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Slovakia 4NTEP 
Hello everyone! When is the best time to buy a gaming laptop? As far as I know both Intel and AMD are about to release new CPUs, AMD and NVIDIA preparing new GPUs as well. I don't see that deep into the hardware world, do you think it's going to influence the price of current hardware noticeably? If so, WHEN should I expect the change - now/once released/months after release? Are they going to release whole range or just CPUs/GPUs for PC builds and mobile version later on? Do we know that yet? Any experience from past years? What I wanna buy is the Dell G15 (5520): i7-12700H RTX 3060 RAM 16 GB SSD 512 GB 15.6'' 120 Hz display version (I play with external monitor anyway, don't need higher refreshrate) I will use it to play CS:GO and for school stuff (3D modelling, programming, etc.), I rarely play other games now. I am pretty set on this device since I can get it at better price. The G15 5520 was only released this year in May, so is that another factor that can play role in the pricing? But I mean, if they get cheaper hardware from Intel and NVIDIA, it should, right? Or am I being naive? TLDR: When is the best time to buy a laptop with current hardware when new hardware is behind the corner? Bonus Q: How much pricier is 32 GB DDR5 RAM over a 16 GB DDR5 RAM?
2022-08-18 10:17
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#2
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Nepal triskacik
there's always a new hardware behind the corner, every piece of tech loses value quickly. Buy when u need or want it.
2022-08-18 10:18
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#5
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Nepal triskacik
also gaming on laptop is shit in my opinion, but that's your choice
2022-08-18 10:20
5 replies
it has to be portable also I've always played with budget laptops worse than the one I am gonna buy and I still get 200-280 fps, so should be enough for me
2022-08-18 10:22
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#27
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Portugal Lost_fly
whats the point in having 200+ fps in a laptop with a 90hz refresh rate?
2022-08-18 12:35
2 replies
External screen
2022-08-18 12:38
that's not enough?
2022-08-18 13:37
#115
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Belgium w4lt3r
I have a 3060 165Hz HP Omen which was a bit too expensive but it's fine for a laptop
2022-08-18 21:51
dont bother with videogames and focus on school (or get into games that arent as demanding. such as Victoria 2)
2022-08-18 10:19
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#4
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Australia poppyxox
bruh victoria 2
2022-08-18 10:20
1 reply
vic2 best paradox game wdym
2022-08-18 13:15
na kojim si ti drogama
2022-08-18 17:18
Vicky 2 is great
2022-08-18 21:11
idk i just buy something whenever i want it
2022-08-18 10:23
1 reply
flag checks out I guess
2022-08-18 10:24
idk about dell, i bought my lenovo laptop for a discount month before new models with new hardware were released. So you probably should wait for some time to see what happens to prices in your case.
2022-08-18 10:30
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ty, that was helpful
2022-08-18 11:51
#11
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Australia Noba
dont buy dell, they make really shitty laptops
2022-08-18 10:36
6 replies
shitty in what terms?
2022-08-18 11:51
2 replies
My Dell G7 laptop graphics card totally died after 2 years and can't claim warranty, will not buy from Dell again
2022-08-18 12:12
#46
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Czech Republic Evis1337
cooling and stuff. do your research. also my intel chip in laptop was 97 °C when gaming and like 80 °C when browsing (yes i did change thermal paste), intel is most likely shit in laptops still. btw on forums they said 97 °C is normal so
2022-08-18 13:39
lol? they have literally the best customer service in the world Friend bought 2.5k€ laptop and has 36 months Guarantee repair within 24 hours in the entire europe insurance on everything except fire and theft in price and each notebook is the same, literally only components matter
2022-08-18 21:15
Stop saying fake info I had 3 dell's and everyone was great, worked for 4+ years wirhout an issue
2022-08-18 23:52
+1 Dell is dog
2022-08-23 18:42
At least until 11000 generation the Intel CPUs got pretty damn hot..not sure but the newer ones might be better
2022-08-18 10:38
Don't bother with Dell shit laptops. Actual waste of silicon. Try Lenovo Legion, MSI GP76, ASUS RoG M16, ASUS TUF F15 is also very nice. Absolutely don't go for Razer or Alienware.
2022-08-18 10:41
8 replies
what's so shit about them? I haven't had a Dell laptop is it heating, build/durability, optimization? what's the problem with them
2022-08-18 11:50
7 replies
-Dell use very cheap components that aren't good in the long run. A friend of mine started having weird issues like laptop crashing when picking it up and he always took care not to cause damage to it. -Atrocious cooling (considering Intel CPUs consoom a lot of watts) -Comes bloated with dogshit software (not a problem if you re-install clean Windows) but drivers/software have issues that can cause performance degradation. You'd have to wait for BIOS or software updates themselves to fix it and god knows when they'll release them. Dell is also known to nerf the CPU/GPU from the BIOS updates sometimes. Forget the cheap Inspiron models, if you take a look at their flagship Alienware products that itself has way too many similar problems. Every laptop manufacturer has problems but Dell is especially bad. Check out Jarrod's Tech on YouTube for some good laptop reviews, especially the Lenovo Legion.
2022-08-18 12:34
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Thank you very much for such detailed answer. I actually watched Jarrod's reviews of G15 (5515), although none of the problems he pinpointed don't really bother me. He said screen is not great unless u go for 240 Hz, but I don't care for that bcs I game on external monitor anyway. Non-upgradable SSD - I don't mind. Slower RAM - which has been upgraded in G15 5520. He even did a comparison to Legion 5 everyone praises and pretty much summed up they're very similar and it doesn't really matter which one you choose. I watched the vids before and I am lazy to rewatch all of it now so I might have forgotten something: youtube.com/watch?v=O2k2Lgb38SU youtube.com/watch?v=kRjyxh9AG1w youtube.com/watch?v=kgIVFu_2SUQ + he ranked the G15 5515 in A-tier here: youtube.com/watch?v=Bq1NPvqI91w Edit: I also remember many said in yt reviews of G15 5520 that it's actually durable although plastic. Also someone did heating test on the keyboard and it was OK. But who knows, they really might fall apart after a year or two.
2022-08-18 12:55
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Dell's are somewhat durable especially for the plastic chassis but I still wouldn't trust it to spend a significant amount of money on it. I've seen way too many issues with Dell's over the years. Reviewers also spend about ~1 week to review a product and then send it back, so long term problems might not be immediately visible like the BIOS/software stuff. In the tier-list itself the Legion 5 is placed in S-tier. Since you are making a long-term significant purchase, you might as well buy a better product with better cooling (thermal paste too), RAM, upgradeable SSD, etc Funnily enough, one of my positive experiences in Dell is playing CSGO on a friend's laptop where the audio was fucked, in the sense that it sounded really weird but I could hear enemy footsteps halfway across the map lmao.
2022-08-18 13:23
3 replies
yeah, they only test it short-time, that's a good point well ty, i have a lot to think about
2022-08-18 15:17
2 replies
I forgot to add one thing. Lenovo uses a new material called phase change thermal pad. Its solid normally but melts into a paste when CPU/GPU is under load and gets hotter. It's apparently the next best thing since liquid metal but without the danger of electrical conductivity. How it is not more well known is beyond me. Only 1 guy has done tests on YouTube and even after 3 months temps are perfect. You can check out more user experiences on Reddit including where to buy. It's called Honeywell PTM 7950.
2022-08-19 04:57
No matter what you go for, try and get the longest warranty possible. Laptops have more issues than Desktop PC's in general due to form factor.
2022-08-23 18:45
#52
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Czech Republic Evis1337
this guy probably knows better than hltv users then
2022-08-18 13:40
buy better pc
2022-08-18 10:42
Buy it, it's totally fine.
2022-08-18 10:47
> When is the best time to buy a gaming laptop? Literally never and surely not when those fucktards ask for so much to buy those pieces of crap, it's not worth it even slightly.
2022-08-18 10:51
Buy a Lenovo Legion instead. Best bang for the buck regarding price/performance and also great cooling. Gaming laptops today are great if you can't have a desktop PC.
2022-08-18 11:54
2 replies
yeah, I noticed Lenovo Legion is quite praised these days the reason I wanted the Dell instead is that Lenovo don't offer latest Intel/AMD processors here yet + I can get the Dell with a discount, so for me Dell offers the best price/performance
2022-08-18 12:07
1 reply
Aah I see, good arguement!
2022-08-18 13:37
SLOVAKE NA GRANATE
2022-08-18 11:57
#29
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Spain FKA
gaming lapotp worst purchase you can make, even worse than phone
2022-08-18 12:44
11 replies
Do you suggest buying both gaming PC and a casual laptop?
2022-08-18 12:58
10 replies
#32
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Spain FKA
yes, im typing this on a i7 4710mq gt830m 16gb ram laptop i bought on ebay for 330€ you can really get good deals on thinkpads and then spend whatever on a gaming pc which you can later upgrade, imo gaming laptops are too expensive and too obsolete for the power you get, you can have a rtx 9090 ti in there but it will only work at 100% for 3 seconds before it overheats
2022-08-18 13:00
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#34
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Spain FKA
i cant game game on this but i can play some light games if needed, or use the remote play steam function to play from anywhere using the main pc (R5 5600x)
2022-08-18 13:02
tbh I've never had a gaming PC, I've had Acer Nitro 5 with i5 8300H and GTX 1050 for 5 years now, bought it for like 800 euro back then even though Acer laptops are consider one of the worst, it's honestly been doing what I needed it to durability is starting to show NOW - after 4 years, the screen is kinda falling apart, but still works I thought about getting a PC, but as I said, I am still a student and need a portable device which can do more than just browse Internet and make presentations
2022-08-18 13:07
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#37
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Spain FKA
im stilll studying too and all my mates have those outrageously priced laptops, ive never seen them using them for more that programming and light 3d modelling, you should aim for 10 years not 4 on a computer by the way, if you stay somewhere near uni most of the work is going to be done at the dorm, dont fool yourself like everyone does, my sister bought a 1800 msi workstation and my 700 pc is 2x as fast rendering stuff in solidworks, if you need it buy it, but if you can wait until you get home to click the render button its much more worth the price to get a real pc and a laptop on the side, if you are handy with computers you can even offload to the one on your room by setting up a server, in my case ive never had to use more than my 8 core 16gb office laptop
2022-08-18 13:13
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the thing is i wanna study abroad for a semester next year, so that's pretty much the reason why i need portable i rarely bring pc to school + we've had online edu for years now laptop would give me much more flexibility, but it has to be powerful, last semester i started to have problems running software i needed for school (automatization, cae stuff) i guess i have to think about it again
2022-08-18 19:59
#39
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Spain FKA
also just look for thinkpads on ebay and you will find great deals with a million aftermarket parts, i changed my mobo bor 40 euro, wouldnt it be nice to chance the screen on your acer for like 60 euro?
2022-08-18 13:15
About heating, this used to be an issue with gaming laptops but the manufacturers have come a long way and that isn't an issue for Lenovos Legion-series atleast. I'm sure other decent brands have developed the cooling well aswell today.
2022-08-18 13:40
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#56
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Spain FKA
why pay for an overpriced mega engineered coling solution when you can strap a fan and a big hunk of metal and be done with it i really dont think gaming laptops are near the perfomance of a desktop price equivalent, and i dont think either the overpricing or the underperforming are worth my money
2022-08-18 13:42
1 reply
I think every sane person picks a desktop PC if they can but that kinda goes without saying. For some ppl a laptop is better regarding size and that you can actually bring it with you.
2022-08-19 09:07
#33
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Spain FKA
also about hte price of hardware normally the markdown is not worth it
2022-08-18 13:01
Never. Gaming Laptops really suck and are overpriced. If you want performance and mobility then buy both PC and a laptop or an iPad.
2022-08-18 13:14
1 reply
+1
2022-08-18 19:12
Answer yourself a question: Do you actually need to carry the laptop to university and do graphic design there? Or will you have some on-site labs to do it there? If you need to carry your stuff, then just buy some Lenovo. RTX 2060 is perfectly fine to play csgo on 300fps, 120hz. I don't know how about your 3d graphic design, but I doubt your uni will expect you to do some crazy shit that RTX 2060 can't handle. 16GB is enough, as the GPU will be your bottleneck anyway. If you don't need to carry your stuff, but just need something to make notes or presentations, just buy an iPad or some cheap laptop, and buy PC separately for your more engaging activities. But for God's sake, don't burn your money on Dell.
2022-08-18 13:35
12 replies
And remember that even with similar specs, a PC will always be better performant than a laptop, and way cheaper
2022-08-18 13:36
11 replies
+ About your macroeconomics question: this question is way above the paygrade of anyone on HLTV to really answer it. You can't predict this shit. Just buy what you need, whenever you need.
2022-08-18 13:38
1 reply
thank you for actually answering my question here i was pretty much decided what i am gonna buy, just wanted to know whether to wait or it doesn't really matter as I mentioned, I want the Dell device because I can get it at much better pricing I can get the G15 with 12700h and 3060 and faster RAM for lower price than Legion 5 with 5800h and 3060 (TDP on GPU is the same I think) also on the desktop/laptop topic - #91 I wanted to buy a decent PC once I finish school, until then the laptop would be enough, but idk, you guys are giving me second thought on that
2022-08-18 20:37
is it that big of a difference when portability comes into picture? I am talking about really good laptops like let's say 3060 rtx ryzen 6800h 140w with dynamic boost power supply(115+25) Even tho i myself plan to get a desktop. I really couldn't come up with something that pretty much decides pc over laptops. Only thing comes to mind is shit performance after few years.
2022-08-18 13:42
8 replies
If you can't make it without portability, you are pretty much forced to use laptop. Otherwise, PC is just always better in terms of price to performance ratio (unless we are speaking about Macbooks, which can be better than PC for the same price, for certain usages like programming). If you compare prices of roughly the same hardware in laptops and PC's, the PC will come on top. Plus you have to include those 'hidden' factors like thermal circulation and degradation over time.
2022-08-18 13:50
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#70
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Spain FKA
you can just install linux instead of shitdows and beat any macbook at half the price for school tier programming
2022-08-18 17:12
2 replies
Yep, can work for school tier programming
2022-08-18 19:19
1 reply
#90
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Spain FKA
and if he was going to do some high tier intensive shit his company/uni should provide him with something
2022-08-18 19:20
And there is also being able to upgrade a proper PC, with laptops there is little or even no way to upgrade and with some models you can't even replace the battery. On a PC it is really easy to do lots, like for example upgrade the GPU or add more storage or in some cases even swap the CPU.
2022-08-18 18:31
3 replies
#124
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Spain FKA
i swapped the cpu in my thinkpad
2022-08-23 18:25
2 replies
Let me guess - an older Thinkpad? In most cases everything is soldered or glued in laptops, some are even build like many phones ie. no way to open them up without special tools and possibly requiring a set of new fittings for you to put it back together.
2022-08-23 18:28
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#126
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Spain FKA
yeah i bought this t540p just beacuse of the upgrading capabilties, came with i5 8 gb ram 720p screen and i changed to a new mobo with gt830m top of the line 4 core i7 4810MQ 16gb ram and a 3k IPS screen, all plug and play besides the screen which needed a different cable, also removed the CD drive in favor of another 2.5" bay for a second ssd, he is a chonky boy but he is so fast ad they just dont make them like this anymore also swapped keyboard for a backllit one and trackpad which didnt work so i swapped back i bought this laptop with the idea of this build in mind though, im a sucker for upcycling and being able to upgrade my stuff i have the ram laying around, cpu gpu and mobo was just 120 euro from ebay and the screen another 60 euro, so roughly 500 for this even bought another spare mobo just in case for 34 euro (its stilll unbelievable how can parts be so cheap for this)
2022-08-23 18:39
#43
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Bulgaria K1r1to
" school stuff (3D modelling, programming, etc.)" LOL WTF
2022-08-18 13:37
4 replies
huh?
2022-08-18 15:15
3 replies
#67
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Bulgaria K1r1to
slovakian schools goated :OO
2022-08-18 15:41
2 replies
i meant uni, should have been more specific
2022-08-18 17:54
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#86
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Bulgaria K1r1to
ah ok
2022-08-18 19:07
I would suggest buy refurbished with Grade A since mostly they're the laptops that got barelly used and sent back (refunded) and then got factory reset, so you might as well save a lot of money. I got mine recently since I needed new laptop when I travel fairly cheap and it looks fully new. No scratches or anything.
2022-08-18 13:40
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#127
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Spain FKA
+1 smart man
2022-08-23 18:40
Just buy desktop or Macbook, the rest are just plain shit that last 2years max.
2022-08-18 13:39
buy ASUS better. Had 2 laptops in my life, they are ASUS and still working perfectly to this day
2022-08-18 13:39
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#54
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Czech Republic Evis1337
i bought $600 i5 lenovo ideapad in 2012 and my brother still uses it is his main lul
2022-08-18 13:42
1 reply
My 2010 i5 sony is working perfectly too LOL
2022-08-18 20:10
Gaming laptops are always awful. Shit thermals all of them. Buy desktop for gaming and mac for work.
2022-08-18 13:41
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#57
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Czech Republic Evis1337
why the fuck would he buy mac, its overpriced garbanzo
2022-08-18 13:43
3d modelling?
2022-08-18 13:43
1 reply
cad, cae, i didn't really try to be specific about it
2022-08-18 15:15
i bought lenovo ideapad gaming 3 i5 and i think the prices is pretty good
2022-08-18 15:47
1 reply
low tdp on the gpu tho therefore not the best performance i want raw power
2022-08-18 20:27
I've had an omen for a few years now and its fantastic 10/10 would recommend
2022-08-18 17:14
#72
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Germany noirGG
lol > gaming > laptop pick one
2022-08-18 17:16
1 reply
#93
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Czech Republic Evis1337
my old laplop ran 200-300 fps on mirage, i think it was fine., had external monitor for gaming at home too
2022-08-18 20:14
#73
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Australia Zilox
M1
2022-08-18 17:18
#77
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Brazil DIctionary
I would go for AMD Ryzen 6000 series for laptops, they are way above intel's.
2022-08-18 17:33
7 replies
tbh every single video, review or benchmark score I found on the Internet plays in favor of Alder Lake rather than Zen 3+
2022-08-18 18:12
6 replies
Sounds odd, maybe look some more.
2022-08-18 18:27
#94
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Czech Republic Evis1337
zen4 coming out literally in september? zen3 is 2 generations behind intel and its still on par with performance pretty much. and way more power efficient
2022-08-18 20:15
4 replies
good to know about power efficiency but how is it 2 gen behind? i'd say it's one gen difference i thought: zen3/5000 = intel 11000 zen3+/6000 = intel 12000 (alder lake) zen4/7000 = intel 13000 - both amd and intel coming in september if i am not mistaken
2022-08-18 20:23
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#104
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Czech Republic Evis1337
5600X was released when only 10th gen intel existed. now theres 12th gen intel and 13th gen is coming in a month. zen4 is coming in a month too, they will annihilate intel again for a couple of gens zen3+ is laptops only
2022-08-18 20:45
2 replies
ty for correction so I should get 6800H over 12700H, huh
2022-08-18 21:06
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#121
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Czech Republic Evis1337
Check benchmarks and shit from normal sources
2022-08-19 04:50
MACBOOK M1 M2 MASTERRACE WAY AHEAD OF SH** WINDOWS
2022-08-18 18:23
3 replies
Except it is a rotten Apple, which makes it overpriced, fragile and you're stuck running what Apple allows you to.
2022-08-18 18:26
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#95
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Czech Republic Evis1337
nono its bestest trust me i am a high schooler i get girls, its art school btw, i do design
2022-08-18 20:16
1 reply
LOL
2022-08-18 21:10
Gaming laptops are not for me. If I needed portable gaming then I would look into if perhaps I could have a compact gaming machine to lug around instead, but that of course only works if there is going to be monitor(s) and more where you're going. Regardless one think is important when looking at laptops, make sure to read the small print about specs! In many cases you'll find that say a 3060 GPU on a laptop is not the same as a 3060 GPU you find on a graphics card, as in the laptop GPU may be slower, has lower speed ram and its cooling may also be compromised meaning it will throttle not to overheat and/or its fan will be so loud it is just stupid. And it can be the same thing with GPU's. Like for example at work I had this really sweet ultra-portable with a Core i7 CPU, except it turns out a laptop Core i7 only has two cores making the machine something of a bad joke. Had it been a desktop CPU it would have been named a Core i3 or maybe even Pentium Gold.
2022-08-18 18:25
Never buy gaming laptop!!!!
2022-08-18 19:12
2 replies
i bought a budget one 4 yrs ago and ive been sattisfied
2022-08-18 20:24
It really depends. i own lenovo legion, works like a charm. however in the past i had asus rog strix and that in fact was crap.
2022-08-18 20:27
#100
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Cambodia CyBeRv!
I just saw This Asus TUF 15 today and i was super thrilled about what it has to offer price-wise I7 12650H 3050Ti 512 SSD 16 GB DDR5 ~$1400 Compared to the price range of 1000-2000 $ it's miles ahead of every other one i saw. If i have the funds shortly, might seriously concider it
2022-08-18 20:34
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2022-08-18 20:38
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#105
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Cambodia CyBeRv!
And what's the price? This one feom intel is a monster of a CPU don't at me, 4.6GhZ at TB with 10/6 cores/threads and rated 95+% for all 3 categories of use - I don't think anyone should be concidering anything else performance-wise
2022-08-18 20:43
3 replies
it depends on what components you choose, so the range is: From: 1400$ (5600H + rtx 3060) To:~2000$(5800H +rtx 3070) and rest components at max. Concerning comparison with your tuf15, 12650H is a clear winner, but i am not sure if 3050ti would not limit its potential, since you could get at least 3060 for the same money, you might wanna check some benchmarks. Also this lenovo is 17 inch 144hz. ps: there are options with your cpu (edit: better, but same price) like this: lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/legion-laptop.. it also has 16" 165hz, and 1TB ssd
2022-08-18 21:08
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#112
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Cambodia CyBeRv!
This one is 144Hz as well, has another slot for ssd (so theoretically you can get to that 1TB) Speaking about laptops it's extremely hard to get a super balanced build and me personally, would do the sacrifice of the GPU to get all the other components with optimal quality between each other If we talking gaming you'd rather have super powerful CPU and good graphics instead the other way around. The CPU does a lot more in fps that you can imagine (i do know that because it is my profession so no intend to disrespect with this) Anyway i think what i posted here money - performance wise is super hard to beat
2022-08-18 21:43
1 reply
Makes sense. J Just to make sure, link from #106 offers same and a bit more for the same price
2022-08-18 21:49
i can get the G15 for cheaper than that, it has 12700H, rtx3600 and ddr5 ram as well also whats the gpu tdp on the TUF?
2022-08-18 21:09
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#117
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Cambodia CyBeRv!
I'd personally go for this build i shared. If you are a laptop lover i think this is a super good offer
2022-08-18 22:20
Paying 1500-2000$ for gaming laptop is crazy,you get gaming PC with same specs for 1000$ and better performance and longevity
2022-08-18 20:40
#114
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Poland gobelin77
if u play csgo u need more Hz, trust me.
2022-08-18 21:50
1 reply
as stated, I use external monitor
2022-08-18 21:53
didn't read but now is a great time to by a base M2 Macbook Air. Gaming laptops are pointless
2022-08-18 22:24
if u wanna get rtx3060 get the one with 6gb vram. also different laptops have different TGP so u need to look into that, same card with diffferent TGP means different performance. i think it's better if u ask at /r/gaminglaptops subreddit, lenovo legion is apparently their favorite and most recommended laptop brand
2022-08-18 23:59
"When is the best time to buy a gaming laptop?" Never, the likelihood that you need high performance that can move is exceptionally low. You're going to buy a laptop and set it on a desk and move it less than once a year.
2022-08-23 18:46
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