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REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41 
To be a complete player you need to be: -Good at awping -Good at rifling -Good pistols -Being able to read the game well -Also able to IGL The only complete players might be niko and simple. The're good at everything, niko has been an IGL and may have not been the best, but he still did the job done. s1mple has proven in FPL his mastermind and insane calls. We know he's capable, one day when he ages too much he will probably switch to IGL role, a young talent will take his main role. Zywoo is a a tough call, e is almost complete but he doesnt have the ability to IGL, his english is not good enough (although improving), he is a bit socially awkward and we simply dont have any evidence that he can IGL. So i'd say the only two complete players atm are s1mple and niko
2022-07-01 23:50
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#1
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Sweden Hasklon
device??
2022-07-01 23:51
12 replies
#3
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
tough call, but his pistol are kinda mediocre and u think he's a good igl?
2022-07-01 23:52
10 replies
#8
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Italy steven513
-1
2022-07-01 23:53
'his pistol are kinda mediocre', tell me you're new to cs:go without telling me you're new.
2022-07-01 23:57
7 replies
#32
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
not new, here since 2013
2022-07-01 23:58
6 replies
So you should know that device is a really good pistol player. You don't need to be Nik0 pistol level to be a good pistol player. Lower your standards cuz if device is mediocre pistol player, i wonder who u gonna put in that list lmao
2022-07-01 23:59
5 replies
#37
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
do u remember 3+ device pistol highlights?
2022-07-02 00:00
4 replies
Lmao Train Inferno Overpass If you want, even Nuke last year against ence (iem finals) You can look all of those on youtube And about the IGL thing, he was 2nd IGL for Astralis
2022-07-02 00:01
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#77
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Austria holzpyjama
People forget quite quickly how good someone was after a few months and device is easily one the most complete players tbh
2022-07-02 08:01
Lol, his Overpass ace is legendary
2022-07-02 11:00
1 reply
For real
2022-07-02 12:43
#36
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Sweden Hasklon
nah cmon he takes a break for a few months and ppl on hltv start disrespecting one of the goat candidates, he has 12th best pistol rating all time in big events and if you say s1mple can igl then device can too also you forgot f0rp too
2022-07-01 23:59
first clip coming to my mind youtube.com/watch?v=qTUT4g6xKT8
2022-07-02 12:40
karrigan is complete if we look at the history of his cs career, not just go
2022-07-01 23:51
22 replies
#4
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
-Good at awping -Good at rifling -Good pistols 3 factors missing
2022-07-01 23:52
19 replies
"if we look at the history of his career" he was the star awper in 1.6 and was very good at all those things, like how you said s1mple will get old and IGL that is what karrigan did.
2022-07-01 23:54
10 replies
#17
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
well im not talking about the past, we live now
2022-07-01 23:55
9 replies
#49
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United States Andrew2
Then s1mple not complete
2022-07-02 01:28
6 replies
what? he is the best version of s1mple rn? wtf
2022-07-02 01:34
5 replies
#52
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United States Andrew2
Has s1mple ever shown himself to be able to call in t1 cs (yet)? I arent think that
2022-07-02 01:41
4 replies
#57
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
yes, he making calls in official matches sometimes over boombl4
2022-07-02 01:51
3 replies
#58
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United States Andrew2
Source:
2022-07-02 01:53
2 replies
#59
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
watch the games
2022-07-02 01:53
1 reply
making midround calls = igl, xxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxax
2022-07-02 02:20
Just please stop embarrassing yourself. We all already know, you don't know anything about cs
2022-07-02 12:28
1 reply
#101
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
i know more than you by far
2022-07-02 12:46
he awped in the early days of astralis and he was a star in cs 1.6 his pistols aren't even that bad even nowadays
2022-07-01 23:54
6 replies
#18
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
i guess ppl didnt get im talking about now
2022-07-01 23:55
5 replies
>s1mple has proven in FPL his mastermind and insane calls. We know he's capable, one day when he ages too much he will probably switch to IGL role, a young talent will take his main role. calling in fpl seems to make you a genius and you clearly added that he will be an igl in the future
2022-07-01 23:56
4 replies
#27
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
you havent watched his streams i guess, even in the pro scene he makes many calls and read the game well
2022-07-01 23:57
3 replies
just shut up, 0/8
2022-07-01 23:57
2 replies
#34
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
cry about it
2022-07-01 23:58
1 reply
I like that you give terrific examples on the phrase "talking to a brick wall"
2022-07-02 10:57
5 factors missing there
2022-07-02 02:21
.92 rating is complete
2022-07-01 23:52
Everything is missing
2022-07-02 07:47
#6
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Sweden sn1pie
2022-07-01 23:52
8 replies
#9
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
oh please, everyone misses, he plays well with awp
2022-07-01 23:53
1 reply
Niko is more like a mid awp. Not great, but not that bad at all.
2022-07-03 13:28
lets go judge one of best players ever by 2 shots
2022-07-01 23:53
5 replies
#12
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Sweden sn1pie
it's a joke
2022-07-01 23:53
#20
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Italy steven513
Tbf he hasn/t really picked up the awp and when he does, he looks pretty mid with it. Last time he was really a viable secondary awper was on FaZe.
2022-07-01 23:55
1 reply
there are a lot of these clips, ALOT
2022-07-02 02:21
1 reply
find them and show me
2022-07-02 14:01
#7
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India Jester_Bard
s1mple, Zywoo, device, b1t, olof?, Cold??
2022-07-01 23:53
7 replies
zywoo cant call
2022-07-01 23:54
#14
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
mate, i already answered about zywoo in my tread, i left a comment about device, b1t not proven to be awper and IGL, olof bad nowadays, cold bad nowadays
2022-07-01 23:54
5 replies
sh1ro? He good at awp, pistols and he secondary calls or even IGL when he feelin if. Maybe not the best at rifle but his clutches show his big brain.
2022-07-01 23:57
4 replies
#31
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
hmmmm dunno about sh1ro tbh i really didnt watch too much gambit :(
2022-07-01 23:58
+1 actually, i didn’t think abt it until you said and it makes sense
2022-07-02 00:14
his rifle still a lot better than many tier 1 players
2022-07-02 02:22
Good shout but could still improve on almost all of these things so not rn
2022-07-02 02:27
sunpayus
2022-07-01 23:53
1 reply
#45
ropz | 
Belgium Jer0
+1
2022-07-02 00:10
igl thing is redundant imo. it's a very specific role, and if u "can igl" doesn't mean you are a good igl (was niko a good igl? was s1mple an igl at all?). imo it just doesn't matter rest are good points. all, s1mple, zywoo, niko, device are complete players. also naf i think
2022-07-01 23:55
1 reply
#22
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Italy steven513
+1
2022-07-01 23:56
simple zywoo shiro jame cadian...
2022-07-01 23:56
2 replies
homie said cadian and jame
2022-07-01 23:57
1 reply
Maybe not rifling but the rest
2022-07-01 23:59
i think electronic can go up there but idk about his awping
2022-07-01 23:57
you can't tell somebody can't igl because you don't know enough english... language has nothing to do with igl idiot
2022-07-02 00:02
11 replies
#41
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
yes it does?? if he goes on faze rn and he given the IGL role how he gonna igl??? In french????????????
2022-07-02 00:06
10 replies
#43
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China Tohsaka
Because s0mple can igl in English well
2022-07-02 00:07
7 replies
#44
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
yes he can
2022-07-02 00:08
For this guy, IGL on random fpl match = igl in english on competitive level with actual structure and strats and such. I've actually considered this a good thread, but well, he's really going against everyone in the thread when he's wrong about half of his arguments. But all good.
2022-07-02 00:14
5 replies
#48
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
s1mple is also often calling in NaVi, u dont know what u are talking about, he is second caller
2022-07-02 01:17
4 replies
So for you second caller counts. But on #3 u don't count device when he was 2nd IGL for Astralis and they won 4 majors. What a biased opinion lmao. I do know what i'm talking about, i'm just proving you that you're not consistent with your opinion. You ask for device highlights and say that he doesn't igl, i prove you wrong and now you bring the fact that s1mple is 2nd caller for navi, which was the same for devve. Your brain power to actually argue is on the level of a baby lmao
2022-07-02 07:26
3 replies
#92
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
learn to read before arguing
2022-07-02 11:51
2 replies
You should buddy.
2022-07-02 14:21
1 reply
#110
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
i know how to read, you dont
2022-07-02 15:49
so coldzera was a bad player in 2016 because he didn't speak english? It's the same fucking thing
2022-07-03 17:56
1 reply
#117
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
no? not a bad player, just not a complete one
2022-07-03 18:14
#40
mimi | 
Sweden eNvym
Shoxie.
2022-07-02 00:03
2 replies
#42
REZ | 
Trinidad and Tobago r41
in his prime yes!!! rn no :(
2022-07-02 00:06
was looking for that comment
2022-07-02 01:57
#51
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United States Andrew2
NBK?
2022-07-02 01:40
Define "good" and "able to igl" How I understand it would be something like tier 1 potential of good. There are many that could fit the criteria. Twistzz Dupreeh Art Es3tag Rez and Hampus Stavn Tabsen Blamef Jame and Qikert If you want to make the criteria harder, I don't think either of S1mple or niko would not fit. S1mple for igl, Niko for awp.
2022-07-02 01:47
That would be Olaf on his peak. He was the absolute 'complete' player.
2022-07-02 01:48
1 reply
#69
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Russia aquakilla
++11
2022-07-02 02:23
junior and Stewie2k
2022-07-02 01:49
Bruh FPL and T1 are not the same
2022-07-02 01:50
3 replies
Not even this, he was 2nd IGLing for Boombl4, and he was mostly calling when Boombl4 was out for COVID or shit (headtr1ck)
2022-07-02 02:17
2 replies
yes in Ukranian, how will he handle chaos situation in another language, everytime he calls in FPL and people don't listen or die he's start to be toxic
2022-07-02 13:17
1 reply
In Russian more litery. And FPL isn't even colse to profesional CS xd
2022-07-02 23:00
I can agree. I would add dev1ce, but he is less skilled, so mb dorsn't count (and in the past snax, Pasha and neo, but history) And for me ZywOo would be soon. He is 5 or 6 years younger than s1mple or NiKo. He is fucking insane in clutches and pressure moments. He is too unexperienced to express himself, but in good system he should pick it up quite easlie (pls Magisk IGL and zonic in full-controle mode) And honorable mantions: stavn (just too unexpierienced as star), blameF (didn't AWP a lot, but should be good 2nd; but he is unproven as this big-number player), and ropz (idk, isn't that conviencieng star that we wants him to be)
2022-07-02 02:14
4 replies
#78
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Austria holzpyjama
Device less skilled? In what way?
2022-07-02 08:07
3 replies
s1mple and NiKo are just better. dev1ce still way above average
2022-07-02 10:50
2 replies
S1mple yes. Nik0 no. Nik0 is a gamble. He can be a complete god for 3 months and then be mediocre for few months. Like happened the first half of 2022 until after the major where he's starting to carry again. Nice try
2022-07-02 14:25
+1 for the comment of worth3d You can compare everyone to s1mple, he’s just way above everyone, but you just have to agree that dev1ce is one of the best players IMO he’s in the top 3 of the best csgo players
2022-07-03 13:15
STEW ??????
2022-07-02 02:20
1 reply
#94
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United States SMOKEBREAK
Not before 10am
2022-07-02 12:22
complete player without utility usage kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2022-07-02 02:23
Also coldzera and gla1ve
2022-07-02 02:24
#72
AZR | 
Australia nsmai
Complete players: Snax Simple Niko Tabsen Zywoo Neo Karrigan F0rest Gtr Olof Cold Fallen Jks Device I’m not putting these players individually on the same level, but all have shown they can play any weapon and any role at the highest level.
2022-07-02 02:44
Considering all your aeguments: Tabsen Niko S1mple
2022-07-02 07:32
#75
Zeus | 
India ELEXR
straight up art, but his playstyle is different.
2022-07-02 07:43
#79
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Austria holzpyjama
Im kinda surprised that many people forget shox. He’s played every single role I think and was really good at it
2022-07-02 08:12
#80
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Argentina RHM321
it's gotta be s1mple - azr
2022-07-02 08:14
niko???lmao
2022-07-02 08:19
shox stewie coldzera art tabsen
2022-07-02 08:31
I would say tabseN.
2022-07-02 08:40
1 reply
Was gonna write the same thing
2022-07-02 10:58
Patsi
2022-07-02 10:23
Amanek :)
2022-07-02 10:58
Fuck no you don't need to be able to IGL to be a complete player, you maybe need to be able to bring up an idea or read here and there due to experience but igling is a different feat.
2022-07-02 11:01
#91
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Finland HARD4ENCE
ropz and stavn are kinda up there aswell. Both are also secondary callers and awpers in their respective teams afaik.
2022-07-02 11:02
#93
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United States SMOKEBREAK
Clearly talking about Olof
2022-07-02 12:22
A lot of players can fill 4 categories but none can truly fill all 5
2022-07-02 12:24
amanek
2022-07-02 12:31
sh1ro,blamef, stavn
2022-07-02 12:44
Tarik
2022-07-02 12:46
Karrigan tabsen
2022-07-02 13:20
If NiKo is complete with his igling skills then you can scratch that category cuz by that logic everyone can igl
2022-07-02 14:04
Tabsen is an easy call there, all round player and a great businessman. Stavn is young but he's there as an all round player, cadian mentioned at least a few times that Stavn has ideas for calling and for midrounds so even tho he's not an IGL in my eyes it's good to be able to call mid rounds when needed. Hobbit - he does not awp much but when he grabs it he's solid. Nafany talked about Hobbit being very involved in calling in Gambit as a secondary caller and even flat out calling entire rounds him self. Currently he's probably top 5 players who make least mistakes and his lurks are S+ tier. Shox is someone who is easy to forget, over so many years he did it all and even now he's one of the best mid round callers. His awp is sick, his sense is top tier, form drop by joining Liquid is not a way to judge him. Dupreeh is also very flexible, in Vitality's comms videos you can hear him calling stuff mid round so I'd say that's enough considering that all other requirements he has over the roof, insane rifler, good awp when playing secondary, sense, timing all was always solid with him. Amanek I do not think he needs introduction, I think his awp is not bad, just in old G2 his awp was more supportive so it's hard to judge for it.
2022-07-02 14:12
Stavn? Maybe not igl, but otherwise looks quite complete to me.
2022-07-03 13:21
tabseN Can Rifle Can AWP (even was the Main AWP in BIG one time) Can Pistol Can read the game well Can IGL (and quite decent at it too)
2022-07-03 13:34
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