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Current TOP AWP Player
Sweden V1kingGod 
1. Simple - He is the best player in the game and he plays the AWP so the #1 spot RN is his. 2. Broky - Has proven he is the first contender with simple. He beat him in the final, both team wise and individually 3. Shiro - Great player, RN even better than Zywoo. 4. Zywoo - Has potential to be the best in the world. But with his current team and their struggles he has not been able to perform. 5. Syrson - Great with the AWP. He truly carries BIG with Tabsen time and time again. 6. Degster - Has shown that he is great with this weapon. Will be fun to follow him after the break. After these guys, the spots are really up for grabs. Monesy is not consistent enough rn but has potential to become #1. Which other AWP:ers should be in the top 10?
2022-07-20 23:20
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Farlig
2022-07-20 23:20
33 replies
Probably could be in the top 10
2022-07-20 23:24
27 replies
We are fucked if he is top10 awpers
2022-07-20 23:31
24 replies
So beside these 6 I listed, who are the other 4?
2022-07-20 23:32
22 replies
Saffe, hades, sunpayus,torzi, jame, try
2022-07-20 23:35
18 replies
yeah, those names sound better than farlig I agree. Havent seen try but the others are probably better
2022-07-20 23:38
13 replies
Try still figthing for his position in awp ranking, but besides him and Hades, other ones are clearly better than Farlig, i mean, at least have more impact than him
2022-07-20 23:37
12 replies
yeah, before this event farlig was not close to top 10, then he had a few good maps/matches, but he need to show his skill more.
2022-07-20 23:39
11 replies
Who is better to astralis, farlig or lucky? Lucky was a pretty awful awper
2022-07-20 23:40
10 replies
farlig is on another lvl than lucky. But he still isnt top tier
2022-07-20 23:42
2 replies
It's hard to take device's place
2022-07-20 23:43
1 reply
Indeed
2022-07-20 23:56
Lucky was a better rifler than an AWPer ngl, think to BLAST fall final where gla1ve took the AWP and was actually quite good with it, likewise Lucky was better when he took up the AK both Farlig and Lucky have their strengths as players though, eg. Farlig is very good with pistols and Lucky was very good in clutches
2022-07-21 00:21
6 replies
glaive looked good with it cause it is OP I think. He is not an awper
2022-07-21 01:57
5 replies
so everybody can pick up an AWP and play well with it? no, they cant. look at Xyp9x and rain, neither of them choose to play AWP nor will AWP even if they have to
2022-07-21 13:35
4 replies
You need some basic skill my friend. Then you can wield the OP AWP
2022-07-21 13:40
#132
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Spain capta1n
2022-07-21 15:58
2 replies
i take back everything i say about Xyp9x not being an AWPer, i have been educated thank you my friend
2022-07-21 17:22
1 reply
#161
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Spain capta1n
Welcome to the enlightened!
2022-07-21 18:25
hades kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2022-07-21 18:57
oSee supremacy
2022-07-22 09:24
2 replies
oSee is average at best
2022-07-22 18:02
1 reply
played well in Cologne just the start
2022-07-22 19:27
#127
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Poland k9tur
dev1ce
2022-07-21 15:47
1 reply
Active player of course buddy.
2022-07-21 16:37
1. S0mple 2. Zywoo 3. Broky 4. Bottlenesy 5. saffee 6. Sh1ro 7. Jame 8. oSee (NA > Fartlig) 9. degster 10. smooya (8/8) 11. Amanek 12. torzsi In no particular order of skill
2022-07-24 00:42
LMAO
2022-07-22 16:43
in his 2020-21 form, if his team was more relevant, maybe yes, he could've been a top-10 awper. but currently i'd say he's one of the worst awpers players like torzsi, osee, cadian or m0nesy are easily better than him
2022-07-20 23:49
1 reply
Yeah, probably
2022-07-20 23:56
#27
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Brazil leomuradas
this is a top awper topic, not a top 10 of woat (worst of all time)
2022-07-20 23:34
#88
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Canada KoldfuR1a
+infinity
2022-07-21 11:37
EZ 4 farlig
2022-07-21 12:32
1. junior 2. farling rest irrelevant
2022-07-21 15:28
Junior first
2022-07-23 23:58
#2
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United States Doug1498
Torzi gotta be in there at like 8 or 7 and I with my NA bias will say Osee is 8-10
2022-07-20 23:21
1 reply
#182
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United States Topher
GoatSee #1
2022-07-22 17:20
Moe at 400 ping
2022-07-20 23:21
2 replies
Moe insane
2022-07-20 23:25
this
2022-07-21 11:37
1 broky 2 zywoo 3 farlig
2022-07-20 23:23
4 replies
You have better baits
2022-07-20 23:25
1 reply
1 broky - top 1 team top 1 sniper 2 zywoo - 2 top 1 placements and 1 top 2, only reliable player in his own team 3 farlig - finally broke into top 5 with astralis
2022-07-20 23:26
0/8
2022-07-23 23:58
1 reply
ok m0nesy 4
2022-07-24 00:26
#6
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Italy Karimk03
Stopped Reading at Broky
2022-07-20 23:24
26 replies
Hope your brain recovers and does better next time my friend. One day you will be able to read an entire post, I am sure, dont worry!
2022-07-20 23:26
24 replies
#16
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Italy Karimk03
:) sh1ro Is Better thant Broky,Ur delusional.
2022-07-20 23:29
23 replies
I think you underestimate broky, he is a top tier player. He beat simple in so many duels and he carries faze for the most part, for example.
2022-07-20 23:31
8 replies
I think broky outperforming s1mple in the final just came down to s1mple having some bad games, I would definitely say there’s a solid argument for sh1ro being better than broky but sh1ro is a bit like dev1ce in the sense that he’s a more stable instead of active player
2022-07-21 15:24
7 replies
#136
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Ireland JTJ
But except for Blast Broky always plays unreal against s1mple and NAVI
2022-07-21 16:04
3 replies
He does show up unreasonably well against NaVi compared to many of his other big game performances. Strange player, but it definitely makes the game more exciting when s1mple actually has someone to compete with
2022-07-21 16:30
2 replies
#143
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Ireland JTJ
i think if he can become that little bit more consistent he would cement himself as a top 3 awper
2022-07-21 16:36
1 reply
For sure top3 potential, but its always hard when you’re not as flashy
2022-07-21 16:46
Well, its a quality to be able to perform when you really need to.
2022-07-21 16:33
2 replies
For sure, but its not like s1mple normally doesn’t perform worse in finals, and I personally enjoy when broky and s1mple both go off on the same map
2022-07-21 16:44
1 reply
yeah, we will have more battles between these two
2022-07-21 16:54
Don't forget sh1ro stats are inflated due to the amount of times he's saving. He's a bit better than broky but don't get too ahead of it buddy. He has 0.52 dpr. That's better than what jame had in whole 2021 and that's next level saving. You know what that means? -> Kast automatically higher. -> Chances of having exit kills = Higher. -> KDR + Impact getting inflated. Don't get ahead of yourself.
2022-07-20 23:38
13 replies
good take my friend. The k/d and other stats of these savers are not to be trusted for sure. You need to watch them play to see their skill. Stats only show half of it at best.
2022-07-20 23:41
My problem with Sh1ro is he is just too 1 dimensional in the sense that when compared to the worlds best if he cant make his style work he doesnt have much else to fall back on. Look at S1mple for example the guy can aggressive awp, post up, rifle ect where as Sh1ro just seems to be more passive and I think that hurts him in some cases as sometimes you have to change it up
2022-07-20 23:43
11 replies
Yes. And people really need to stop arguing about sh1ro actually having more impact than ax1le. He doesn't. He might be a BIT better than broky but that's it. The way sh1ro plays the game is too structured and if something doesn't go his way from the first duel he's already saving. People checking impact/kdr to talk about who's the best don't realize that there are way more factors to take in account when it comes to check who's the best player or not. When people start realizing that #31 is pure stats inflating system, they'll start using the eye test instead. Same way it works for jame and blameF. BlameF is the only relevant player on astralis atm, not taking credit off him, but he saves the same amount of times if not more than sh1ro and that's a pure joke.
2022-07-20 23:45
Exactly, that is why broky is #2. He can change tge game with unexpected plays. That is so valuable
2022-07-20 23:59
9 replies
#57
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Italy Karimk03
Still sh1ro over broky dude :)
2022-07-21 00:27
8 replies
Not imo
2022-07-21 01:55
7 replies
#91
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Italy Karimk03
Stats says otherwhise.
2022-07-21 12:26
6 replies
Your comment doesnt make sense as an answer
2022-07-21 13:31
5 replies
#95
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Italy Karimk03
Ok.
2022-07-21 13:33
4 replies
delusional. then why they haven't won anything other than dallas.
2022-07-21 15:39
3 replies
because of the war in ukraine, plus they had to move out of their country, plus there isnt any home crowd at any event outside of na and it hurts their performance, plus the other team always had better luck against them when they lost, plus plus they are still young and dont have that much experience and they havent played as many tournaments so didnt have enough time to practice against teams in big games
2022-07-22 01:52
2 replies
shiro wasnt fighting, he was scared because he was russian. nice logic. first making excuse of Ukraine then no crowd in na. point is broky is much better then shiro in 2022 and you are delusional to think otherwise.
2022-07-22 09:20
1 reply
i mean i thought i made it obvious enough that what i said was meant to be making fun of the people who actually make bullshit excuses like that when players from teams they dont like are better than the players they like more
2022-07-22 10:36
+1
2022-07-23 12:55
#7
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United States Mattador424
Torzsi is a beast Osee had the best event of his entire career at Cologne Sunpayus has showed a pretty high ceiling especially lately try: pretty good for only being 17 years old, could see him being a top awper in a couple of years
2022-07-20 23:24
8 replies
Good take, Sunpayus is a great player, even with rifle. Osee is so young so can understand its his best event and he will get better and show more results for sure! Is "try" a 17 yo player? what team?
2022-07-20 23:28
2 replies
the new 00nation lineup with Taco and Cold
2022-07-20 23:31
1 reply
oh ok, thanks!
2022-07-20 23:33
I’m curious to see if sunpayus at cologne was a fluke or not, lots of times a t2 team will have a crazy run and then go back to losing vs other t2 teams. If he has a good EPL maybe we can solidify him in top10-7
2022-07-20 23:33
3 replies
Yeah, like copenhagen flames. They looked great and then just lost pretty much every game after the event, its strange how their motivation can just die.
2022-07-20 23:37
Me too, Sunpayus and Movistar had a really good match (against Liquid) and event at pro league season 15 (similar to Cologne) and they got worse after. I'm hoping they can use this momentum and stay consistent because they are fun to watch.
2022-07-20 23:38
T1 teams doesn't lose against T2-3 because they don't play qualis or they are already partners of big events, so they don't play against them very often. All top 30 teams have players that can aim and click heads and qualis are damn hard, because there's always good teams like og, spirit, riders, sprout, flames...playing them and their schedule is usually f*cked up because a lot of teams means you can have to play 3 different teams in a single day.
2022-07-22 19:18
Try was insane in that match against vitality a few months back
2022-07-22 01:33
sh1ro>broky zywoo>broky
2022-07-20 23:25
#13
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Romania B3ck3e3
Sunpayus???? Rn he is better that Syrson imo
2022-07-20 23:28
6 replies
He had a great event but hard to tell if he is better than syrson he has been playing really good as well. But I think he can be top 10
2022-07-20 23:29
5 replies
#74
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Romania B3ck3e3
Right now man.. Syrson only play good online one tine this year, sunpayus been great all year
2022-07-21 02:02
4 replies
People think Syrson only plays well online because he’s like a top3 player during online tournaments, but in reality he is still the best player on BIG and very good on LAN, also Sunpayus being great all year barely matters because the events Movistar played were barely relevant all year until Cologne. Definitely need to say more before you can put him above syrson
2022-07-21 15:27
3 replies
#199
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Romania B3ck3e3
Just the Major qual was a bigger result for BIG this year I would say... And the win in Roobet is not that big of a deal so I would say that Movistar better this year until now...
2022-07-23 12:47
2 replies
? Roobet and Major qual both better events than Valencia
2022-07-23 20:00
1 reply
#203
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Romania B3ck3e3
Roobet was online this is why I say that it was not better... And the run from cologne >big major run imo idk
2022-07-23 23:56
#14
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Austria Grundz
Broky above Zywoo and sh1ro? "SDY A BETTER RIFLER THAN NIKO. NAVI WIN MORE."
2022-07-20 23:28
7 replies
You obviously never watch broky lmao. He's wayy better than zywho en sh1rno. He's pretty close to s1mple's level
2022-07-20 23:38
6 replies
#40
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Austria Grundz
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2022-07-20 23:41
No.
2022-07-20 23:53
wtf
2022-07-21 02:32
Ok a little bit of a clown take, broky is flashier than sh1ro sure but better than Zywoo skill-wise idk man and for sure not as good stats, and broky is definitely not the same level as s1mple although his peaks are close
2022-07-21 15:28
2 replies
Maybe not better on skill ceiling, but this year he was on fire and he was much much better and did more impact than zywoo and sh1ro
2022-07-22 19:20
1 reply
I think he was not as good as either of them according to stats. FaZe did very well this year, but those two were still quite good. Just because their impact wasn’t enough to win doesn’t mean it wasn’t there, just means their teams couldn’t keep up
2022-07-22 21:44
#18
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Europe rxdzuu
hades
2022-07-20 23:30
junior
2022-07-20 23:30
TOP AWP LIST CONFIRMED: 1. Simple 2. Zywoo/Shiro (depending on who you like more) 3. Zywoo/Shiro 4-10. Whichever 7 AWPers had the best stats at the most recent event.
2022-07-20 23:32
2 replies
#31 this also works for you, but in this case for zywoo vs sh1ro
2022-07-20 23:39
I think broky being #4 and syrson being #5 would also be fair, but yeah basically
2022-07-21 15:28
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2022-07-20 23:39
#39
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Brazil Ricardogwz
DavCost
2022-07-20 23:40
Me
2022-07-20 23:42
#44
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Germany 4ntoN
the thing about broky, you jusr know he would be nowhere if his team wasn't stacked, he isnt a carry, he never was and he doesn't look like he will be. he is very streaky and can get you a win or two, but he is not on the same level as s1mple zywoo or sh1ro.
2022-07-20 23:42
13 replies
Sh1ro is not on the same level of s1mple or zywoo buddy. Get down of that horse you riding.
2022-07-20 23:51
9 replies
#55
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Germany 4ntoN
i dont care about your opinion sorry, stats say otherwise.
2022-07-21 00:18
8 replies
#31 'stats' You saying broky isn't a carry, so isn't sh1ro. Sh1ro is slightly ahead broky, but nowhere close to s1mple/Zywoo level. S1mple and Zywoo are both skilled. Sh1ro is too structured. His stats cant' really be comparable with what Zywoo or S1mple do.
2022-07-21 07:13
2 replies
#107
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India Nijer
Don't bother arguing with a delusional, sh1ro and Ax1le still at this point hasn't shown their worth of being No.2 or No.3 players just because of their "stats" but ofc they both have the potential to be No.2 or No.3 player but they would have to show those "stats" on big stages against the very best also they have like almost half the maps played compared to broky or any of the faze players
2022-07-21 15:20
1 reply
#129
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Germany 4ntoN
broky 😂😂😂😂
2022-07-21 15:52
sh1ro is just jame in disguise. they're literally the same player. only difference is that he has ax1le, hobbit and nafany to bait
2022-07-22 18:06
4 replies
#187
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Germany 4ntoN
said no one with a brain ever
2022-07-22 18:16
3 replies
0-2 flag + ure Russian L
2022-07-22 18:52
2 replies
#190
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Germany 4ntoN
british flag on a cs forum automatically removes all credibility, i can only laugh at you.
2022-07-22 19:08
1 reply
0-2
2022-07-22 19:45
#60
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Italy Karimk03
Common fax from Anthony.
2022-07-21 00:32
1 reply
#67
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Germany 4ntoN
+1 fratello
2022-07-21 01:05
he won't be anywhere with stacked team, yeah sure top 20 in 2021 with his team winning nothing whole year and best they did was loss in semifinals in cologne. Massive amount of copium is required.
2022-07-21 15:41
SunPayus is pretty reliable
2022-07-21 00:03
I don't know about syrsoN he is god like in online tournaments but in LAN tournaments he disappears
2022-07-21 00:29
4 replies
People always say this but he’s still the best player on BIG during LAN too, he still plays well and gets like 1.1+ rating, its just that he always gets like 1.4 online or something insane like that. He’s not a bad AWPer on LAN just because he’s like the best AWPer online
2022-07-21 15:30
3 replies
+1
2022-07-21 16:01
I thought either Krimbo or TabseN would be BIG's best player in LAN but syrsoN. Interesting.
2022-07-21 22:35
1 reply
Syrson the only player who overshadows himself lmao
2022-07-21 22:51
ZywOo needs a +1 to team for misutaaa and i think it will be more than ok to win tourneys
2022-07-21 00:31
3 replies
#63
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Italy Karimk03
No dude,faze and navi still Better imo.
2022-07-21 00:38
2 replies
Of course but vitality can still win tier 2 tourneys 🙂
2022-07-21 11:35
1 reply
#92
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Italy Karimk03
:( why so rude mens.
2022-07-21 12:30
#61
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Egypt BomberMan_
degster >> syrson
2022-07-21 00:34
broky 2nd. The only weak spot in faze lineup. really slow awp player without any impact on the game. Only thing that he is good at is clutches. I can say like 15 better awp players in top 30. Surely you dont know anything about awping
2022-07-21 00:35
6 replies
0/8 really bad bait.
2022-07-21 11:36
Name 15 AWP players better than broky I can name MAYBE 5, and that’s even a stretch
2022-07-21 15:30
4 replies
S1mple sh1ro Zywoo SunPayus mONESY torzsi syrsoN oSee Degster Jame try woxic Questionable picks: hades saffee cadiaN
2022-07-21 15:39
3 replies
oSee, Jame, and woxic currently just worse by every metric than broky is, even if woxic’s aim looks cool. Broky just gets more kills and has higher stats in every category than they do. -3 makes that 12 Hades and cadiaN, obviously not, again broky beats them by every measurement (even clutches, which are their strong suits). -2 makes that 10 SunPayus, try, and degster have not played many tier 1 events this year, so I feel like that argument is pretty flimsy, but maybe based on recent performance you could try to do that for degster and MAYBE SunPayus, but basically zero evidence to suggest try is even a fully capable tier 1 AWPer. Arguable for those 2, but at least -1 makes that 9. Saffee and m0nesy both do look way better than broky to the eye test, but in reality they both play easier opponents on average and still have worse stats than broky. Saffee especially has been rough. You could argue m0nesy is dragged down by his team while broky is carried. But -1 for saffee makes that 8. S1mple, sh1ro, and Zywoo are obviously better than broky. S1mple and Zywoo for their skill and stats, and sh1ro because he’s just a better version of broky. Syrson looks better but has worse stats lately, but is on a significantly worse team. Torszi is on a worse team but has much better stats vs surprisingly good opponents. So, the most AWPers you can reasonably put above broky is more than 5, but definitely less than 15. I’d say: S1mple Zywoo sh1ro Syrson Degster Torszi SunPayus M0nesy Maybe saffee
2022-07-21 15:51
2 replies
"every measurement" is not very specific i guess :D Well, you are giving too much credit to stats, which could and usually is very misleading. For example: Acording to stats Twistzz was awful player in 2020 and somehow get so much better by joining faze? Did he grind 60 hours a day to get better? No, he was always that good. Best way and worst also to determine skill of a player is eye test. Stats are so much affected by performance of the team, by position and roles that the player is playing, thats why eye test is a better choice to evaluate players skill. Its also worst because it depends only on the observer. So why i think broky isnt better than most of the players i wrote: Well to me awper is playing the most important weapon in game and should be the playmaker in the game. The person who dictate the pace of the game. Person who is threat to the enemies on every position possible (be unpredictable). Those things are exactly what broky is missing. Broky is often more like anchor with awp, he is very passive when playing awp on T side - waiting to catch the rotation offguard. Dont get me wrong, he is skilled, barely miss a shot (which should be standard in supreme, cant understand, why there are players like Junior), he is great with a rifle(thats something i dont care about when comparing awpers tbh) and he is good with his clutches. Overall he is lacking playmaking skills, playing really safe, which is great for economy and stats, but with more impactful playstyle he could make the game much more easier for his teammates, thats why i rate him so poorly
2022-07-21 18:09
1 reply
Every measurement = every stat on HLTV in this context, i suppose i could’ve said that Eye test is good to account for stat problems, but using the eye test alone is obviously extremely biased and complete nonsense. By the eye test, m0nesy hits the most crazy shots so he must be the best? No, obviously not. Anyone who uses eye test alone is insanely biased. I agree broky isn’t a playmaker, but I don’t think that’s the huge issue you’re claiming it to be. If you look at dev1ce and sh1ro, they have both been some of the greatest AWPers of their time (and all time, for dev1ce) but they also were consistent and anchor-style instead of flashy stars. I would say broky is not as good as them because they do/did make more plays, but he is still similar and clearly that style isn’t a problem. Just because his style isn’t the most popular or generally effective one does not mean he is bad, and I still believe the 9 I listed are the only current AWPers with any business being argued against broky.
2022-07-21 18:54
+1 to complete the top 10: 7. m0nesy 8. SunPayus 9. torzsi 10. Jame
2022-07-21 00:51
2 replies
+1 We did it together my friend 😃
2022-07-21 11:37
Would personally argue monesy lower but nice
2022-07-21 15:31
syrson = onliner rest of list is good
2022-07-21 00:51
2 replies
he hacks online even cadian is better on lan
2022-07-21 01:00
1 reply
no
2022-07-21 15:04
#68
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United Kingdom Tomakt1
i cant really rate sh1ro that high. yes his stats are very good but the whole playstyle of the team centres around him and enables him to perform. Even then when it counts they win cus of Ax1le
2022-07-21 01:54
2 replies
Sh1ro is a bit like dev1ce in that sense, but he’s still obviously a top 5 AWPer even if he doesn’t look as flashy as even AWPers like syrson or degster. Just like dev1ce people get mad that sh1ro gets kills cause people walk into his crosshair, but if there wasn’t skill involved then everyone would do what sh1ro does
2022-07-21 15:32
1 reply
#167
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United Kingdom Tomakt1
im not saying skilless. Im saying his playstyle influences the whole ability of the team and their playstyle. I have no doubt hes a good awper but i would probably rank zywoo and degster better than him
2022-07-22 01:27
solid description
2022-07-21 01:57
#72
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Brazil guidbe
Is Junior playing fortnite?
2022-07-21 01:59
#73
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Norway r0meo
es3tag
2022-07-21 01:59
How crazy do you have to be to put names like Broky, ZywOo and degster above m0NESY? LOL Now I see you put onlinerson on this list what a joke.
2022-07-21 02:08
5 replies
Least delusional M0nesy fan
2022-07-21 02:33
2 replies
Least?
2022-07-21 11:37
1 reply
Yeah have you seen the rest of them?
2022-07-21 15:32
not crazy at all
2022-07-21 13:45
This guy’s gonna have a meltdown when he sees that syrson’s LAN impact is higher than m0nesy’s
2022-07-21 15:35
broky under zywoo and shiro will be n2
2022-07-21 02:07
1. awper in the enemy team 2. s1mple 3. ...
2022-07-21 02:33
#80
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France Gabenjaa
-1.31 rating last event with 2 loss, best rating of cologne - not perform choose one yes vita is bad right now, but zywoo is not actually
2022-07-21 02:46
1 reply
Yeah people like to say players are bad because their team isn’t performing (Zywoo, sh1ro, syrson) but then say people are good because their team is performing (broky) so it gets a little meaningless
2022-07-21 15:36
#81
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Spain Agarthax
SunPayus and OSee
2022-07-21 02:47
Osee
2022-07-21 07:32
monesy if he didnt try to flick so much
2022-07-21 08:04
1 reply
draken 2.0
2022-07-21 15:36
broky over ZywOo 0/8
2022-07-21 13:35
1. s1mple 2. sh1ro 3. ZywOo 4. syrsoN 5. degster 6. broky 7. m0NESY 8. SunPayus 9. torzsi 10. nicoodoz
2022-07-21 13:53
10 replies
Are we talking about peak performance? Its just syrson and degster being above broky is a bit confusing unless you mean skill ceiling, because broky has consistently performed pretty well while degster and syrson have had higher peaks but not as good average. But then if its peak performance you have to put zywoo above sh1ro. Also, why are people so high on SunPayus after one tier 1 event, this is like degster being called a top5 awper during the major but with event less maps to justify it. Guy is obviously good but the rest of them have just played many more maps so we don’t know if he’s consistently that good at tier 1
2022-07-21 15:39
8 replies
Degster has always destroyed broky
2022-07-21 15:55
1 reply
Degster has always destroyed broky, in the 2 total matches they ever played vs each other Broky has played better on average vs better teams, degster could probably be better if he had more time at tier 1, and like I said degster’s peak looks way higher, but for avg performance this year it just doesn’t make sense because of degster’s lack of playing
2022-07-21 15:58
Of course we're not talking about peak performance, these are the best awpers atm, so basically last 3 months or so. I mean that's what the thread is about "current top awp player". And I'm not high on anyone, i'm looking at the stats and they tell me, that SunPayus is the 8. best awper rn, i mean tell me who's better then?
2022-07-21 16:07
5 replies
The stats also tell you SunPayus only played one big event, and for the rest of 3 months was farming lower tier teams. If you said best AWPers at Cologne sure, but comparing a guy with one tier 1 event to people who have played multiple doesn’t make much sense unless you mean “right now” like “this tournament” or maybe “this past month”
2022-07-21 16:32
4 replies
still waiting for you to name better awpers than him rn
2022-07-21 16:37
1 reply
Honestly i guess i thought u were the other guy or something, SunPayus #8 isn’t so crazy. I’d put torszi above him due to torszi playing harder teams imo. I forgot how few good AWPers there are compared to good teams
2022-07-21 16:48
Sunpayus played EPL too and had high ranking there too, and you can see the stats against top 20 teams in 2022 and Sunpayus is still there on the top, so the farming lower tier excuse doesn't really work there, of course I'm a little biased but stats say so
2022-07-21 16:38
1 reply
Yeah nvm SunPayus #8 really isn’t that crazy, i forgot half of the top 15 doesn’t have a great awper
2022-07-21 16:49
Torszi is better than monesy
2022-07-24 00:45
Broky is fantastic at his role, but it's not high-impact AWPing. It seems like you're counting team achievements as well? In which case Broky makes sense, but on an individual level I don't think he's better than Zywoo or Sh1ro
2022-07-21 13:55
6 replies
#100 this is most accurate list of best individual awpers imo
2022-07-21 13:58
5 replies
I think putting Syrson and Degster above Broky is a bit uncharitable, he's not a high-impact AWPer but I think he fills his role better than either of the others Maybe their ceiling is higher, but I think a consistent 1.15-1.20 rating player > inconsistent 1.25-1.30 rating player
2022-07-21 15:46
4 replies
+1. Consistency is always better than getting 1.35 rating one map and then disappearing on the other. That is why I also rate broky higher than syrsoN at the moment, despite being a huge syrsoN fan
2022-07-21 16:04
sorry bro, i believe statistics and actually when you do look at the statistics and not just keep living in your own imaginary world, then you would realize that syrsoN is actually consistent even with a way worse team that hasn't really achieved anything big. Last 3 months about same amount of maps played: syrsoN 71,9% of maps with 1.0+ rating broky 70.7% this even tho BIG have won 49.1% of their maps last 3 months while FaZe has won 67.2% Also saying that broky is a "consistent 1.15-1.20 rating player" is just bs lets be honest. He's only had a 1.15+ rating at Roobet Cup. And 1.07 at the Blast Premier Spring Finals and 1.06 at IEM Dallas. Doesn't really back up your claim. This all being said, syrsoN isn't more consistent than broky i don't think, but looking at his stats, he has worse rating overall, but much higher against the best opponents compared to broky. Also taking in count his team, i think it's more impressive than broky with FaZe. This shows to me that syrsoN is individually better than broky atm and an perform on a high level without having his teammates doing well.
2022-07-21 16:22
2 replies
I'll agree with a lot of what you said, but there's a couple things I have issue with "He has a worse rating overall but much higher against the best opponents" In 2022 Broky has a 1.20 rating against top-5 teams (31 maps played), whereas Syrson has a 1.13 rating against top-5 teams (20 maps played). Broky is substantially better against better teams than both Syrson, and his average (1.17 rating in 2022) From what I can see when I compare the two across the year, Syrson is only better in impact rating and that's it. Every other statline Broky is slightly outperforming, among every level of team (top-5, 10, 20, 30) I'm addition, Syrson has muuuuuch higher amount of maps played against teams outside of the top-20 compared to broky. In 2022, Broky has played 12 maps with teams outside the top-20 (96 against top-20 teams, 108 overall played) Compare that to Syrson, who has played 36 maps with teams outside the top 20. Three times as much! (69 maps inside the top-20, 105 overall)
2022-07-21 18:12
1 reply
SyrsoN is overrated AF. He is top 10 AWP but nowhere close to top5 especially on LAN. He is a nethero
2022-07-24 00:43
#103
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Georgia g3ks1
sh1ro >>> zywoo >>> broky - broky avarage stats and impact as a sniper, on katowice he was insane, but after it he became like guardian in second half 2018, he did he job well, he is good, but cant be compared with zywoo and sh1ro. s1mple is insane, and ofc now top1, but he is little bit loosing his stats, i mean epl - insane, major - avarage (for him), blast - insane, cologne - close to insane before final, but in final he was like bruh. I think he reach top1 this year, but in next it will be huge concurent for top1. Zywoo can finally get normall team. Cloud9 finally finds new player, instead hobbit or interz. I mean hobbit was insane, but became very avarage player, interz is good, but worse much worse then perfecto, maybe if s1mple leave navi, mix navi and cloud9: Perfecto - sup sh1ro - awp elec -cap/entry Ax1le - he can easy play b1t's role b1t - same, b1t can easily play on b1t's role IF game doesnt go, then elec goes to passive role, ax1le or b1t to his entry role and everything cool. With coach like Blad3 this roster can be easy top1/2, i mean right now with stand-in navi and faze looked one aim level, but this roster is much better navi;s current roster (comparing aim), if chemistry in team works and player will find this wave ez top.
2022-07-21 14:09
2 replies
Yeah you can see sh0ro > ZywOo as he got absolutely mauled by ZywOo on the AWP each times these teams collided on LAN in the last 2 years
2022-07-24 00:42
1 reply
2022-07-24 00:59
#104
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Palestine llihxelF
no hades = 🤡 list
2022-07-21 14:10
1 reply
He is barely top 15. He is ENCE's main liability, any -hades +top 10 awper would improve them instantly and a top 3-5 awp would put them in contention for tournaments wins
2022-07-24 00:40
Ok
2022-07-21 14:14
Theres only one player without any doubts and its kennyS
2022-07-21 15:26
Zywoo destroys broky with his eyes closed
2022-07-21 15:53
0/8 nt but Junior >>>>>
2022-07-21 16:02
sh0ro XD
2022-07-21 16:39
1 s1mple 2 zywoo 3 shiro 4 broky 5 degster 6 syrson
2022-07-21 16:40
1 reply
This is one of the most accurate ones in this thread.
2022-07-24 00:38
#149
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Norway Snaids
1 junior Rest mad cuz bad
2022-07-21 16:41
whoever puts anybody else over s1mple/zywoo is just delusional and plays valorant prob, broky ? he has 1,01 impact dude while his team is winning everything and don t tell me he doesn t play best positions. hltv.org/stats/players/7998/s1mple?start.. - s1mple 1,31 rating 1,40 impact yea i know is not pure awp but those are the stats. hltv.org/stats/players/11893/zywoo?start.. - zywoo 1,22 rating 1,25 impact even at his lowest peak he still have better stats than broky in a losing team. hltv.org/stats/players/18053/broky?start.. - broky 1,17 rating and 1,07 impact.
2022-07-21 16:49
So with yekindar in roster oSee started to grind his skill so maybe with help of experienced player who can give him some advices he can be one of the best, maybe on broky's level.
2022-07-21 17:04
Too much Monesy hate in this thread, he is a great AWPer definitely in the top 10 nowadays
2022-07-21 17:05
1 reply
Definitely way better than farLUL I think torszi is better than him though
2022-07-24 00:36
device best awp of 2022 change my mind
2022-07-21 19:02
Junior
2022-07-22 02:06
Katowice broky can go head to head with simple but normal broky would not beat shiro. As for zywoo he is the 2nd or 3rd best awper .
2022-07-22 09:28
I think Sunpayus also has a shot. Also, we saw too little of Degster for me to feel entirely confident.
2022-07-22 16:39
3 replies
SUNPAYUS is a noobstomper. That's great in it's own ways. like sh1ro. (i mean sh1ro is more than that. but still. mostly sh1ro is a noobstomper) just hit all the 7/10 shots. some 10/10. mfs like s1mple, zywoo hits all the 9/10 shots. and most of the 10/10
2022-07-22 16:45
2 replies
For a team that comes out of a place where the CS scene barely exists, I think someone that consistently hits those 7/10 and 8/10 shots, and some 10/10 shots, is great. Not everyone is the next Simple or Zywoo, but that does not mean they are not great players in their own regard.
2022-07-22 16:50
1 reply
yes yes. Im not saying sunpayus is bad either. I think we on same page. just not "current top awp player" as the title says
2022-07-22 17:26
mf put syrson above degster?
2022-07-22 16:44
monesy, sunpayus, torzsi and cadian?(have no idea which of awpers deserves a 10th place)
2022-07-22 16:55
#181
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United States Topher
GoatSee #1 you’re all delusional
2022-07-22 17:19
#184
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Vietnam El0nMusk
1/ sh1ro (stand still)=s1mple (+1) 2/zywoo (+1)=broky (+2) 3-->10: don't know much
2022-07-22 17:46
Woxic
2022-07-22 18:24
Me
2022-07-22 19:28
S1mple Broky Sh1ro Degster - could easily move above Shiro is he does well on OG Zywoo - could be 1 but not in form and team is dogshit
2022-07-22 21:49
1 reply
Pretty good take, we align fairly well :)
2022-07-24 18:13
S1mple zywoo rest is trash
2022-07-22 23:00
#201
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United Kingdom chexsum
i best awp noob
2022-07-23 12:58
sh1ro goat
2022-07-24 00:04
i gonna comment to be more active and can post
2022-07-24 00:04
Close to no one mentionning mOnesy is hilarious. There are many CIS awpers better than farLUL btw, like xsepower. Farlig probably isn't even top 15. Mantuu and mOnesy are better him, and I'd even rank some 2d awpers as better than him with the AWP.
2022-07-24 00:35
gla1ve
2022-07-24 00:36
junior farlig woxic the true best 3 awpers in cs rn
2022-07-24 00:36
SyrsoN is big cap. He's inconsistent as hell and is really only decent online.
2022-07-24 00:38
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