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Why do C9 struggle
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United States Savage_C9_Fan 
I dont get it, i expect a big turn around after player break they have the 2nd best igl (when in form, he sucked recently) the best rifler in the world in Ax1Le the 2nd best awper in the world in sh1ro a top3 lurker in the world in hobbit (in a slump rn but will bounce back) 2nd best support in the world after perfecto(or 3rd if you count twistzz) no they are not onliners, just something isnt clicking right now, and i believe its nafany, if he gets hie 2021 form back, i can see them challenge for big event wins. am i delusional or realistic?
2022-08-05 21:38
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#1
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Romania claudiu848
they are #3 lol
2022-08-05 21:38
6 replies
#11
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Finland Khroni
Off of a singular win tho Their results around that include 9-12th at Cologne 3rd at fucking Roobet Cup 1st at Dallas 12-14th at Antwerp
2022-08-05 21:42
5 replies
3rd at roobet cup isnt bad since faze (top 1) was playing there, and they had to beat top 5 team astralis, and only lost to big who won the entire event
2022-08-06 03:17
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#100
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Finland Khroni
Roobet is a huge asterisk tho Farlig was top on Astralis which tells you all you need to know about their skill this event And the other two games were against 9z and coL neither of which are exactly renowned teams
2022-08-06 07:56
3 replies
farlig is a good player, he's had strong performances on astralis and fpx though he is not always performing. If farlig/konfig plays well with blamef the team is strong af. Beating teams like 9z and astralis is pretty decent imo
2022-08-06 09:37
#147
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Denmark Saithz
blameF was top player of roobet cup nt tho
2022-08-06 22:06
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#148
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Finland Khroni
Versus Cloud9 This is a Cloud9 thread We are talking about Cloud9
2022-08-06 22:58
#2
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Estonia Hazardouz
Being behind Faze and Navi is struggling?
2022-08-05 21:39
4 replies
#44
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United States vivix
I think he is trying to say they could be more consistent because C9 shouldn't lose to teams like TL when you have the second best rifler, one of the best supports, and one of the best AWPers
2022-08-05 23:19
2 replies
TL going to end the year @ 3rd place Mark my words
2022-08-07 13:17
1 reply
#164
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Australia flashi
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2022-08-08 01:46
#101
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Czech Republic Evis1337
they aer 3rd just cuz they won dallas cuz its was a dead tournament. faze fresh major win (no one wins next event after they win major), most top10 teams had standins etc. otherwise they are like top 10
2022-08-06 07:59
#3
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Czech Republic Devidee
stopped reading at 2nd best igl
2022-08-05 21:39
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#6
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Czech Republic Devidee
i proceed to read more and realized that c9 fans did not change and still being delusional as always
2022-08-05 21:41
19 replies
Is it wrong though, please don't name people that just pull more frags as igls like hampus etc
2022-08-05 21:42
1 reply
replied to wrong person sorry
2022-08-05 21:56
how about some arguments instead of your usual insults. as far as i can tell nafany is the only igl that won a t1 event that isnt karrigan or boombl4/elec
2022-08-05 21:43
16 replies
#23
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United Kingdom mystix_08
electronic is better imo
2022-08-05 21:54
10 replies
electronic just used the same stratbook that B1ad3 gave boombl4, everyone knows he is the genius behind navi. electronic being the igl didnt change much in how they approach the game, at least from the games i've seen, hes just a way better individual player than boombl4.
2022-08-05 21:56
8 replies
#26
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United Kingdom mystix_08
but i also get the same impression of c9 tho, where i feel like groove is the guy coming up with most of the strats, tho i honestly have no idea thats just my impression and you also cant deny that electronic is leagues better individually, which is relevant if your talking about an aggressive space-creating igl
2022-08-05 22:07
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of course nafany is nowhere near elecs level in terms of skill, but when it comes to ingame calling, midgame adjustments, hyping your team up etc. i still see nafany above electronic. but that can certainly change fairly quick because elec seems very very comfortable as the igl already, and irs only been like a month or two.
2022-08-05 22:37
What even is the source of this whole Blad3 is the reason of NAVI's success lmao. This and that people say that NiKo is toxic. These two are probably the most exaggerated things in CS unless I'm wrong about Blad3.
2022-08-05 22:46
5 replies
They might be exaggerated by the community, but that doesn’t mean that they aren’t true
2022-08-06 00:10
4 replies
Doesn't mean they are true either. I haven't seen a proper source for both of these claims yet.
2022-08-06 00:12
3 replies
Well if u watch any interview of s1mple/Blade they are clearly saying that. s1mple is saying in the HLTV podcast that in praccs Blade is sometimes calling because Boombl4 is bad. The fact that NiKo is swaping IGLs like socks is a pretty big argument that he is toxic.
2022-08-06 01:26
1 reply
It was nexa's decision to no longer igl because he didn't like igling with a star in the team. Aleksi was probably benched by xtqzzz, afaik Niko didn't have any problems with him. It's just aleksi and xtqzzz have different vision of the game, and aleksi's vision didn't lead to a lot really
2022-08-06 13:23
#91
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Czech Republic czRamtin03
because everyone knows that the goat coach is blade. He was IGL himself, he is one of the guys that really use their time during timeouts well and even navi guys said that blade is beast i dont like navi that much but blade is goat
2022-08-06 03:26
nafany better because groove is recent in gambit as a coach
2022-08-06 03:25
#115
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United States Andrew2
Strat wise: Karrigan > Snappi > Hampus > nafany = electroNic > tabseN Fragging wise: electroNic > tabseN > Hampus > Snappi > nafany he’s good, but not top 3.
2022-08-06 08:55
4 replies
in what world is hampus better than nafany tactically, sorry but this is just plain wrong and there is nothing no argue about, hampus has won nothing, nafany won 7 tier1 events in his 2 years in tier1 scene.
2022-08-06 12:57
3 replies
+1, how tf would u rank hampus over nafany strat wise XDDDDD
2022-08-06 13:46
#141
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United States Andrew2
nafany has Ax1le, sh1ro, hobbit The only player who MIGHT make top 20 on Hampus’ team is Brollan.
2022-08-06 21:31
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that has nothing to do with your original point of strats, hampus is not known for his great tactical approach to the game, he is.known to be one of the best fragging igls. so your list is completely wrong and nobody will agree with you. snd yes, nafany is a top3 igl, no question anout it.
2022-08-07 13:13
nafany>aleksibot
2022-08-06 03:05
they are #3 for a reason
2022-08-05 21:40
4 replies
Yes because they won one event even though they have played poorly all season
2022-08-05 22:11
1 reply
exactly
2022-08-06 12:23
#102
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Czech Republic Evis1337
yeah cuz hltv ratings are garbage lol
2022-08-06 08:00
1 reply
exactly
2022-08-06 12:23
You’re just overreacting. They were burned out at the end and that’s it. But I also suspect they got a bit lucky at Dallas, both factors are true. They are kinda onliners, but not entirely, but they were also burned out.
2022-08-05 21:40
0/8 not the best rifle : niko, ropz, spinx not the 2nd best sniper ( zywOO OR S1mple) not the second igl not 2nd best support ( to many) NGL you're full delusionnal but a good team can be top 3-4 constant
2022-08-05 21:41
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name the players instead of just saying im wrong niko ropz and spinx all have lower rating and impact stats, ax1le is simply better this year, stop hating man. zywoo is not better than sh1ro this year, its a fact. is he the more talented player? yes, but in 2022 sh1ro has had a better year, thas not being disrespectful towards zywoo, he is insane.
2022-08-05 21:45
4 replies
Zywoo is more of a complete player imo. Ropz is in a team full of stars. Spinx < Axile. NiKo is better, but not this year in the kind of team he is in.
2022-08-05 22:48
#103
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Czech Republic Evis1337
sh1ro is not eve nclose to zywoo this year wtf you talking about... he has high rating 2.0 only because he saves every round. he wont be above zywoo in top20, they take these things into account
2022-08-06 08:01
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yeah zywoo has EVPs for Cologne, Blast Spring Finals and IEM Dallas as compared to sh1ro's only EVP for IEM Dallas.
2022-08-06 08:37
zylul cant wven win an event, the guy has an awful year and is not a top2 awper, stats prove it, achievements prove it, /closed
2022-08-06 13:00
Ax1le >>>>>>> Spinx, Ropz and it's not even close
2022-08-05 23:09
"not the 2nd best sniper ( zywOO OR S1mple)" He was talking about s1mple as first man.
2022-08-06 07:24
6 replies
#104
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Czech Republic Evis1337
s0mple getting outawped by botky every tournament.. idk
2022-08-06 08:01
5 replies
broky doesn't have the impact s1mple does. For some reason he plays really good against s1mple. I think katowice is the only tournament where broky had more than 1.10 impact. I could be wrong.
2022-08-06 08:31
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you're so biased, the only reason broky or s1mple perform "weel" it's bc of their team winning atm, zyWOo have the best rating of colgne even witn 2 loss is even more impressive imo, but yeah will see with spinx
2022-08-06 20:20
3 replies
biased?? calm down zywoo fan. I didn't say anything about zywoo.
2022-08-06 21:01
2 replies
S0mple fanboy
2022-08-06 21:03
1 reply
read the words again. I didn't say anything about zywoo. It's your choice to be a fan or to be in delusion.
2022-08-06 21:06
#8
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Brazil williamhsk1
It's a great lineup, but it's not enough to take away FaZe's hegemony
2022-08-05 21:41
#9
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Poland infamouss__
how are they struggling lmao
2022-08-05 21:42
2 replies
They are struggling, they haven't made the playoffs in 2 of the most important events this year like the major and cologne. If it wasn't for iem dallas they wouldn't even be in the top 5 currently.
2022-08-05 21:44
1 reply
major they did underperform indeed, loss against Imperial shouldn't have happened. In Cologne they were playing like they always do, but for me it feels that everyone was so focused and prepared (also with the rosters) but C9 was already on vacation then. they will play normally after break i guess if nafany does a good job as an IGL
2022-08-05 21:47
why so delusional?
2022-08-05 21:42
Maybe they need more LAN crowd experience.
2022-08-05 21:42
If Hobbit starts playing well again they'll start winning tournaments again. At the time they had 3 elite players and this season it's been only Shiro and Axile. If Hobbit can't replicate his Gambit form then interz gets kicked probably for more firepower
2022-08-05 21:43
3 replies
- Interz + SuNny (more powerfire)
2022-08-05 21:44
cloud9 need to change the roles again . the gap between ax1le&sh1ro and hobbit became to big
2022-08-05 21:44
1 reply
#112
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Australia NoLeS
+1 and HObbit plays such good positions yet he's not much better than interz individually right now let alone Ax1Le
2022-08-06 08:43
because hobbit is bot now
2022-08-05 21:43
1 reply
#113
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Australia NoLeS
+1 sadness. Age and burnout comes for us all even the cutest Kazakh man
2022-08-06 08:43
2 players in slump, let them relax and get used to the warm weather outside Russia, they're will probably come back stronger
2022-08-05 21:53
Well…. Can’t argue about Ax1le being the best rifler atm Still think sh1ro has inflated stats but yeah he probably is the nr 2 even though I don’t think its by a lot Hobbit on the other hand is debatable. Yes he was fantastic in Gambit but thats more of an outliner compared to how he usually performs. I reckon that he won’t perform as he did in gambit but just slightly better. Nafany on the other hand is extremely hard to rate since he’s really inconsistent. But I think he is a top 5 igl rather than top 3
2022-08-05 22:25
#29
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Finland Cucumber))
they should use more flashes
2022-08-05 22:26
1 reply
#74
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Slovakia AdorrioN
nt Mauisnake
2022-08-06 01:33
Maybe they just need to practice their fundamentals, their ABCs, or 123s you could say.
2022-08-05 22:36
Too much responsibility on Nafany to perform good, the fact they had both Sh1ro and Ax1Le in the top 5 rated players in the event in group stage yet didn't make playoffs says enough. Sh1ro is good but without impact from Nafany and Ax1Le he cannot solo carry games, more of a core issue with the teams system imo.
2022-08-05 22:54
i ve gotta ask, have u been like following or cheer up for them when they played under gambit tag?
2022-08-05 22:55
3 replies
i am assuming you are new to HLTV because i was/am the biggest Gambit fan this website has ever seen. I've been to two events, i have gambit merch, i fight everyone on HLTV that talks shit about gambit(now c9) players and all of this since end of 2015.
2022-08-06 01:00
2 replies
#105
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Czech Republic Evis1337
sorry to hear this
2022-08-06 08:04
u must have very high opinion of urself if u think every hltv user knows u here
2022-08-08 14:11
Delusional
2022-08-05 23:00
didnt nafany get like only 3 kills in a map once? he gotta go, even im better then him
2022-08-05 23:04
3 replies
#56
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Australia imissdevvy
0/8
2022-08-05 23:58
Every player's had a bad map before wtf
2022-08-06 01:37
1 reply
but nafany is so darn consistent at being bad
2022-08-06 11:26
nafany bad individual performance also his IGLing is carried by sh1ro (calls just as much)
2022-08-05 23:08
1 reply
Shut up, Nafany has bad stats because of this baiter Sh1ro
2022-08-06 11:57
#40
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India RycerZ
Stopped reading at best rifler.
2022-08-05 23:11
4 replies
Nicope fans still in denial, beautiful
2022-08-06 01:00
Ax1le>Niko
2022-08-06 01:01
#75
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Slovakia AdorrioN
He is tho
2022-08-06 01:35
this year, Ax1le is the best rifler and it is not even close. hltv.org/stats?startDate=2022-01-01&endD..
2022-08-06 21:35
#41
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Croatia VTZU
because they are weebs
2022-08-05 23:12
Sh1ro top2 awp - yes ax1le top1 rifler - no hobbit top3 lurker - no interz top 2 support - no nafany top2 igl - lmfaooooooo
2022-08-05 23:17
11 replies
maybe not even sh1ro top2 tbh
2022-08-05 23:18
9 replies
Delusional,axile Is top 1.rifle this year
2022-08-05 23:22
8 replies
top? you mean top1?
2022-08-05 23:23
7 replies
Yep
2022-08-05 23:23
6 replies
Ok so nafany has top2 awper and top1 rifler but cant make playoffs at major ? trash igl i guess
2022-08-05 23:24
5 replies
Idk, i think interz,Hobbit and nafany are dragging them down
2022-08-05 23:25
4 replies
hobbit definitely is 1.09 impact last 6 months and below 1 last 3 months he has bad period lets see if he finds form
2022-08-05 23:27
3 replies
sh1ro is undoubtably the 2nd best awper in 2022 Ax1Le is the best rifler in 2022, the stats literally prove it, even though you kids dont like him for whatever reason, maybe because he is russian and on a team without many fans (since they joined) hobbit is ass right now, despite that still a top3-4 lurker regardless, but he can do soo much better, and has to otherwise c9 will not return to top status. nafany last year was considered the best igl in 2021, he is in a slump but you cannot tell me that other than karrigan anyone is better when he gets out of his little slump interz ist literally the definition of the perfect support player i still say though that if they want to make changes, it has to be interz because he just doesnt improve, he plays the exact same way all the time, like ive even watched demos, the guy is like a broken record, always the same approach.
2022-08-06 01:05
2 replies
if sh1ro is undoubtedly the 2nd best AWPer then why does he only have 1 EVP this year as compared to Zywoo's 3 EVPs?
2022-08-06 08:51
1 reply
if zywoo is better than sh1ro why does he have worse stats and less event wins this year?
2022-08-06 12:58
ax1le better than choko
2022-08-06 03:10
they are young af..u expect them to have an era while they're 18 year olds or wat and look who is always eliminating them..karrigan with 4 superstars and nearly all veterans and s1mple&co im sure Ax1Le&sh1ro will go on to lift many trophies in the future
2022-08-05 23:23
4 replies
I wouldn't really consider the age factor a real consideration considering they team as a whole have had 2 years of experience + hobbits experience + Ax1le's. Not to mention they're practically same age as faze bar rain who's a bit older. They're good, they're just running a bit dry on diversifying their strat-book
2022-08-06 01:29
#106
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Czech Republic Evis1337
talking about age when there are players that are washed at 19 years old like frozen or before it was flamie
2022-08-06 08:05
2 replies
you good bro?
2022-08-06 10:20
1 reply
#119
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Czech Republic Evis1337
frozen peaked at 17. flamie at 19.
2022-08-06 11:18
launders have talked about it in his unlucky or bad series a lot and I tend to agree with him C9 base a lot of their round strats on dry-peeking or overall not using utils until the very last moment so it became easy for most top teams to catch them on timings or make opening kills early in the round to guarantee a 5v4 situation against C9 and so far C9 themselves did little to change their meta
2022-08-05 23:30
Delusional.
2022-08-05 23:33
C9 does not struggle, they are good players with good synergies and they work well. They bumped on the scene like a year ago and they are doing just fucking awesome. Those kids will be unbeatable in few years if they manage to stick together and keep anywhere near similar work ethic. As for Hobbit, his stats dropped as he took a lot of calling responsibilities. As Volvo banned coaches from being involved in calling that hit C9, or then they were Gambit - because Groove was calling alongside Nafany. Dynamics had to change and that roster dipped a bit, sh1ro and hobbit took onto them selves to help with calling, Hobbit even completely calling some rounds. They are amazing and I hope they can stay together for a long time because CS will benefit from it. Also gotta praise Hobbit man, he's one of the smartest lurkers, insanely good entry when needed on site, good with all the weapons (his awp is sick), calls rounds, second calls, makes like 3 mistakes a year - one of the very few all round players you can rely on.
2022-08-05 23:33
#55
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Australia imissdevvy
Nafany and Hobgod bad period. Don't worry m8, they will do dirty hot and dangerous things on the next champ :)
2022-08-05 23:56
#57
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United States 1Tuurtle
“They have the second best igl” I disagree. His calling worked last year because it caught people off guard. There’s a reason they didn’t do as well on the second half of the year besides just Navi. They lost to teams like G2 and Vita who they simply wouldn’t before. Nafany’s not a bad igl, but because of Gambits quick success people specifically anti-strated them. That’s why they aren’t doing as well, plus Hobbit fell off a lot individually
2022-08-06 00:06
2 replies
name a better igl than nafany this year not named karrigan, as far as i can remember he is only one that won a tier1 event other than navi or faze. and no, electronic is not, we havent seen anything from vim yet despite losing to faze.
2022-08-07 13:27
1 reply
#165
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United States 1Tuurtle
You can't really say one IGL is better than others because they won more. Many other things matter as an IGL. You could take Dexter and put him on a team with Axile, BlameF, Simple, and Perfecto, and they'd win events, but he's not really a top tier IGL. Nafany has 2 top 5 players, while you have other teams doing pretty good with less. Snappi has maybe 1 top 10 player (who was absent for an event he made a final with) and Ence have been very successful. NIP have maybe 2 top 20 players, and that's stretching it. They also have a pathetic awper and a below average support, so you have to give credit to Hampus. Jame is also praised by everyone he works with for his calling. Nafany got found out quick and unlike the best IGL's he hasn't been able to change his tactics up to go back to dominating. I'd argue that he's on a similar level to that of Jame, Hampus, Apex, Cadian, and Tabsen. I also wouldn't say hes to far ahead of the likes of Glaive, Art, or even Nitro. I wouldn't call Electronic a better igl then Nafany, it's too early to see that and most people agree that a lot of the strategizing is done by Blade. But so many other IGLs do a pretty good job with much less then what Nafany has. Ence made top 2, Astralis and NIP made top 5, BIG won Roobet and make semi's in Dallas, Even Chopper deserves a shout out for the Major run from Spirit, although he had a lot of players with a lot of potential. And while currently Aleksib has been doing pretty poor, last year in OG he made multiple semifinals of top tier events with a roster that really never should've made it past groups. When people call Karrigan the best IGL ever it's not because he won the most, it's because of how successful each roster he's had has been. The TSM team had some big names we know today, but at the time they were rising stars. That first Faze team had a ton of Stars so you could argue Karrigan didn't have to do as much but considering what happened after his departure, he clearly had a very important role. Then what he did with MOUZ in 2019 was absolutely fantastic and showed that he didn't need the best players in the world to lead a successful team. Yes 2021 Faze was pretty bad, but I'd argue Karrigan was just waiting to get Ropz so that doesn't really count. A truly great IGL is someone who can make a good team out of any pieces, and doesn't just need the best pieces for the team to be successful.
2022-08-08 04:43
I think the reason is Hobbit is slumping. Nafany and Interz just aren't that good. Because you are correct in the assessment that Shiro and Axile are both S tier players.
2022-08-06 00:11
IGL has healthy issue shiro second in his best form hobbot 30 years old bot intrez just avarage
2022-08-06 00:17
#62
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Poland xOwcA
Ax1le is so overatted imo
2022-08-06 00:24
4 replies
#63
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France Alyta
No
2022-08-06 00:58
said no one ever
2022-08-06 01:06
#78
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Slovakia AdorrioN
Statistically best rifler in 2022, huge impact and insane LAN rating
2022-08-06 01:38
1 reply
+1, eyetest and stats dont lie
2022-08-06 21:59
Top 5 igl maybe Top 5 rifler maybe Top 4 awp maybe Top 3 lurk maybee Top 10 support
2022-08-06 01:06
9 replies
Xd
2022-08-06 01:32
NA talking about cs always cracks me up, you guys are hilarious
2022-08-06 01:37
7 replies
Still #1 Europe #2 Ukraine #3 USA #4-10 Europe
2022-08-06 01:52
4 better igls (karrigan, glaive, snappi, aleksib) 4 better riflers (niko, twistzz, ropz, electronic) 3 better awps (s1mple, zywoo, broky) 2 better lurks (Ropz, blamef) 9 better supports (Rain, Perfecto, okay you got me on this one)
2022-08-06 06:49
5 replies
#107
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France Alyta
Wtf it really looks like you are a c9 hater 0 arguments -nafany has better achievements than aleksib snappi and glaive in the last two years snappi and karrigan? Yes they atr better but aleksibot ajajjs? -ax1le has the best stats as a rifler this year also he has an mvp with 1.37 rating ajaja really niko? Who cant be good in imporsnt matches? -sh1ro is the second best awper this year not just about stats he has been much better than zywoo this year he achieved better results than zywoo this year and much more consistent -yeah hobbit it not more a good player he is the problem with c9 this year -interz is behind perfecto he and perfecto almost always appears at the end of the tournaments as the best supports. Taker your L next time use arguments
2022-08-06 08:18
1 reply
rekt that 12 yo idiot
2022-08-07 13:30
#108
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France Alyta
Aleksibot who was kicked because he cant win a single t round in 15-8 leads please next time use arguments
2022-08-06 08:15
cumbucket with his 0/8 bait, imagine writing so much nonsemse just to get ratio'd
2022-08-07 13:31
1 reply
Best igl happy Best entry apex Best support kioshima Best awp Kennys Best star shox
2022-08-07 22:54
they are doing fine for now don't forget that c9 org is cursed and it is an achievement for any rooster to survive 1 year without a change or disband in c9
2022-08-06 01:32
Cloud9 should be happy if they can stay top 5 after the break.
2022-08-06 01:50
1 reply
#81
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France Alyta
they will
2022-08-06 03:03
Hobbit is washed just that !!!
2022-08-06 03:15
nafany slumped hes probably sorting his shit out its not the same case as aleksib when he cant frag at all no matter what
2022-08-06 03:18
sh1ro top 2 awp lmao
2022-08-06 03:19
#88
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Austria nitrucs
No hate i really like them but actually 4th best igl 3rd best rifler 3rd best awper top 3 lurker 3rd best support but they play very good together since they already play together for very long
2022-08-06 03:23
2 replies
#92
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France Alyta
agree with 4th best igl for me he is the third 3rd best rifler agree 3rd best awper agree Hobbit is washed biggest problem for c9 this year top 2 support behind perfecto
2022-08-06 03:27
no hate but you agree stats axile is the best rifler in 2022 there is nothing to argue about, he has the best stats, lan and online + an MVP i refuse to believe there are 3 better igls than nafany in 2022 especially considering he is the only one that bagged a trophy for his team not named faze or navi. sh1ro>zywoo is 2022, no hate but zywoo is playing his worst year ever
2022-08-07 13:34
Carlos from G2, is it u??? Bro, everything in CS isn't about individual skill. It's about the team being a well-oiled machine, working together.
2022-08-06 03:23
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#93
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France Alyta
they are really good as a team their cordination is too good
2022-08-06 03:34
They are onliners, end of story
2022-08-06 03:39
3 replies
#95
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France Alyta
0/8 theirs with navi and faze are the only teams that have trophy on lan in the last three years fnatic fan cant talk nothing if your tim is trash everywhere jaja
2022-08-06 04:43
2 replies
Singapore scene where?
2022-08-06 05:12
1 reply
#97
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France Alyta
nowhere like fnatic saajjsas
2022-08-06 05:29
their tactic is known shallow, team just get used to their duel behaviour
2022-08-06 08:27
I've watched them alot when they were Gambit They are good young team with potential But they seem to struggle with consistency Nefany is not 2nd best igl. He needs a lot more experience and many times he didn't call the right play and run into a stacked site. Plus his individual flagging skill isn't that good Ax1le is a very good rifler but he's inconsistent. Hobbit is good, I love him. Interz is a good support but I think he's a too passive and need to get more kills somehow Sh1ro is always special To sum up, they're very good team With a bit more experience, consistent and individual improvement then they can challenge Navi and Faze for #1
2022-08-06 09:09
flag and team checks out
2022-08-06 11:31
nafany has to stop playing genshin impact and get his shit together
2022-08-06 11:43
You pretty much answered it yourself. Two of their players are in a slump (and none is support). You need at least 3 consistent stars on the team (and Faze is pushing this to 4) to complete for wins at top events. They should start looking for Hobbit's replacement at the end of the year.
2022-08-06 12:05
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#131
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Slovakia AdorrioN
Patsi is the one for me. He's hard entry so nafany could focus only on IGLing
2022-08-06 13:02
One more thing - they need to work on pistol round or stop forcing after. They give away 3 rounds at each half way too often.
2022-08-06 12:15
#135
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France Alyta
please delete this post already the problem is hobbit thats obvious i love him but he is not even a top 30 players right now he even have 0.90 rating againts top 5 this year
2022-08-06 20:23
#136
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Romania PimPEL
nice name tho
2022-08-06 20:28
shiro isn't top 2 awp s1mple top 2 awp junior god top 1 awp men))
2022-08-06 21:01
#143
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Australia sh4ww
Stopped reading at “second best igl”
2022-08-06 21:38
#144
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Aruba defoliant
just like Navi, in high competition environement they wont be able to snatch more than 1 trophy per year.
2022-08-06 21:44
2 replies
#146
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France Alyta
at least is more than g2
2022-08-06 22:03
they 6 last year but okay
2022-08-07 13:35
#149
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India MrP!ng
They need good gaming chairs and some luck
2022-08-06 23:00
#150
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Canada qui9
man, everyone thats not faze or navi are struggling. c9, ence, astralis... it's two titans of cs and the rest are desperately trying to catch up
2022-08-06 23:18
1 reply
That's fine if they were losing to Faze or Navi like they did in 2021. However they now lose to Imperial, Big with stand-in on previous permaban, Liquid etc. while having 2 top 5 players and the same roster for 2 years. They should be able to do better.
2022-08-07 04:26
Everythang gonna C9 alright custer. youtube.com/watch?v=J5IP6FsMCXA
2022-08-07 04:46
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