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If Vitality didnt go international
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Czech Republic Starold 
Would they be the best team in the world rn? >they were already #2 in rankings before the roster change >The only better team was navi - navi now fell of because of politics and boombla's wife >They had the fcking goat Kyojin! Vitality where brain?
2022-07-06 12:46
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they were only second because they knew that changes were coming so no stress in games
2022-07-06 12:47
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+1 People just love to forget nuances
2022-07-06 13:09
+1 also zywoo was once again playing out of his mind, apex also lifegaming
2022-07-06 13:20
0/8
2022-07-06 12:47
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Czech Republic Starold
oh and >Zywoo didnt play like shit with france teammates
2022-07-06 12:49
No xD. There's a reason they only started being good at the end
2022-07-06 12:47
No because a lot of other teams got better Faze, G2, C9, Ence, Heroic
2022-07-06 12:48
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India gXser
Heroic didn't get better i aren't think so
2022-07-06 12:49
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Czech Republic Starold
I dont think G2 got better at all xD
2022-07-06 12:51
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just because they were good at stockhold major doesnt mean they were good. remember how shit they were before that for months.
2022-07-06 13:18
Nah They might be a little better but thats about it
2022-07-06 12:48
with kyojin and shox ? No. They were better tho because they were speaking french. So,zywoo was better , apex better igl and misuta was better aswell
2022-07-06 12:49
im 100% sure they wont get anywhere with their old roster , they become n2 cause they knew changes is coming & they put everything in their last run
2022-07-06 12:50
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Europe RBK_GOD
Yeah, they would've been good, top5 all year for sure and some random tournaments wins but still 100 times better than this Vitality
2022-07-06 12:50
all they needed was -kyojin +bodyy/amanek/hadji and now we're here losing 2-0 to the fucking spanish
2022-07-06 12:51
+day0s +woro2k
2022-07-06 12:52
society if vitality remain french i.imgur.com/SHTXT7Ih.jpg
2022-07-06 12:52
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United Kingdom JustLeo
Let's be honest, they were no. 2 for a very short time off the back of one lucky run, they were always going to drop back to 5-10 regardless of the changes, of course that does not change the fact that the changes have failed bigtime and they are now probably worse, now they are barely even a tier 1 team.
2022-07-06 12:52
-kyojin +rpk was the easiest move ever but what u gonna do? but even though they could have been way better than today they would never be the best team itw and we all know that late #2 peak was a fluke
2022-07-06 12:57
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!!! RpK RETIRED !!! Doesn't wanna play anymore and is happy with his car/garage business, why do people always go back to him?
2022-07-06 13:43
#18
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San Marino Loyuu
Major winners with amanek and hadji
2022-07-06 13:11
#19
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Singapore Jjonath0n
are the tier 2 french players so bad they rather go international?
2022-07-06 13:14
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France KryzzZie
No. It's just that Neo's vision is that he wants to make zywoo an international star and wants to expand vitality market. What he doesn't realize is that the next biggest esport organization in France called K Corp has a more loyal fanbase and is currently even more famous in France I would say, so if they come to cs and make a full French roster I'm sure vitality would fade into darkness.
2022-07-06 13:28
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Yes Tier 2 french is bad. No way they take Falcon or Heet players to aim #1 + the amount they asked was too high for players like Hadji. International was logical choice. Hope they go back to french lineup, at least to push new talents on the board.
2022-07-06 13:36
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France KryzzZie
I think Hadji would have been worth the price, they could have done a big marketing campaign around him. I don't remember exactly how much LDLC was asking but I don't think it was out of reach for vita pockets
2022-07-06 13:41
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Didn't Vitality get a $50mil budget from some sponsor that they made the international squad with? Could've easily made a French team with the now best French players + ZywOo.
2022-07-06 13:45
if you think the marketing of hadji is better than Danish Marketing there is a big problem. In game could have been better i agree with you, i think Zywoo is better with French Lineup (just opinion). The price was too much for Hadji, it was not worth at all (About millions if i remember well what they said on stream).
2022-07-06 13:56
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France KryzzZie
I don't think it's bigger obviously the hype was insane but I'm saying it wouldn't have been a big loss for them compared to how much hadji could have brought. Millions is indeed more expensive than I thought LDLC is fucking nuts
2022-07-06 14:50
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Yeah LDLC wanted big prize because it's vitality , that's what fucked the deal. Source : KRLStream
2022-07-06 17:59
No
2022-07-06 13:24
#23
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Even if they didn't go international, something had to change, that much was a given. I think ZywOo would've been more consistent than he is right now because of the comfortability in performing and playing in an all French team but otherwise, they still couldn't beat the top teams with that roster and they really tried for a long time.
2022-07-06 13:24
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Denmark rolade
stopped reading after goat Kyojin.
2022-07-06 13:42
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Czech Republic Starold
you read almost whole thread then!
2022-07-06 14:54
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Denmark rolade
ofcause. anything else would be rude.
2022-07-06 14:57
their only problem was kyojin and they should've let him develop further or replace him with one of heet's players or something but yeah, rich braindead ceo moment
2022-07-06 13:46
#33
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France Guilsz_
0/8 they would perform the same way they do today I think that -Kyojin +HadJi had to be the move even -shox +bodyyy
2022-07-06 14:52
If you expect more than top5 from Vitality you are delusional
2022-07-06 14:53
wet dreams vita would never be #1
2022-07-06 14:59
but can you shut up
2022-07-06 18:02
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