sites for opposite bets to make a profit, so these bots calculate the amounts and they are never equal.
2022-06-26 21:34
#253
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CIS 2ocean
Sad but you can bye with your money, especially ALL russian bookies block your account if you win more thab 2000$
2022-06-26 18:29
1 reply
True, I won 2k on two russian books both blocked and banned me after I managed to withdraw, luckily
2022-06-26 21:22
they'll probably just ignore you and count on you giving up since doing something about it would be a huge hassle for you,but idk anything. feel ur pain hope u manage to get the money though
2022-06-26 18:38
sorry but u will never be able to get em back, this is a common scam and u fell for it
2022-06-26 18:42
rest in rip
2022-06-26 18:46
#268
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Italy effetS
Remember: if the site is registered under some weird country, they can do whatever the fuck they want with your account, even stealing your money. It has been like this for decades.
2022-06-26 21:21
why would you ever put thousands to a site called fonbet lmao
2022-06-26 21:23
4 replies
guess why
2022-06-26 21:30
3 replies
because matchfix
2022-06-26 21:31
2 replies
exactly u don't go in shady sites if youre clean
2022-06-26 21:33
1 reply
All the bets were on tier 1 tennis, RB cup CS and NHL. But NT, mr. detective
2022-06-26 23:53
exactly what bettors deserve
2022-06-26 21:45
I trust only comeon and olybet
2022-06-27 00:00
dont play on sketchy sites man. I hope its not too much money for you
2022-06-27 00:00
lol you so dumb ,you just need to do verification with your bank card and passport probly ,or you just try to withdrawal to much in one payment...but i think its verification problem ,check all email ,every section mby in spam folder you have email from them where they ask verification
2022-06-27 00:10
5 replies
what an absolute idiot, unbelievable. You call me dumb and you do not know shit. My account is fully verified and you need to that in order to bet on this site, you have 30 days for that, I did it in february. You so dumb lol
2022-06-27 00:46
4 replies
so there cant be problem for you, withdraw with same method you deposited ,also just write to online support or someting .seek in site for it...cmon mate fucus
2022-06-27 01:49
3 replies
Bro my account is suspended I cannot even ask for a withdraw - "wihdrawal is unavailable, contact support". It has nothing to do with anything you are saying.
2022-06-27 04:21
2 replies
Hey dude. I am working in the gambling industry in Cyprus. Fonbet is very reliable and one of the best bookmakers available on the market from Russia. I can see your bets are very recent and it's high amounts.. I'm assuming that it is being checked by the finance or sports department and this process can take up to a week. Fonbet and any bookmaker have the right to hold any winnings or even revoke them, but if they are legitimate you will get paid, don't worry. There is no relation to fonbet is being located in Cyprus, they are still regulated by MGA.
2022-06-27 10:58
1 reply
nt fonbet smm
2022-06-27 11:20
#295
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Denmark Baxebondi
Hopefully support will tell you whether you can get your money or not. If they aren’t a scam site, they probably want to verify you before you can withdraw. Otherwise it sucks man.
2022-06-27 00:17
#301
NAF | 
Canada xyzoo
just bet at regular proofed bookie omg why yall so dumb
2022-06-27 04:40
I hope you get your money mens))
2022-06-27 04:44
This is why i only bet on Oddset, it’s government owned, has a commitment to pay out atleast 52% of earnings ( if i remember, mby higher ) and all earnings go to good causes, nu middlemen earning money. My account balance is about 30k there right now, because my bank has negative interests at the moment Sadly you can only bet on there if you’re a danish citizen
2022-06-27 04:51
4 replies
#308
NAF | 
Canada xyzoo
30k $ or 30k dk?
2022-06-27 04:55
3 replies
€ Almost all my savings
2022-06-27 05:12
2 replies
#312
NAF | 
Canada xyzoo
damn be careful bro and good luck in the future!
2022-06-27 05:37
1 reply
Same to you man
2022-06-27 05:55
why using weird site?
2022-06-27 05:19
they are just not going to pay They will find some random rule that you did not follow, apparently. I used to work on similar platform
2022-06-27 06:33
Reading naive comments by OP here made me laugh and sad about him at the same time((
2022-06-27 08:28
FONBET XDD
2022-06-27 11:00
Voor 20k kan je best een rechtszaak aanspannen denk ik Dan moeten ze wel
2022-06-27 11:07
imagine betting LUL
2022-06-27 11:12
Most probably your winnings will be paid if they are legitimate and you have not violated any T%C with a fraud betting pattern. You will also get blocked from their company and you are restricted on sports as per revenue loss for the company.
2022-06-27 11:17
scammed
2022-06-29 20:14
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