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Sweden kWahoho 
now, to summarize because we're going in ridiculous circles and we end up addressing this here (because adversarial or not, we come here to talk to you guys) every single time: 1. we are doing everything in our power to help him get back. 2. there is no update besides that until there is an update, at which point you will be updated. 3. the team is doing great and getting better every day because we've worked super hard to get to a place where we can sustain something like this without dropping to hltv 35 4. the team is not in any way speculating about this. your worry that they are constantly on edge about the situation is entirely misplaced because the concept is not hard to grasp. contrary to what people seem to assume, we have ways of communicating with the team that do not involve public twitter posts. 5. in light of that, we will not be putting an arbitrary deadline on "being back" because it serves no purpose besides quelling speculation on the part of people who get paid to speculate, and it causes undue negative effects on everyone involved. 6. if this irks you, I'm sorry, but we do this in the interest of everyone involved on our side. because yes, player health is more important than satisfying speculation. Jonas: The respectful thing to do when a player is getting the time off he needs, is to leave it be and not indulge in media speculation, while we focus on whats in front of us - winning tournaments as the legendary team Ninjas in Pyjamas We're running one of the worlds largest esports clubs here - not a tabloid NIP MT: once he has recovered there will be an update, and until then you're in no way entitled to timely updates on somebody's health condition regardless how much you speculate we've said multiple times that we are doing everything in our power to help. that includes not pressuring anyone to get mentally well on a timeline because that is not how recovery works. that is also why it's absolutely nonsensical to ask why we would break such a promise. if he's back four months before this random date that we made up and we said "nah", you would be right to say we're idiots for keeping him on the sidelines over something as ridiculous as a statement made to quell speculation. thus, there is no point to making the statement in the first place. OFC there is more but mainly this is it
2022-08-09 19:25
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"2. there is no update besides that until there is an update, at which point you will be updated." GALAXY BRAIN 1000 IQ absolute best take ever.
2022-08-09 19:27
11 replies
#10
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United Kingdom Dinoblitx
+1
2022-08-09 19:31
1 reply
+galaxy
2022-08-10 09:44
Must have thought to himself how smart he is when he wrote that xdd
2022-08-09 19:33
2 replies
#17
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Sweden kWahoho
she*
2022-08-09 19:36
1 reply
sheself? And btw this whole post seems strange coming from you when we se you talk about device coming back or not many times. Its like their statements are directed at you but you dont realize this and post it..
2022-08-09 21:32
there is no post beside that until there is a post, at which point it will be posted.
2022-08-09 19:44
3 replies
#59
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Sweden EntonXD
there is no post beside that until there is a post, at which point it will be posted.
2022-08-09 20:39
2 replies
#97
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Poland Ryunar
there is no post beside that until there is a post, at which point it will be posted.
2022-08-10 05:09
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#105
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Netherlands arTvamp
there is no post beside that until there is a post, at which point it will be posted.
2022-08-10 09:51
#104
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Netherlands arTvamp
its normal approach for stuff like this im glad if it is like that. no galaxy brain. the source is questionable.
2022-08-10 09:49
#119
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India NinX
+1
2022-08-10 11:39
im not reading this im either happy or sad for you
2022-08-09 19:27
2 replies
#16
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Sweden kWahoho
ait bro
2022-08-09 19:35
Average tik tok user
2022-08-09 20:33
I feel like this is a good statement that they should've put out earlier.
2022-08-09 19:28
3 replies
#6
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Sweden kWahoho
it's been up a while
2022-08-09 19:30
2 replies
How long ago? If it was recently, I meant that it should've been put out months ago.
2022-08-09 19:31
1 reply
#13
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Sweden kWahoho
i mean calc (jonas) is writing in discord pretty often he have said this since the day devve dissapeared but don't whant publicity for devve.
2022-08-09 19:33
🤡 org
2022-08-09 19:28
8 replies
#9
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Sweden kWahoho
how many orgs have COO that answear questions on discord pretty often
2022-08-09 19:31
3 replies
#82
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Sweden Cveta
Stop fangirling it’s super cringe. Nip has tons of history of being a shit org just accept it.
2022-08-10 00:36
1 reply
#94
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Sweden kWahoho
sure but now there is new CEO can't live in the past bro
2022-08-10 03:48
how many orgs have 1,000,000$ signings not play for 9 months
2022-08-10 01:03
You're the real clown
2022-08-09 20:11
2 replies
mad clowns in pyjamas fan spotted
2022-08-09 20:46
1 reply
#106
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Netherlands arTvamp
where? I want to be such a fan :o
2022-08-10 09:52
+1
2022-08-10 01:03
#5
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Poland zuriiii
Interestink
2022-08-09 19:29
1 reply
#7
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Sweden kWahoho
yy
2022-08-09 19:30
ok but when is dev1ce coming back???
2022-08-09 19:31
6 replies
#12
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Sweden kWahoho
When there is an anoonuncement
2022-08-09 19:31
5 replies
but will there be an announcement for the announcement?
2022-08-09 19:33
4 replies
#37
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Belgium w4lt3r
Yes after the announcement for the announcement for the announcement.
2022-08-09 19:58
3 replies
ahh yes of course of course. I know it wont but I hope every HLTV user see's this and shuts the fuck up about device
2022-08-09 20:02
2 replies
no
2022-08-10 01:04
1 reply
#107
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Netherlands arTvamp
yes
2022-08-10 09:53
i find it pretty weird that it comes across here as if everybody that asks for an device update is does not respect his current problems. Also, in situations like these, updating that there is no update is also updating on the situation. Just doing that alone would stop a lot of question asking from the community. Lastly, NIP should really be making it more clear that even if device comes back, does that mean that he takes up a spot in the team? Most of the current team have communicated that they really like this lineup, and dont feel like changing. Of course, its not their decision, but it should still be considered. NIP should have a statement publically made that says, or doesnt say, that this lineup will stay together for the current major cycle. This would solve a lot of speculation that that same NIP management is now talking about
2022-08-09 19:37
16 replies
#21
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Sweden kWahoho
1. only hampus said that he whant to go with this lineup in interview and that's because he is captain and need his team do have strong mentally. 2. Hampus said on stream that it was sad that device ain't back yet in the team (3 days ago) 3. There is a reason why NiP don't sign new awper
2022-08-09 19:42
10 replies
#32
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Russia Robitussin
>3. There is a reason why NiP don't sign new awper The reason is that there's no good Swedish-speaking AWPers. Perhaps Jackinho, but they wouldn't gamble on him.
2022-08-09 19:53
9 replies
#35
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Sweden kWahoho
no the reason is because devve is coming back, + there is nawwk, joel, and they did well with phzy in team and that were without brollan.
2022-08-09 19:55
4 replies
#40
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Russia Robitussin
Nawwk is hugely overrated, he had been so inconsistent and been whiffing so many easy shots during his time in NIP, but yeah people still praise him for some reason, although he averaged 1.06 rating there as a primary AWPer. Phzy is even worse, he sucks ass, he hasn't even been prominent in the academy league, let alone playing against top teams, simply not good enough for this level. That being said, joel is an interesting option, but his scamming past (I believe he still hasn't paid his debt) will heavily spoil his journey to an established team.
2022-08-09 20:05
#42
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Russia Robitussin
Dev1ce's been inactive for 8 fucking months. Get over it, he isn't coming back anytime soon if he's coming back at all. They shouldn't count on it.
2022-08-09 20:06
#65
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Kosovo LeeTsAuCE
joel KEKW, imagine signing a guy who's in unpayable debt for his age and well known scammer
2022-08-09 21:25
If he ever comes back, he won't be top3 awper. He'll need time to get there and I'm not sure if he's willing to grind hours in csgo if he's not mentally good and stressed.
2022-08-10 11:24
#61
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Sweden EntonXD
You dont know the swedish scene.
2022-08-09 20:41
3 replies
#62
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Russia Robitussin
name a single swedish awper that's not trash (e.g. nawwk, phzy) or has bad reputation (joel)
2022-08-09 20:44
2 replies
only zibbaN comes to mind
2022-08-10 00:26
#91
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Sweden EntonXD
"x is pretty good" "no x is trash XDXDXD" dont be dumb. wolfy is good, nawwk, chawzy was great as an awper before apeks, not going to do research for an online argument against a russian so go google
2022-08-10 03:18
Well a lot of people here are very disrespectful towards him and his situation. I also suspect they have no idea what they will do when he comes back and will probably address that at a later date. I think it would be reasonable to commit to not having him at the next major, but anything beyond that I reckon is hard to do. But agreed, it is not fair on the current team that maybe he just randomly comes back one day. I imagine they are being told a lot more than us though
2022-08-09 19:42
3 replies
yeah fair enough, the disrespect some people show is absolutely unacceptable, and should not be tolerated. that is completely true. I also agree that NIP probably dont know when and if he's coming back either, as there isnt a standard protocol for this type of stuff, and that is all fine. I still believe that they (NIP) could have handled it better externally, by giving some kind of update. It doesnt even have to be about device specifically, it could also just be : this will be our roster for the next 4/5 events regardless of what happens. Now, people will always keep wondering 'do you think device comes back at the major?' 'maybe he will play at IEM Cologne' 'i think he will return after the player break' etc etc If you just be more straight forward as an organisation, i think, at least partially, the stupid comments will stop. Of course, there will always be morons that will ask and say stupid things anyway, but that unfortunately something you have to deal with.
2022-08-09 21:29
2 replies
Agreed, I think you should probably apply for a PR role with NIP
2022-08-09 21:32
1 reply
hahahah talking from the sidelines is much easier than actually playing ofc. still NIP if you read this, hmu
2022-08-09 23:42
Look if the team can have lnz forced down there throat they're gonna have device forced down they're throat.
2022-08-09 20:33
#19
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Norway Snaids
Ty men
2022-08-09 19:37
1 reply
#22
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Sweden kWahoho
np
2022-08-09 19:42
in short: devve scammed them and they don't really know what's next
2022-08-09 19:39
16 replies
That's not what the post says
2022-08-09 19:42
14 replies
well they won't say it openly. but it reads between the lines. 8 months "recovery" is a joke
2022-08-09 19:47
13 replies
You may read that if you like, but it's not what it says. Who are you to say how long it should take him?...
2022-08-09 19:53
12 replies
official reason why he's out is depression. it's been 8 months already and considering he won't be returning for the next season it'll prolly be the entire year. nip are forced to feed us this bs cos they either don't know what's he really up to or there's a much deeper story they don't want to tell
2022-08-09 20:05
11 replies
Sorry, but why can't he have mental health problems for 8 months?
2022-08-09 20:25
10 replies
#51
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North America minte
Most people can't do absolutely nothing for 8 months and be paid for it
2022-08-09 20:31
6 replies
Well depends where you're from and what your contract says. Would you still say the same if he had a physical injury? In my country it's very common for people to be paid when they're ill.
2022-08-09 20:32
2 replies
#56
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North America minte
You most definitely do not have 240 days of sick leave of full salary in whatever country you are in
2022-08-09 20:35
1 reply
Correct, but not everyone needs full salary to live
2022-08-09 20:36
Does that mean he can't still be ill then?
2022-08-09 20:40
least sociopathic american take you will never cease to amaze me
2022-08-10 11:49
1 reply
#122
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North America minte
What?
2022-08-10 13:52
Dudes vajayjay still hurts from his ho girlfriend. Needs to grow up.
2022-08-09 22:40
2 replies
How do you know that's the only thing going on?
2022-08-09 23:31
#120
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Finland ThaMuse
Yeah, never say "grow up" as a solution to being depressed. That's not how it works.
2022-08-10 11:46
+1
2022-08-10 01:05
based
2022-08-09 19:42
#27
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Pakistan LoOuU2
-flopski +devve Please soon so we can have NiP Era back , ty
2022-08-09 19:44
1 reply
+1
2022-08-09 20:21
devvee? is that a nickname of his nickname? no wonder things get so convoluted
2022-08-09 19:44
1 reply
In Nordic countries people get nicknames because we are lazy and the nicknames rolls of the tounge, ex Device -> devve, robert -> robban, brolin -> brollan, Sebastian -> Sebbe, Karl -> kalle etc
2022-08-09 21:31
#29
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United States r0l4nd_
So really what they're saying is they are happy to enable this behavior from device and no one should be speculating and no one deserves to know what is going on because its "health related". NiP org a joke
2022-08-09 19:45
19 replies
#33
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Sweden kWahoho
they littarly say what is going on? he is on a recoverly and he will comeback when he is ready
2022-08-09 19:53
15 replies
its been 2 years almost
2022-08-09 20:13
13 replies
I only missed 3 days of elementary school when my first girlfriend broke up with me
2022-08-09 20:27
12 replies
well he's clinically depressed not heartbroken afaik he even has a new girlfriend so stop saying this is about a breakup when it isn't
2022-08-09 20:32
9 replies
#72
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United States r0l4nd_
lmao you're clueless
2022-08-09 22:13
8 replies
so enlighten me please
2022-08-09 22:26
7 replies
#77
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United States r0l4nd_
"well he's clinically depressed not heartbroken afaik" Show me the diagnosis. No other job on earth would allow even a clinically diagnosed person to take over a year off, let alone someone who was in a breakup kekw. If you're seriously justifying this action then you should never be in any management position ever because from the sound of it you'd be ok with employees taking years off because they're "depressed"
2022-08-09 22:38
6 replies
don't you think they handle diagnosis and treatment internally instead of public mental health is very important in a profession that relies a lot on quick thinking and mental pressure if a function essential to performing the task is not working I won't get the results I'm looking for even if forcing any kind of work out of the employee from the sound of it you should never be in any management position because you'd squeeze every little bit of money out of a person without regarding them and their health, just treating them as objects/tools go back to the industrial revolution
2022-08-10 11:11
5 replies
#123
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United States r0l4nd_
“if a function essential to performing the task is not working I won't get the results I'm looking for even if forcing any kind of work out of the employee” lol so you’d be ok not getting any work from an employee that you’re paying for over a YEAR? How about we do something called being REASONABLE and realizing that just because you’re on the extreme end of workers rights, doesn’t mean I’m on the complete opposite. But anyone with more than half a head can see how utterly ridiculous this is. Not even the players know what’s going on. It is a joke.
2022-08-10 17:05
4 replies
the players (most probably) know what's going on, the public doesn't, there probably is strongly reduced pay for inactive players if someone can't do the work - I can't force him to It's not his fault his mental health went to shit, you shouldn't have to pay the cost of something not in your power, not that NA seems to know much about that judging by their healthcare
2022-08-10 17:39
3 replies
#133
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United States r0l4nd_
Lmao strongly reduced pay? In this case definitely not, NIP have a contractual obligation to pay his salary. It’s not NIP’s fault that it went to shit either, yet here they are completely fucked in this situation. Device is just incredibly selfish, doesn’t care about this team at all. And for someone with such shitty mental health, he sure does enjoy grinding faceit all the time.
2022-08-10 18:00
2 replies
do you know the contract? me assuming some scenario of reduced pay in case of inactivity is just as likely as your assumption of same salary he's back playing faceit - yes getting back into form after a very long break
2022-08-10 18:06
1 reply
#138
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United States r0l4nd_
He literally has been playing faceit nonstop since shortly after he started his break, there is no “getting into form”. He legit was grinding faceit while his team was playing faze in QF at the major, And regardless of whether they have a reduced pay rate (which I’ve never heard of in a case like this) NIP still paid out the ass to acquire him, and they have nothing to show for it.
2022-08-10 18:37
#70
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Sweden Phalkz
I didnt miss a single day of work when my gf left me. I even found out a couple of weeks later she was with one of my best friends. Believe me, it took a f’ing beating on my mental health. I went to work, tried to hold out close to the breaking point every day for weeks and months while at work. Eventually i kinda longed to go to work Because it forced me to focus on something else. Now years later Im sure that that helped me recover faster. But hey, were all different i guess
2022-08-09 21:51
1 reply
+1 mental health is not a joke but there are TONS OF THINGS that can help it quickly
2022-08-10 11:21
#47
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United States r0l4nd_
They said they are working in comeback but that’s it, it doesn’t mean they are anywhere close or if he is even planning on coming back. From a guy who needed a break from the game, he has been playing faceit almost non stop since he started his leave. This whole situation has been complete Bullshit, from device and NIP.
2022-08-09 20:24
You’re the joke
2022-08-09 20:38
1 reply
#71
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United States r0l4nd_
nou
2022-08-09 22:12
well they did use the word mentally so theres your problem
2022-08-10 00:47
are you really expecting people to read that ?
2022-08-09 19:54
2 replies
#38
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Belgium w4lt3r
its hardly a long text bro, you're from finland you have good education, im sure you can handle it.
2022-08-09 19:59
lol its not much at all and yes tons of ppl are willing to read it
2022-08-10 04:25
who?
2022-08-09 20:16
#50
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North America minte
He retired
2022-08-09 20:30
Thank you
2022-08-09 20:45
kekw how to dodge a question and say nothing nothing substantial s16e101
2022-08-09 22:18
tldr: no change now stfu
2022-08-09 22:20
1 reply
+1
2022-08-10 00:40
"there is no update besides that until there is an update, at which point you will be updated."
2022-08-09 22:26
who tf cares about washed devve huh?
2022-08-10 00:40
#86
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United States w0lvesTF
imagine Ronaldo sitting on the bench 1 year
2022-08-10 00:51
1 reply
#99
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Poland Ryunar
:laugh_emoji:
2022-08-10 07:24
I Dont think we should be getting news of dev1ce from nip, i am honestly concerned that something REALLY FUCKED UP happened with him, since a pro/streamer already said that something really messed up happened but that he cannot reveal what it was (i think it was smithz or a french pro player) but just him saying that he is atleast getting closer to coming back would end alot of the pressure that is onto him right now
2022-08-10 03:33
5 replies
yea it was smithzz but is it possible he was just baiting
2022-08-10 07:27
1 reply
i dont think he would bait and joke about something like that
2022-08-10 17:23
#127
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Sweden kWahoho
What did he say?
2022-08-10 17:16
2 replies
he said it in french, if i can recall it was something about the situation with dev1ce being really messed up and alot of the pro players knowing what happened but not being able to reveal the information, and that all of them wishes dev1ce to comeback as soon as possible
2022-08-10 17:24
1 reply
#137
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Sweden kWahoho
Ok mahone Said something like that in a interview to
2022-08-10 18:34
#93
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Canada N00dle5
This is what the post should read. Device is waiting until his contract expires at which point he will leave nip and go play for Astralis again.
2022-08-10 03:37
2 replies
#126
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Sweden kWahoho
Ok let hon with to mid 2024
2022-08-10 17:15
Yeah you think he will ruin his career by not playing any competetive cs in 2.5 years.
2022-08-10 17:27
source?
2022-08-10 04:20
#98
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Poland Ryunar
nip for sure one of the most cucked orgs out there. only outcucked by G2 paying 600k for monesy RONALDO
2022-08-10 07:24
#101
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Estonia zalupa337
its me dodging questions about homework
2022-08-10 09:29
Clown org clown player
2022-08-10 09:42
1 reply
#124
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Sweden kWahoho
Expected from G2
2022-08-10 17:14
haha, this is handled so poorly
2022-08-10 09:55
2 replies
#125
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Sweden kWahoho
No pretty good actually
2022-08-10 17:14
1 reply
incredibly poorly actually
2022-08-10 17:38
#109
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Netherlands arTvamp
at any rate. IF device is withdrawaling from benzo he himself or NIP organisation should contact me. there is a lot of miss information about this stuff from doctors whom claim to know about benzo withdrawal. I know 1st hand how to get off this. I just hope they didnt give him this.
2022-08-10 10:02
3 replies
#110
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Netherlands arTvamp
does anyone know what my best chance to contacting them would be if this would be the case? either NIP or device? betting on a random hltv post is very unlikely.
2022-08-10 10:06
2 replies
lol
2022-08-10 10:11
1 reply
#139
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Netherlands arTvamp
Guess Nothing
2022-08-12 01:24
ok so the grass is actually green, unexpected
2022-08-10 10:11
#116
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Poland mimsonqq
hope he didnt get pay for this
2022-08-10 11:22
#118
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Slovakia VladO.
''we've said multiple times that we are doing everything in our power to help. that includes not pressuring anyone to get mentally well on a timeline because that is not how recovery works.'' let's see whether HLTV users will be able to comprehend this
2022-08-10 11:35
1 reply
#136
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Netherlands arTvamp
+1
2022-08-10 18:09
Get an awper pls, stand in at least -plopski
2022-08-10 18:08
tldr
2022-08-12 01:36
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