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I am crazy if i say she could be in a male t2 team??
2022-07-01 18:10
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she probably doesnt have a great gamesense but idk
2022-07-01 18:11
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Wdh why do you say so?
2022-07-01 18:23
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#23
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United States Azaqa
well you cant expect someone who only played faceit to have good enough gamesense for pro level... in the same way you cant expect a tier 3 player to have good enough gamesense to be on faze, or in this case for a female pro (tier ???) to be good enough for tier 2. Individual shes definitely good enough but gamesense its hard to say
2022-07-01 18:25
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#46
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Same could be applied to anybody coming into t2 or t3. That's hy they are there and not in t1
2022-07-01 18:48
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#47
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United States Azaqa
no bro most of them have already been playing in FPL for a long time or in even lower tier teams, its quite rare people go from faceit directly into tier 2 lol
2022-07-01 18:49
6 replies
What does fpl have to do with gamesense im wondering... Its just a faceit pug but sometimes you face better players. Although thats not even true, in 3.5k-4k avg elo pugs ppl propably try way harder than fpl players
2022-07-02 13:20
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#102
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United States Azaqa
Bro are you dumb? You think pros only learned gamesense in officials? Never seen a good take from you
2022-07-02 18:54
4 replies
No but you get gamesense by playing and watching the game in general, idk why you bring up fpl in particular. If youve never seen a good take from me im wondering either what you read or what is a good take for you lmao. Because i would question your ability to judge a good take then. Not saying i dont have bad takes as well
2022-07-02 19:12
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#110
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United States Azaqa
FPL is faceit pro league... I mean we have a 5 stack from FPL making legends stage at the major (BNE) safe to say the level of FPL is way above 3k elo players lmao
2022-07-02 19:20
2 replies
i never said it isnt. Also that 5 stack didnt make it because they played fpl and then just played the major. Ofc they pracced as a team and played tournaments with that team. I just meant that some 3-4k elo stacks are playing way more serious than fpls. Wasnt fpl a joke for quite some time?
2022-07-02 19:45
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#130
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United States Azaqa
NA fpl was a joke (kind of still is) but dont think EU fpl was ever much of a joke, people just got angry when they kicked some pros with no explanation also pretty sure BNE practiced for like literally a few weeks before qualifiers/RMRs started, all in all they got maybe a month of practice in before the major and thats on the high end
2022-07-02 19:54
#75
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Obviously she isnt this level. But what about zywoo? he played t5 then went to vitality and instantly was a star. So i disagree with the argument of lack of game sense. Its not like shes new to csgo or anything, just new to the pro scene because lack of acceptance for women for so long
2022-07-02 12:43
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#101
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United States Azaqa
Bruh such a cringe argument, its obvious ana isnt on the level of people like ropz zywoo or m0nesy who went from low level to t1... reminder that these womens teams have lost to t5 in the small sample sizes we have
2022-07-02 18:53
10 replies
hes not saying she's at their level, hes using them as an example of the fact they went from a small team to a big team and it payed off meaning it can work for ana too
2022-07-02 18:56
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#108
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United States Azaqa
Yea well it can pay off or you can end up with someone like Lucky on astralis
2022-07-02 19:12
6 replies
even then lucky still proved he can perform, astralis just didnt wanna keep him onboard, thats why he got signed with tricked and is still playing
2022-07-02 19:41
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#121
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United States Azaqa
dude he did not prove he can perform, he was very obviously thrown into a tier way above his level and was struggling the whole time. Also he was already on tricked before astralis, he just went back to his old team lol. Plus thats a jump from t3-t4 to t1, much less of a gamble than this would be
2022-07-02 19:43
4 replies
he was thrown onto a disfunctional roster that needed an awper but didnt have room for a passive awper. Also he was actually good on the rifle, they couldve made him an anchor/support maybe. He had some really solid holds on ct side. His awping wasnt what astralis needed tho. But you cant tell me that astralis is looking that much better with farlig now than they couldve looked with lucky if they sorted out some problems
2022-07-02 19:48
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#127
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United States Azaqa
they definitely look much better, but they arent going to be an actual competitive team until they can do something like -xyp +valde
2022-07-02 19:52
1 reply
Well I think they need a better awper a player that can entry, xyp is underrated but he is just not an entry and because blameF is the lurk he doesnt have a place in the team sadly. Idk how or why astralis didnt/couldnt get any of the cph flames players
2022-07-02 21:44
That’s a jump to T2, Astralis sure isn’t T1
2022-07-02 21:56
+1 actual brain found
2022-07-02 19:14
+1
2022-07-02 19:30
#148
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Russia slstune
broky, bymas, frozen, ropz are all came from fpl
2022-07-02 20:47
she plays in lower tier cs and opponents are trash so you dont learn as much
2022-07-01 18:27
#5
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Denmark Mister_A
gunskill wise yes
2022-07-01 18:12
nigma doesnt play t2? waste of talent, ana is def better than some "t1" awpers we have today.
2022-07-01 18:12
4 replies
#87
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India mirapakay
mantuu & hades
2022-07-02 13:08
2 replies
#98
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North America Langl3y
OG ana incoming
2022-07-02 13:36
#135
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North America minte
RESPECT HADES
2022-07-02 20:05
Don't disrespect AleksiB like that
2022-07-02 20:07
female s1mple
2022-07-01 18:12
1 reply
+1
2022-07-02 12:56
#8
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Estonia Hazardouz
Yes
2022-07-01 18:12
she could yes, these numbers are fucking ridic hltv.org/stats/players/12758/ana?startDa..
2022-07-01 18:13
2 replies
2022-07-01 18:22
against females (esea open level
2022-07-02 20:51
Hard to judge without her playing against tier 2 male teams, the female teams in general are hard to judge because they mostly play between each others. Would be really cool if she tried though
2022-07-01 18:13
i wanna see her play for complexity just for trial
2022-07-01 18:16
8 replies
Lmfao why?
2022-07-01 18:29
5 replies
ana > junior
2022-07-01 18:32
4 replies
ok makes sense
2022-07-01 18:32
+1
2022-07-01 18:41
#70
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Romania Pecea
Igl:Ana Rifler:Ana Rifler:Ana Lurker:Ana Support:Ana ez complexity fix
2022-07-01 19:08
1 reply
dont give me hope
2022-07-01 19:08
or play vs complexity so they will finally disband
2022-07-01 18:30
+1
2022-07-02 12:56
She and her 3k elo teammates usually bottomfrag in fpl-c what speaks for itself No, she couldn't
2022-07-01 18:23
Based on Faceit elo (not ideal indicator), more like t3 or so, but yeah. Hoping to see female cs develop
2022-07-01 18:27
12 replies
What is her faceit elo?
2022-07-01 18:25
11 replies
9 replies
>2999 elo and bottomfragging in every second fpl-c game >T3 Pick one
2022-07-01 18:32
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#49
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United States Azaqa
as far as autimatic, a lot of NA players (especially back then) mostly played ESEA and not faceit
2022-07-01 18:50
2 replies
2173 games is sufficient sample
2022-07-01 18:53
1 reply
#60
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United States Azaqa
What i mean is almost all of the matches are from 2019-2022 (after his prime) plus a lot of them are him messing around with tarik and them
2022-07-01 18:57
#73
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China Tohsaka
NA doesn't have elo inflation
2022-07-01 19:09
Didn't know there were female players in FPL-C
2022-07-02 20:22
I don't have premium, that's why I asked, but thanks :P
2022-07-01 18:31
1 reply
2999 xDddd
2022-07-01 18:28
#20
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Finland AliSabid
GOAT
2022-07-01 18:22
#29
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China Zhusha
She looks great in this league, but remember that junior looks like a god when he plays in tier 2 NA tournaments
2022-07-01 18:29
1 reply
He did, I think now he even struggles there..
2022-07-02 13:22
#32
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Austria maashh
Can't say until she actually plays against/with Tier 2 Teams
2022-07-01 18:31
maximum esea main
2022-07-01 18:41
#45
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Poland IDIEYOUNG
If she enough good why no.
2022-07-01 18:45
Actually Furia Fe played Aorus league with mens they lost 16 0 and 16 5 to tier 5 Brazilian teams. Furia is T1 female team not as good as Nigma Galaxy but close to them. So its clear that top 3 fe teams cant even play against tier 5 men teams. Also remember what happend in Lol when they let womans team to compete, they didnt win a single map in full league.
2022-07-01 18:57
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#67
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United States Azaqa
well the league thing Im pretty sure they didnt even get good women, just random women because.... women also nobody on furia fe is getting stats like ana, obviously nigma galaxy isnt a t2 team but ana with 1.43 rating could be a t2 player
2022-07-01 19:03
10 replies
Well remember Serena and Venus then, two best Wta tennis players in that time, they lost 6 0 and 6 1 to 210ranked guy, when people claimed they can play with mens.
2022-07-01 19:04
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#69
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United States Azaqa
well imo physical sports are different and only delusional people thing the best women can play vs the best men... I mean men have a biological advantage in physical sports, but esports is different imo. I think it was the australian womens football team who lost to mens under 15 football team so like... lol
2022-07-01 19:06
So wait....1.20 rating females get clapped by T5 but you think Ana can just handle herself in T2 cuz of a .20 rating increase? Thats just dumb. Its been proven time and time again that the gap in professional sports is crazy and i dont see why esports would be any different
2022-07-02 19:37
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#116
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United States Azaqa
its not 1.20 rating females, its like 1.00-1.15, maybe not t2 but definitely deserves a chance at t2.5 or t3 at least also its fucking obvious why professional sports and esports would be different, men have an actual biological advantage in professional sports
2022-07-02 19:39
5 replies
the average for furia fe is like 1.15/1.16 In esports you have the same exact biological advantages....you have never watched a female and you are just chatting shit, cuz if you had watched some games you would realize that the reaction time in those games is crazy slow, again, cuz of genetics and its not just reaction time, there are a lot of other factors that are also influenced by genetics. What im trying to say is Ana has as big a chance of doing good in T2/3/4 as Britney Griner has of beating Demarcus cousins in a 1vs1 :)
2022-07-02 19:45
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#126
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United States Azaqa
Ive been watching this entire valencia event, and watched a map or two in dallas aswell lol... yes some of these female pros have really shit reaction time but thats also not the case from what ive seen with ana... also stop comparing professional sports to esports its just stupid lmao, yes there are SOME biological advantages men still have but its only the mental ones, in professional sports there are many PHYSICAL advantages (stronger/larger skeletal frame, testosterone leading to bigger muscles, and many more) A better comparison is chess, where the best female player actually reached 8th in the world. There are still some advantages in mental sports/esports but theyre much more minor
2022-07-02 19:51
3 replies
Esports is much much much much much closer to Sports than it is to fucking chess but it is pretty clear you are unwilling to acknowledge how influencial genetics are in CS so no point in continuing this
2022-07-02 19:54
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#131
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United States Azaqa
dude you cant just say genetics are soooo influential and then give no evidence or examples of genetic advantages, esports is NOT closer to sports than to chess, its a lot more of a mental game and there is no "physical" element to it which eliminates almost all biological advantages
2022-07-02 19:56
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You want evidence search it up little man.....ill even give you the 3 main differences that have been proven through studies and you go ham with those google searches :) Men have been proven to be very superior to women in hand eye coordination, reaction times and most impotantly the mens ability to make precise split second decisions is VERY superior to a womans.
2022-07-02 20:02
juliano >>> cadian
2022-07-02 20:27
#71
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Singapore Jjonath0n
u think too lowly of tier 2 players, i think ANA should start on T3, maybe a few month of hardwork and good coaching, move up to tier 2
2022-07-01 19:08
i am pro ANA
2022-07-02 12:42
#76
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
I think shes better then smooya or woxic. Unironically
2022-07-02 12:44
18 replies
0/8
2022-07-02 12:47
16 replies
#78
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
not bait, have you actually watched the games?
2022-07-02 12:48
15 replies
no, but smooya can also take 1.4 rating vs bots
2022-07-02 12:51
14 replies
and look like a god
2022-07-02 12:51
average HLTV user
2022-07-02 13:16
#99
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
lul aNA has 1.43 rating smooya has 1.2 so if your logic is purely ratings (which is stupid) then idk But her aim and positioning actually looks better then smooya imo. I also feel like she has pretty decent utility usage.
2022-07-02 13:56
11 replies
#120
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United States Azaqa
you gotta be baiting LMAO smooya in this womens league would get 1.8 rating every match, its obvious that even while smooya is in t3 hes playing against infinitely higher tier of opponent also you cant judge positioning when she only plays against people who arent good enough to punish bad positioning, and utility edge just stop......
2022-07-02 19:41
10 replies
+1 Ridiculous how stupid these people are, probably thinking with their dicks. You can't even compare female CS to tier 3, even tier 5 where players might not even get paid. Complete different set of players. Some of the teams she's played against could literally be beaten by random 2k elo players, these comparisons are so fucking stupid xD Put any tier 5 player into these matches and they're farming 1.8 rating every match. Edit: Look at this match where she farmed 2.2 rating, literally the whole team of ATK is Lvl 5 Faceit. And people are comparing her 1.4 avg rating to smooya's 1.2 rating against actual Tier 3 players. hltv.org/matches/2356237/nigma-galaxy-vs.. Also against BIG Equipa where she got 1.1 rating, most of the BIG Equipa players are Lvl 7-10 players. And people are saying she could play in Tier 3 xD
2022-07-02 20:18
9 replies
The thing that annoys me the most is the way they disrespect tier 3 players, these people have no idea how brutal those leagues are
2022-07-02 20:24
8 replies
It's so fucking retarded, she is actually 2.9K elo which I didn't even know at first. That's legit nothing these days, you can meet 15 year old Russian kids with over 3k elo these days like it's nothing, 3k ELO is similar to what ordinary 2K ELO was 2-3 years ago, literally nothing special. And people are comparing her to professional players that play on a way higher level than 3k elo.
2022-07-02 20:27
7 replies
Those kids are fucking brutal, so imagine semi pros fighting for the chance of going pro they would bully any of these teams, for some reason these people think that tier 3 players are shit
2022-07-02 20:29
3 replies
I guess it's just that they are used to watching these Top 10 Tier 1 teams play on the biggest stages, and don't know anything about the level and backgrounds below Top 30 HLTV. Then they see a female putting 1.4 avg rating versus other females, but just because it's at the highest level of female play they think it's super impressive. There's a thing that xseveN once said in an interview that I will always remember, he said that everything up to 3k ELO is literally just shooting and lot of people act like these ordinary 3k ELO grinders could stand a chance against semi-pros that play in a team since pugs and team-play are complete different game. Maybe mechanically, but in other aspects they get smoked 100-0. Like you said put any semi-pro team on a life or death situation where they could get signed, and they will absolute destroy these female teams, no offence but it's true.
2022-07-02 20:43
2 replies
a good example is open qualifiers you see tier 2 and tier 1 teams get eliminated by complete nobodies, again to show that the low tiers are brutal, and im all for the female tournaments just dont pretend that they gonna ever challenge the male pros because they wont
2022-07-02 20:47
1 reply
Exactly
2022-07-02 20:50
not to mention that her stats are against low tier opposition, and im not even gonna mention the joke that is Atk fe, because is an insult that they got to play on lan
2022-07-02 20:39
2 replies
Yeah the skill gap between these team's is so stupid, all just for a movement to improve female esports xddd Pretty sure all Nigma Galaxy players are like 2.5k-3.5k ELO. While ATK would still struggle in matchmaking xD Such a disgrace
2022-07-02 20:45
1 reply
the decision to have south Africans qualifiers for females on a country that does not have even a male scene is absurd, like what did they expect
2022-07-02 20:54
0/8 delusional canadian ANa is goat of female cs but not better than woxic
2022-07-02 21:54
#81
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Portugal ImCooL
Maybe let her team play a really low tier event first against tier 5 teams first and then go up from there.
2022-07-02 12:53
Soon male + female in a team
2022-07-02 13:05
She has sick aim and reactions at least for sure
2022-07-02 13:07
-CERQ + ANA ?!?!?!?!?
2022-07-02 13:07
1 reply
Dont destroy her carreer lol
2022-07-02 13:23
maybe tier3, she knows that she can't compete in tier1-2, she even said on stream that they don't deserve to play fpl and that they prac against esea main/advanced teams and against advanced teams they lose a lot, the gap between female and male is too big.
2022-07-02 13:09
2 replies
but if she plays with better players probably she will get into their level no?
2022-07-02 13:13
Well her Team loses, the question is if she coupd perform at a better level on a better team i guess
2022-07-02 13:24
#91
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Czech Republic imotfhere
better than every romanian player
2022-07-02 13:19
3 replies
There are a lot of decent romanian players:)
2022-07-02 13:25
Delusional
2022-07-02 18:59
Neh, but she s still good
2022-07-02 22:11
No one can say for sure before she has been tested against male teams at that level
2022-07-02 13:22
Cmon ana make the jump play with a romanian roster Ana Launx Blytz Im/renne A good romanian igl
2022-07-02 13:59
cringe
2022-07-02 18:54
4 replies
rigon fan talking about cringe lmao
2022-07-02 19:02
3 replies
get a girl LOL
2022-07-02 19:35
2 replies
+1 All these simps
2022-07-02 19:39
1 reply
you can't discuss or ever compliment a girl for doing good otherwise you're a simp?
2022-07-02 19:46
L
2022-07-02 19:41
if ana joins a male team then she has a chance but now way she going anywhere with nigma galaxy. maybe if she joins a t3 team first like a trial and if it works out as time goes she can go to tier 2 and maybe tier 1.
2022-07-02 19:41
no, i believe she could pull it off
2022-07-02 19:54
she's hot
2022-07-02 19:56
1 reply
+1
2022-07-02 21:59
#133
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Brazil hugoooo
She is better than lot of male awpers, that's for sure
2022-07-02 20:00
Some of you people are so weird. The female scene has a long way to go before they're competitive at the top level but it's not for a lack of effort. The scene that supports them is what let's them down. Why are European teams so strong? Experience against other strong teams, orgs willing to support and facilitate effective practice and strategical development. Any woman has the potential of being better then a man, gender plays no role apart from our own perception of it. Ana? She's fucking sick, would love to see some of these players get better opportunities.
2022-07-02 20:08
The disrespect to tier 3-5 players I'm seeing here is so brutal. You can't be that stupid to say she could play in TIER 2, let alone in Tier 5 where some teams don't even get paid to play. She is literally 2.9k elo which is nothing these days. I've met 15 year old Russians that have even higher ELO than that, and obviously they would get smoked in even Tier 5 matches. I'd say the current level of 3k ELO is similar to what ordinary 2K ELO used to be 2-3 years ago. Mby even less than that, it's really inflated. She is obviously good but there is a huge difference when you are playing against mostly Lvl 5 - 2K ELO players. She got 2.2 rating against ATK and those players were literally Lvl 4-6s. Against BIG Equipa they won 2-1 and she got 1.1 rating. Guess what, they were Lvl 7s - 2k ELO. She is one of the best females for sure but these comparisons are so stupid. Put any Tier 5 player into these female matches and you will see 2.0 avg rating. Can't just compare ratings blindly like that with 0 context.
2022-07-02 20:32
4 replies
she is Female GOAT not one of the best
2022-07-02 21:51
3 replies
nt but zaaz is my queen for the foreseable future
2022-07-02 21:51
2 replies
she is 31 wtf
2022-07-02 21:52
1 reply
queens are old look at uk
2022-07-02 21:53
Complexity should buy her and laugh when her rating goes above junior's
2022-07-02 20:50
#152
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United States ilkym00th
I’m feeling she’s got a 1.09 rating in her
2022-07-02 20:50
#155
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Turkey tomriseag
leave my mother alone only turks can understand cya
2022-07-02 21:02
1 reply
annananaan koim
2022-07-02 21:53
#165
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Sweden multib
It's hard to say. Everyone can play good against opponents that are below your level. But ye let her play a couple of matches male t2 and let's see where it lands
2022-07-02 22:00
looks like she has good aim and all but female teams honestly are so behind on everything, T2 is hard enough for T1 teams. It would be cool to see if she has gotten a chance though, it's going to be hard to be honest she'd also have to deal with guys it's a total different atmosphere.
2022-07-02 22:06
ANa to Nexus lets gooo, they just kicked 2 players so there is space for her
2022-07-02 22:14
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