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Sweden Smart_404_flamie_fan 
Please help / share your opinion, i just feeling dillema right now. 1. From your opinion, which is better, front end or back end ? And what your reason I dillema because i like design then i learn html css js and another css/js framework, but hard to understand the subject, on the other hand i not so like back end but i can easily understand it, like php laravel codeigniter, but i also hate server things. Also i think when you become backend you also become fullstack, hard to explain, its like you do the damn data but don't forget to show it which is using html css.
2022-08-10 17:43
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I always take the back end
2022-08-10 17:45
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yeah you like that.
2022-08-10 17:46
"Programmers come" Not a single actual programmer comes HLTV
2022-08-11 02:31
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wtf name checks out for first time
2022-08-11 02:35
i like backend more, because i lack creativity and more kind of logic person
2022-08-10 17:47
i only know c/c++
2022-08-10 17:50
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#22
ayy | 
United States Virgin Islands zj2
based
2022-08-10 18:02
the only true knowledge
2022-08-10 18:15
#42
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Ukraine Bumbas_cat
what a loser
2022-08-10 18:40
based
2022-08-10 19:37
#5
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Brazil Miranda_kun
If design is what you like you should probably go with front-end
2022-08-10 17:50
Web dev is dogshit but i'll still answer: Front = low iq + low paycheck + womens Back = higher iq + better paycheck + no womens
2022-08-10 17:52
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How back paycheck is more higher ?
2022-08-10 18:00
4 replies
requires more skills, less people can achieve this -> less offers -> demands rises -> welcome to capitalism
2022-08-10 18:01
3 replies
Nowadays that's changing
2022-08-10 18:05
#41
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Europe tweekzter
and what about the women?
2022-08-10 18:20
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its a facto, there are plenty of womens in UX/Design/Front not like in Backend stuff where there is like 1 women for 20 men
2022-08-10 19:47
#36
rain | 
Sweden iak
+1
2022-08-10 18:17
Front = lower iq, lower paycheck, more womens. Back = higher iq, better paycheck, no womens because you look like Bjarne Stroustrup even though you are only 25.
2022-08-10 18:19
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cry is free
2022-08-10 19:48
#7
Xyp9x | 
Europe Kynks
Don't go back-end if you not like it. Do whatever you like. I'm a back-end developer and if you not like it you can't do it. Also don't become a full-stack developer. No one will hire you because of it. Companies have front-end team and back-end team. Full-stack developer can work in startup. Choose one and go for it. I recommend you React for front-end. There are so many job opportunities and also remote work opportunities. Good luck...
2022-08-10 17:52
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whats your paycheck and country
2022-08-10 17:55
1 reply
32k and micronesia
2022-08-10 18:18
+1
2022-08-10 18:09
frontend people learn mongodb and call themself full stack
2022-08-11 00:02
#9
fnx | 
Brazil shoyera
FUN FACT: Program is a therm we use to refer a time spent/payment with a hooker in Brazil 'Garota de Programa' - Hooker
2022-08-10 17:56
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New Zealand kdeadly
caralhooo
2022-08-10 18:00
#23
b1t | 
Argentina Punsha
i will try that when Rio major comes
2022-08-10 18:04
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#26
fnx | 
Brazil shoyera
and it is kinda courteous and polite if u dont wanna say anything bad puta is the same therm for both of our countries but it is an insult
2022-08-10 18:08
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#30
b1t | 
Argentina Punsha
bc our countries? nah i pass on that shit, we dont are in war, also i travel brasil like 9 times, Rio, Buzios, Yurere international. Also i lost my vcard with an argentinian in brasil KKKKKKKKK i fk love Brasil
2022-08-10 18:11
Pick the one you like more. You will probably make enough money either way to be happy.
2022-08-10 17:58
back end cause you don't have to deal with imaginative ui design created by product team
2022-08-10 17:58
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"udah desain capek2 eh programmernya gabisa bikin" -anak uiux
2022-08-10 18:20
Frontend is for people who like to argue with designers Backend is for people who like to argue with corporate idiots
2022-08-10 18:01
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Lmao
2022-08-10 17:59
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Full Stack is for people who just like arguing in general
2022-08-10 18:01
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#21
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Other KittyVN
full stack is gigachad mode
2022-08-10 18:02
you won't do much design if you do frontend it's more that you'll be given a designed page, and you'll have to write it in html+css, then use some js to fetch data
2022-08-10 17:58
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#20
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Other KittyVN
yeah frontend is boring as shit
2022-08-10 18:01
You'll have more job opportunities as a full stack dev. Unless you work for a really big company front end is pretty useless since every hosting site now has templates and pre built layouts that even somebody with no CS background can manage.
2022-08-10 17:58
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Your second sentence is not true
2022-08-10 18:06
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+1
2022-08-10 18:09
I've worked for companies that use Shopify/WordPress and the site was managed by business people lol
2022-08-11 00:00
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that's canada culture trust me, i already went trough the possibility of working there and did a proper research
2022-08-11 01:23
wtf no half decent company uses templates
2022-08-10 18:11
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i've seen top 100 companies using templates but thats so fucking rare.
2022-08-10 18:14
#52
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Brazil Diabo
sure that's alot of templates out there like blogs, simple websites that u can drag and drop images, text, etc. but none of them covers 100% the needs of a decent company, a good website has its own style, animation, content that is organized in a specific way that makes sense for the kind of business like HLTV (news, forum in the side, teams playing, match schedule, etc.) no template comes even close to HLTV needs, and even if you're talking about landing pages, they gotta be special for people to engage, nobody hire developers to make boring static websites anymore, if you want it, wordpress get you covered, u just gotta buy a domain and host it somewhere.
2022-08-11 01:42
there is no which is better, there is only which suits you better. both topics need only a small amount of overlapping skills. but it looks to me that you havent touched the "real" backend yet.
2022-08-10 18:12
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Tbh, yeah i never touch the "real" backend. I even dont know auth
2022-08-10 18:14
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make some laravel projects from laracast and see if its suits you. backend is complex as fuck. i have 2 projects that i cant finish because i havent figured out certain things. but im not a full time developer.
2022-08-10 18:15
Backend , front are useless designer
2022-08-10 18:20
front-end is easy money once you know how to program it backend is challanging which I need to enjoy work
2022-08-10 19:52
Backend >>> Frontend Keep the eye-candy factor aside and frontend development becomes severely trivialized For instance, in web development, you need HTML to display all the static elements of the webpage, and JavaScript to dynamically read and update the DOM. Everything else that webpage cannot readily avail to HTML/JS will be provided by the server. This is where the Backend comes to play. Designing/maintaining the backend imo is much more complex and requires actual skills and knowledge of software engineering and design patterns. You need to follow appropriate software models and principles to make sure the server is scalable, cohesive, and optimally performant. Most backend developers will [most likely] also have a Database System to work with, which itself requires it's own different set of skill and expertise to manage, normalize, and automate large chunks of data within seconds.
2022-08-10 19:53
#48
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Sweden Akoulad
Backend, .NET specifically. But react with typescript is really fun, except the design part of the website
2022-08-10 19:55
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Is .NET really used ? I mean php framework is rocking on the top
2022-08-11 02:10
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#59
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Sweden Akoulad
Of course, it's used a lot. maybe not as much Java, but you'll find .NET jobs within banks, public sector, insurance companies (Folksam, If).
2022-08-11 14:45
Front end is going away more and more. So many tools are meant for making front ends, much of what was once programming is now just about putting building blocks together and setting some parameters. Still there is no stopping you doing both - or you can branch out into server management, IT safety... what ever you do think the safest is to having a plan to eventually go management. That even allows for you to jump to a whole different field that isn't IT.
2022-08-11 02:04
#55
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Indonesia tldr))
Tbh you need to learn all the basic of frontend and backend then you'll know what is suitable for you,because at the end of the day web dev is a teamwork
2022-08-11 02:23
comments that say frontend easy, no skill - backend hard and requires skill what?? you think it's 2010? currently frontend is no way easier then be with all library's you might be required to learn on fly, you need to learn html, css + css framework, js + js framework/library. for frontend there is so much more to learn. and salary difference if it's even here is small and it will warry more due to your capabilities rather be/fe. you think be is more interesting, challenging? hf writing 80% code that are just crud endpoints. if project is data intensive or interesting sure, but those are rare and should not base your decision solely on this.
2022-08-11 03:01
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