i can assure you this is the right place to ask question like that
2022-08-04 22:02
Dont try to force a one sided relationship; she's being clear she doesnt want to date (you, or anyone for that matter)
That being said, if you like her as friends too, just become good friends and maybe one day. Dont stay friends JUST to get a chance to get into a relationshp either, though
2022-08-04 22:03
"she can offer friendship only"
offer xd
2022-08-04 22:03
Those type of girls are mostly ungrateful you do good things for them for years and then one wrong suddenly everything is wrong .
2022-08-04 22:03
If she doesnt start atleast 40% of conversations on average then just accept she's not interested, and even if she were, you shouldn't settle for someone who doesnt even put in effort you know.
2022-08-04 22:03
dw there's other girls out there, you cant really do much if the feeling ain't mutual.
2022-08-04 22:04
Why are you asking us? Go figure it out yourself
2022-08-04 22:04
idk from what you wrote she made everything so clear
2022-08-04 22:04
You could take a way slower approach be supportive be there for her, cure her depressions and then marry her ez win
2022-08-04 22:04
your rizz is shit you need to manipulate her beacuse she is depressed but you are not able to do it unlucky
2022-08-04 22:05
she either doesn't like you or she is literally telling the truth, when you are depressed you don't have time, energies and dedication for a relationship.
2022-08-04 22:05
Why would she go on a date with you if she does not want to be gf?
Maybe it wasn't a date to her but to you only?
Also, if she said no, it's a no mens)
Go find a different fish in the ocean.
If you're really that desperate, then talk to her as a friend, don't act desperate and mssg her everyday.
Soon hopefully she starts liking you
Good luck mens
2022-08-04 22:07
idk bro, not worth it I guess
2022-08-04 22:07
Watching movies on discord is the most zoomer thing I have ever witnessed in my life (after tiktok ofc)
2022-08-04 22:08
Just a bogus excuse move on
2022-08-04 22:10
bro text her once. If she replies u gonna tell her exactly what u wanna tell her and if she keeps her opinion about she cant because depression just skip her. Lots of Girls out there dont go straight for that one whos not giving u the attention u give.
Gl bro
2022-08-04 22:13
"I later tell her after second "date" that I'm open for more than friendship she said she can't cuz of depressions" nt if she doesnt have someone in mind or she still with her ex she wouldnt say that instead would go for it
sadly u get cucked or brozone or friendship rip she still want someone else
2022-08-04 22:14
she probably doesn't like you or doesn't know how to express that she does, since the former is possible (and probable imo) you should avoid trying to start any romantic relationship with her. if you end up friends who talk frequently you can figure out the rest on your own if you still want to by then. have to warn everyone i see going for this kind of girl though, as they're not stable and you're dating them at your own risk. you never know if she might just end up not having the same emotive capacity she did when you first started dating, you get your feelings hurt, and split off and end up sad.
2022-08-04 22:14
you should probably just be there for her as a friend at first and help her get over her depression. she might appreciate it and maybe after you can grow into a couple, or maybe not.
2022-08-04 22:16
Well, as others suggested, you shouldn't force anything if she said she doesn't want to be with you. However, if you still enjoy talking w/ her etc keeping her as a friend is a good idea, and maybe one day she will be into you (but don't stay only for that)
2022-08-04 22:22
the best advice here is not to think about girls in school. it will ruin your life later.
random sex is okay. love and relationships at an early age are a big risk. like big.
Find another girl and don't worry about it. don't let her into your head.
its in womens nature to get inside a mans head and take control. its ok when u r not that young
2022-08-04 22:27
Bro depression doesn't stop you from dating someone... she's either really fucked because of depression, or she's lying to you...
2022-08-04 22:30
Nice story but sadly I’m lonely so can’t help you
2022-08-04 22:34
Virgin Gold Novas happy to help :D
2022-08-04 22:40
welcome to the friendzone, if you got friendzoned her message is clearly that she doesn't see you as a partner also ask yourself do you really wanna be someone with depression? (don't think with your dick try using some brain)
she clearly stated that she doesn't want to start a relationship with you, so you have 3 options:
1) waste your time trying to be a 'friend' waiting for the 'right' moment to start a relationship that can never happen
2) if you haven't sex yet (I assume you didn't coz she wants to be just a friend with you) then you can try for a bit getting her in the bed, if she denies you just carry on and find another girl, if you had sex with her just meet her for sex sometimes and enjoy the process, but keep looking for a relationship (if that's what you want) one day you will meet a girl that will love you
3) just stop writing to her if she wants to write she will (don't be annoying with you messages it's the worst thing), but she will do that mostly when she needs help or just bored and wants to chat basically use you when she wants - show less and less interest to her and find someone who cares about you - be happy
2022-08-04 22:45
Maybe you can settle for friends w benefits?
2022-08-04 22:42
first off, pics or it never happened
2022-08-04 22:43
Move on. If a girl isn't interested and is keeping you in the friends zone, she has all the power over you. Move on and keep your dignity, you will thank me in the long run.
Guys who pretend to be friends with girls who friend zoned them are pathetic, sad losers. The end.
2022-08-04 22:45
try to be more attractive and taller next time
2022-08-04 22:52
didnt read the whole thing but i suggest you start reading some Dan Bilzerian or Andrew Tate, these are intellectual giants in the dating game and from them you can get the confidence to actually approach a girl and not watch movies over discord while being afraid to meet them irl
2022-08-04 22:54
bro, you definetely should wait, she has to show some interest in you, if she won't, just forget her.
2022-08-04 22:56
how the hell do you watch movies on discord??
2022-08-04 23:06
Dont talk to her problem solved
2022-08-04 23:06
Most sensible decision is to move on, do not become overly invested and find someone else. You will only be disappointed and sexually frustrated when she treats you like a friend forever.
Why would she go on "dates" with you? Because she is feeling depressed. Her therapist is probably telling her that she needs to find friends, and she sees going on these "dates" as a method of making a friendship with you. She is putting in the effort while depressed because she wants friends to offset her depression, there is nothing deeper than that here.
2022-08-04 23:13
wait she will come if she want but keep talking to her not alot but like normal level ukranian speech.
2022-08-04 23:08
Mensss same thing happened to me. Don't waste your time, move foward.
2022-08-04 23:14
Mens don't listen to the people here haha. Go ask someone else than all the virgins (me included) and additionally the incels here. Maybe find some real people to talk to friends, maybe if you like talking to parents about this kind of thing idk.
2022-08-04 23:20
i had same situation 3 years ago, glad we didn't continue
2022-08-04 23:26
Millions of girls at your age in the world, but you're wasting your time and energy to save some depressed girl, are u ok? Find a better girl, if you need someone or better spend your time to improve yourself.
And yeah, something from my experience. I dated and married a depressed girl, so please stay away from depressed people. There's nothing worse than
a dating person who does not love and respect himself.
2022-08-04 23:32
push harder or just move on
but strange place to ask
2022-08-04 23:31
if a girl says "don't do it I'm going to hurt you" then she will, your proper action is to back the fuck off and find your self a girl who respects you
2022-08-04 23:38
kinda the reason i'm not looking for a relationship any time soon(still living in a shithole, tho i will move to city in one year and i can't even get my own life straight at the moment), i just go to gym and work on myself not trying to find anybody, i do have a crush on a girl but me being an introvert and the things i said earlier makes me not do anything about it, maybe i will regret that in the future but i'm almost 100% that at my current state and life situation any relationship wouldn't work/ last too long, anyway bro keep it chill and don't take it too personally, just work on yourself and be there for this girl if she ever needs you
2022-08-04 23:56
hey, men, she sounds like a chill girl, but I would just move on. The problem with what I'm seeing is that you are putting in a lot of effort (paying for the full meals, taking her out places) and she still doesn't see you more than a friend. Relationships should have an equal effort from both sides, I just think she is lonely so she wants someone to talk to (that's why she texts you more than 1 word).
I wouldn't force this relationship, she might even trauma dump on your in the future about her depression or bad things in the past. You are in Ukraine, TONS of good looking girls man.
2022-08-05 00:16
you lose when u put her on a pedestal
always make yourself look cool man...]
i'd be depressed too if i was living next to putin
2022-08-05 00:18
You gotta step up your dick game my mens, and make her choose you instead of another mens- average hltv user advice
2022-08-05 00:24
I'd just let it go, if you want to keep being friends with her regardless then cool, but otherwise just let it go.
it's probably for the better for you too, as a depressive girl is not fun.
2022-08-05 00:24
I would leave her be or ask is she wants casual sex
2022-08-05 00:24
If she's not invested enough to text you first, then don't waste your time or thought on it. If she does text at some point, just be normal. don't be invested and chase her, let her fall for you instead if you still like her. and if she wants to be a friend as she claims, don't waste money on her, tell her its 50/50
2022-08-05 00:26
I usually have sex on the first few dates and that's because i am very attractive.
Sorry to break it for you, but i think you aren't her type.
2022-08-05 00:27
At this point I would just be friends, and let her take the initiative on becoming more than friends. She knows what you think of her and she will get back to you if she still likes you when she wants a boyfriend.
2022-08-05 00:30
just be there as a friend, don't overreach, just let her be but don't be absent, go for a drink sometimes, a meal, whatever, talk about whatever, maybe you get to know her better and maybe it works, or maybe you realize that you don't like her that much, or maybe you know someone else, who cares, the thing is, if she was honest enough to tell you about her issues, you need to respect that and give her time and space, if it doesn't work out, well that's life
2022-08-05 00:33
You made stride steps since the last time we talked, what happened, who breathed confidence in you?
2022-08-05 00:39
When you chase women, you lose money, when you chase money, women follow.
2022-08-05 00:48
try to wait for her outside late night and drag her to the bushes to talk
2022-08-05 02:19
Stop asap, from personal experience.
2022-08-05 11:02
you should say to her that you can cure her depression
2022-08-05 11:04
She said that she isn't ready for relationship time to move on.
2022-08-05 11:05
She is depressive , she plays Valorant , She is a ONE
2022-08-05 11:08
If she isn't giving you anything to work with and you've been the one to start conversations and dates etc then don't waste your time mate. That sounds like the beginning of a toxic relationship and having no relationship is better than that, trust me. Relationships are a two way street, both people have to give effort and try to make it work... not just the male. Yet these days the males are expected to do everything. You'll become sad and upset because your efforts are not being matched and she's not thankful for your effort. Relationships can be hard work, it's like starting a fire for example with bad tools. Yet imagine putting in loads of hard work and money into something that gives you no results, that's what that woman is.
2022-08-05 11:24
if you clearly wanna date her being just friends is bad for both of you
just say i like you too much to be just friends so i cant be talking to you if you see me just as a friend
best thing to do is drop it it will hurt you and her to keep this up when both of you have different views on this
2022-08-05 11:33
Tell her depression is a meme then she will be cured instantly. No need to thank me mens))
2022-08-05 11:36
say yo bro I got depression too let's suffer together
2022-08-05 11:40
she's your classmate dude.. that's not usually how things happen.. although i know people who have gotten together even though they are classmates... you did get some good advices in this thread though...
2022-08-05 11:46
If she is not the girl of your life (and it doesn't seem so from your description) it is way easier to find a more interested and ready for a relationship girl than to fix one with which you already had a "bad" start.
Fact that you are always the one starting convo explains a lot about how unbalanced the relationship already is. Go away and find someone else, as you seem still young.
Sorry for being brutally honest, just hoping that I can save you some time
2022-08-05 11:48
Dont be beta orbiter. She have someone other than you. Just dont talk to her anymore.
2022-08-05 11:50
if you like her or care about her, tell her that you can give the time she needs for a relationship. And help her to get thru her problems with your support. With there for her.
Btw people here are mostly toxic and dumb, this is not quite the right place to ask a question like that.
Take care, brother.
2022-08-05 11:52
So this girl said to you several times - because you couldn't somehow accept the first no - that she is not interested in something romantically and you feel the urge to keep pushing her?
Here's something for all of you: no means no.
2022-08-05 11:54
She's already told you she wants your friendship only.
My experience is don't be clingy. Focus on yourself and self improvement. Go to the gym and do things you want to do. Take away attention from her and put it into other fun stuff. Take photos of things you do and post them on social media and if she's into you she'll get jealous of all the things she's missing out on with you and she will chase you. Women are hunters, don't chase them let them chase you
2022-08-05 12:03
never date a depressed girl with mental problems, they are completely crazy
edit: and stay safe my guy
2022-08-05 12:08
"She after the date writes me that she can offer friendship only."
Hell nah, it started so well );
2022-08-05 14:45
Move on asap, she is just a women amongst billions of others, you'll find another one preferably not depressed.
2022-08-05 14:47
go for it mens
she is already sad and if you ditch her right now you are going to upset her more
give it some time and if nothing changes then you move on
2022-08-05 14:58
From my experience with crazy/shy/depressive/passive girls - they are evil. Especially those, who feel you, who know how to play on the strings of your soul, stuff like that, you can write a cool manipulative quote yourself.
Play passive. Try to predict whether she's into you or she's just using you. Think for yourself, my man, there's not really much you can do right now.
2022-08-05 15:09
Stopped reading after "we watched 2 movies on discord"
2022-08-05 15:29
in brazil first date equals sex u dumb europeans Just fuck
2022-08-05 16:15
She is not interested, if she was then she wouldn't make excuses.. She appreciates free meals tho
2022-08-05 16:20
Stay by her side. Be a Great friend. If it was meant to be she'll be yours when she's ready. But if what she needs right now is a friend u need to be a genuine friend not always tryna get in her pants or w/e.
2022-08-05 16:40
dude,
go on living your life, try to help her in any way you can and be by her side when she needs support. if it is to be it will be
2022-08-05 16:54
I mean if you want her to avoid you, then you continue pressuring her. She's already told you she's not interested in anything deep, so the more you pressure her, the more she goes away.
Depression means she can't love herself right now. Anyone who can't love themselves can't love anybody else either. Maybe with time you might become something together, but right now is not the time.
2022-08-05 17:08
I've dated a girl that had these kinds of problems too (actually worse since she was also a victim of torture, kidnapping, sexual assault and rape). First, try to really know what you actually feel for her, because it is not an easy road to be in. Then, if you really like her, you need to be there for her and let her know that you'll be there for her when she needs you. If she's crying, you'll be there to wipe off her tears and hug her until she's ok. If she's angry for seemingly no reason, you'll not argue with her for pride. From what you've told, it looks like she likes you as a person, so she doesn't want you receiving the bad feelings she keeps for herself. So think if she is really special for you to have anything more than a friendship with her, ask God for advice 'cause He will advise infinitely better than anyone could, and be decisive, because she's special in a way that she'll need to be comforted and nurtured more than most people. May God guide you through this journey and be with you both, my friend.
2022-08-05 17:14
If she doesn’t want any more from it you shouldn’t force it, because even if you’d get together it’s always gonna feel off + won’t last long if she’s not equally committed.
But it’s your call to make man, I can only give you my perspective.
2022-08-05 17:32
let her go. then make her realize you were the best option and let her chase you. im literally a expert on this trust me.
2022-08-05 17:36
There are so many things you could do,
If you're so desperate or she's the one, then push it and cure this depression.For 17yo depression is usually mind developing different things,feelings which they don't know , so it would be done within months(from personal experience)
Or wait till she pushes to you, sit back do you work don't waste any time thinking about her ,if you think she's not the one.
Also be careful don't turn this into bad experience/trauma for you.If you're too confused sometimes doing nothing is better.
2022-08-05 17:41
My guess is you should move on, but you could still be supportive with her, good friends with here if you are up to it.
2022-08-05 18:16
update, decision made:
She doesnt show any interest. Twice in a chat told her to msg me again if she wants to meet after her vacation, left on read. let's see if she will reply after her holiday but i doubt it. Mentally i already gave up and i won't text her again, indoubt that inwould show up on a 3rd meet
2022-08-05 22:59
Go to a date with someone else or say that you are thinking of going. Talk about this to the depressed girl. See her reaction. You will see if she thinks more than friend of you.
2022-08-05 23:08
When a girl tells you you aren't the problem, most likely you are the problem, don't know a lot but have some previous experience
2022-08-06 19:17
trust me you dont want a depressed gf who doesnt want you. move on & find soneone healthy who actually wants to get in your bed
2022-08-06 19:26
If you are sure she is actually depressed, make a distance and don't indulge further. However if you think she is not depressed and worth it , chase her but indirectly. If she still says the same just know that you fumbled at the start and should never had confessed early on and move on.
2022-08-06 19:32
She was as direct as possible.
She wants friendship only out of you. Why you spend so much time and energy to a girl who already told you numerous times she doesnt see you as potential boyfriend is beyond me.
You gonna get hurt soon or later if you continue chasing this girl even if you end up being her boyfriend it WONT be for long. When a girl finds you attractive and really see you as a potential boyfriend material does everything in her power to meet you and spend time with you like you do right now for her. It doesnt matter at all if she has depression yada yada.
When a girl really likes you everything is as easy as it gets. Never chase
2022-08-08 01:17
she said she doesnt want to get into a relationship
why do you want to force her into one? just stop
2022-08-08 01:09
be honest , how old are u
2022-08-08 01:14
Lets summarize what you think :
--- Shes seems interested
/// But she told you not interested again and again
--- She is in depression, that is why cant be with me
/// People in depression craving for a bf/gf. IF you were the one she would be all over you already
--- She never start conversation first, she is shy
/// She wasnt shy to go out with you and talk, theres nothing more to be shy for to say "hi"
I can continue but you get the idea ? You translate everything as you see fit not as they are
2022-08-08 10:29
girls? WAKE UP TO REALITY IMPORTANT, come on lmao smoke ct and RUSH A with ak.
It's a joke, don't worry, I wouldn't think of anything in that situation, maybe you should send the first message
2022-08-08 11:02