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Kazakhstan Kazachstan 
What was the exact moment when it started, what do you think?
2022-08-17 02:32
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When they lost to Spirit and almost got 16-0'd by them on Dust2 at Iem Katowice 2021
2022-08-17 02:37
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they were not the same after that one
2022-08-18 00:06
+1 you are a smart user
2022-08-19 02:49
when device left /closed
2022-08-17 02:34
8 replies
No lol
2022-08-17 03:02
already before that
2022-08-17 03:07
before that /closed
2022-08-17 23:18
*when device told the team secretly that he's leaving
2022-08-17 23:41
no lol
2022-08-17 23:50
when gla1ve lost his virginity
2022-08-18 15:49
2 replies
he is christian and waited till marriage
2022-08-18 16:00
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2022-08-18 18:03
ppl say when device left , but the are so many that you cant pin point it for me , it was not sticking with bubzki for the major and then getting nicodoz , that killed the team and prob is the reason they dont have an awper
2022-08-17 02:35
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Bubzkji didnt have the lvl to compete in tier1. His impact and overall awareness was terrible
2022-08-17 23:34
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0/8 , back when device left he was the best player in astralis , made few mistakes sure , but he was on the bench for a half year , he could have grown to be a very decent rifler for astralis , even if you consider him bad , then you will agree that astralis benching him for an unknown awper for t3 was a really shitty move to do especially giving the fact that he did have a big part of them making it to major
2022-08-18 12:55
kinda true. looking back at what astralis have been doing, it's harder to expect a smart decision from their management than expect g2 to lift a trophy
2022-08-18 00:16
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+1 ahaha , very true , tbh what do you expect from an org that hires ex-volleyball boomers to do their management
2022-08-18 12:56
2022-08-17 02:35
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#38
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Pakistan LoOuU2
i knew what it was gonna be before opening it , this hits HARD
2022-08-17 23:57
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yo what is this pic? any lore behind it?
2022-08-18 13:43
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#52
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Pakistan LoOuU2
uhh its from the PGL Major and thats Zonic and Dupreh staring at Devve who left their team after 9 years of playing together, soon these 2 different teams were gonna face each other.
2022-08-18 14:35
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#80
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Ukraine Bumbas_cat
Damn I member this trio (dupreh, xyp9x, device) since TSM times ;(
2022-08-18 18:30
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#83
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Pakistan LoOuU2
same man , as an Astralis fan since 2017 i miss the group as well!
2022-08-18 20:15
the EXACT moment astralis fell down is when the org didn't let players skip specific events to avoid burnout and when it went to the point where for a few months 1 or 2 of there original legendary roster were on medical leave and they had to play with scrubs like JUGI or bubzkji etc
2022-08-17 02:38
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That makes No sense seeing how they won another 3 events after glaive came back from his break and reclaimed 1#
2022-08-17 23:30
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But it did create cracks that started getting bigger. Like Magisk IGL-ing, after which he wasn't his former insane anchor self. He was their third star but his performance dropped a bit even though when full Astralis came back they easily dispatched others. As soon as 2021 came around, Astralis fell off completely and dev1ce left. Worse than SK Gaming/MIBR 2018 imo.
2022-08-18 00:10
#42
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Netherlands arTvamp
exactly
2022-08-18 00:15
+1
2022-08-18 01:43
#64
Zeus | 
India ELEXR
2022-08-18 16:10
But they won some titles after xyp and gla1ve re joined so not exactly
2022-08-18 16:20
#76
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Czech Republic JameS_19
No, this wasn’t the turning point, they were still solid team after the medical leaves. After xyp came back they still won this ESL challenge or what was it in the end of 2020, the finals against Liquid (Twistzz’s last game), before that they won a DH masters, and after that they went into finals of BLAST against NaVi in the begging of 2021. People don’t realize they were still really good team 4 months before device left. The turning point was 16:0 Dust2 by Spirit.
2022-08-18 18:15
The exact moment when device became a NiP player
2022-08-17 02:40
#7
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Egypt BomberMan_
10 man roster or blastralis
2022-08-17 02:48
2 replies
"blaststralis" you know thats what Degen thorin refer to as the first half of 2019, you know the year where won both majors and a total of 7 or something tourneys, not exactly a downfall lmfao
2022-08-17 23:32
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#32
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Egypt BomberMan_
blastralis was the canary in the coal mine or whatever. they bounced back from that shitshow, but you saw what has gone on since then. anyways i gave two choices and said 10 man roster first. also Thorin is great whats wrong with his sayings?
2022-08-17 23:45
Online
2022-08-17 02:54
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#75
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Czech Republic JameS_19
Shit take. They won the first RMR which was online, after xyp came back they still won this ESL challenge or what was it in the end of 2020, the finals against Liquid (Twistzz’s last game), before that they won a DH masters, and after that they went into finals of BLAST against NaVi in the begging of 2021. People don’t realize they were still really good team 4 months before device left. The turning point was 16:0 Dust2 by Spirit.
2022-08-18 18:14
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Ok
2022-08-18 21:53
#9
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United States zovint
Hmm. For me, I think it was When Magisk,Dupreeh, and zonic left. There were some promising moments like their debut with the new roster at blast but that didn’t work out. They placed well at cologne but I don’t really know what’s gonna happen next.
2022-08-17 02:56
When xyp9x and Gla1ve almost sued them to take a break
2022-08-17 03:01
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+1
2022-08-17 23:52
when xyp and glaive took the break
2022-08-17 03:01
first time furia won against them they already werent the same anymore, although furia played really well: hltv.org/matches/2333773/furia-vs-astral..
2022-08-17 03:04
#14
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Denmark Luk9x
When gla1ve and xyp took burnout leaves and they lost momentum.
2022-08-17 03:07
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#17
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Kazakhstan Kazachstan
I believe so, too
2022-08-17 23:15
Exactly, this ^
2022-08-17 23:45
#39
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Europe Vallon5(1)
+1
2022-08-18 00:06
#44
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Netherlands arTvamp
yeap but dont forget it was majorly due to the org not giving more breaks earlier on that this gotto unvold the way it did. it puts stress on personal social life. which in turn gives more stress if that doesnt go so well. issues likely remain unresolved. as a result bad situations continue to be.
2022-08-18 00:24
+1 CS is such a 'feel' game. I play for 10 years and then take break 1 week from PC and then comeback and it feels like i never playe CS or touched a PC my intire life
2022-08-18 00:25
#78
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Czech Republic JameS_19
That’s a terrible take, people don’t realize how good were even after xyp and gla1ve came back. They won DH Masters Winter, then they were second in BLAST, then they won IEM Global Challenge. That was in the end of 2020. Then begging of 2021, they were second in BLAST global finals, lost no NaVi in the finals (3-4 months before device left they weren’t bad at all). The turning point was Katowice where they got 16:0’d by Spirit.
2022-08-18 18:19
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gla1ve | 
Denmark JKTP
Just around Covid It all went downhill from there Sure they had some good tournaments like R2R etc. but they were never the same.
2022-08-17 03:10
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agree , it was 2 legendary years
2022-08-17 23:28
When xyp came back for es3tag. Every other answer is wrong, null and void.
2022-08-17 23:16
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+1 astralis would have stayed relevant if esetag was kept instead of xyp, they even won EPL S12 with esetag as stand in over navi that time. A very clear upgrade role wise, they were running double awps with esetag instead of dupreeh that time which really helped them move pieces better. Although what really killed them was when they kept dupreeh over bubzkji who was a clear 1 is to 1 replacement role wise, it was very obvious dupreeh was declining that time. Summary, if they -dupreeh -xyp and +bubzjki +esetag after EPL S12, would have been a very different Astralis. Xyp and dupreeh was so trash after that, literally carried till end of year 2020
2022-08-18 18:10
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#85
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Kazakhstan Kazachstan
es3tag isn't THAT good
2022-08-19 00:11
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As a xyp replacement, the best they could get at that time(Q4 2020). If you watched that series(EPL S12), its day and night vs. xyp. As an individual, he never really was an icon. We all know it, theres nothing to bait lol
2022-08-19 22:30
Tbh probably after gla1ve returned from his break.
2022-08-17 23:17
When the team decided to stay stuck in the past and didn't sign new young players
2022-08-17 23:18
IEM KATOWICE 2020
2022-08-17 23:19
It was before Deivce left. But the meltdown was when he went to NIP. Then the team went from 5 to 4, and from 4 to 2v2.. But the burnout when Snappi, Jugi, Bubzki, Esetag, etc. etc. was playing for Astralis was when it all went bad. Esetag was the only player that could play with the team, and he ended up being sold to C9, and never really found his Astralis form again. An area is an Area, and at some point all teams will loose their "Stardust - glitter" Just like Barcelona (Ronaldinho time) etc. etc.
2022-08-17 23:22
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Area: an area is a particular part of a place, piece of land, or country.
2022-08-18 13:05
when 2021 began :)
2022-08-17 23:30
#33
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Europe potatomato
Sometime after they peaked i guess, idk ask device
2022-08-17 23:46
#10 /closed
2022-08-17 23:52
covid
2022-08-17 23:55
When Magisk ate a kiwi. They were never themselves after that.
2022-08-18 13:12
#53
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
2022-08-18 14:43
Botstralis
2022-08-18 15:38
#58
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Norway Balta69
when 2020 ended
2022-08-18 15:58
when they forced bubzkj to play support
2022-08-18 16:01
It was some blast tournament when xyb started crying
2022-08-18 16:03
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online era
2022-08-18 16:04
#63
Zeus | 
India ELEXR
When the lil lil anti strats (against astralis game philosophy) accumulated enough to change meta and made astralis uncomfortable and unprepared enough to face them.
2022-08-18 16:08
when Astralis choked on dust2 vs Mouz at EPL season 10 finals
2022-08-18 16:27
#67
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United States D1ngusboi
LUL #4 team in the world and you're saying they fell off... definitely have potential with this roster. Just -farlig and +device and easy major.
2022-08-18 16:27
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When they became content. Comfort is the greatest killer of greatness. Also when they lost their hunger to win,
2022-08-18 17:16
#71
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Somalia Erx1
Actually when dev1ce left for me
2022-08-18 17:57
1 reply
That was the exact moment he became Heisenberg
2022-08-19 02:46
when they played with jugi and snappi
2022-08-18 18:06
#79
virgo | 
San Marino Lsege
Covid destroyed them
2022-08-18 18:27
im coping hard, but i think it was when dev1ce left, like if he had waited for lans to come back and stayed with the team i think they would still be doing pretty well
2022-08-19 12:22
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