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is 14 to young to start grinding for pro
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Canada Leinad27ST 
im 14 and i want to be a csgo pro and for the first time this time i really have a great feeling and i really want to become a pro. iem cologne inspired me. so it is too young to start grinding. should i instead focus on content creation or smth. or be a skin nerd lmao. pls be honest
2022-07-19 21:59
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Other KittyVN
content creation with that age aint worth doing ^^
2022-07-19 22:00
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#33
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Hungary H0bbesCS
+1, i learned it by the painful way.
2022-07-19 22:13
#55
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Scotland Ludax
unless u are doing some informational videos with tts hehe
2022-07-19 22:26
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#61
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Other KittyVN
not gonna get a lot of money doing that :D
2022-07-19 22:35
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#70
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Scotland Ludax
hey man idk there are a lot of informational channels with millions of views per vid
2022-07-19 22:40
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#284
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Finland Khroni
Pretty sure most YT money comes from sponsorship now after the ads got nuked and then converted into YT's own personal money generator
2022-07-20 09:50
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#306
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Scotland Ludax
I think ad money is hella good on "family friendly" content, really just depends on the kind of vids you're making and the kind of advertisers they attract. Like these investor/finance channels get $10+ per thousand views sometimes cuz finance companies fight to have their ads on them
2022-07-20 11:20
ye thats tru people will not take kids seriously but what i ment was basic streaming until i was about 17 or 18 so people can start taking me serisously
2022-07-19 22:35
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#140
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Other KittyVN
Yeah like I said I really don't think you would be getting anything more than max. 5 viewers by doing that and it would just burn you out. Wait a few years more and if you then are still interested give it a shot then
2022-07-19 23:12
9 replies
content creation is my backup (excluding school), if the pro thing doesnt work out im not taking that serisouyl
2022-07-19 23:13
8 replies
bro try to go pro through fpl and smaller teams but upload ur highlights to youtube as well, as you go further in the pro ranks the more views you get no one would know about smooya if he didn't literally reach the cologne final with big
2022-07-19 23:27
7 replies
ye tru im trying to go pro through fpl. i feel like thats the only way now. and i have a very good editor friend that can do montages for me and such.
2022-07-19 23:28
6 replies
> go to FPL > befriend Niko > join G2 > profit
2022-07-19 23:57
1 reply
+1 the broky effect
2022-07-20 20:18
i can coach you, send dm
2022-07-20 01:24
Play cs for fun in your free time Finish your school, do some other hobbies as well, meet friends etc. Dont just play cs 24/7, it wont improve you that fast, it wont be fun and it most likely wont make you go pro anyways. Just enjoy the game when you feel like it and got time for it. And much later you will see if you could go pro or actually want to go pro. Playing professionally (unless for like the 10 biggest orgs) is not always gonna be superfun, you likely wont earn near enough to make a living for quite some time. Or forever
2022-07-20 09:13
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having a part time job would help as well, you go do your job and feel like shit, then you come back to cs and make your mood go up
2022-07-20 18:52
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Well idk ive made both experience. Cs being fun and refreshing after working/ studying (usually stidying or writing) or it just sucked sometimes cz i was too tired or sth like that. On the other hand during holidays I dont always enjoy it either, propably cz my lazy ass didnt do much all day so cs was nothing to look forward to after a long day
2022-07-20 19:59
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Poland shima1
exacly you know shit about life by the age of 14 - you can only shake ass or whatever
2022-07-19 23:04
3 replies
lmao tru, i only said that if pro didnt work. i would have done basic streams but im not really to passionate about it, but if it came i would not complain
2022-07-19 23:05
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Just dont get discouraged, ive been on the same position as you though i started at 16 and also motivated to be the best of the best. From my experience of all my career i know i have good potential with proof of me having godlike performance occasionally, but that is the problem im not consistent enough so that i can be reliable and sometimes getting rekt by the same opponent i once dominated i feel like shit when that happen and i feel lost trying to figure out the answer no matter how hard i try, so i decided to get away from cs or any fps game and after almost a year and a half out of cs i feel like i was being too impatient all the time and blinded by the sheer spite of trying to be the best and trying prove that i can become one. I hope you understand what i mean and good luck!
2022-07-20 05:34
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In other words, just have fun every round, no matter what happens, everything else isbless important. After that remain a positive mindset and try to find mistakes to learn from:)
2022-07-20 09:17
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Chad kdorek
focus on your homework
2022-07-19 22:00
25 replies
#25
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Denmark AleksiCT
+1
2022-07-19 22:10
I ended education I even got 100% from national math exam and it doesn't give you any advantages in life So don't focus on school
2022-07-20 09:30
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#281
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Nigeria YengSheng
depends on what u want to achieve if u want to study medicine u need good grades but if u want to study something like IT, it is easier to be accepted with worse grades
2022-07-20 09:33
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Studing IT at least in PL makes no sense and that's my dream job XD
2022-07-20 10:11
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#290
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Nigeria YengSheng
can u study in a neighboring country? :D
2022-07-20 10:18
6 replies
I mean developers from USA tell too that studing at uni is waste of time and I'm self learning now
2022-07-20 10:48
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#299
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Germany webaxebg
Definitely not a waste of time. I mean if u want to land a developer job, u don't need it most likely, but if you want to take your career further, the theory you learn at uni will get you further than the other code monkeys
2022-07-20 10:54
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#304
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Nigeria YengSheng
+1
2022-07-20 11:07
The theory at uni is more about computer science the only advantage from uni are familiarities which can give u job
2022-07-20 20:00
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Advantage of uni = degree = good money
2022-07-20 21:46
A lot of options to work in IT in like Lithuania, Estonia and Sweden. In Estonia you get an internship pretty much automatically at the end of your first year in uni.
2022-07-20 12:33
How does that make no sense? If you want career in IT you need university degree unless you have thousands of commits on prestigious github projects.
2022-07-20 11:55
13 replies
+1 ppl are delusional and expect google to hire them since they are "self made" programmers with like 10 github projects all of which being copy pastes from youtube guides lol but i mean if one has contacts its possible to get a shitty job doing some slave work in like test maybe, but people without degrees are the first ones who get fired if economy goes to shit, 90% of them just dont end up being key developers
2022-07-20 13:31
6 replies
Comarch is the biggest IT company full of slaves working for minimum wage and tons of the employees have degree
2022-07-20 19:58
5 replies
well, there you go, gl then finding a job without a degree if not even a slave company that is the largest it company in poland hires them
2022-07-20 20:10
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U don't understand tons of employees have degree and tons don't And I looked tons of job offers and only few requires degree which can be bought in Poland for 10000 PLN I'm not trying to find IT job cause I don't have enough experience in open source projects
2022-07-20 20:10
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maybe its different in poland, in states/sweden/rest of western world just getting the degree makes it 100x easier to land your first job im in my 4th year of compsci now and i dont regret it the slightest xd but to each his own
2022-07-20 20:12
2 replies
Seriously? I didn't know there's such difference between job offers in Poland and Sweden In PL you learn like 4 programming languages per semestr without any frameworks and they even don't learn git XD
2022-07-20 20:15
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different in sweden then, we learn git first month also we dont learn programming languages, we learn how to program, also extensive maths/physics courses to make us attractive in the work market
2022-07-20 20:16
I know self made developer who doesn't have any degree and make 20k gbp per month. You are delusional one cause the most important is experience taking part in eriting open source projects >>>>>>> own projects >>>>>>>> degree
2022-07-20 19:56
5 replies
you know one i know several developers with degrees that make more than that you know doing uni work doesnt exclude you from filling out your portfolio?xd
2022-07-20 20:04
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But tons of people don't fill out their portfolio cause they think that degree is guarance of job and I mainly talk about them Those delusional uni lovers who think that experience is not important but just degree
2022-07-20 20:13
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you have 99% guaranteed job from degree from the masters thesis tho
2022-07-20 20:14
You are delusional if you think you can "just get experience" being self-thought. Its always people that never have seen an university from inside that assume its "not necessary" and you can "just learn it yourself". The difficulty of (serious) university degrees in STEM are nothing but easy and while you can become a developer yourself , you will never be able to fulfill higher positions because it requires knowledge that you just can not teach yourself, it is only available through university. If you are really interested in IT and improving your skill, why would they not choose university? I get that some people don't want to suffer the stress but please don't talk down how hard STEM degrees are before you actually tried it yourself.
2022-07-21 00:13
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But STEM is not a thing in PL and no one wants to leave Poland just for degree
2022-07-21 08:58
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Ukraine I_say_Ok
too late actually
2022-07-19 22:00
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#34
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Czech Republic Devidee
how ? if he's already like 2.5-3k elo face it why not
2022-07-19 22:13
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#49
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Ukraine I_say_Ok
m0nesy was in fpl at 13 and he is just an average tier2 player
2022-07-19 22:21
8 replies
Yeah but the kid is like 17 making hundreds of thousands playing for one of the biggest esport orgs out there
2022-07-19 22:26
#57
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Czech Republic Devidee
he's the only 13 in FPL ever and he in top 10 team
2022-07-19 22:27
1 reply
wasnt frozen around there at one point
2022-07-20 01:52
#66
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Russia Soawii
average tier 2 player with 1.11 rating vs top 20 teams
2022-07-19 22:38
Hahahah my man BR b8s are always good
2022-07-19 22:53
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#189
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Ukraine I_say_Ok
hehe
2022-07-20 00:24
Stop being delusional. He is slightly above average in tier 1
2022-07-19 23:52
m0nesy = every pro xd
2022-07-20 00:50
#230
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Czech Republic imotfhere
correct me but i think roej started playing csgo very actively in like 19-20 years and few pro out there too so i don't think its late
2022-07-20 02:41
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#232
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United States Zedsamcat
Is steam is 15yr old however his hours are private so idk if he played 1.6 or not
2022-07-20 02:44
2 replies
steam was published the same time as cs 1.6 in 2003 summer.
2022-07-20 10:21
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#370
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United States Zedsamcat
Its possible but we have no idea if/how seriously he played it
2022-07-20 14:52
#233
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Ukraine I_say_Ok
oh yes roej the bestest star player
2022-07-20 02:46
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#234
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Czech Republic imotfhere
why are you so mad?
2022-07-20 02:51
1 reply
#235
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Ukraine I_say_Ok
i arent wtf
2022-07-20 02:54
Roej is one of the biggest pieces of evidence that you can get a career started pretty late in age, the guy really is a 28 year old talent
2022-07-20 06:29
2 replies
yes but players like Roej and others who start pretty late r exception. 99% of playerbase cant repeat it
2022-07-20 12:47
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Sure they can, its just about motivation. Roej probably didn't care all too much about CS when he was younger - at least not enough to try to go pro. But somewhere around 2017 in his mid-20s I guess he truly grew a love for the game. Although to your point usually people start getting motivated to go pro in their teens, although I don't think most people "can't repeat it", they just need to care enough to try.
2022-07-20 14:11
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Turkey sonbafrali
too late
2022-07-19 22:00
focus on education
2022-07-19 22:01
27 replies
i dont want to persue academic things i want to persue video gmes
2022-07-19 22:36
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France KryzzZie
That's what every 14yo say until shit hit the fans. Focus on education please bro you will regret it.
2022-07-19 22:52
14 replies
im still gonna focus in school but cs is my no1 priority
2022-07-19 22:58
12 replies
no, education > cs
2022-07-19 23:05
10 replies
education is important but cs is what i wanna persue
2022-07-19 23:06
9 replies
Tens of thousands of players want to pursue CS as a career every year. Probably 400 people in the entire world at a given time actually make a living off of CS. Its the same as a kid wanting to be a YouTuber—its just way too unlikely, and if you focus only on that you’ll end up not having the right skills to make it anyways.
2022-07-19 23:14
...and then people wonder why pro players dont know the boiling point of water lol
2022-07-20 00:09
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Axaxaxaxaxaxaxxa
2022-07-20 08:36
lmao
2022-07-21 01:26
just go for cs, its easy to reach pro level if you grind hard at your age
2022-07-20 10:24
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thats kinda optimistic or sarcastic thing to say bro =) if we gonna find 100 players of 14yo age and give them all opportunities to grind hard and play, most of them still not gonna go pro. without a real talent and real passion and love to grind 10 hours a day there is 0 chance to make it. and most of these 14yo players who have a wet dream bout going pro, gonna have a burnout after a year of this grinding. IMO obv but i guess it wasnt hard for u backdays ;)
2022-07-20 13:18
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yeah i was being sarcastic, i'm not sure if the op is serious
2022-07-20 15:31
Imagine if that fails, what then? I bet 98/100 people would love to be pro in a videogame or a content creator but they know that statistically it's almost impossible.
2022-07-20 12:37
The odds are not in your favour. Bare minimum finish high school AND FOR FUCKS SAKE HAVE A BACKUP PLAN. It might not take off, have an idea for when you're 30 even if it does
2022-07-20 12:54
Yo man, I can talk from first hand experience. Look at it this way: Getting good school education is actually helping you become pro player. You will only get trouble from slacking which in turn will affect your gaming. Parents will complain that you shouldn't play, school will cause further trouble and you yourself will always have this lingering fear of: "What if I don't make it? I have no skills." You will circumvent all these issues by focusing on school to the point where everyone is content so in the free time you can game away without any issues. More time spent in csgo doesn't automatically make you better, so save maybe a third of your playtime on your real life which will make the remaining two thirds actually count twice.
2022-07-21 00:21
this.
2022-07-20 13:19
#197
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Korea Piano
just like every other 14 year old
2022-07-20 01:07
if you want to go pro you'll have to work very hard, and not just in cs. the worst thing you can do is ignore school to focus on it, bc education will be important in your life no matter how far you get in your cs career. grind your schoolwork so that you get As and then dedicate your free time to playing cs. I grew up in NA, I know how much time there is as a kid. Lastly, take time to enjoy your childhood and go out with your friends. if you have no social skills you wont be able to find a team anyway. if you read all of that, good luck! u will succeed if you truly believe in yourself.
2022-07-20 04:23
youll never go pro if you play csgo with the mindset that you must go pro and that its compulsory. if you play in ur spare time for fun on the other hand, and dont do dumb shit like skip classes and focus on school, you have a chance if ur good enough. trust everyone here its moronic to think videogames are more important than school
2022-07-20 08:59
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If he is smart enough to do it he could skip a class here and there. Being there evry lesson isnt necessary for everyone, i wouldnt advise anyone to skip though
2022-07-20 09:06
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if hes smart enough like you said, otherwise you skip a class once or twice, ur temptation to skip class gets stronger as ur addiction gets uncontrollable gets then just like that ur addicted to csgo. i am talking from experience
2022-07-20 11:31
ignore what everyone of this oldschool retards is trying to tell u ill give u advice that a guy gave me once and im sticking to it for the rest of my life made my drop uni and stuff "picture yourself in 10 years with university finished regular job etc etc and picture yourself in your case a csgo pro and ask yourself what would u regret not going for when u were younger"I have a lot of friends who were really good at football im 100% sure they would ATLEAST make into our own country tier 1 league but their parents forced them to focus on university and obviously u cant go 100% if u have 2 things at a time......my point is every retard can finish school even if u are 60 year old but not everyone actually achieves their dreams,hope this helps!
2022-07-20 09:20
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yup ignore us retards and listen to you instead and drop school to play videogaem
2022-07-20 11:39
2 replies
GL being a slave to society for the rest of your life!
2022-07-20 12:51
1 reply
what choice is there? I dont like it either, its a trash system doesnt mean I can easily just become famous csgo pro player and earn whatever I like like you make it seem lmao do you work? do you go to work every day to earn money to feed yourself? you are just as slave-like as everyone else
2022-07-20 13:03
Yeah, surely its gonna be great if a 14 yo plays 14h hours of cs a day. In many schools you have more than enough time to get some basic education AND play cs in your freetime. Just work efficient and pay attention in school and youll be fine
2022-07-20 14:03
+1
2022-07-19 22:36
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United States zovint
I believe this is a bait. If it is not, focus on your homework whether you like it or not.
2022-07-19 22:04
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#23
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China Zhusha
If you are somewhat smart you don't have to choose you can do both. Stop messing around in class and pay proper attention there. Does homework in NA really take a lot of time? You can do it and still grind cs, just your social life will suffer
2022-07-19 22:09
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Other KittyVN
+1
2022-07-19 22:10
#29
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United States zovint
I agree. It was inconsiderate of me to only say to focus on homework. He should be able to maintain both school and CS. Does homework in NA really take a lot of time? Usually not. Depends on the teacher and student.
2022-07-19 22:11
I didn't do a single piece of homework in the past 3 months and got the best test scores combined in my year group what you blabbing about
2022-07-19 22:10
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#35
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United States zovint
Well, there are factors to take into account here. Do you already know the material? Do you have great problem solving and critical thinking skills? Good for you. But, relying on IQ won't get you very far. The phrase "focus on your homework" doesn't only relate to homework but academics as a whole.
2022-07-19 22:14
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I usually learnt new material I have insanely good critical thinking and problem solving abilities I'm relying on my intelligence I was born in but I will start to convert to studying more now as I'm starting my GCSEs (end of school exams in UK) and if I do this process well, I should be very good on my way to be studying during college, and later, university and I guess I took the phrase too much at face value
2022-07-19 22:47
2 replies
idk how it will turn out for you but i had the same mindset in school and got through high school with no effort and never studied. But when i got to college this bad habit of mine caught up to me and i had a hard freshman year as i had not developed proper study habits and didn't really know how to. So as some advice from someone who has been there study now even if you don't need to as the skills your develop and learn what really works with you will help later when it matters.
2022-07-19 23:11
1 reply
+1111111 very smart take
2022-07-21 09:03
#203
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Korea Piano
homework counts for your grade in some schools
2022-07-20 01:14
1 reply
it don't for mine
2022-07-20 09:47
#39
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Fiji Azusa
High school is a joke if you pay attention
2022-07-19 22:17
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#41
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United States zovint
Yes, but here in NA, many kids fail school or get bad grades.
2022-07-19 22:18
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#46
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Fiji Azusa
That’s really hard to do unless you literally don’t do anything at all or you’re sub 70 iq
2022-07-19 22:19
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#50
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United States zovint
Well at my school, many people don't do anything at all. I go to a minority-majority school and many people fail classes. Additionally, people blindly enroll into AP or IB classes (Higher-level classes) through either peer pressure or because their friends are in there and can't handle the work ethic it requires. Unfortunately, there's a cheating epidemic in NA when you allow students to use digital devices on tests, it's absurd.
2022-07-19 22:22
#7
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China Zhusha
Depends on how good you are already
2022-07-19 22:02
17 replies
im not that good thats why im asking if i was in faceit 8-10 then no question but im only level 4 so i gotta grind a fuck ton
2022-07-19 22:38
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#131
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Poland bot_taz
u won't make it. Focus on school. sadly it's not just grind. u can't make yourself good, you need outside help for sure and event if u get that there is still a part needed that is just talent for the game. lvl4 is nothing, no place to consider going pro, if u were playing for fun and like lvl7-8 then maybe, but not this.
2022-07-19 23:06
15 replies
i have thought about outside help. what do u mean by that?
2022-07-19 23:07
3 replies
2022-07-19 23:21
#426
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Poland bot_taz
sorry for late response, some kind of esports camp, where u are coached by a an ex-pro or an active coach, that would be something. but that u do after u are at least lvl7-8 on faceit. If u can with little effort and some yt tutorials prac while maintaining to study get to that level7-8, then there is a chance u can become pro at CS. natural talent is a thing we cant overcome.
2022-07-21 23:13
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alright ill look into seeing if there are any esports related camps and stuff. idk tho, from what ive seen there is nothing in the toronto area
2022-07-21 23:45
roej became a pro at 23, saying it's too late to start grinding at 14 is ridiculous. He has more than enough time to become a pro. Csgo is not soccer or tennis where you have to start training as soon as you pop out the womb
2022-07-19 23:21
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#179
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Czech Republic Devidee
this, look at saffee
2022-07-19 23:59
3 replies
or Jackz
2022-07-20 00:10
2 replies
#204
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Korea Piano
saffee and jackz are bots
2022-07-20 01:15
1 reply
Saffee has been doing fine?
2022-07-20 05:40
roej and saffee and others who start late r exceptions. with a lot of talent and passion for grind. plus they didnt start late, they played cs before going pro a lot too. thinking that if roej make it then anyone can is just stupid. 99,9% of playerbase not gonna repeat roej and saffee way
2022-07-20 12:59
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idk what's up with broke minded people putting others peoples dreams to shit? obviously you wont achieve anything if you keep an attitude like that the kid is 14, he can easily become a pro by the age of 18-20 if he tries hard enough
2022-07-20 21:35
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trust me my words r not gonna kill anyone's dream and no one after my words gonna act like "oh okay i quit csgo now and sell my pc" when i was 15 and some people older told me that there is no chance for me to go pro, my reaction was like "lol nt old bot" and start next game. so chill, people r not listening to advices, they think they know everything and understand everything better than some random person
2022-07-20 22:06
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yeah i guess i know what you mean there are people who can practice for 10 years and still be shit, no matter how many hours they put in but no one will really know if they don't try, but by the time they are done doing it and if they fail that's just a whole bunch of time wasted so ya u right
2022-07-20 22:18
#419
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Poland bot_taz
but roej had some kind of level of pro CS already and this dude wants to start going pro with faceit lvl4? seriosuly? are u dum dum? grinding is not everything.
2022-07-21 16:28
1 reply
he's literally a kid
2022-07-21 18:20
knowing na region is dead you can easily get into fpl and make money there
2022-07-19 22:03
1 reply
+1
2022-07-19 22:03
Just play the game for fun and to get better, but focus on other things too. It also depends on the level you are currently at , if you are not on a high level currently don't bother just play the game for fun
2022-07-19 22:03
too late probably
2022-07-19 22:03
its too late
2022-07-19 22:04
Too old
2022-07-19 22:04
#14
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India mirapakay
aleksib became pro in just 2500 hrs. start grinding and be a pro by 16
2022-07-19 22:04
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#15
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United States zovint
Aleksib is no longer pro. Who do you think will take him? Nobody.
2022-07-19 22:04
2 replies
#28
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Denmark AleksiCT
Lol
2022-07-19 22:11
#110
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India mirapakay
havu aleksib incoming
2022-07-19 22:53
#20
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
What the fuck bro i have 7k hours why am i not a pro
2022-07-19 22:06
3 replies
if ur 7k hours already and lv 4 faceit you wont ever be pro sorry
2022-07-19 22:51
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#178
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
I dont want to be and for the record im not level 4 faceit im level 1 😎
2022-07-19 23:59
1 reply
you dropped this king 👑
2022-07-20 03:28
#16
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Sweden Whosh
It's your own decision. Becoming a csgo pro is extremely tough and will take you a lot of grinding to accomplish. If you know what you're in for and you still really want to do it then go ahead. You are the start of your OWN future so don't let anyone else block you from reaching your dreams. It is not too late to become pro but it just takes a lot of time. But remember that it is a great risk trying to become pro and you will have to sacrifice things to reach your goal. Good luck!
2022-07-19 22:05
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he is asking on forum if he should go pro instead of grinding 24/7. there is 0 chance for him
2022-07-20 13:01
#17
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Germany at0myq
It's the perfect age to start grinding hard
2022-07-19 22:05
1 reply
yep i figures 14-16 is the age where u really need to buckel down
2022-07-19 22:38
Some of the best pros NA has had started out young, roughly around 14. I wouldn't neglect school for CS, especially in NA, but 14 isn't too young to grind to become a top player. He'll, it's easier to start early than to start late.
2022-07-19 22:05
focusing on homework is bs you should find what you like doing in life(esports alone doesnt count)
2022-07-19 22:06
4 replies
#21
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United States zovint
Maybe get a high school diploma first but you should still be able to grind CS at the same time.
2022-07-19 22:08
3 replies
im going into 10th grade so im not not focusing on school and obviously i want to graduate cuz i am smart enough to realize that even if i do become pro, i still need to have a safe backup. but i want cs to be my no1 priority
2022-07-19 22:39
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#80
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United States zovint
Yes. I believe you can still maintain really good grades and grind CS. I personally intentionally keep my grades at low A’s so i can focus on extracurricular activities.
2022-07-19 22:43
1 reply
ye i mean my parents are not strict (thankfully), so i can get mid b's and they will be happy. they just want me to get good enough grades so that i will be gud for the future
2022-07-19 22:50
I was faceit level 10 at the age of 15. Now I’m 18 and there’s still no space for me in pro cs. Maybe I’m just not built for it, but even if u grind harder than anyone else there’s no guarantee u go pro so focus on school and make sure u don’t put all ur eggs in one basket.
2022-07-19 22:09
1 reply
There's lots of great players that will never go pro simply because they are unlucky with teams. It's hard to find a full team of 5 commited players that will last a long time and switching from one team to another is rarely working. Pros become pros at the same time as their teams. Grinding pugs means nothing.
2022-07-20 11:44
Leinad27ST is the next TenZ
2022-07-19 22:11
1 reply
nah bro i aint gonna choke on the big stage
2022-07-19 22:51
I arent think that
2022-07-19 22:12
#31
jks | 
Canada harxDy
start it up before you end up regretting more gl on ya journey mens))
2022-07-19 22:12
1 reply
thx mens
2022-07-19 22:51
considering many ppl became pro at 16, 14 doesnt sound too young at all. Maybe there are some esports camps in your country by big orgs, like that navi youth in ukraine, thats how b1t became pro at least
2022-07-19 22:12
2 replies
the funny part is i wanna move to ukraine when i graduate high school for navi camp to give it a shot and plus i have grandparents and aunts living there. so im not entirly left in hte mud
2022-07-19 22:41
1 reply
it would be much more productive at 14 than when you finish high school. But they speak russian or ukrainian, do you know it?
2022-07-20 07:21
grind valorant m8 has better future
2022-07-19 22:14
1 reply
i have been debating whether going into a brand new esport and starting off fresh, but i love cs more, even if im pissed at it i come to it, and i dont to that to any other game except goat simulator obviously
2022-07-19 22:42
#37
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Hungary H0bbesCS
def not too young, just look at the age of the upcoming cs pros, they all have been playing since 5-6 years. Just pay enough attention to school and yourself and you'll be fine imo. Good luck.
2022-07-19 22:16
If you already know how to play and is good, no You are in time
2022-07-19 22:16
#40
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Fiji Azusa
I wish I had my own pc to grind cs at 14
2022-07-19 22:17
1 reply
i have to thank my brother for everything. he bought a wicked pc and he is the one that introduced me to gaming so i am lucky
2022-07-19 22:42
#42
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I did both CS and schoolwork but I started playing CS at the age of 9, I didn't really care about going professional at that time...
2022-07-19 22:18
#43
i am | 
Yugoslavia bleaq
14 is not too young for anything
2022-07-19 22:18
1 reply
yes but for anykind of sport it kinda is.
2022-07-19 22:43
#44
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Sweden Lackstrom
consistent grind and practice at any age below 24 or so unless your Like Saffe i think he started very late
2022-07-19 22:18
4 replies
ye i thought he was 19, nah m8 is 27 or smth
2022-07-19 22:43
#173
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Brazil hugoooo
Bitch, pls saffee was a good player in Brazil since 1.6 days, check sixty9 lineup: liquipedia.net/counterstrike/World_Cyber.. HLTV had an article made him look like a player that came out of nowhere, but he was grinding since before CSGO to achieve a position on the best BR team like he has now.
2022-07-19 23:49
Roej was 23 or 24 when he got his first team and officially went "pro"
2022-07-19 23:51
1 reply
i dont remember exactly and can be wrong, but roej was still playin cs since 1.6 and was semipro at it, i can be wrong. and he played csgo for many years before he climbs to tier1
2022-07-20 13:04
Most these guys got it right, prioritize getting your obligations done first as to not detract from schooling, and the last thing you want to do is detract from your family's willingness to let you chase your dream, so do your chores properly as well, then after that get to your grinding. Dont bother with content creation, CS is an already oversaturated market and with limited facets to generate content from.
2022-07-19 22:19
4 replies
all americans in this thread spitting the same school bs The system is literally playing all of you. Money is bullshit, and school is the last place to look for it. It just puts you in debt, most of the time you will end up hating the career you chose anyway thus locking yourself in a life where you hate what you do for most of the time. But i guess without conditioning people like that the society would not be able to function. There would be no doctors/social workers/architects/engineers etc so i guess this dull system of brainwashing people into shit jobs is necessary.
2022-07-19 23:29
3 replies
+1
2022-07-20 01:29
Lol go back to Reddit
2022-07-20 14:05
1 reply
hit a nerve there i guess truth hurts
2022-07-20 21:37
it's the right age to do so but find a balance between cs, school and real life activities/interactions don't neglect any of the other 2 and you're fine, gl and also work real hard and make yourself a schedule/routine to avoid stalling cause that shit will cost you some time you don't wanna waste
2022-07-19 22:19
You are from NA.
2022-07-19 22:19
2 replies
lmao ur right im not persuing anymore no geng not going pro
2022-07-19 22:44
1 reply
You will become the next junior and everyone will bully you.
2022-07-19 22:45
There is no perfect age. It depends on your current ability and growth potential
2022-07-19 22:23
#52
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World waltsuu
be IGL so you can put yourself to best positions, control your team and playstyle if you move up, you still control the team. if your best fragger gets poached, you still control the team. only reason to quit IGLing is if you get paid job in non-IGL position. good luck
2022-07-19 22:25
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the thing is, i want to be a flex player, kinda like naf. I want to awp to rifle and to kinda do most things. i feel like i would be a decent igl but i dont want to be one. cuz like everyplayer strives for i want to make plays and be very good at mechanics over util. (not saying aiming is more important thatn util)
2022-07-19 22:45
You can try it but as a side-hustle or sth. No matter what, it's better to have both Option A and Option B, than to risk it all and watch things not turn out as you expected them to. Finish highschool and check to see if there is a certain profession that interests you. At the same time, put in some hours playing CS, but base it on a schedule. Example: 3 hours total time of CS practice per day and do that 3-4 times per week. It's not enough time to be great at CS, but remember that out of all the players out there grinding ESEA Open, Intermediate, Main, Advanced and Premier, a total of 3-4 teams take the spotlight. That is equivalent to top 1% of all the active CS players. Like i said, try it after you have secured an Option B for yourself and after you finish school. After that, you can start the REAL grind. Btw, try to reach FaceIt lvl 10 before you finish school, as your first target. It's not really hard if you put a few hours into understanding some basic protocols and how to prioritize some things during some situations. (Demo review will help you at that.) Things with find their way on their own. Just focus on having an option B available. Also, if it doesn't work out immediately don't give up. Just be consistent and clear on what you want to achieve. Good luck.
2022-07-19 22:26
Focus on the school you can still get plenty of hours on Cs by doing your homework during school, and taking a study hall period. You can do both I got plenty of hours in video games and was able to do well in school too. But if it is your dream you should always go for it wish I did. I hate college rn lol.
2022-07-19 22:25
1 reply
aight thx
2022-07-19 22:45
If you don't have 8000 hours yet just aren't do it
2022-07-19 22:29
arT started playing in 2017, saffee as well, so it's more about talent than effort :/
2022-07-19 22:30
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#69
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Brazil oneS2
art didnt start in 2017
2022-07-19 22:40
2 replies
He didn't? I've seen it somewhere, but i could be wrong
2022-07-19 22:41
1 reply
#77
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Brazil oneS2
in jan 2017 he was playing "professionaly" in IDM
2022-07-19 22:42
im sure if u dont know by 14 u have talent or the thing to go pro for this game, u shouldn't even bother. just my take.
2022-07-19 22:30
you've a better chance at the winning lottery then going pro playing in NA. whos top canadian pro players who made it? semphis,steel,twistszz and thats it? its such a long shot
2022-07-19 22:43
2 replies
if twistzz and naf can become gland slammers then i can do it too. its just a matter of witt and determination
2022-07-19 22:46
1 reply
well you can try just be witty about it and dont put all the eggs into one basket. every kid wants to go pro etc,but how many of them actually make there? chances are low,but nobody is saying dont dream big maybe you'll be the lucky one to get through. dont abaddon the real life stuff which actually matter though
2022-07-19 22:52
#74
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Brazil oneS2
you should focus on school, 4h of cs per day in 3 years is more then enough. you are NA last hope
2022-07-19 22:42
#76
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Sweden Mansson
Do it, if you grind for 6 hours a day even, and you keep on doing that and avoid joining teams that will fuck you up, then you should be able to go pro. I'd say it's even possible to do it when you are 18. If you have the basics down, and a lot of time to grind
2022-07-19 22:42
7 replies
about teams fucking you over. even if i get a good contract job i want to start small. idk why, but getting a big org immediatly sounds scary and like niko, i want to start small and then work my way up. yes players like ropz have done it successfully but i want to go up tier by tier
2022-07-19 22:48
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#106
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Sweden Mansson
I mean like you shouldn't join a team that can't help you get better in any way. You should never be the best player in a team if you truly want to get better.
2022-07-19 22:52
2 replies
ig but it seems like a good way to build expierience. and plus, let's say im the best player in tier 2 na (which is pretty tier 1 lmao). then some lower level european can look at me (movistar as a random example.) then i get expierience in tier 2 eu which is so much more than tier 1 na. so then i get expierience and then t1 teams scout me out. u see where im going with this?
2022-07-19 22:54
1 reply
#181
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Sweden Mansson
Obv not talking about t2-t1 teams. Talking about teams that avg like 2.5k elo or sum shit
2022-07-20 00:07
if you grind for 6 hours a day even u need to grind more than that. 6 hours is a rookie numbers
2022-07-20 13:06
2 replies
#346
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Sweden Mansson
Talking about a 14 year old, Ik that you need to put in more hours than that. Minimum should be at least 8. But if you grind 6 hours a day as a 14 year old, you will still see good results
2022-07-20 13:28
1 reply
good results yes ofcourse. anyone gonna have progress playing 6 hours a day. but to go pro u have to give way more effort
2022-07-20 13:33
Make sure you finish school but find a balance where you can put lots of time into the game if its truly what you want to strive for. If you dont at least try youll look back disappointed.
2022-07-19 22:44
not too young at all
2022-07-19 22:44
#88
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United States bennjayx6
start grinding in your free time when you are young, time will slip away as you get older
2022-07-19 22:45
But even if you succeed, will CS still exist in like 3-4/5 years?
2022-07-19 22:47
bro pls just focus on your homeworks and stuff. focus on your academic success rather than a video game. Most ppl who aspire to be pro fail, the chances of not making it are extremely high. So, only attempt it if your parents are financially stable and that you can risk trifling academic success and ur school duties.
2022-07-19 22:48
5 replies
if i dont go for it i fail either way. so i wanna fail at something that i tried to suceed in
2022-07-19 22:48
4 replies
given your age, i can definitely understand that you are being idealistic over the prospect of you going pro, but, as i said before, the chances are REALLY slim. If your life standards are comfortable and your parents have really stable jobs and they wouldn't mind you following your aspirations, then go for it but you still need to remember that the rewards of focusing on academic success outweighs that of trying to go pro. At the end of the day it is your life but most ppl here are telling you the same stuff, most ppl are older than you and they probably know more than you do about life.
2022-07-19 22:56
3 replies
luckily ur second paragraph is right. my parents really want me to persue what i want and i really don't think they will mind me taking a shot at this
2022-07-19 22:57
2 replies
Having supportive parents is really good, if their financial status is also stable then all power to you my dude :) On the off chance you actually make it to pro scene, i am pretty sure you will be ecstatic over your decision, if not you will at least be able to say ''i tried'', and that is something in and of itself.
2022-07-19 23:00
1 reply
excatly thx
2022-07-19 23:01
if u re financially ok go for it, just cautious on school and keep in mind social life is important too don't stay too much at csgo
2022-07-19 22:48
It is good age to start not too young or late
2022-07-19 22:48
don't give up on a dream even if people tell you to. Just remember that it's not always about how much your grind - life fucks everyone, so don't forget about homework and shit too. It's not too early and not too late, you can either be a new m0nesy (star player in a top-10 team by the age of 17) or a new roej (joining a tier-1 team by 28). I believe in you brother <3
2022-07-19 22:49
if i could give my 14yo self advice - drink more alcohol - go gym earlier - DONT try penis enlargement techniques - beat up MORE kids
2022-07-19 22:50
5 replies
why no PE?
2022-07-20 01:33
4 replies
i had to get it removed because it was too badly damaged
2022-07-20 01:42
3 replies
brooo? and now?
2022-07-20 10:19
2 replies
micropenis
2022-07-20 13:45
1 reply
;( F bro
2022-07-20 15:37
#100
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Trinidad and Tobago r41
too old already
2022-07-19 22:50
#104
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Italy PhilD06
no age is too young imo, kennyS and other ppl started playing at 6 so yeah haha, 14 is pretty normal imo, you still have ti9me and stuff, its never too early, nor too late I think, saffee is an example, he is 27 and this is his first T1 team so yeah, keep grinding
2022-07-19 22:51
6 replies
saffee is an exception, and he played cs before too. why do i see people have this wet dream that if one or two guys make it to tier1 late then anyone can do. they r talented and had a passion to grind a lot, most of the people not gonna repeat their way
2022-07-20 13:08
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#345
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Italy PhilD06
according to your logic every pro is an exception then
2022-07-20 13:27
4 replies
ehmm yes? pro players r actually exception in any sport. there is less than 0.5% players who make it to pro scene. yes, they r exceptions. they r hard workers who grinds 10 hours+ a day when they start, they have talent and they have passion to grind and love the game. most of the players who gonna grind 10+hours a day gonna hate this game after a year or two of this grinding.
2022-07-20 13:34
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#351
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Italy PhilD06
dumb take
2022-07-20 13:40
2 replies
tell me how many italians make it to tier1 scene if its that easy to u. actually i can give u an answer, 0 italian tier1 players in 22 years of cs. Z E R O u understand my words when u'll get older, but u r young and having wet dreams that goin pro is easy, i was thinking and dreaming like that in my 15-19 years too
2022-07-20 13:45
1 reply
#363
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Italy PhilD06
I never said going pro is easy, no one thinks that probably, and about the italian T1 players, yeah there are 0, but almost no one plays cs in Italy so thats a dumb argument
2022-07-20 14:41
#105
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Georgia g3ks1
chance to become at least tier-2 player is 0,01%, better to focus on education, health and live happy when you will be 20-25, use cs only like a chilling game, make fan and etc. I mean if you sure, you can play 10h per day, without any life, but too small chances. GL in live, not me to teach you.
2022-07-19 22:52
#111
rain | 
India aR__
If you aren't already good like FACE IT Level 8+ minimum I'd say don't do it, instead focus on studying and study what you love!
2022-07-19 22:54
1 reply
i am only level 4 and i am studying on the side. i really enjoy chemistry. so who knows i can beat s1mple or be make meth in an rv. both ways worrk
2022-07-19 22:55
if you believe you have the talent then go for it. youve got to want it more than anything if youre gonna make it :o
2022-07-19 22:55
no, if you really want it go for it, m0nesy started younger and look at him.
2022-07-19 22:55
3 replies
and look at saffee. 27 years old only started when he was around 24
2022-07-19 22:56
2 replies
Exactly, go for it but don't lose focus on education, don't put all your eggs on the same basket. Good luck! :)
2022-07-19 23:03
1 reply
thx
2022-07-19 23:04
No monesy started at fucking 6 or something and he got into his first t1 team when he was 16 idk when saffee started but he made it to t1 scene when he was 26 so there is no late and early unless you are 4 or 44
2022-07-19 22:57
2 replies
bruh eevryone is comparing to monesy. I dont care about monesy. i dot care how young he started or how old saffee. why cant i have my own storyline. look at niko. did u ever expect one of the best players of all time to be from a country as poor as bosnia (I have nothing against bosnia). or fallen from brazil. its all the first story lines
2022-07-19 23:00
1 reply
wtf are you saying
2022-07-19 23:42
give yourself 6 months to see what level of game you be able to reach. If you are really good at csgo then why not
2022-07-19 23:02
1 reply
aight thx
2022-07-19 23:04
Depends on your level rn
2022-07-19 23:09
4 replies
its only 4 which is why im asking. if i was around 8 -10 then no question ubt im a very low level
2022-07-19 23:10
3 replies
Push yourself and try to atleast reach lvl 10 by your 15. Trust me its not really that hard if you learn util and practice your aim alot.
2022-07-19 23:17
2 replies
aighe 3 month timer starting now
2022-07-19 23:17
1 reply
good luck
2022-07-19 23:18
#135
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Poland shima1
I'm afraid it's too late unless you belive you got a real talent for it. I was pro player of Wolfenstein Enemy Territory once but I did it mainly for fun. By 2004-2010 I had tousends of hours of play, 4th place with my clan in Poland but I just got memories. Back then gaming industry was basically nonexistent, very specific and small. Nowadays it's different but still I'm afraid that you will regret to put all in on games right now. If you were 8 or 9 with this attitude, its a different story
2022-07-19 23:09
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#137
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Poland shima1
And yes, Im old (32)
2022-07-19 23:10
honestly i had this go pro attitude for about a year but i never wanted to do it. but now im watching demos (my own and pro players), im playing faceit and i think i have a real shot
2022-07-19 23:11
1 reply
#141
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Poland shima1
good luck to you, fingers crossed, consistency is the key to any success, you might try it for year or 2, see what happens. Also consult it with your parents, they will probably tell you not to do it but if youre finacially stable, why the hell not. Do what you love. Consequence and consistency is key
2022-07-19 23:16
Respect to you <3 Wolf ET best game 4ever, unlucky that there aren't LANs and shit, game of my childhood Imagine tho if Wolf was popular as CS 1.6, it would be awesome and mb with not death scene
2022-07-20 01:07
if you dont have foundation that single most rtarded thread i ever read in my life
2022-07-19 23:14
2 replies
foundation? u mean like backups and financial stability
2022-07-19 23:15
1 reply
i meant like programming, video editing skills, maybe semi pro skills and i mean semi pro not just tweeday skills or haix, if you just like cs and said this look hilarious dumb
2022-07-19 23:23
Keep grinding but don’t do bad in school. If you’re passionate why not give it a try. School is ezpz at 14
2022-07-19 23:19
Don't give up your dreams, and keep studying, this is good for you / your brain even if you don't pursue academic life. By the way, Fallen already gave some classes to players +- your age, sadly they are in Portuguese. He helped a couple young Brazilians play better CS and nowadays they are pretty good: like snowzin (he is now in young gods, and played in the academy league) and daiki (she is playing Valorant for Liquid). Maybe at some point you can have a similar opportunity in NA. Good luck for you, Leinad27ST
2022-07-19 23:22
1 reply
Fallen thing was called "Treinando kids academy". Maybe there is a similar content in English. I will let you know if I find anything!
2022-07-19 23:27
Honest opinion: You are still young enough to get to a very good level if you grind enough and start to watch a lot of demos from pros and yourself (you are already doing that, that's great). BUT you should also be excelling in school, try to be the best player in your cs team and in your class. If you are still seeking to be a pro at 17-18 then you have all doors open in life with a good school degree and you dont need to bank everything on one card. Advice from a mid 20s dude.
2022-07-19 23:24
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#159
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United States OsloDaPig
^^^ There's no reason why you can't try to be both a good student and CS player. Is it going to be harder than just doing one or the other? Yes but it's going to be easier, in the long run, having something to fall back on. Knowing people who have taken the leap to make a career out of CS I can say that around half of them kept with schooling as well, and they tended to be the ones to succeed knowing it wasn't all or nothing.
2022-07-19 23:29
to young? its to old 🤣
2022-07-19 23:29
2 replies
lmao i ment to write old wups
2022-07-19 23:30
1 reply
bro you are lvl4 faceit and wanna go pro :D my mom probably could get lvl 5 i mean faceit has nothing to do with beeing pro lvl 10 is just for flexing purposes faceit and pro cs are quite opposite, quite talented people who play other cs versions they join cs go they are not special they would destroy you and they are not close to beeing full time pro, also i played with couple pros i was semi pro myself so look, You have 0 chance to become as good as top tier pros its not meant to be :D 2 factors comes to my mind i played 1x1 against pro their aim can be quite special and i played with semi pro teams so inside that team you can see there is huge variety of players like leader can be pretty great but last 2 can be nutjobs no one will want to carry you
2022-07-20 08:27
#160
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Czech Republic JameS_19
I don’t think you should do either of these things. Grinding and going pro? Only 0.0002% people of these who grind to be a pro actually become a pro player, you gotta be extremely good and extremely skilled. Also you’re in NA, your scene, let’s be honest, is dead af, there are no orgs to pick up young players to give them a chance, and there aren’t even any competitions. And about the content creation: Cs doesn’t have a content creation scene, let’s face it. Valorant does, their pro players are more like content creators (Shaz, TenZ, now even Shroud). But cs has shit viewership when there isn’t a tournament going on, cs is an esport heavy game, but no one watches the streamers.
2022-07-19 23:29
3 replies
ok i strongly disagree with your statistics 0.0002% become pro players its just nonsense cs dont even have enough players so we can come up with such percentage :D where you came up with this number i dont know but overall i wanna say 1 in 1000 become pros since i was semi pro i know this better hah First of all look, just because you have too much free time doesnt mean you grinding for pro just because you addicted doesnt mean you grinding for pro like lets take how many people there are who try to perfectly polish their system for cs starting mousepad id say people who take care of their mousepad and kiss it for good luck its chance you go pro like that with % 10 percent :D
2022-07-20 08:51
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#285
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Czech Republic JameS_19
I meant it in a sense that you gotta be best of the best to be a top tier pro. Tens of thousand people have been griding to become a top tier pro. But how many of them actually became one? Around 250 (Im counting only the top 50 teams, since in the most of them players have an actual salary, and only 150 play it on a real high level where they have good salaries). And considering how many people have been griding at some point, your chances that you will be an actual top tier pro and not just ESEA main playe are really low, thats what I wanted tp say.
2022-07-20 09:57
1 reply
ye still.... you missing my point what im trying to say here. First of all pro career requires luck because its teamgame like you can score 40 frags lose game lost tournament dont get winnings put career on pause you can be great player but not make money, you can be support karrigan for faze with low stats and be millionair, what i meant is achieving pro level is not impossible you confusing some things like, you can be at pro level but doesnt mean you gonna win tournament and get winnings your team can suck and you can lose it all for months and years probably Now you missing other point in other part of the topic, you saying that becoming pro is low chance its around 0.000000000000000000000001 only achieve it. Its also not very true chance is pretty high to become at pro level but i so far didnt say anything about making tons of winnings money. Problem is you calculate too many players who dont want to be pros you calculate some kids who dont wanna listen to babling or drunk parents so they get those 5k hours and faceit lvl 10 and pretend they gonna be pros, you calculating pretenders, all type of keyboard warriors into the numbers, If you wanna go pro usual thing is you are age 10 maybe 11 you say to your buddy oh we getting good at this game maybe we should go for it, this could be considered pro effort even then if these kids stop cs after year and a half it also becomes irrelevant try its more like needed to be 5-10 year effort try and then we can say no those guys didnt make it i think we find 1000 of those and 1 pro who done it You mistake TROLLS which CS GO has millions of with people who try to become professionals indeed. I played with pros there and there their skills are great but its not god given miracle to become one if invested time and money into cs chance is not that low to compete on same tournament as professionals.
2022-07-20 11:32
no not at all follow your dreams my friend!
2022-07-19 23:30
Its actually too late
2022-07-19 23:31
#165
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Europe Neramun
go to school 8 hrs a day, play cs the rest of the day and on holidays, you'll be pro in no time if u start at 14, trust me dude when i started 1.6 at age 8 i was an insane player by the time i was 11, but then csgo came out and i stopped cs 1.6
2022-07-19 23:32
You still have time to become great, remember that some of the best players at this moment started even later (Valde,BlameF, Jackz)
2022-07-19 23:33
#167
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Serbia ckejo
go follow your dreams kiddo, from one aspiring pro to another maybe i'll meet you on the stage one day ;D
2022-07-19 23:34
you cant you are twistzz fan.
2022-07-19 23:34
stay in school, please.
2022-07-19 23:36
start as soon as you can wtf man
2022-07-19 23:39
#172
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Brazil hugoooo
Terrible timing for a Canadian to pursue a career as CSGO pro player. Unless you have plans to move to Europe soon.
2022-07-19 23:44
Faceit level 4 at 14 = focus on school mate There are plenty other ways to make a living from your passion You can become a caster, a journalist, an analyst, a TO, photographer, and so much more I hate raining on one’s parade but I don’t think it’s possible If you truly believe in yourself go for it, but get a plan b
2022-07-19 23:57
Do those things if you want, but you need a backup plan. Keep working hard in school and pour all your free time after school into whatever you choose,
2022-07-20 00:06
If ur awper u can replace junior easily
2022-07-20 00:08
If you are passing school, then ofc you can try, however if gaming actually impacts your school to the point where you are failing thats bad. A lot of it depends on your current skill level, whats your faceit level, whats your winrate and are you playing solo or not
2022-07-20 00:10
There are many IF... Also, at this age you can burnout very easy, keep grinding, make some content, educate yourself. Opportunity might come at any point!
2022-07-20 00:12
perfect time to grind, keep attending school as normal and study of course, but in your free time you can grind cs and become a great player :)
2022-07-20 00:15
too young? perhaps too late.
2022-07-20 00:16
whats ur faceit level?
2022-07-20 00:26
3 replies
only 4/5
2022-07-20 00:42
2 replies
How many hours do you have?
2022-07-20 01:08
dont think youre gonna make it then bud
2022-07-20 18:09
bait
2022-07-20 00:31
there is simple life rule: do what u want and do not listen to anyone, not even your family. simple and very important and do not make topics on fucking hltv for asking someone opinion or permission). this is so funny and i think u cant even imagine how it can affects on u in a bad way
2022-07-20 00:58
U still have a chance. Just go full grind, but expect that there might not be nothing happening (good teams) for a long time. Give it everything for like a year or two, try to reach the highest elo and then decide if it's worth it or no. Improve in the right way, put in the hours and ez. People saying too late are... weird and there are pro players that started even older than you
2022-07-20 01:09
Too late
2022-07-20 01:05
#198
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Korea Piano
7/8 since you got 200 responses
2022-07-20 01:07
#201
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Finland FlNLAND
Uhhhh the sooner u start, the better. KOVA player pietola started grinding cs when he was 11-12 years old, used to play pcws with him many times in CS Source back in 2010. He wasn't nearly the best, but he had the most mature mindset in the server despite being youngest. Cant remember him raging or tilting ever. And from that group of 15-20 guys he was the only one who made it to top tier. If I ever have a child and they show interest to cs at young age I will start to coach the hell outta them asap, when their brains are still taking in information like a sponge
2022-07-20 01:21
u can try but if in 3 years u cant master or be as good as pros in aiming and flash placements I think it's better to leave it. I try for over 14 years now to perfect myself in cs but im still way behind so many good players in their prime.
2022-07-20 01:12
8 replies
#207
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Finland FlNLAND
What leagues have you played?
2022-07-20 01:22
7 replies
no leagues just small lan tournies
2022-07-20 01:23
6 replies
#210
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Finland FlNLAND
Did you start in 1.6 or css?
2022-07-20 01:25
5 replies
1.6
2022-07-20 01:25
4 replies
#218
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Finland FlNLAND
Okay, the problem with OG's like you and me is that we grew up in an environment where access to comprehensive in-depth guides, movement/shooting practice routines, pro player streams, tips and tricks and tutorials was almost non-existent. There was no clear meta playstyle other than silent running (ctrl + mousewheel crouch spam), spraying walls and going for highlight plays. Nowadays its much more faster and easier for youngsters to learn proper playstyles, executes, economy management, track your stats/performance and even review demos. Being in a serious team and constantly playing 5v5 matches against other teams in online tournaments and LAN parties was and still is the best and probably only way to becoming a pro player. As long as your individual performance keeps getting better, sooner or later high tier teams are going to take notice. For example Jackz was starting to get noticed when he was already 25 years old.
2022-07-20 01:51
3 replies
well I grew up in the latter years of 1.6 so there wasn't many teams in my area if any at all and I had to play with mates who have 0 experiences in matches and play on their freetime vs me who plays the game on mixes almost everyday lol. When CSGO came out I just did not have the technological equipment to play. All very bad timing BUT I enjoy those moments the most for sure.
2022-07-20 04:57
2 replies
#373
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Finland FlNLAND
True :)
2022-07-20 15:22
1 reply
anyway Im happy when the younger gen get to play with their friends or become pro in the game :D. I remember telling my brother I wanted to attend WCGs and he was like have u asked dad lmao
2022-07-20 15:51
Most people aren't cut out to be pro tbh so just grind and see if you have the talent and work ethic in you.
2022-07-20 01:17
its not late, go for it, BUT dont forget to live your life. Put serious hours into this if you want, but dont forget there's more in life than this and focus on school. All together will be a lot of work and will be hard, but there is no easy way. Also rest and sleep well
2022-07-20 01:17
play a lot but don't waste all of your time. even if you think you have a good chance, the odds are against you. Play, practice, get better. but don't neglect school and don't isolate yourself. like #206 said, don't forget that you need to live your life as well.
2022-07-20 01:26
the truth is that you don't want to be a pro, do you know how much they sacrifice?
2022-07-20 01:43
if you ask this question specially on hltv, all i can say to you is gl...
2022-07-20 01:45
It's not too late if you have the talent. At your age the most important thing is to enjoy your life. If CS is what drives you, then go for it. But dont forget school and friends.
2022-07-20 02:01
its perfect time rofl
2022-07-20 02:04
The sad reality is that in NA, you basically have no chance of going pro. There was never enough infrastructure and with Valorant the gap between the pro teams in NA and the rest widened immensely. Grim was considered the #1 up and comer for a long time and it still took 2 years for him to get a shot, and his performance probably will deter NA teams further from picking up young NA players. There aren't enough good players in NA to develop talent to compete against EU, so teams bootcamp in EU. It's why Liquid instead opted for shox and now Yekindar instead of getting an NA player. If things continue as they are, then there will probably be even less support in 3-4 years when you will be looking for opportunities. My advice is to keep grinding if its your passion. Join an ESEA team ASAP and get team experience as you grind up the ranks. This way, if things improve in NA you'll be primed to go pro but if not you'll still have enjoyed getting better. Plus, if a new game you enjoy comes along then the skills you learned getting better at CS will give you an advantage against the rest. Good luck.
2022-07-20 02:18
if you really want it you should go for it but you should stick to education a few more years since your brain is still developing and u might need better brain when ur adult and a csgo pro
2022-07-20 02:26
#231
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Germany G3er
hltv.org/player/20171/snowzin he's been a pro for many years now, if anything like people said, it's late to start if you don't have the talent
2022-07-20 02:41
When you go to UofT, you can go pro, but not right now
2022-07-20 03:22
3 replies
if u go to UofT, you'll be lucky to even go to sleep
2022-07-20 03:32
2 replies
EEsama in Dota2 decided to drop from Engineering second year and go pro
2022-07-20 03:47
1 reply
yeah if you enroll into uni i doubt you'll get the time to go pro and do ur studies at the same time
2022-07-20 03:54
For sure you could make it but going pro has a shit ton of different layers that ur prolly not even realising atm. It is a lot of dedication and requires sacrifice in the sense of it’ll come ahead of different social events or school which is why I wouldnt recommend going pro, but to give my honest opinion as you asked for, yes you could go pro and 14 is defo not too late dw.
2022-07-20 03:33
#240
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Argentina cheapdeed
you can go pro NOW!!!!!!!
2022-07-20 03:41
bro m0nesy literally was on stage katowice semi final or whatever at age 16 AND he is one of the best players rn, you are never too young start grinding if you want to. join some lower level teams and get team experience. use esea to find people with similar competitive mindset. dont just grind faceit solo games all day
2022-07-20 04:01
most pro athletes in any sport or competition start at age 13-16 so give it a try and see how fast you can progress. you can even start at 20+ if you are naturally talented with quick, adaptive thinking skills and mechanical accuracy. I gave up around 17 and only kept the emergency stand-in role while most of my friends played pro in 1.6 as I got more interested in audio/video editing, hardware, music and later car modding. the most important thing is having a good mindset that allows you to see your own potential while also being able to recognize flaws or barriers that might turn out to be too hard for you to overcome. but if you start out focused on doubts, then you will never truly find out where your limitations are. you have to believe in yourself and still be okay if you somehow cannot (or dont want to) make it that far anymore.
2022-07-20 04:17
No, invest on your upper half instead
2022-07-20 04:18
34 is too young, find normal job, idiot, and contribute to society, not wank some electronic devices like zombie
2022-07-20 04:48
stop doing that and become a member of hustlers univeristy 2.0
2022-07-20 05:17
The best pros have started at a very early age.
2022-07-20 05:20
#256
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Austria Grundz
Don't waste your youth. Enjoy your teens. Go to school. Meet new people. Spending all day practicing/playing is something you will regret when you are older. Find a career you can rely on for 30+ years, not one that will keep you around in unstable employment for maybe 5.
2022-07-20 05:44
2 replies
#372
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Brazil ricca
best realistic advice in this thread no cap
2022-07-20 14:56
1 reply
#387
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Austria Grundz
ty, my brother
2022-07-20 20:03
too late if u dont have 3k elo at 13
2022-07-20 06:22
1 reply
5K*
2022-07-20 09:04
As long as you're still doing homework. Make sure you're getting good grades and living your life still or it might get away from you.
2022-07-20 06:31
stop asking random people online what you should do just go do it! :)
2022-07-20 06:34
Yolo, go for it m8. You'll get there!
2022-07-20 06:58
#264
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Spain moorakami
csgo will be dead before you reach your peak bro
2022-07-20 07:25
school is more important than csgo especially considering the predicted survivability of this game
2022-07-20 07:28
3/8
2022-07-20 08:34
dont go pro man, its not worth it.
2022-07-20 08:51
Do what makes you happy. But remember to be realistic. Ropz for example has a degree since he didn't compromise his pro career for education. You choose what you want to do with your life. Not everything works out but if you have a passion for CS, maybe you can build your career around it even though you might not become a pro. You can become a coach, an analyst, a caster, idk whatever revolves around CS if you want so. But if you want to become pro, you gotta put your hours in as well. You are quite young still to attempt becoming a pro. You just gotta focus on improving everyday and play in teams to get some experience and become better as a Team player.
2022-07-20 09:02
To give you a real answer: The only time you have to really grind is now. You can't start going for it when you are 18, because real life problems will hit you hard then. If you REALLY want to go pro and think you have a chance to achieve this, grind now as much as you can and see where it goes. If it doesn't work out, you still have other ways to follow.
2022-07-20 09:05
dont listen to what others say. just follow ur guts. its better to listen to urself what u want and be satisfy whether its a good choice or not since its ur own decision. NEVER LET OTHER PEOPLE CHOOSE FOR U SINCE U WILL REGRET IT ALOT. btw JUST REMEMBER THAT U WILL MAKE THAT BIG LIFE DECISION either its a bust or nah just do it
2022-07-20 09:17
follow you're heart son
2022-07-20 09:46
#286
NiKo | 
Germany Booya
No its not!
2022-07-20 09:59
Too old, to be honest. Bymas had 3k elo at 14 :/
2022-07-20 10:02
No, not at all 12-13 is a good early age but 14 is fine too but don't waste any time
2022-07-20 10:03
yes
2022-07-20 10:19
Might I suggest just going to school and getting a normal job instead
2022-07-20 10:34
Too old already sry
2022-07-20 10:40
no
2022-07-20 10:45
grinding for csgo is waste of life if you aren't 3k elo already, go grind school instead and GET A JOB
2022-07-20 10:55
no not at all brother. but one should be careful when you consider this career/life.
2022-07-20 10:57
#302
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Russia moscowboy
Make sure you won't be expelled out of your education and try grinding in the meantime, that's the safest way to have smth if it goes wrong someday.
2022-07-20 11:02
Valorant
2022-07-20 11:04
Education first. Think how many people have attempted to go pro in 1.6, source or CS:GO and never made it, only to become a closer to 30 year old failure with nothing to show.
2022-07-20 11:15
close this fucking thread right now and go follow your dream
2022-07-20 11:28
give yourself a deadline. if u dont make it in 2 years, focus on education and other stuff and give up on the dream to become pro.
2022-07-20 11:30
1 reply
LOL
2022-07-20 11:37
m0NESY did it so i would say no.
2022-07-20 11:31
What is your faceit lvl?
2022-07-20 11:36
R u fk u
2022-07-20 11:46
get some csgo coaching
2022-07-20 11:47
#318
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Russia Aleksgri
Just don't forget about studying, don't put all your eggs in one basket
2022-07-20 11:50
#319
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Hungary hltvmens
whats a skin nerd
2022-07-20 11:53
Education and video game can be done at the same time. But beware, education will save you if your career doesnt go well and not the way around. Its too rare for new pros to emerge, it's statistically dumb to go all in in pro video games. If you still want to give it a try, make sure your parents agree and make sure you just dont do pugs and deathmatch. At faceit lvl10 or esea rank A+, everyone knows how to aim, so deathmatch only brings you so far. Get a team as soon as you can (esea is great for building teams, dont know about faceit). Learn to be a good teammate and how teams play together. You should be able to get around 2k hours of good experience in 1 or 2 years which is great and not overshadowing your education. Since you are 14, i assume your voice might be annoying for some, so keep that in mind, dont be too aggressive on the mic. Dont rage at others, be a good teammate and learn how to use utilities, economy, map strategies. The hardest part will be to find a team that is willing to put the same effort as you. Most of the time, your projet will simply fail, but dont despair. Find a new team as soon as possible, even if they are not that good at first. Also, build your friend list, getting contacts is a great way to find players, build teams and join 10 mans and stuff. Good luck.
2022-07-20 12:02
Too old I would say.
2022-07-20 12:02
It's not late, doable if u apply yourself. Tho there are many examples of ppl having incredible achievements being 14 or younger.
2022-07-20 12:08
#324
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Sweden EntonXD
Dont prioritize the game over your childhood and dont be toxic on faceit because not everyone wants to be a pro
2022-07-20 12:13
im 14 and i want to be a csgo pro and for the first time this time i really have a great feeling and i really want to become a pro. iem cologne inspired me. so it is too young to start grinding. should i instead focus on content creation or smth. or be a skin nerd lmao. pls be honest
2022-07-20 12:14
lol hltv is so easy to troll it seems why do ppl reply to something this obvious?
2022-07-20 12:15
it's too old
2022-07-20 12:19
#332
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Estonia Kukkel
You are wait too late, about 5-6 yrs old you need to start grinding.
2022-07-20 12:52
why going pro while you can be a tiktok inf and make shit ton of money before your 20
2022-07-20 13:07
You're a boomer. If you're not single digit age, you're past your prime.
2022-07-20 13:17
if you really want it, its fair enough to try, you're young. but don't stop with your studies, don't give up on that, that might be the most important thing for you and you just don't know. you can't throw away your studies for something that isn't concrete. remember that even some pros kept studying and doing homework while being or trying to be pros (eg: ropz and coldzera), finishing school is important, and more important is learning not just doing stuff to finish fast.
2022-07-20 13:26
#350
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Finland KieZuZ
Too old
2022-07-20 13:33
#352
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Brazil danllst
Hello Daniel brodah! Good luck on life, don't wait to much before doing anything because it goes fast! When you stop, it already past by.
2022-07-20 13:43
#354
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CIS 2ocean
poor kid, quit hltv and never come here again, save your life and don't repeat others mistakes
2022-07-20 13:45
I guess more TwistZz inspired you than Cologne :D Dont want to be rude with that flag checks out To be honest hes a beast
2022-07-20 13:45
A lot of pros started grinding far before that. If you want to become a pro, then I wish you best of luck, and encourage you to start grinding while keeping a healthy balance - don't let your education, physical health, or mental health go to shit.
2022-07-20 13:50
Maybe a bit too late, but for sure possible, go for it
2022-07-20 13:57
you better switch games while you can. counter strike is barely american
2022-07-20 14:01
#364
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Germany X5ander
yep, definitily, you can't play a shooter, where you kill peoble with 14. Just get 18, than you can play it.
2022-07-20 14:42
3 replies
yes im sorry mom. i swear i won't play any shooter games unti im 18 besides gta
2022-07-20 14:43
2 replies
#377
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Germany X5ander
thx dude, but plz stop playing GTA also. play fifa or some mario games.
2022-07-20 15:53
1 reply
hahahaaa, bro i have been playing shooters since i was a toddler. You are just one of those weirdos who think that games make you violent.
2022-07-21 16:36
If ur not faceit lvl 10 its too late.
2022-07-20 14:44
1 reply
truth
2022-07-21 16:35
u never too young or old to start grinding. if you have the passion you have it. But you need to know that life takes priority
2022-07-20 14:44
You have to be 18 to play csgo so yes. Its too early.
2022-07-20 14:48
1 reply
0/8 bad bait
2022-07-21 16:35
if u truly love the game like nothing else in this life its perfect age play&play
2022-07-20 14:51
1 reply
I was terrible at 14, really got better at everything at 16/17+. Maybe others have it different, but iirc I was silver1 then with no hope of improving. 3 years later when I picked cs back up again I got to global, where I am now.
2022-07-21 09:18
Yes, if you're ready to dedicate 9+ hours a day to cs
2022-07-20 14:52
Its too make cs a priority in ur life. At that age u have enough time to play and see if u can reach a certain level without playing 10h/day. If u reach a good level you can really consider becoming pro. Dont make ur life about csgo when u have no idea what life is or if u have any ounce of talent to become one
2022-07-20 16:03
#390
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Czech Republic forseti12
I don't think it's too late but also have a back up plan in case you don't make it, don't put all your cards on csgo. We only see/hear about people that made it to the top and don't see the people that grinded cs every day for years but did not make it and have a crappy job rn because they quit school for example.
2022-07-20 20:07
14 is a great age to start grinding. take advantage of your free time and really dedicate yourself to getting better. u dont have to be an all star to make it. Just don't get discouraged and try your hardest to be a positive influence on any team you're on, it's not just about skill. learn how to play as a team
2022-07-20 20:16
1 reply
you dont think its to late to start grinding at 14?
2022-07-21 16:34
focus on school and on your free time grind... never abdicate ur future for a game... yes, some people make it work out but it's like 0.01% of csgo players. wish u good luck!
2022-07-20 21:41
Do homework
2022-07-20 22:08
more like too late to start grinding for pro. all the pros played cs since they are like 5 and grinded their entire teenage years. the standards are also much higher too since there are a lot more players. monesy is the guy you should pay attention too since he is most similar to your situation, he was already in navi junior by 14. this doesnt rule out the chance but i would say it's better to just play competitvely and focus on school too
2022-07-20 22:15
keep school in mind but if you want to play seriously (from NA) grind faceit with some buds and when you feel comfortable, if you want to join a team play ESEA. their league play is the best I've ever seen, as esea open is very friendly. networking is huge in ESEA, so don't be annoying lol
2022-07-21 00:16
1 reply
There you can see it really isnt about what AGE you start it's about your dedication and atitude towards your dreams.
2022-07-21 00:58
14 is way too young for getting to become pro. you must at least be 15 years old.
2022-07-21 01:09
considering that there are 12yo fpl heroes you can definitely grind at this age, when you reach that insane high level you'll just need experience and u can be full ready to play top level by the age of 16
2022-07-21 01:21
Are you an fpl hero or at least lvl 10 with 2kd? If not, then forget about it, unless you're content with being a T2/3 player at best. There's nothing wrong with grinding cs, but to go pro you have to be insane.
2022-07-21 09:15
im gonna be honest, if you are 14 you are way to old to push for pro unless you are already a good player (is global and has good faceit rank)
2022-07-21 16:33
Too late.
2022-07-21 23:49
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