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Most game changing team in csgo history
dupreeh | 
Denmark Number1_dupreeh_Fan 
what team do u think it is? Astralis only cuz of dupreeh What do u guys think it is?
2022-09-20 03:30
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Obviously Astralis, no one comes close
2022-09-20 03:31
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Don’t let this distract you from the fact that FaZe Clan choked a 15-11 lead in the CS:GO Boston Major Final on the final map, Inferno, giving C9 and NA their first Major
2022-09-20 03:34
4 replies
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2022-09-20 07:59
That was a good one until they won major Not it's not even funny anymore
2022-09-20 15:45
2 replies
Still is
2022-09-26 00:48
1 reply
NiKo still hasn't won a major and guardian never will, at least karrigan and rain finally got theirs
2022-09-26 03:26
hmm but astralis is in EU? 🤔
2022-09-20 06:37
2 replies
what bro?
2022-09-26 10:49
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kiwichad's sole purpose in this world is to hate on EU
2022-09-26 13:47
#2
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United States zovint
Eg
2022-09-20 03:33
#4
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
2nd is Sk because of how they revolutionised info gathering. but no.1 is Astralis because of how they revolutionised everything else, mainly utility.
2022-09-20 03:36
6 replies
#24
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
+1
2022-09-20 06:45
#30
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
1. Astralis ( #4 ) 2. Sk Gaming ( #4 ) 3. B1ad3 ( #23 the way teams prep now is insane. every team would watch demos and prepare for hours and hours, but now this is a way for players to remember tons of strats without having the igl or coach explain it everytime) 4. Avangar ( #20 ) 5. Fnatic (invented so many strats that teams do default now or built on later) 6. vitality for 6 player teams, I know it died but I still think this is the future.
2022-09-20 07:13
4 replies
#58
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Great list. ^^
2022-09-20 15:57
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#83
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
thanks
2022-09-20 22:15
#68
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Australia B_Tannen
7. Liquid 2019. Didn’t need a good AWPer to be competitive for the top.
2022-09-20 16:12
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#84
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
didnt really change the meta but good to point out anyways
2022-09-20 22:19
#5
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I would say the three teams I attribute to having era-defining dominance: NiP, fnatic and Astralis. Though honourable mentions obviously go out to the teams who had mini-eras, short periods of dominance and overall pushing the envelope in what is possible for simply being the worlds best team at that time, for however long that was. :) EDIT: Typographical error.
2022-09-20 03:37
20 replies
I’d actually say NaVi kinda had an era, and Liquid had a short one but that short one had a extreme amount of success
2022-09-20 03:37
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#7
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
They definitely had a period of dominance but "era-defining" is still contested according to many users because of the length of the overall dominance in question, when compared to the aforementioned teams who pioneered and defined the "era", in a sense. I still prefer 2010's Na'Vi over 2021's but that's just me. ;)
2022-09-20 03:39
18 replies
It was more MOUZ in 2010 but ok!
2022-09-20 03:40
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#12
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I prefer 2008 Mousesports relevancy but Na'Vi were THE team of 2010, no question about that.
2022-09-20 03:43
1 reply
Well i guess, but MOUZ in 2000s like early 2010s, MOUZ we’re defiantly more dominant
2022-09-20 03:43
Navi 2021>Navi 2010
2022-09-20 15:31
14 replies
#47
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I disagree but I respect your opinion.
2022-09-20 15:33
13 replies
NAVI 2021 won every LAN how can NAVI 2010 be better
2022-09-20 15:35
12 replies
#51
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Because it's subject to opinion, not fact. Both were as dominant as each other but I believe 2010 was more dominant, to which you disagree, which is perfectly fine.
2022-09-20 15:38
11 replies
If NAVI 2010 doesnt have %100 win rate they aint dominant
2022-09-20 15:41
10 replies
#54
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
They definitely were dominant in 2010, even without a "100% win rate" - Anybody who watched 2010 will tell you that and even checking Liquipedia will also do that for you. You're devaluing their accomplishments with illogical and attempted objectified arguments, for which I assume to be for baiting purposes.
2022-09-20 15:43
9 replies
March 8th - Natus Vincere win Intel Extreme Masters IV after beating Fnatic 2-0 in the finals. [2]July 4th - Natus Vincere win ESWC 2010 after beating SK Gaming 2-1 in the finals. [3]October 3rd - Natus Vincere win WCG 2010 after beating mTw 2-1 in the finals 3 events lmaooooooooooooo
2022-09-20 15:46
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#57
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
They won more than 3 events in 2010 but I understand your point. Na'Vi won 7 S-Tier events in 2021, which include a Major and an IGS; whereas in 2010 Na'Vi won 5 out of 11 S-Tier events that year in 1.6, plus all 3 of the 1.6 Major tournaments that were won by Na'Vi alone: liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Counter-Str.. You are allowed to disagree with my opinion and I to am allowed to disagree with your opinion. EDIT: General corrections.
2022-09-20 15:56
7 replies
There is no majors in 1.6
2022-09-20 15:58
4 replies
#62
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Yes and no. Also that is completely irrelevant to the point that I made. They weren't Valve sponsored or regarded as Majors really until CS:GO but at the time, they were the biggest tournaments of that time and therefore were regarded as the Major tournaments.
2022-09-20 16:01
3 replies
They are just big events There is no majors in 1.6
2022-09-20 16:02
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#65
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Again, you aren't wrong and I literally just explained to you the technicality. If you aren't going to read my posts, then why respond?
2022-09-20 16:04
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7 out of 7 is better than 5 out of 11 Or i dont know maths
2022-09-20 16:07
If you count 1.6 events majors Then IEM cologne 2021 and Blast Global Final is major as well
2022-09-20 16:01
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#64
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
They are big tournaments or Major tournaments, not "CS:GO Majors or Major World Championships". It also explains this on Liquipedia.
2022-09-20 16:03
"Astralis only cuz of dupreeh" Based He deserved MVP at IEM Kato 2019
2022-09-20 03:40
5 replies
he deserved major mvp and iem Kato, just like how hooxi deserves EPL mvp no joke
2022-09-20 03:41
4 replies
+1 based dupreeh fan
2022-09-20 03:42
Pls let them play epl before giving mvp awards, no?
2022-09-20 15:33
1 reply
HooXi 5-0 goat he deserves mvp
2022-09-20 15:34
based
2022-09-20 16:21
#14
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Germany RIP_MY_NIP
G2 Hooxi era will be the most game changing period in CS:GO history. Nothing will come close. Hooxi has already revolutionised map-control, AWP positioning, utility usage, anti-stratting, smoke-plays, slow rounds and ninja defusing. His only challenge now is to get under 10 kills in an epic 3-0 blowout win in the EPL grand final.
2022-09-20 03:52
2 replies
Goat flair
2022-09-20 03:54
decoy era
2022-09-20 08:00
SK (more brain meta) Astralis (utility meta) NaVi (star players meta)
2022-09-20 04:06
6 replies
SK Brazilian spirit meta
2022-09-20 06:18
#25
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
NaVi basically took astralis formula and added the GOAT.
2022-09-20 06:46
#28
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
+1 except the last part
2022-09-20 07:08
3 replies
Your right I should’ve said NaVi (note taking meta)
2022-09-20 07:14
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#34
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
+1 Only issue with star players meta is faze did it first. 2018 and it failed miserably and I still dont think its a good meta
2022-09-20 07:20
1 reply
FaZe’s issue was that they never had a coach to prevent them from choking like b1ad3. B1ad3 is insane, I don’t think I’ve seen more than 2 or 3 tac pauses that led to losses from him. I’m sure he’s also contributing a lot to these note packets
2022-09-20 07:32
1. NiP around Antwerp
2022-09-20 06:23
#20
DaDte | 
Russia bult0
That will be a controversial point, but it's Avangar. Ever since Berlin more and more teams play slow, focus on saving and building economy, don't forget Avangar smokes on d2 that are still used 3 years after. Later on yekindar showed how entryfragger can solo win games as well, only fer could compare back in 2017. People are memeing this team, but they actually turned cs around
2022-09-20 06:37
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#26
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Good take. Jame Time has a shifted meta towards saving more as people have understood the importance of Hero gun. Underrated game change. May not work always but still crucial.
2022-09-20 06:48
#29
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Only controversial by people who dont know the game. Very good take I completely forgot about avangar and wish I added them to my list. +1
2022-09-20 07:08
Jame is very under appreciated he’s like cadiaN but much smarter and composed
2022-09-20 07:13
1 reply
And instead of adderall he takes nyquil
2022-09-26 01:03
#67
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Australia B_Tannen
Would this be more NaVi? Because they played like that earlier.
2022-09-20 16:11
not #1 but very true nonetheless
2022-09-20 16:22
#88
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Scotland Raziel1911
Astralis already did the calculated economy plays before Avangar hit the scene.
2022-09-26 01:00
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#98
DaDte | 
Russia bult0
Yet Avangar absoluted it, especially after them more and more teams picked up that style
2022-09-26 10:15
1 reply
Believe what you want to believe my friend. When other teams started doing it is irrelevant. Took teams forever to catch up to Astralis' level anyway.
2022-09-27 21:35
bump :3
2022-11-20 13:27
obvious answer is g2 but complexity with junior was pretty strong too
2022-09-20 06:37
Astralis no doubt, after their success, everyone started to find new ways to use utilities. It changed the game, slowing everything and showing one or two well placed smoke can save you a game. They were so good everyone cried at Glaive using smoke hacks. Second would be fnatic for me, the way they changed style and tempo mid game surprising everyone is probably the reason we have so many good clutches today.
2022-09-20 06:38
Although I’m not a big fan of theirs, NAVI, you never saw whole teams have whole ass packets before their games and now everyone does after NAVI.
2022-09-20 06:41
2 replies
packets?
2022-09-20 16:43
1 reply
Like written packets of notes
2022-09-26 00:42
#27
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
1. Astralis ... defining Modern Day Csgo 2. SK ... The Info gathering meta 3. Fnatic ... when they came. Everyone tried to emulate whatever fnatic was doing and no one understood what it was. Probably not even them. And no. 4 I think this going to be the NEXT team meta. FAZE redefining how international team can be contructed and made functional. I think mouz took notes from them and found some success in both Cologne and in EPL.
2022-09-20 06:53
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I don't feel fnatic deserves to be there, they dominated through decent mid-round reads and raw aim, I don't recall people drastically changing their game style. I would say some more deserving of that spot are 2015 Na Vi, their way of playing around a more passive star AWPer I feel was revolutionary or 2013 NiP, who's play style ended up being the only way to play for nearly 2 years. Maybe even 2015 TSM
2022-09-20 07:43
Nip introduced the lurk role.
2022-09-20 07:15
#35
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Czech Republic JameS_19
Obviously Astralis, this can’t even be a question
2022-09-20 07:21
2018,2019 astralis
2022-09-20 07:34
obviously Splyce and Slemmy
2022-09-20 07:42
1 reply
revolutionary
2022-09-20 07:43
#41
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World NukestrikE
I would definitely go with astralis as number one for obvious reasons. Number 2 is to me (and I'm kinda surprised that noone even mentioned them) faze bcs of that international "super team" thing(we could also go with mouz and their budget "super teams" with players from worse teams/fpl players). There are a pretty decent amount of teams trying this path like G2, vitality, ence, fnatic, nip, og and there will be more and more international lineups
2022-09-20 07:55
Olofmeister
2022-09-20 08:12
Current FaZe with GOATKY
2022-09-20 08:14
#52
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Russia eRuFFle
Definitely Astralis, mb Nip from 87-0 run. They were just on another level
2022-09-20 15:39
Astralis prime
2022-09-20 15:59
#69
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Europe jigglep33k
i dont think teams change the meta its players who change the meta. like nbk who played with aug/krieg way before anyone else did.
2022-09-20 16:15
#70
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Uzbekistan R_Sick
SK, Faze, Astralis, Flipsid3, Avangar, NaVi, Vega Squadron
2022-09-20 16:16
#71
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Russia Sviddaniye
Optic India, IBP and Titans with KQLY
2022-09-20 16:19
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#77
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Guyana KoldfuR1a
Epsilon and Akuma?
2022-09-20 16:29
3 replies
#78
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Russia Sviddaniye
+1 and SKADE with bulgarians
2022-09-20 16:30
2 replies
#79
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Guyana KoldfuR1a
what did skade wrong?
2022-09-20 16:33
1 reply
#80
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Russia Sviddaniye
Check what pros thinks about them and check comments in every SKADE matchpage))))
2022-09-20 16:36
I might give it to the current Faze team as it seems since they started winning everyone is going international.
2022-09-20 16:19
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#75
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World NukestrikE
this is not true. g2 went international before it with nexa and hunter and same goes for vitality(and it was their plan for like a year before they went international already). mouz, og and ence were all already international as well
2022-09-20 16:29
#76
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Guyana KoldfuR1a
LG/SK
2022-09-20 16:28
NiP both era's
2022-09-20 16:39
swedish scene in early era
2022-09-26 00:45
1. Astralis 2. Early csgo NIP 3. Avangar 4. Luminosity/SK
2022-09-26 01:06
What if a new team does a new meta which is no awper just 5 insane riflers?
2022-09-26 01:16
1 reply
Liquid did that already. Doesn't really work in the long run
2022-09-26 03:11
2019 ence with tactical genius igl meta
2022-09-26 03:03
#93
mimi | 
Scotland Triqay
Fnatic 2015
2022-09-26 03:05
I'd say cluj-napoca G2/Faze, because they were the first international team to actually achieve something. They showed that it's possible in CS too, to have international teams on the top. It was a thing in LoL already, but not in CS. Now, because of them, it's normal to have these teams competing for the most important titles. And the second team would be 2018 Astralis. Simply, because of the utility usage 2015 fnatic or 2016 LG/SK didn't really change anything. They were just the best at the time.
2022-09-26 03:17
astralis , fnatic , sk/lumi
2022-09-26 03:23
Blad3 move to Navi
2022-09-26 10:29
#104
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Georgia Nickk8k_
Eternal fire, by kicking teammates after every lose, than taking tham back, by kicking another teammate 🤣
2022-11-20 13:34
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