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hi guys, do your countries have mandatory service, if so have you done or about to do so?
i have service next year scheduled however i believe i am exempt due to something i will not name on hltv
which is a relief as i can get to studies more focused,
however military experience would be good for the upcoming high threat of war with NK
thanks!
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yes
served in 2021 (1/21)
it was pretty shitty and i hated it, didn't really learn anything new or useful, also busted my knee in the 3rd week when i fell in an exercise and got assigned a boring job, got off in 165 days and never looked back since
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It's not for everyone. Though the culture in our army is quite shit. Didn't enjoy working with people
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yeah, it wasnt all shit though, made some friends among the way
the culture is indeed really shitty, i had diagnosed mental health issues and was on medication but because a doctor deemed me fit 4 years before i went i had to go through with it
mental health is really overlooked there and i relapsed back into my issues as well, glad i managed to stay relatively sane and got better instantly after tj0 lmao
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I thought they reapplied it didnt they?
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Sw..
"In 2017, the Swedish government decided to reactivate military conscription, referencing increased threats to national security. Beginning in 2018, over 4,000 women and men were called up for service.[1] The conscripts were chosen from a pool of approximately 13,000 young people born in 1999 to serve for 12 months"
"The Swedish Armed Forces reportedly planned to call 4,000 recruits annually for basic military training in 2018 and 2019. As the relevant age cohort was about 100,000, this meant that roughly 4% were to be enlisted"
And then they get placed in the army reserves basically.
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Oh, okay so those 4000 make the choice themselves?
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No. They get selected and called up.
If they refuse = prison or huge fine.
"Beginning in 2018, over 4,000 women and men were called up for service.".
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Lol. So fucking unfair and stupid :D
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its actually pretty funny that they do it like that
Yes* but not for everyone.
we used to have it until 1995 or smt
i wish it was still a thing, lot of beta males in italy
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no im alpha as fuck
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please dont use the word cringe, its a bannable offense
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Lmao
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"orwellwasright" obvious soy boy
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Why would you want it. You can enjoy that year. Study. So many things other than learning how to kill some other human
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We had, but it was stopped in 1997 or something like that
it was reinstated like 3 or years ago but i'm dodging to health reasons
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Because they were shams fueled by public sentiment which would waned much sooner if a draft was implemented.
Because since Vietnam there hasn't been a draft, a world war would bring it back though. So be ready, it's coming.
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do women have mandatory service or just men btw
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Just men, women can volunteer. The army wants more motivated women to join though, so they are doing marketing and branding with that in mind. The volunteer women I met in service were 10x better than some of the lazy assholes who didn't want to do it but had to. So I hope there's more women serving in the future.
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How many hot blondes volunteered during your time?
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tehre is no profit in military experience. only good thig about army is that you will understand that normal life is great and you shouldn't take it for granted
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Bad take. Maybe if you are only thinking of an infantryman in which case they still learn valuable skills, just not close to an engineer or intelligence. The military is a great place to learn skills that get you hired in the private sector when you get out. Maybe in your country this isn't the case, but it is in the US.
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dk anything about us system but anyway army can't give you anything if you have plan in your head what you want to do. if you already well-desciplined and found out what you wanna do for life, you just going to lose one year (or whatever amount in each county) of your life for questionable experience
I did my service and got a truck licence only served for a year and basically got a new profession for free
Yes most of "jobs" in the army dont benefit that much in normal life but there are a few that do
No but they are thinking about it
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Mandatory in Estonia (8 or 11 months)
I served in 2015 for 11 months (january - december), was hard, but overall a good experience. Made sergeant and infantry squad leader, lots of new buddies and new knowledge.
If you have no real reasons to not serve ( i mean medical reasons), I would say go for it.
I would recommend that type of experience to every young male, helps you grow into a man.
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What If i want to be a girl and going into service will slow down (if not ruin) my career?
Became a man? People act like kids there
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Morgons. First half year is ass but if you go further than that it becomes a lot more chill t:2/21 gonakuski
Do it, you will get paid.
No, we haven't anymore. However my father did do it in the past and he enjoyed the time there even if it was hard. Others didn't enjoy that much tho...
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Did 2 yrs in Singapore.
Was okay, not a horrible experience to be in air force.
It's more like a 8 to 5 job. But in army pretty sure it won't be as easy.
i just left the country kekw
We don't have it, but I would actually try it if it was like 6 months after/before uni or some shit. I'm not sure what benefits it would even bring, but I don't see it as negatively as most people I know.
Yes and it’s nice if you are not beta male
You will understand it when it will end
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mandatory service is a 3rd world thing with rare exceptions like finland south korea or israel
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Depends on neighborhood
Without army we were done dude
Check Greece on map
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But right now, do you really need it?
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More than anything else
As far we have Turkey next we need it
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You are both in NATO, nothing will happen anyway
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Probably you have no clue about the situation
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all the situation between you guys just looks like some loud words. If anything serious happens, US will intervene and shut both. No way they will let an inside-NATO conflict happen
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Ok we don’t need army then
No matter if Italians - Turks - Bulgarians attacked us last 100 years ...
No matter if Turkey have invade all their neighbours except us ...
Probably we will cancel army soon , Turkey is our friend
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imagine thinking any war against NATO or EU countries is possible
"past blah blah blah" who cares about past
Turkey is officially your ally btw
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Pretty silly, especially from a supposed Ukrainian to want other countries to dissolve their armies...besides it promotes discipline, exercise and organization in addition to the skills of the job. I wish the US had mandatory 1 year service or something. Too many people living in their bubbles, getting liberal arts degrees and sipping mochas to understand the dangers of the world.
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it doesn't have anything to do with me being a Ukrainian. I think I've already stated in *maybe* some other thread that mandatory service is good for the state but bad for people. It's none of your business where others live and what they are doing. You want to have discipline and organisation in your life - go and sign the contract for a few years. If someone doesn't need it - no way you should force him, he doesn't owe you anything
about Ukrainian part again,
1) did I say that Greece should "dissolve their army"? Nope, they should turn it into a professional full-time army. Having massive conscript armies simply doesn't make sense for NATO countries. Quality > quantity
2) We (Ukraine) aren't protected at all, basically surrounded by 1 big aggressive enemy. We don't have any guarantees, real alliances etc. Basically like Israel. Greece is a member of the biggest military alliance in the world. Who tf will even think about attacking them. That guy is just a delusional nationalist who should've been born like 150 years ago
3) Here usually the best soldiers are volunteers, who weren't mobilised against their will. Soldier who doesn't want or simply can't fight is nothing more than cannon fodder. And we don't lack manpower, we lack equipment.
War isn't about human numbers anymore, it's about technology. Unless you are going to have a total ww3 across the globe but nothing will help in that case anyway
history will always repeat itself so yes it makes sense to look at the past
You are the one attacked Turkey
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Ofc like Iraq, Syria, Cyprus, Libya etc etc
Poor Turkey
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battle of 1922 remembered as Turkish War of Independence not Greek War of Independence
Yeah, and all these 3 have some obvious reasons for it
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Going army doesn’t mean you are alpha
Going army means you are not Beta.
That’s all
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No but they should
Yes and it makes a lot sense considering our neighbors
But I'm not going there anytime soon cuz of studies, and tbh I consider it a waste of time for me (I'm not into all these stuff, someone may like it tho)
nop, all we have to do here is hang around a military base for a day while they show us some equipment and weapons and listen to one representative of each the main branches of the military (army, air force and navy) talk about their service and then we go home and never think about the military ever again
no, but they're pushing for it at the moment, next year it's gonna be elective, and "later" mandatory. hopefully i'll be out of this shithole by then, but I wouldn't mind going to the boyscouts for a few months if I have nothing better to do (not a full fucking year though)
eng.lsm.lv/article/society/defense/latvi..
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Hypothetical: Russia invading, cry for your bigger neighbors to help like a bitch instead of defending your country. You're a model citizen truly.
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I don't like my country, if Russia invades I will happily become a refuge in a more advanced and warmer European country. But even if it won't, I won't be here long.
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sometimes u are called sometiems u are not but who cars
btw is there a cs community in korea?
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its 2022, this isnt 1965
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Here there is obligatory army duty, either you can go for 6 months or you pay 80k-90k Turkish Lira and go there for 21 days. I have been in army duty for 6 months between September 2021- March 2022. Worst 6 month of my life. I was in Cyprus and resources were limited. No hot water or drinkable water, shitty places to sleep + we have been super close to Cypriot Greek border. I wouldn't recommend anyone to go army duty. If you have any other chance, please just take it.
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We don't have it but I think we should. I kinda regret not joining when I was younger. I feel like the USA is getting too soft now with everyone getting offended so easily over stuff that doesn't relate to them and then people getting canceled for dumb stuff. Even if it was for 6 months or 1 year I feel like it would be beneficial and maybe we wouldn't have so much obesity also.
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In Brazil we are obliged to enlist in the army.
In my case, i just remember we singing the national anthem, then we were directed to open cabins where we were supposed to take off our clothes and just stay in our underwear. A doctor would come to check on everyone by asking questions and at the end of the questions he would ask if you wanted to serve in the army. I said no and then i was not recruited.
There are cases where you are recruited even if you say no, but i think nowadays most are volunteers
no but I wish we did, would do the generation some good
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You're against it because you won't be able to play your games in the next few months and it would kill you instead of a bullet.
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Yes
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you have learned wrong; at least, this is not applicable in India. Let me give you an example.
Agniveer was announced in June, and by the end of July, 10,000 WOMEN had registered. You can imagine the number of men who have registered. Most of them are from well-to-do families.
Unlike most European countries, our military sees action, and many lose their lives on the battlefield.
One can only get into NDA (National Defense Academy) only if he/she is not only smart but also physically fit; that's the by-default requirement.
Now tell me, if someone is smart, he/she can easily make a good amount of money in today's world; why join NDA? This is only because we love our country, period. I would have joined agniveer myself but couldn't because of my age.
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no worries bro, if you ever get invaded by North Korea, send the BTS army, those fat fangrill will overrun the tanks easily.
The pinnacle of 21st century mobile warfare
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here in the west, there are a lot of BTS weird fan girls, they are usually fat and anti-social
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plus they call themselves the ''BTS ARMY''
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The fat ones are VERY BIG, those bitches could easily eat a T-34, don't underestimate the ARMY
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ngl, your friend probably got baited
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that's kinda weird, usually, Turks portray themselves as sigma strong males, and that thing sounds incel-ish.
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nvm my bad, yeah you found one of them damn
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Dude WHAT, hate you Israeli lucky bastard, stop flexing your hot grills in our poor mortal faces
Here they are WEIRD AF, those psycho looking ass
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No we don't have. Our kids these days would cry about it because they think it's the militaries job to defend our country. Only them. Period.
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no, thankfully the draft hasn't been used in decades. i'd boycot any draft anyways.
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True, better sit in your moms basement with cheeto-stained boxers.
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interesting thought process
We do but it's really shit.
In Denmark, once you turn 18 you get a letter that says you have to come for a check-up, to see if you're fit for the military. I turned 18 in December 2019 and got my letter and appointment scheduling. No suprise as with everything at that time it got canceled due to covid.
I'm now 20 years of age and haven't heard a word from them, restrictions are long gone seems they just forgot about my generation or at least me lol
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we had to go to the army even with all the restrictions
lmao nice
No because there have always been a good turnout of men enlisting because of how big the population is
Plus we have one of the strongest militaries in the world! Pakistan Zindabad 😍
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Well yeah it's to make sure that IF there ever is an attack or a declaration of war between the two countries, Pakistan should be ready to fight
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Yea it is good, these day zoomer lacks nationalism
18 to 27 men should check up and if you're healthy you will be enlisted unless half-a-year-quota has been reached. but you can dodge it easily enough (i.e. allergy to fish or slight heart problems etc)
also you can go straight for a contract but that'll mean you can end up in some other country
yes we have 6 months and i kinda support it
dodged it by having cancer
I'm fine now btw
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currently serving, 5 weeks done 130/315 days left
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yea i know, not too gonahtanut yet at least
Same, 130 days left and waiting for vala rn
I was in the IDF for 2 years and 8 months as a spearhead machinegunner in the paratroopers including 8 months in a special forces team, I took part in the May Operation last year.
Military service sucks ass it’s not fun you are miserable it creates a ton of pressure on your life but it builds character and you meet a lot of great people. It was hell for its all duration but I’m glad I did the service I did.
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By the way the recruitment rules are: every person has to serve after turning 18 unless they volunteer for a year, have some sort of terminal disease or any severe disability. Arabs and ultra orthodox are exempt but can volunteer. Generally if you are physically healthy you will be sent to a combatant rule and if not a supportive role (called a “job”)
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We can choose between 6 months military and 9 months social service. Obviously went for the social service so I at least did something useful
It's great. You learn discipline, multiple real life skills and working as a team with a bunch of different people, greatly developing social skills that you retain for the rest of your life.
Many, many successful, self-made people were in the army for that exact reason.
useless its a waste of time :
most people there are unintelegent degenerates, and if your smart you will find the whole thing so annoying and worthless esp the money part which youd make 10x more working regular job
the only good aspect of it is if your a complete pussy and a fuck up that is lazy, doesnt know how to keep himself and his enviroment clean and is week minded they will shape you to be a better version of yourself and have a tougher mentality, but as i said if your not that then its such a waste of time
Why would I like to get orders from a peasant who thinks he is superior? I narrowly avoided army as I went for compulsory enrollment but they scraped it later. So I had to go for tests, including IQ ones. Got 59 out of 60, highest in the county in the last 3 years. They came and asked me to join them. I said no. Still happy I said no. I'm a peaceful guy, never fought in my life, never been beaten. It's all in communication. Blood draws more blood. Simple
Yea. Was there for few moths left cuz my health went down after corona. I'm going back in few years tho.
If I go to do my master's (business) abroad I won't serve tho
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I was there, and was going to serve 1 year. Got corona and my health went bad. Then got into university, and im going to do bachelor's degree before i go back. My studies are going well, and if i can do my masters abroad get job from the states im not going back to army for the reason that im going to move to different country so there is no benefit to serve.
yes
No, so glad I don't live in a country with mandatory military service kek
My country will explode with a civil war, against socialist-communist people who want to take private industries and farms. My family have a medium meat business and farm, so i only prepare myself shooting with a scoped rifle at different ranges, clean my gun, and run a couple km with 15kg equipment, just for healthy reasons but indirectly preparing myself for the civil war upcoming in a few years
I liked it. Had a lot of things rethink here, difficult conditions relied on me in a best way possible and I finally started seeing value in my life
I will fight on North Korea's side, just so you know. See you on the battlefield!
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