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Portugal W!LDF1RE 
Do people who say that remember how boring and stale that map actually was
2022-08-10 20:08
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-Ancient +Cbble only good option
2022-08-10 20:09
16 replies
ancient is pretty ok, better -vertigo
2022-08-10 20:10
12 replies
Vertigo has great angles though, everything is bright etc. The problem is that the ramp area is too important, so teams just focus on it.
2022-08-11 10:35
4 replies
it's mostly a smoke + spam fest
2022-08-11 10:38
3 replies
yeah
2022-08-11 10:41
its so stupid shit. A ramp, just wait they run out of smokes and spam the smokes and hope to get lucky kill. -vertigo 1200054%
2022-08-11 16:33
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1200055%
2022-08-12 21:52
#43
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Brazil AWFenrir
Vertigo is one of the best maps for good aimers. I honestly prefer Vertigo > Mirage.
2022-08-11 10:38
2 replies
what does this have to do with good aiming, it's mostly spamfest + close quarters combat
2022-08-11 10:41
1 reply
#51
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Brazil AWFenrir
Fewer positions to clear, so +W.
2022-08-11 10:46
Both maps >>>>> old cobble
2022-08-11 11:07
1 reply
#91
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
based
2022-08-12 13:40
-1
2022-08-12 13:02
vertigo goated map
2022-08-12 21:44
ancient cbble only good option, new one sucks
2022-08-11 16:11
#80
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Serbia vuk1sha
-100000000000
2022-08-12 09:25
-mirage -cbble valve can confirmed 😎👍
2022-08-12 21:49
No they dont remember how shit it was; the only reason they want it back is nostalgia. I want season with the back of the map squashed or something so ct rotates are a bit shorter
2022-08-10 20:09
2 replies
That is actually not true i really loved this map, not latest version tho
2022-08-11 10:15
1 reply
+1 it was my second most favorite map before helloween update
2022-08-11 10:30
I replayed cache and cobblestone recently on community servers, unfortunately it's not as good as I remember
2022-08-10 20:09
1 reply
#92
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Name Checks Out
2022-08-12 13:40
#5
Jame | 
United Kingdom bubza
old cobble was better, didnt like the update
2022-08-10 20:10
1 reply
#9
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Chad kdorek
everybody that asks for cobble pretends that update didn't exist which is fair enough, i dont think you could ever play it on faceit and the time it was on MM was also very brief
2022-08-10 20:12
#7
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Chad kdorek
I want good new maps (Ancient is not bad but could be much better) Cobble has both nostalgia and aesthetic going for it, but it'd rather take a castle-themed map that plays better.
2022-08-10 20:11
4 replies
+1
2022-08-10 21:11
#19
Jame | 
United Kingdom bubza
+1
2022-08-11 10:14
The problem with ancient is A site for sure. I really like mid brawls, the magic molotovs, fights etc. B lane is also good imo, u can use it to take B or to have alternate angle onto mid :D
2022-08-11 10:34
#93
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
+1 Ancient has lot of potential though. I relly like it now, but I do have to gree that it has some improving to do
2022-08-12 13:41
Anything is better than Dust2
2022-08-10 20:11
#10
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Sweden Cruxor
The only people who think cobble is stale and boring are those who were gold nova when they played it lol
2022-08-10 20:14
14 replies
i was gold back then and still liked it
2022-08-11 10:31
How can the map with no connectors, so you either go A or B be interesting?
2022-08-11 10:38
12 replies
what? what do you mean? inferno also doesnt have a connector, and yet people say its a good map
2022-08-11 10:37
6 replies
But the distance from banana to top middle isn't that big like from A long on cobble to mid on cobble.
2022-08-11 10:39
4 replies
okay, true. cobble felt too large at times
2022-08-11 10:40
3 replies
I mean this is the worse thing about cobble, doesn't have connectors (from b to "mid"/a) and the rotates for Ts are significantly longer than for CTs. Inferno doesn't have connector, that's right, but it's a bit claustrophobic there, so I don't feel that rotates for Ts are too long. I think that cobbles sites were good, but the rest of a map need some rework if they want to bring it back :)
2022-08-11 10:43
2 replies
ct site on cobble was probably most fun ct side out of all maps, especially drop, which i mostly played. cobble needs some rework, but i feel like they need to work on the t aspect of the map and not the ct aspect. a site was fine imo until they completely ruined it with the update. also adding crates to drop, which was probably the most iconic spot of the map, just completely ruined it for me
2022-08-11 10:46
1 reply
Yeah, I can agree that if they want to have cobble in the map pool, they should rework t-side of the map. That's crucial
2022-08-11 10:47
i dont
2022-08-12 21:45
so you plant bomb in connector? 5head
2022-08-11 10:38
3 replies
You need connectors to have various fake/takes options 5Head
2022-08-11 10:39
2 replies
cobble still more interesting than vertigo (which has a "connector" that is never used)
2022-08-11 11:00
1 reply
Vertigo have fast rotations though.
2022-08-11 12:40
Go drop then go a. Ez
2022-08-11 11:19
#11
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Romania Pecea
cobble and cache wont fit in current meta /closed
2022-08-10 20:16
2 replies
Cache would work but the updated cache has horrible textures and visibility so i hope it wont be back in the pool
2022-08-11 11:20
1 reply
Cache would work because it's like Mirage, everybody knows how to play it
2022-08-12 12:29
#12
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Brazil ShalkanG
+cbbl +train
2022-08-10 20:16
Only nostalgica, best map in 1.6.
2022-08-10 20:17
Early cbble was crap but they kept improving it. It was a solid map when it was removed.
2022-08-10 20:17
2 replies
worst bait of all times
2022-08-11 10:31
Nah, it A site was terrible when they removed it. Cobble was ok in 2017/2018 I guess.
2022-08-11 10:31
remove mirage = remove 99% of toxic idiots from the game, plus removing one of the most boring maps in the game.
2022-08-10 20:18
5 replies
-1 Mirage is the greatest map out there. I think the best move is to remove dust2, this map is really boring, you take long every round, then might control short, that's not funny.
2022-08-11 10:31
3 replies
name doesnt check out. dust2 is the best, most skill-based map there has ever been and if you remove that, then all that is left is valorant crap.
2022-08-11 13:21
2 replies
It might be skill-based if you mean mechanics, but utility usage, positioning of a team is so stale and boring in my opinion. I play dust2 quite often, because I queue for all of the maps, but usually don't enjoy the experience with randos.
2022-08-11 16:08
#82
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Serbia vuk1sha
Hahahahhaha -10000, see what simple said about mirage
2022-08-12 09:30
#94
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
People said the same about Dust2 some time ago. Also in my opinion mirage should sty over Dust 2. The games on dust 2 are way more boring and way more predictable. Mirage at least has some space for unpredictable rounds due to the larger ammount of connections and spaces to take
2022-08-12 13:43
#16
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Cyprus Porgos
I remember JW kill with sawed off on cobble, also dropping with Mac 7
2022-08-10 20:19
+111 far better maps to replace mirage with
2022-08-10 21:08
2 replies
#20
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United States menhera
“Replace mirage” 0/8
2022-08-11 10:15
1 reply
it has been in the map pool forever and hasn't changed forever and the meta is boring
2022-08-11 11:42
-ancient +train GOAT map
2022-08-11 10:15
5 replies
I dunno if train would work with m4a1s meta and smoke spams :/
2022-08-11 10:29
3 replies
well since corridors are small prefires can be very easy to counter no? perhaps nade spam?
2022-08-11 10:33
2 replies
I don't think so, imagine that u get double dinked through the sandwich smoke on A site. You are near A main and the enemy is back ivy lmao
2022-08-11 10:35
1 reply
yeah fair enough i just loved playing that map
2022-08-11 10:36
#95
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Train suffers from the same issue as cbble. That comes from guy who enjoys to play train a lot
2022-08-12 13:43
old cobble was great tbh.... miles better and more enjoyable than shitferno for example
2022-08-11 10:16
9 replies
absolutely shit take
2022-08-11 10:29
8 replies
Feel free to disagree Mirage and Shitferno and the 2 most boring maps to both play and observe.
2022-08-11 10:50
7 replies
Any argument why?
2022-08-12 09:04
6 replies
Generally thrash maps, terrible layout, no room for more advanced tactics, every team knows how to plays these maps so every match on it is literally the same shitfiesta going to OT
2022-08-12 09:06
5 replies
I have to disagree, especially with mirage, its layout is the best and you can use advanced tactics here. The thing with pro teams is also false, because it's not true that games on mirage very often go to ot, more on inferno. Inferno's layout might not be the best, but fast rotations, interesting banana fights make the map very playable, of course the problem we face here are retakes, which are very hard to do, that's the problem with inferno, people saving too much. But mirage, it's the best map in the pool, imo nuke comes close second, only because it's too difficult to play mms on it.
2022-08-12 09:16
2 replies
Well ok... tbh i don't really dislike mirage that much, the only real problem i have is shitferno, that map is just stupid imho and i just hate playing it/observing matches on it. Atleast we can somewhat agree on Nuke, since for me it's easily the best map in the pool.
2022-08-12 09:28
1 reply
Nuke is the most interesting map in the pool, so yeah. The problem with inferno games is that there is no connector from banana, so you have one passageway going to bombsite, and teams usually just execute/contact B or execute A (either short or short/aps). I can agree that tside on inferno is kinda boring, but I really like ct side here, the amount of funny spots, especially on A makes me honestly enjoying every game on it. I also like going banana every round, when I can, so my t-side opinion is biased.
2022-08-12 12:15
"Terrible layout" >Wants cobblestone back
2022-08-12 12:36
1 reply
I don't necessarily want cobble back, that map is not great either. But i would rather see more maps added instead of the ones i mentioned.
2022-08-12 13:00
old cache and cobble were my favorite maps. Even tho i had 50 fps with my old 610m i was having so much fun playing old cobble. Imo it didn't need rework, remastering it could've been so much better.
2022-08-11 10:23
Rush B don't stop
2022-08-11 10:28
-dust 2 -mirage +tuscan +survivor
2022-08-11 10:29
They should bring back old (OLD) cbble, without any of the SHIT between DD and B bombsite proper. That would quicken up the matches quite a bit. i.imgur.com/PQ624ML.jpg :)
2022-08-11 10:41
these people are actually delusional. sure, bring back a map where the only thing you do as t is rush b 15 rounds in a row with like a billion flashes.
2022-08-11 11:02
Thats for 2 reasons that didnt watch pro cs back then or they never played the map It was easily even more stale and boring than dust 2 at the point it was removed
2022-08-11 11:25
#63
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Belgium rpRj
Cbble best map
2022-08-11 12:46
-vertigo -ancient +train +cobble
2022-08-11 16:12
cbble boring? WHAT?
2022-08-11 16:18
#69
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United States born4anime
cobble wasn't all that. I think it's gimmick (big open spaces) could be remade into some other map, but it was a chore to watch. The only thing that made it good were the souvenir drops during the major, because of le 0.00000001% chance of dragon lore
2022-08-11 16:24
1 reply
#98
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Could be remade into new map, sure, but it wouldnt be cbble. That map would be to cbble what Ancient is to Aztec with maybe some more similarities.
2022-08-12 13:45
Doesn’t matter. We’re getting Tuscan as the next map in the pool.
2022-08-11 16:27
Same people who said astralis boring team. Disregarded EZ
2022-08-12 09:10
Cbble best and dragon lore Gg
2022-08-12 09:10
Bro ancient is TRAHS TIER map just remove it and replace it with COBBLE.
2022-08-12 09:16
1 reply
cobble is also bad
2022-08-12 09:22
I reckon not many users nor players analyse the maps in what makes them good or bad. They just take face value as facts and play popular maps because they're popular which then makes them popular (weird catch 22). Just look at people asking for Tuscan back, when very few maps from older versions of CS has worked, Tuscan was tried in early CSGO but didn't work, utility usage and mechanics differ now. Old maps are only beingalked about because players miss their youth when they played the maps, not the maps in themselves
2022-08-12 11:51
4 replies
#99
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
+1
2022-08-12 13:46
+1 for last sentence, even though it would love to see Tuscan back, can not be worse than dust2
2022-08-12 13:46
2 replies
They fall under the same category though: they aren't made for GO but for previous iterations of the game when the meta, times, timings, utility, mechanics, and everything else differed! take Mirage as an example: quite an enormous change from the previous versions of previous games, same with nuke! That's why they work fine. they are updated to fit the current version of the game, while dust 2 and tuscan mainly has had some minor changes and assets updates
2022-08-12 21:40
1 reply
Very true my friend. Still my point was that even though we would have 2 bad options I think Tuscan would be refreshing because its "new" and probably little bit better. Probably best option would be new map like Ancient.
2022-08-13 13:26
#85
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Poland Berbe123
bring back old cbble pls
2022-08-12 12:18
One of the best map
2022-08-12 12:34
-mirage -dust +cobble +cobble2
2022-08-12 13:44
+cobble then droptares strikes again and ef ez top10
2022-08-12 13:44
#102
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Finland 5way
add the new tuscan and -d2 it kinda reminds me of old Inferno
2022-08-12 16:13
#108
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Argentina atriX^
No, they don't. cbble and cache were garbage then and they are still garbage now.
2022-08-12 21:58
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