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"BIG won because online"
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Ukraine Valta 
2022-07-01 12:53
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BIG is like the ultimate counter to FaZe, they just always perfom good against them for some weird reason
2022-07-01 12:54
16 replies
It's like really early CS where NiP owned everyone but HellRaisers always found a way to challenge them
2022-07-01 12:54
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#157
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Australia Aquaaa
Or whenever Liquid played against Astralia in 2019 lol
2022-07-02 07:15
#5
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Australia NoLeS
Because they picking dust and mirage lul. Especially dust
2022-07-01 12:55
4 replies
Yeah FaZe loves those scrappy aim duels always over the place type of game which might fit BIG really good since BiG has insane firepower with TabseN+Syrson Even Tizian has been good aimer lately
2022-07-01 12:57
2 replies
tizian has insane raw aim he just plays shitty positions against teams with a more tactical approach where he just gets killed by utility or a group of people coming at him, against a team like faze that live for these 1v1s its a lot easier for players with bitch roles like tabsen
2022-07-01 19:40
#159
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United States kami917
Definitely didn’t help that karrigan was missing everything, man that guy sucks online
2022-07-02 07:29
They also beat Faze on Overpass, meanwhile the only map Faze won was Nuke
2022-07-01 12:57
this^
2022-07-01 13:07
Y ,i remember their 2020 streak agsinst faze,just a cryptonite
2022-07-01 13:15
Only a german IGL knows how to beat a german IGL
2022-07-01 14:47
1 reply
German efficiency off the charts
2022-07-01 14:49
karrigan learned how to IGL from gob b, ofc BIG has the best chances to outplay him
2022-07-01 15:47
Faze very good at punishing mistakes. Big didnt make any mistakes this match -> Faze do nothing
2022-07-01 16:01
#130
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Italy steven513
+1
2022-07-01 20:39
I think BIG is counter for very top teams, like Navi lost to them many times
2022-07-02 06:27
BIG is like the ultimate ONLINE team
2022-07-03 01:37
#2
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Australia NoLeS
True, people just can't accept BIG is the greatest team of all time
2022-07-01 12:54
20 replies
0/8 b8
2022-07-01 12:55
+1 so true
2022-07-01 12:56
+1
2022-07-01 12:58
hmm that's a little bit of 🧢
2022-07-01 12:58
#21
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Ukraine naviis
0/8
2022-07-01 13:02
8 replies
#34
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Australia NoLeS
tell me where did NaVi place in Roobet Cup? Exactly, BIG >>>. NaVi didn't even win a single map let alone a series
2022-07-01 13:19
7 replies
#84
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Ukraine naviis
Navi can win against big also u cant compare between a top 1 navi with bot big
2022-07-01 15:27
#86
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Ukraine naviis
1 WEEK AGO BIG LOST OT NAVI 2-0 KEKW
2022-07-01 15:30
5 replies
Ok let's get you back to your room.
2022-07-01 15:45
4 replies
#90
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Ukraine naviis
ok boomer
2022-07-01 15:46
3 replies
omg what a comeback!!! i'm too stunned and hurt to reply
2022-07-01 15:48
2 replies
XD
2022-07-01 15:51
He's the average navi fan, everyone over 15yo is "boomer" for him
2022-07-01 19:58
+1
2022-07-01 14:25
+1
2022-07-01 15:44
#91
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Germany pumpy
+1
2022-07-01 15:46
BIG = BIG IS GOOD
2022-07-01 16:04
+1
2022-07-01 20:50
+111111
2022-07-01 21:21
#181
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Russia super_rat
+1
2022-07-03 01:44
syrsoN onliner
2022-07-01 12:55
2 replies
#113
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Germany l3oNmC
1.1 Rating on LAN is fine. Better online bc he can play from home where his comfort zone is. He´s just a introverted person
2022-07-01 19:08
1 reply
No he is Just inexperienced on LAN only 8 LANs played in whole career
2022-07-01 19:54
BIG is doing good tbh, they are really doing great now with Faven & Krimbo. With everyone just performing well now.
2022-07-01 12:56
18 replies
How are they? This win was without faveN lol
2022-07-01 13:09
17 replies
I know, but ever since Krimbo joined they performed way better.
2022-07-01 13:27
16 replies
They've been complete and utter shit ever since XANTARES left. This is their only real result and it wasn't even with their full roster
2022-07-01 14:01
15 replies
What are you even saying? Ever since Can left they started getting way better results
2022-07-01 14:25
2 replies
Are you being intentionally dense? BiG haven't achieved ANYTHING at all since XANTARES left...until now....with a stand-in
2022-07-01 14:42
1 reply
cuz they tried different ways when he left. But their success depended always on tabsen, not on anyone else.
2022-07-01 14:48
This is completely inaccurate unless your definition of utter shit is winning an event and doing well at a bunch of others
2022-07-01 16:46
11 replies
They have not done well at a bunch of others, and if you learned to read, I already acknowledged their stand-in win MULTIPLE times. They have 0 achievements since XANTARES
2022-07-01 20:53
10 replies
I don't think that is true
2022-07-01 21:39
9 replies
Show the bunch of other good results then please? I have looked through their last events and there's many group stage exits
2022-07-01 22:40
8 replies
Well in my opinion they exceeded expectations at the major. Any team who places where they did there cannot be described as utter shit or you are basically saying all but a few teams are awful and then you have to ask why you even watch it.
2022-07-02 08:15
7 replies
BiG came 12th at the Major, how is that a good result? That it utter shit
2022-07-02 14:08
6 replies
How well do you think they need to do before you wouldn't call it "utter shit"? Quite a lot of teams entered it, so that must mean all but the top 8 teams are utter shit?
2022-07-02 15:29
Seems like every team that isn't the current no. 1 is "utter shit" for you.
2022-07-02 15:33
according to your logic every team that isnt top 3 and wins events is utter shit xD only bc big didnt dominate recently like navi and faze did for some time doesnt mean that they didnt improve massively and show signs of their 2020 domination phase
2022-07-02 16:08
3 replies
A team that goes out in lower groups every event is, by definition, dogshit.
2022-07-02 18:01
2 replies
see a doctor
2022-07-03 01:12
1 reply
I think you should. You just said 12th place is a great placing and shows signs of their dominance in 2020 when they were world number 1 for 2 months. Lmao
2022-07-03 01:24
syrson on online final +30 syrson on lan -2
2022-07-01 12:57
Big tend to do well against Faze, something about their playstyle suits them
2022-07-01 12:58
#15
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Czech Republic Evis1337
that's a studio match, and not real lan.
2022-07-01 12:59
8 replies
#29
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Ukraine Valta
LAN = Local Area Network
2022-07-01 13:09
1 reply
#60
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Czech Republic Evis1337
wow ur so smart, you know what LAN is. do you know what is LAN party?
2022-07-01 14:19
#67
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Italy PhilD06
it’s not a studio match it’s an online tournament where ppl stay in their houses and play lol
2022-07-01 14:22
5 replies
#70
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Czech Republic Evis1337
then why is he making this thread
2022-07-01 14:25
4 replies
once you can read, come back to this thread
2022-07-02 16:08
3 replies
#173
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Czech Republic Evis1337
Can you read tho? I don't think so
2022-07-02 17:16
2 replies
he posted a link to a lan event as a reference
2022-07-02 17:23
1 reply
#175
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Czech Republic Evis1337
RMR QUALIFIER = LAN
2022-07-02 17:24
#16
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Brazil kotetz
faze won the major, BiG 1-3
2022-07-01 12:59
15 replies
so? and faze have been struggleing ever since... + the tournament wasnt that stacked
2022-07-01 13:00
14 replies
#20
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Brazil kotetz
Big cant even make it to the playoffs in Lan tournaments, but are always winning online
2022-07-01 13:02
7 replies
always winning online? when was the last time they won an online tournament?... they even lost a bo3 against mouz online
2022-07-01 13:06
2 replies
they won 4 online events during online era and are yet to win anything on lan since then??
2022-07-01 13:48
1 reply
yeah and that was when? 2 years ago? what online tournaments did they win ever since? right just one...
2022-07-01 13:50
Big were notorious for losing to shit teams online, only because they won this tourney doesn't mean you can just rewrite history
2022-07-01 13:08
#28
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Ukraine Valta
IEM Dallas 2022 BIG 3-4th $20,000 FaZe 5-6th $10,000
2022-07-01 13:09
2 replies
#35
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Brazil kotetz
Blast spring? Major? Pro league?
2022-07-01 13:24
1 reply
You just got proven wrong lol, stop denying.
2022-07-01 16:09
Did you just said that PGL Major wasn't stacked? What r u smoking? :)))))
2022-07-01 13:52
5 replies
are you dumb? i meant the roobet. use your braincells just for you... Big won an online Tournament which wasnt that stacked and faze have be struggling since the major
2022-07-01 13:54
4 replies
#57
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Palestine 500
how dare you have a differentiated opinion and shed a light on both teams instead of blind fanboying? get off of hltv immediately.
2022-07-01 14:13
1 reply
+1
2022-07-01 14:31
I understood now, but from the context that your reply was in one could think you said that pgl wasn't stacked
2022-07-01 14:30
1 reply
lol :D well wasnt it kinda obvious?
2022-07-01 14:32
#18
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Japan JadzStar
no way are you posting a link to a major that faze ended up WINNING N0vi fans in a nutshell
2022-07-01 13:00
9 replies
n1vi
2022-07-01 13:06
#33
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Serbia DjapeZ
rekt
2022-07-01 13:19
32-7
2022-07-01 14:05
6 replies
mad
2022-07-01 20:38
5 replies
yea they didnt beat them 16-0 second map its kinda annyoing
2022-07-01 20:39
4 replies
You still feel hurt after NaVi got rekt by FaZe on major? Time to let it go man
2022-07-01 20:40
3 replies
umm no? i just said that that isnt the case? can u read do u have at least 30 iq points...honestly i doubt it
2022-07-01 20:41
2 replies
It's okay man, give your feelings some time. Hope you didn't hurt any of your S1mple posters in your room
2022-07-01 20:42
1 reply
yea no point in arguing with a creature that has 0 actual arguments
2022-07-01 20:43
BiG won cause faze weren't trying it was clear as day that faze are 2 heads above BiG
2022-07-01 13:28
16 replies
#40
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Germany Vschen
5Head picking up 50k instead of 150k just to make big look good true lul
2022-07-01 13:50
15 replies
Remember what ropz said: "Tournaments prizes are just a nice bonus" kek
2022-07-01 13:53
4 replies
maybe some braincells would be a bonus for you
2022-07-01 13:55
2 replies
I really wonder what dumb as* mfs like you do for a living, except insulting ppl on a random game forum
2022-07-01 14:31
1 reply
only one insulting here has been you so chapeau
2022-07-02 16:11
#163
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Nigeria YengSheng
but also sounds like a exuse when u are playing bad i would rather win 150k than being in the group stage of cologne and win only 24k
2022-07-02 09:02
150k very big money for faze yea, like players care about extra +30jk you think this is motivation for them? They are living rich life for a long time
2022-07-01 13:58
7 replies
#53
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Kuwait seca34958
are you mentally handicapped? it's not about the prize money as it's about winning for them they play to win. if they didn't try to win, they wouldn't even enter the tournament
2022-07-01 14:05
6 replies
I think you have less cs knowledge then me You seem a type of guy that will bet on tier1 team in Pinnacle cup and lose and then cry about 322. Also the fact team is in the tournament means their org sign a contract with ROOBET. This tournament is nothing but a big ad
2022-07-01 14:11
5 replies
#58
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Kuwait seca34958
I don't bet and if you have so much "cs knowledge", tell me why those people are pro players? because they care about money only? or because they want to win?
2022-07-01 14:15
4 replies
you typed "they wouldn't even enter the tournament" like how you imagine it, 5 players sit at table and like: do we want to win? do we go for that tournament?. Jesus, your questions very cute but dumb. Org sign players, they have to play whatever tournament org will tell them to play, even sec34958 DICK CUP. What do you think, will they sweat in that tournament? I wouldn't
2022-07-01 14:17
2 replies
#66
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Kuwait seca34958
if the players have 0 say in joining a tournament, then the org is shit. and yes, pro players try to win every match, that's why they are pro players. it's like saying football teams don't try to win friendlies
2022-07-01 14:21
1 reply
haha bro you are very naive, gl with that
2022-07-01 14:22
cs is not only about players want to win, its also about contract obligations and bussiness
2022-07-01 14:19
I will say more, BiG didn't look good, they were winning on the back of other team playing shit. just lucky some players pefromed in crucial situations
2022-07-01 14:03
1 reply
Yeah just lucky they performed man
2022-07-01 16:15
#38
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Lithuania ashas
BIG won, because dust2 is a free map for them and idk what logic teams are using in their vetos. FaZe permabanned vertigo when they have advantage on it... just permaban dust2, leave vertigo to float, but nah, lets leave dust2 and hand them a free map pick, where BIG are well known gods...
2022-07-01 13:38
#42
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Scotland Ludax
The Manchester United of csgo, lose to shit teams and win against good ones
2022-07-01 13:51
1 reply
they lost against good ones as well
2022-07-01 14:06
#43
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Sweden skorpan
Big won because the had standin! Guys wake up! this is the standin meta!
2022-07-01 13:51
#50
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
it's a shame they lost to Vitality bots during Legends due to silly mistakes.
2022-07-01 14:02
#61
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Germany EZ_for_BIG
THIS! BIG looks unbeatable in their current form after the krimboN addition. They will win cologne, lets see who talks shit after that
2022-07-01 14:19
2 replies
+1
2022-07-01 14:20
Idk k1to played so good, he was very important for their success here. faveN is good player as well but we dont know how they will perform now with him. Kinda a luxury problem for BIG now
2022-07-01 15:53
I am glad BiG won this small tournament, I am glad for Tabsen, Cause they will never win any again. And Tabsen does deserve it. But still time to go international imo.
2022-07-01 14:19
21 replies
You will see
2022-07-01 14:32
6 replies
I know I will, I just told you. So you will see :)
2022-07-01 15:38
5 replies
Cya after Cologne
2022-07-01 15:56
4 replies
remember me
2022-07-01 19:04
3 replies
well, fuck
2022-07-07 21:48
2 replies
Yea well. I feel sorry for Tabsen.
2022-07-07 21:53
1 reply
And the rest as well. Man, it was so devastating to watch, i was heartbroken
2022-07-07 21:59
No way, who would even make them better that would join BIG lol.
2022-07-01 16:16
13 replies
well which german will make them better?
2022-07-01 19:04
12 replies
Why would they need to change? They just won a 250k tourney.
2022-07-01 19:08
11 replies
So now you think they gonna keep winning? really? Sorry to break it to you, since I know you will be biased. But it was a fluke
2022-07-01 19:09
10 replies
Even if it was, why would you change after winning? And how would making them international be an improvement? Which player?
2022-07-01 19:10
9 replies
Well ok let's just say they should stay as is, Then they will not move anywhere. They are in the same catagory as Astralis, OG and Mouz in my opinion. They will keep being there if they don't make changes. Maybe they are happy with that. But if they want more, they need more.
2022-07-01 19:12
8 replies
Like which player?
2022-07-01 19:18
7 replies
Anyone better than their current ones of course, its up to BiG to get one, not me. I don't fucking care, I just state the facts that they need more than they have now.
2022-07-01 19:31
6 replies
Just name any available player that would make them better lol.
2022-07-01 19:33
4 replies
But why? Am I hired to find players for BIG? when I get the salary I will do so. If you are happy with the team as it is now, and don't want them to achieve more, then sure let them keep as is. But you aswell as me know they need a stronger team.
2022-07-01 19:39
3 replies
Cause there is no single available player that would make them better while going international.
2022-07-01 20:10
2 replies
Then they won't win
2022-07-01 21:16
1 reply
They just did lol. My point still stands, there is no international player thats available where it would make any sense. So why even think about risking it.
2022-07-02 01:25
they improved a lot already when you look at their beginnings from 2022. thing is k1to was a big factor for them this tournament. letting him go completely would be a mistake imo. but faveN is also a decent player, i barely see him disappoint he is just a very stable player who can step up in crucial moments as well. krimbo is a good investment in the future, already very calm and collected considering he never played at that level before only some german championships afaik. their academy team is decent as well, letting one player help them out and teach them could be huge for the future. they can already challenge the best teams, they need to get the LAN experience in and keep cool there as well. i don't see how that wouldn't work out for them in the long run if they keep pushing the right buttons.
2022-07-01 19:47
#64
GIGA | 
Chad dooddi
that match wasnt final, was it?
2022-07-01 14:20
#69
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
BIG won because they were the better team, be it because it was online or not. BIG have always been the ultimate upset team and it's a shame there has never been any championship winning consistency to them.
2022-07-01 14:24
1 reply
Incoming last place on cologne
2022-07-01 21:14
Bro don't you know FaZe didnt prepare against BIG both times. Don't so so hard on them bro they are deserved top 1.
2022-07-01 14:32
big won cuz faze sucks
2022-07-01 14:34
BIG isn't an onliner team, they're just unlucky that their best form came in the online-era, but overall they always played a solid CS, never could match the firepower of Tier-1 teams though, maybe now with Krimbo it will change.
2022-07-01 15:49
6 replies
So being Top20 makes you a Tier-2 team? Omegalul
2022-07-01 16:00
1 reply
I have absolutely no idea wdym by that.
2022-07-01 16:01
jerman big using bug in 2016
2022-07-01 17:01
1 reply
2017*
2022-07-01 17:06
#154
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Finland KieZuZ
"they're just unlucky that their best form came in the online-era" = exactly what onliners are.
2022-07-02 06:49
1 reply
They could've done the same on LAN.
2022-07-02 11:48
yeah, and then 1-3 in major. nt bro xD
2022-07-01 15:50
Online team won, nothing special
2022-07-01 19:38
It's because FaZe always let BIG pick maps where onlinesoN can hurt them
2022-07-01 19:40
Money laundering event, who the fuck cares
2022-07-01 19:59
Big won because FaZe is Fluke Clan.
2022-07-01 20:41
4 replies
Take it easy and cope slow navi fan
2022-07-01 20:45
3 replies
Cope with what exactly?
2022-07-01 21:12
2 replies
You know exactly what i mean, breath in.... breath out.... breath in... breath out...
2022-07-01 21:19
1 reply
actually I don't. Thank you for your concern tho.
2022-07-01 21:25
#143
ropz | 
Germany Mknzy
well Fs for Karrigan not banning Dust against BIG. BIG just so crisp on that map atm and in general getting better and better
2022-07-01 21:14
1 reply
#155
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India Nijer
Veto was fine, they wanna practice on d2 because it has been pretty shit for them and then they had 2 comfortable maps after that where they could have won on mirage until they decided to choke like always
2022-07-02 06:49
#153
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Finland KieZuZ
Just another standin abuser team.
2022-07-02 06:48
If Furia doesn't make it I hope Big wins Cologne.
2022-07-02 07:03
wait what big won someting? I didnt know there was any important events going lol
2022-07-02 07:27
0 Majors Still
2022-07-02 08:20
BIG won because Syrson is a beast online. Thats it. And everybody hopes, that he will find this form on LAN because that would be insane to see the crowd reactions in cologne.
2022-07-02 08:58
Such a dumb thread lol FaZe has lost to all kinds of shitters on LAN. BIG still would never win a T1 LAN tournament
2022-07-02 09:06
1 reply
+1 BiG>FaZe
2022-07-02 10:20
BiG didn’t win a LAN, so they are onliners. Cope harder
2022-07-03 01:13
2 replies
They won a LAN in 2020 and beside BIG only Navi archived this in 2020
2022-07-03 01:58
1 reply
Great
2022-07-03 03:31
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