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Cost of honesty
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India Afzi_ 
A man's life was destroyed just because he exposed the crimes of a war machine. sbs.com.au/news/article/hes-not-well-jul.. The world should be ashamed for the suffering of this hero. He should be considered among the greats of freedom fighters for going against the superpower of the world and exposing them. Where are the human right activists of America?
2022-08-06 17:59
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#1
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Ukraine alexo22
idealistic people must suffer for their silliness
2022-08-06 18:01
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#4
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India Afzi_
Exposing war crimes is silliness?
2022-08-06 18:03
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He brought it on himself. He was even so unbearable the Ecuadorian authoritarians had to kick him out of asylum. Gg to his one life.
2022-08-07 08:29
Flag checks out
2022-08-06 18:19
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#14
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Ukraine alexo22
my fake flag checks out, gj
2022-08-06 18:19
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#40
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Cyprus Porgos
Imagine using UA flag when you fake flag out of all the flags you could have picked
2022-08-06 21:03
#2
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Russia Ansi
its a mad world
2022-08-06 18:01
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#5
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India Afzi_
Dishonest world*
2022-08-06 18:03
10 replies
noob world
2022-08-06 18:27
no, it`s mad af. mental. the sooner nukes start flying the better, earth and humanity need a complete reset.
2022-08-06 21:50
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#111
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Mongolia k0ng0
Edgy 14 year old philosopher spotted.
2022-08-07 10:54
6 replies
you talking about yourself if you don`t see this (:
2022-08-07 11:30
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#119
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Mongolia k0ng0
When you grow up you will understand (hopefully) that the world has always had shitty parts and Good parts about it, and we have always had doomsday prophets like you around. During the ottomans invasion of jugoslavia everyone in jugoslavia probably thought the world was shit. During britannias colonization of the whole world everyone except Brit's probably hated the world. During ww2 same with the jews etc etc... but humanity lives on to this Day, and large parts of the population have never had better living conditions than now. People and the world adapts and moves on. The world don't care what emo snowflakes like you think.
2022-08-07 14:07
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When you grow up you will understand that comparing stick and stones to missiles and nukes is stupid. Doomsday profit my ass, learn to read.
2022-08-07 15:52
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#132
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Mongolia k0ng0
Alrighty then, Mr.Nostradamus!
2022-08-07 17:35
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did i predict anything? stop throwing words around that you don`t know the meaning of kid.
2022-08-07 19:38
People are the HIV of the Earth. Maybe someday our precious mother Earth will be virus free.
2022-08-07 16:38
CT-sided world*
2022-08-07 16:28
the left loved Assange until he exposed Hillary
2022-08-06 18:02
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#6
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India Afzi_
Yeah and now most Americans hate him while he has done nothing wrong. They should be mad at criminals but they are mad at the one who is exposing the crimes.
2022-08-06 18:04
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Americans don't hate him. The government does. Two different things.
2022-08-06 18:07
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#8
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India Afzi_
Oh yeah like there are major protest ongoing in the country against his extradition. Most Americans hate him because he told the truth.
2022-08-06 18:09
13 replies
They don't. Most americans are too ignorant to even know he is being extradited.
2022-08-06 18:16
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#26
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India Afzi_
Doubt it.
2022-08-06 20:50
#34
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India Afzi_
2022-08-06 20:58
most americans don't even know who he is, let alone hate him. lol
2022-08-06 18:18
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#25
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India Afzi_
I doubt this. People know who he is.
2022-08-06 20:50
7 replies
ok indian you know more about america than I do definitely I trust you
2022-08-06 20:58
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#36
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India Afzi_
2022-08-06 20:59
#38
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India Afzi_
today.yougov.com/topics/politics/article.. On average only 17% americans believe that julian assange should not be prosecuted. Thats too low. And on average 53% believe that he should be prpsecuted seems like people do know about him.
2022-08-06 21:02
don't assume malice when stupidity will suffice
2022-08-06 20:59
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how does that invalidate what i said? interviewer asked: "wanted man was arrested. do u want him extradited to us?" you can very well assume that the respondents dont know who he is or what he's done, just that he's 'brought harm' to fatherland so ofc he must be extradited
2022-08-06 21:13
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#44
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India Afzi_
reuters.com/article/us-usa-wikileaks-ass.. No 81% of americans were aware of wikileaks and the works of julian assange, 69% americans wanted to charge him and 61% oppose the mission of wikileaks. This is overwhelming opposite to the view of other countries in the poll. It basically means americans would rather protect someone who committed war crimes than someone who told the truth about those crimes. Most Americans have a vendetta against julian assange and wikileaks. I can show you more such surveys. You cant make the excuse "oh americans dumb they don't know what they are doing".
2022-08-06 21:19
#10
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Sweden AFCx
assange is a legend
2022-08-06 18:18
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#27
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India Afzi_
+1
2022-08-06 20:50
+11111
2022-08-06 21:20
traitor to the american empire
2022-08-06 18:18
12 replies
"american empire" wtf is this guy talking about xD Its more like he went against the satanic pedofiles lol
2022-08-06 18:23
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#19
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Denmark sNju
He is still a traitor to the American Empire.
2022-08-06 18:36
2 replies
#29
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India Afzi_
How is exposing crimes equate to being a traitor?
2022-08-06 20:53
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#107
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Denmark sNju
Being a traitor is subjective. In my eyes he is a hero. But to the American government he is not. USA is a superpower practicing the imperialism that they hate Russia for also doing. It's so fucking ridiculous.
2022-08-07 09:42
#28
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India Afzi_
If exposing war crimes means being a traitor then sign me in. The stuff in wikileaks was eye opening. The slaughter of civilians means nothing to you?
2022-08-06 20:52
3 replies
doesn't matter he is a traitor to America for declassifying top secret information that is a threat to national security and American power
2022-08-06 21:57
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#67
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India Afzi_
See another typical american.
2022-08-06 22:01
Are you idiot? lol.. if you have a corrupt government and someone exposes it that guy is a hero for the people and a traitor for the corrupt government.. but ethically he is right to exposes those satanic pedos mfs. Why you support pedos and satanic people? Are you stupid? Still believe we went to the moon and shit probably too.. xD Hell has a warm spot just for you waiting ;)
2022-08-07 13:51
dumb liberal detected
2022-08-06 20:58
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#48
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India Afzi_
Both liberal and right wing want assange to be persecuted.
2022-08-06 21:29
2 replies
yes but this person is liberal you don't know shit about americans indian boy
2022-08-06 21:32
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#56
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India Afzi_
Says a person who got refuted by american surveys. Ooh americans dont know who julian assange is.
2022-08-06 21:45
#15
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Denmark Rubix__
lol typical american mentatlity.
2022-08-06 18:20
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#30
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India Afzi_
+1
2022-08-06 20:53
Yeah the US is not a good country.
2022-08-06 18:27
5 replies
#20
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Denmark sNju
No country is good if you fuck with the people in charge. Disgusting world we live in.
2022-08-06 18:37
4 replies
America is on the same level as China and Russia in that department
2022-08-06 18:47
3 replies
#42
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India Afzi_
+1
2022-08-06 21:05
+1
2022-08-07 08:18
#108
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Denmark sNju
Nah, China and Russia is not even close. USA > China > Russia, when it comes to fucking with people. USA have ruined several countries, killed millions of people, indirectly killed/harmed/ruined the lives of hundreds of millions.
2022-08-07 09:53
#24
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Germany nobodyCS
Its so tragic.. The UK has isolated him in a high security prison alongside terrorists and serial killers for 30+ months. There is NO (its surreal) legal basis for his imprisonment. The UK seriously does not even have the slightest thing against him. This makes the UK no longer a constitutional state, their fancy parliament and traditions are meaningless. But now to the even less constitutional state, the US: Assange will be taken to court in Alexandria, Virgina, right next to Washingtons Pentagon, the CIA, NSA, and other Military-, Security- and Secret- services. Alexandrias residents are almost as distant from the average American city (80-90% work for the government) as this laughable trial from a constitutional procedure. Not once in the entire history of the Eastern District Court of Virginia was a person, accused by a national security authority, acquitted... A FREE Society can only be founded on FREE Information
2022-08-06 19:06
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#31
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India Afzi_
America is making an example out of him, they are showing this to the world that if anyone exposes their crime they will come after them. It is shameful that so called democratic countries have forsaken assange against america.
2022-08-06 20:57
Ok so I know this man should not get a life sentence for his crimes but I'm not sure I'm against him being charged at all. I suppose I could probably be swayed that he's already served enough of a sentence but from what I've heard from Assange I don't know he wouldn't do it again. Chelsea Manning got her sentence commuted by Obama so I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that his charges would not get pleed way down. The American government pursuing charges just in general though I don't get why people think this is some facist action. Governments have secrets. Every single one. The fact of the matter is it's in the US's interest to keep those secrets. I just can't be that mad at the government for doing what governments do.
2022-08-06 21:31
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#52
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India Afzi_
Charged for what exposing the truth? How many people who were exposed in those secrets charged? How many politicians, soldiers charged for unnecessary wars and war crimes? Every government has secrets but not as dark as america, america has the darkest of secrets wikileaks gave us a glimpse of what more america has been hiding from the world.
2022-08-06 21:35
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You are missing my point. Those secrets could have exposed the continued support of Nazi concentration camps. The reality is that they are still government secrets and acting like the government is just going to brush it off is silly.
2022-08-06 21:38
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#54
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India Afzi_
Its not the government its the majority of people who support his extradition. Americans don't care if their government is evil but they care if someone exposes that evilness?
2022-08-06 21:43
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A slim majority (53%) support extradition. I'd say that for a case like this that's actually quite a few people considering he took stolen secrets and published them. today.yougov.com/topics/politics/article..
2022-08-06 22:25
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#74
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India Afzi_
Only 17% are against his extradition, others are neutral. Considering this 53% is extreme. American soldiers get pardonned for committing war crimes but for assange the government and people are hunting him till his death.
2022-08-06 22:33
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A 2018 YouGov / Economist poll showed that almost three in ten (29%) Americans support Assange's prosecution and a little fewer than one in five (19%) oppose it. The same poll indicates that most Americans do not carry strong opinions about Assange's future -- another 29% said they "don't know" whether he should be prosecuted, while a quarter (25%) were neutral on the question. This is not extreme for anyone else reading this. Not even a plurality support prosecution. I would think he should be prosecuted as he's broken numerous laws. However time served should be taken into account and like Chelsea Manning the person who was essentially his co-conspirator he should serve very little time if any at all conditional that he's not going to do this again. *Also you are going to need to provide evidence if you are now asserting most American soldiers convicted of war crimes are being pardoned. As someone who served in the military ROE in both Iraq and Afghanistan was extremely strict and soldiers were actively afraid of breaking it.
2022-08-06 22:40
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#77
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India Afzi_
Where is this survey that you are talking about? And doesn't the latest survey hold more weight than outdated data? It would probably take months to collect all war crimes committed by america in just iraq and Afghanistan. chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2006-07-0.. web.archive.org/web/20080114162221/http:.. wardiaries.wikileaks.org/ en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_wa..
2022-08-06 22:51
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1. Paywall 2. Literally talks about charges brought against people. I'm not reading the entire thing. 3. Not reading it's hundreds of pages 4. A wiki for the entire history of US war crimes? Nah you are going to show me that convicted soldiers are getting off. Evidence of a systemic problem in the current US military. This does not demonstrate that. Sorry.
2022-08-06 22:58
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? Did you actually read the list of clemencies you provided by Obama? (Not a single one is war related) It's mostly just regular presidential pardons including Chelsea Manning funnily enough. The only two I see that are egregious are the Trump era pardons of Gallagher and the two army officers. The Army guys it seems was a murky case but I'll give that one to you. I don't see a systemic problem here I'm sorry.
2022-08-06 23:15
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#86
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India Afzi_
You are only seeing what you want to see. These are some known criminals what about the thousands of criminals in military who went scotch free for the killings of innocent cibilians in iraq and Afghanistan? Who were not reported or investigated? How did so many civilians died when the us army is so good?
2022-08-06 23:19
#78
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India Afzi_
Just because you were someone who helped kill innocent people in iraq and Afghanistan this conversation is over. As a principle i boycott evil and evil-enablers from my life.
2022-08-06 22:52
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"innocent"
2022-08-06 22:58
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#81
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India Afzi_
So the 1 million civilians killed weren't innocent? What was their crime that you travelled across the world to invade their country?
2022-08-06 23:04
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I don't and did not support the invasion of Iraq (where the majority of civilian deaths occurred). Like most Americans. However the total civilian deaths includes by insurgents/terrorist/etc. It doesn't excuse some of the major collateral the US caused particularly from the air but it does add some context. Obviously.
2022-08-06 23:08
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#85
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India Afzi_
There are literally records of known and unknown attacks on civilians by us in iraq. No one was punished for this unlawful killings. As a matter of fact there was no reason to attavk iraq at all. America dropped 60000 bombs on Afghanistan in the span of 20 years for what? What did afghanis ever do to anyone let alone america?
2022-08-06 23:17
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I already said I agree Iraq should not have been invaded. But you asked what the Iraqi government did? Best data says over half a million within the Iraqi security state and probably another million from war. He wasn't a good guy but the war was not worth the invasion I agree. The taliban on the other hand let terrorist organizations use their country as a home base and trading post. They still provide cover for terrorists to this day as we found out a few days ago. The reality is if a terrorist organization drops the world trade center and flys a plane into the pentagon they are gonna get got. You can think this is wrong all you want but it was very predictable.
2022-08-06 23:23
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#91
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India Afzi_
The attackers of 9/11 were all saudi's, america attacked iraq and Afghanistan for no valid reason. Taliban was ready to handover osama bin laden yet america chose to bomb Afghanistan into oblivion then to agree on a deal. google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/wor..
2022-08-06 23:31
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2022-08-06 23:37
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#98
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India Afzi_
So saddam Hussein was committing crimes against iraqis then america said enough and went to iraq and sent it back to the stone ages? How is that logical? If something bad happens in america does that allow another country to invade america? Al qaeeda was created by america and used as a proxy to attack these nations. There are evidences of america training al qaeeda to fight against russia. Same goes with taliban, if america is so concerned about human rights that it will invade other countries just because their government violate human rights in some way then why is america has israel as its closest ally which has been violating human rights since its inception according to numerous human rights group. How many childrens and civilians killed by israel? Why dont america invade israel?
2022-08-07 07:50
There are plenty of reasons to seriously question the purpose of invading Afghanistan, but when you ask the rhetorical question "What did afghanis ever do to anyone let alone america?", you don't seem like someone open for discussion/debate.
2022-08-07 16:15
so sad man
2022-08-06 21:49
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#62
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India Afzi_
True
2022-08-06 21:54
Conflict of interest
2022-08-06 21:52
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#63
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India Afzi_
How?
2022-08-06 21:55
5 replies
To uphold peace you must fight.
2022-08-06 21:57
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#66
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India Afzi_
So like nelson mandela?
2022-08-06 22:00
3 replies
I'm really happy there are still people like Assange who are not afraid to die for what is right. It's a sacrifice on his part, and most people will not know or care. Like, when I was 15-20 years old or something, I learned that most people are happy with the status quo and are actively for the current state of the world. Everyone for themselves, nobody wants to fight anyone else's battles, we all got enough battles already. That was pretty depressing to learn but then again, yeah.
2022-08-06 22:10
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#71
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India Afzi_
Nah bro we will fight for a better world, a world without injustice and evil. We will follow the greats like mandela.
2022-08-06 22:26
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I fight every day by eating less meat, never driving cars or motorvehicles, consuming as little as possible, buying as little as possible, recycling and reusing whenever possible.
2022-08-07 00:08
God bless America go America finish terrorism
2022-08-06 22:29
#76
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Taiwan Wao_Mao
3000 k
2022-08-06 22:41
2 replies
wow_mao?
2022-08-07 10:55
1 reply
#135
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Taiwan Wao_Mao
ye
2022-08-07 20:27
True. Sad world. And its crazy that quite many seem to defend the governments when it comes to this.
2022-08-06 23:20
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#95
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India Afzi_
Yes. People are dumb.
2022-08-07 07:40
The state is not a benevolent entity,be it authoritarian or not. It will still care for his own interests instead of what a random relatively unknown person think. If assange wanted to expose the US, first he need to be a notable person, known and liked by the population or backed up by powerful friends. The strongest trait of internet leakers is their anonymity, without them, they are just a sitting duck.
2022-08-06 23:21
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Unfortunately, politics is a game designed to crush outsiders. If you are lucky to not die by messing with powerful people, you suck it up and stay in prison, waiting for your moment to become a martyr.
2022-08-06 23:26
#97
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India Afzi_
Politicians are the worst of what human race could produce. Good people can't make it in politics.
2022-08-07 07:43
#93
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Russia snbac
Leaking classified government information is a crime in any country Why is everyone trying to make him innocent lmao
2022-08-06 23:46
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#96
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India Afzi_
America pardons war criminals but can't pardon a journalist?
2022-08-07 07:41
youre saying this like government is benevolent lmao
2022-08-07 07:50
Flag checks out, but unironically.
2022-08-07 07:58
1 reply
+1
2022-08-07 08:15
its not surprising, but it doesnt make it good. the general population has a right to know many things that are normally hidden from them
2022-08-07 08:15
> Where are the human right activists of America? many many human rights activists in america rightfully point out the injustices here, it is just ignored by mainstream politicians and talking heads. it's a very sad state of affairs
2022-08-07 08:15
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#105
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India Afzi_
Majority of Americans want assange to suffer. They pardoned war criminals but can't pardon a journalist.
2022-08-07 08:22
1 reply
where do you get these facts? because if you're just basing it on what you see/hear generally, i've done the same level of research and come to a very different conclusion.
2022-08-07 16:17
#109
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Russia Semk1n
WTF Murica isnt the best and freest country in the world? No way, mens
2022-08-07 10:16
#110
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Israel smallson
julian is being punished for his disgusting antismitism, not for being honest. and that's a good thing.
2022-08-07 10:47
4 replies
link to antisemitism genuinely interested
2022-08-07 10:55
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#115
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Israel smallson
search for assange antisemitism and you will find around 6 million articles written about the topic
2022-08-07 11:00
2 replies
will look
2022-08-07 11:01
So he was double based, interesting.
2022-08-07 14:19
#114
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Mongolia k0ng0
Assange's biggest mistake was being altruistic and exposing both sides of the political spectrum. In a world and time where you have to pick sides this means no one likes you.
2022-08-07 10:59
1 reply
Yup. He should have let someone else do the exposing for the other side. And take solace on one side.
2022-08-07 18:29
Wonder what the world would be like if the thousands on the very top suddenly all perished.
2022-08-07 14:20
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There would instantly be a new "thousands on the top" - they'd just be different people than the current "thousands on the top".
2022-08-07 16:03
USA is the new Russia.
2022-08-07 14:22
I'm divided on this issue. On one hand, there is an important role for whistleblowers, but on the other hand, some things are done behind the scenes and need to stay that way. If someone steals/leaks confidential information and there are no consequences, then there is no deterrent from sharing any secret. Any company/government department/group must be able to operate with confidence that their secrets will be kept. But as I said at first, whistleblowers are also critically important for a free society. The issue of Assange has several sides to it and it's not clear in my mind how it should be dealt with.
2022-08-07 16:02
"truth hurts"
2022-08-07 16:32
#131
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Poland Astoner55
I agree.
2022-08-07 17:03
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