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Tell a player I say is he under/fairly/over rated
Finland Anatti 
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2022-09-23 10:38
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Me
2022-09-23 10:39
3 replies
100% underrated, every flamie fan goat of cs
2022-09-23 10:41
2 replies
I say stewie2k, mezzi, and floppy.
2022-09-23 11:41
1 reply
Over, under, fairly
2022-09-23 17:45
Dj kaos
2022-09-23 10:39
5 replies
Imo bit overrated, takes away listeners from dj KHALED!
2022-09-23 10:42
4 replies
ANOTHER ONE
2022-09-23 11:52
3 replies
i prefer mr worldwide
2022-09-23 14:09
2 replies
who dis
2022-09-24 21:46
1 reply
pitbullll
2022-09-25 03:51
John Flick
2022-09-23 10:40
3 replies
John wicks cousin, John Flick is imo fairlyrated, everyone should take some inspiration from his flicks
2022-09-23 10:43
2 replies
#302
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China Zmjjkk
How can they be cousins with different surnames?
2022-09-24 14:42
1 reply
wtf you mean, I have like 10 cousins who have different surname than I do? I don't know how is cousin defined in China, but here in Europe it is your parents' siblings' children.
2022-09-24 14:44
#5
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Sweden ALVO
TeSeS Draken Yekindar
2022-09-23 10:41
11 replies
TeSeS is underrated, he isn't the most shiny player, but every team needs a player like TeSeS. He doesn't take anything away from the team, but can make huge plays in some rounds. Rifle player constantly putting +1.10 rating is also inspiring, when you don't play star roles. Draken is in my books fairlyrated. We have seen that he is a weapon in tier 2-3 cs, but he is inconsistent. I think he is same kind of player like Mario Balotelli from football. He can have couple of insane performances in the highest level, but he can't keep his level up like would need to. Yekindar is a hard one, he is somewhere between fairlyrated and underrated. Yekindar brings a whole new level to his teams, due his aggressive style of play. Yekindar has shown to be wise player as well and it is not coincidence that Liquid has played way better with Yekindar than with shox. Still Yekindar gets a lot of praise, from the community, so keep my first answer.
2022-09-23 10:51
10 replies
#20
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Sweden ALVO
Very good summary Anatti :)
2022-09-23 10:53
1 reply
Thanks mate
2022-09-23 11:20
I'd say draken has improved a lot and is far more consistent now than he was only a few years ago. A bit underrated today
2022-09-23 11:23
5 replies
#88
REZ | 
Sweden gNeJS
Used to play T1 and he doesnt carry in T3 now, imo it might be the opposite.
2022-09-23 12:00
4 replies
I mean 1.18 is really good. And imo he wasnt ready for t1 in 2017/18. He went straight from tier 3 to tier 1. Now his playstyle is more polished and refined.
2022-09-23 13:12
3 replies
#121
REZ | 
Sweden gNeJS
Alright 1.18 is pretty good actually, my bad.
2022-09-23 13:44
2 replies
not good enough for t1.
2022-09-23 19:00
1 reply
#254
REZ | 
Sweden gNeJS
No ofc not, but 1.18 is still a good rating in t3.
2022-09-23 21:14
Youre absolutely right about Yekindar. Amazing player, but everyone acknowledges that haha
2022-09-23 11:43
#314
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
I agree with your points, but Yekindar is in no way underrated
2022-09-24 16:54
Plopski🥰
2022-09-23 10:41
6 replies
Plopski is fairlyrated he is good player don't get me wrong, but when you team wants to compete in a highest level you can't have player like plopski who is struggling hard against the best teams. Still he has potential and playing dog roles is hard, also you always know what you get out of him, but it is not enough if you want to win tournaments.
2022-09-23 10:55
4 replies
that's fair, still the goat tho
2022-09-23 10:56
#85
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Sweden quacke
To add to the debate I think Plopski just didn't fit into the system once hampus came into the team and took his preferred roles. If you check Plopski's stats on NIP before hampus joining, he averages 1.11 in 156 maps, and if you check his stats after hampus joining he averages 1.00 in 410 maps. Big difference. And we know he had to move roles when hampus joined as well.
2022-09-23 11:57
2 replies
Was he entry? Pre hampus?
2022-09-23 19:18
#267
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Netherlands arTvamp
Simple nip wasnt facing off as much against the very top before hampus joined hence plopski rating. Stats always tell half the story its for people who struggle to see the bigger picture, details and have good estimations, feel for it in general.
2022-09-23 22:38
Im happy they finally -trainwreck, botski not even tier 5
2022-09-23 19:49
zywoo shiro frozen
2022-09-23 10:42
9 replies
Zywoo and Shiro are both fairly rated there is nothing you could argue with. Both putting up crazy number with crazy efficiency. Insane players, but they have got the credit they deserve. Frozen is the other hand is criminally underrated, I can't understand how he isn't in top 3 rfile conversation in most peoples' minds. Frozen is absolutely a top top rifle in the world, but he isn't being spoken enough.
2022-09-23 11:05
8 replies
#53
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Australia poppyxox
now that mouz is getting good again he will get more representation there was plenty of frozen talk back when mouz was winning trophies
2022-09-23 11:26
5 replies
true true, but back then he was kind of prodigy. Like he was upcoming star, but when Mouz fell off, frozen talks fell off as well
2022-09-23 11:47
4 replies
talks fell of because frozen did. he isnt a star player. more like your solid rifler like magisk.
2022-09-23 19:03
3 replies
1.16 rating whole 2022 as a rifle, is more like a star numbers for me. Sure if he played in a better team his numbers would get down a bit, but he is for sure a star rifle for every team.
2022-09-23 19:11
2 replies
1.08 vs top 5 opponents (19 maps) 1.08 vs top 10 opponents (43 maps) sorry but no.
2022-09-23 19:55
1 reply
You are missing a huge thing about you argument. MOUZ is still as a team far from those top 5 teams, whatever HLTV ranking says. When your team is not at the same level, it will automatically affect you stats because your team's game won't run like it should.
2022-09-23 20:03
I think on HLTV specifically Sh1ro has a bad rep as an onliner due to Gambit in the summer of 2021 having a pretty poor transition into LAN But now I think Ax1le and Sh1ro have proven they're still an absolute force on LAN
2022-09-23 11:44
1 reply
#81
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Australia poppyxox
both have similar stats on LAN and online so yeah so far so good
2022-09-23 11:52
broky
2022-09-23 10:43
10 replies
Broky is a hard one. Like mister Smooya said any top 10 awper could put up good numbers in Faze, but I don't think you can find a player with that kind of clutch potential and unpredictability from the whole scene if simple and zywoo are not included. Still I would say he is a bit overrated, but just a bit. People say top 3 awp, but I don't know that are they smoking if they put Broky over simple, zywoo and shiro, top 5 nevertheless.
2022-09-23 11:10
9 replies
Reasonable answer
2022-09-23 11:17
4 replies
what would you add or delete? what do you think about broky?
2022-09-23 11:25
3 replies
I think he plays smart. Skillwise not top 3 but the awareness of surroundings makes him better than for example shiro m0nesy jame or syrson. Surely some of it comes from all of the 5 players reading game well but when you watch the broky clutches, other faze players don't have to talk or micromanage at all but this speculation is mainly from the viewer point of view and what the cameras show during the plays. Would be cool to listen full gameplay voice chat. Overall I do agree with everything on your reply.
2022-09-23 11:32
2 replies
Have you checked out Karrigan's voice comms videos they are good and gives you a little guide how they think game
2022-09-23 11:35
1 reply
Not that much. Mainly some single round comms. I should get into it.
2022-09-23 11:44
You do realize that when ppl say top 3 they're saying S1mple > Zywoo > Broky. Not sure your 'but I don't know that are they smoking if they put Broky over simple, zywoo and shiro, top 5 nevertheless.' made any sense here bud. Other than that, i agree that he is top 5. ( Not top 3 imo ) I agree with your points and i doubt that replaacing him would do any good to faze. He's doing the middround calls with twistzz on t side since blast btw Anyway, good thread. Problably the best i've seen in the past month. To not create another topic below. What do you think about sh1ro / spinx?
2022-09-23 13:41
2 replies
he meant "I don't know that are they smoking if they put Broky over simple, zywoo OR shiro, top 5 nevertheless" 1. simple 2. shiro 3. zywoo 4. broky
2022-09-23 17:54
yeah little miss spelling there, thanks I have spent a lot of time here and I am glad you like it. I have covered both spinx and shiro in this thread already, use ctrl+f so you find my analysis
2022-09-24 13:45
Top 5 awpers in no order X1mple Xywuu X1iro Maonixi Braoki
2022-09-23 22:21
HooXi
2022-09-23 10:44
2 replies
Say what you want, but underrated. He is individually a tier 3 dog role player, but he can lead his team that is for sure. G2 have shown some good results even with Hooxi's awful performances which shows that his leading is working. Also leading a team like CPH to success isn't easy. Hooxi will make a good coach and I'm hoping our GIGACHAD retires soon so I don't need to watch him play. Still way better igl than people are saying
2022-09-23 11:24
1 reply
+1. But he has been showing decent form recently. I think we give them some more time and see how EPL playoffs go. This G2 has huge potential imo
2022-09-23 21:06
#12
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Finland TulinSisaa
Aerial
2022-09-23 10:45
2 replies
My nationality can affect my opinion, but he is underrated. One time tournament MVP in top 2 team in the world should get more credit. Aerial is showing god tier stats in tier 3, but I would say he has fuel in a tank for a last top 20 run. Some tier 1-2 team should get this guy and use him in a entry role and results might be good, not insane but good.
2022-09-23 11:15
1 reply
#43
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Finland TulinSisaa
+1, chad Aerial deserves comeback to high tier scene
2022-09-23 11:16
Hunter
2022-09-23 10:48
1 reply
fairlyrated, player with two top 20 players in the world runs is world class, but he hasn't won anything yet. If g2 keeps playing like that with hooxi Hunter will get more credit out of his performances, but winning is THE thing. Playing behind Niko isn't easy and in some matches Hunter is way better than Niko, its not common, but for example in katowice final Hunter was way better than Niko was.
2022-09-23 11:20
Sh1ro Pashabiceps
2022-09-23 10:49
1 reply
Shiro is probably underrated right now, is not close to top 2 but is really good compared to other t1 awpers. Pashabiceps - As a player, was probably fairly rated back in 2014, had ton of impact for winning VP their only major. Nowadays people seem to underrate legends of past however.
2022-09-24 13:45
Vladimir Putin
2022-09-23 10:50
2 replies
worst IGL since Jesus
2022-09-23 10:51
1 reply
I totally agree, I would also like to mention Mao Zedong, but they have their own competition.
2022-09-23 11:00
Bot allu God allu
2022-09-23 10:51
1 reply
both overrated
2022-09-23 11:07
kauez
2022-09-23 10:51
1 reply
academy players are hard to rank, because their competition is mainly in academy leagues and matches. I would say fairlyrated, he ain't being spoken much but it is understandable because he isn't ready for better teams right now. Still people know his talent and potential which makes him fairlyrated
2022-09-24 14:34
ZywOo Xyp9x Farlig Lucky (danish lucky) Spike Gla1ve
2022-09-23 10:55
1 reply
underrated underrated fairly rated overrated (whenever people are complaining about Farlig, otherwise fairly rated) idk overrated
2022-09-23 11:58
#22
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Indonesia polyglot
AleksiB, AleksiB and AleksiB also some people think k0nfig is tier1 kek
2022-09-23 10:55
14 replies
prove to me that you're a polyglot
2022-09-23 10:57
10 replies
#26
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Indonesia polyglot
hej
2022-09-23 10:57
9 replies
tjena snygging
2022-09-23 10:58
8 replies
#33
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Indonesia polyglot
jag pratar polska, engelska, franska och lite svenska, jag är mer en wannabe-polyglot
2022-09-23 11:06
7 replies
hahah it's not like you write a sentence in swedish mate
2022-09-23 13:51
6 replies
#126
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Indonesia polyglot
what ???
2022-09-23 13:52
#128
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Indonesia polyglot
just add "som" between mer and wannabe and it is perfectly correct
2022-09-23 13:57
4 replies
that's whatn I meant
2022-09-23 13:59
3 replies
#130
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Indonesia polyglot
I know my Swedish is not perfect, I can make mistakes, do you live in Sweden?
2022-09-23 13:59
2 replies
nope but 've been learning for 6 months
2022-09-23 18:29
Both work so it doesn't matter what you wrote. Good job
2022-09-23 18:51
Aleksib is bit too overrated, but not much. You know you have done something wrong when the first results with your team are better than with results in time. G2 wasn't his place and he didn't do good job there. Also there are more factors which could have affected their team's success. If we speak about OG aleksib I would say underrated, I just hope he comes back stronger than ever :) Copium level is all time high
2022-09-23 10:59
2 replies
#35
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Indonesia polyglot
idk man, i am scared that nip is going to suck now which would be super sad because it is the last strong swedish team
2022-09-23 11:08
1 reply
Yeah that is true, one thing is sure they need awp
2022-09-23 11:11
#30
NiKo | 
United Kingdom fl0ws
goat NiKo?
2022-09-23 11:01
6 replies
Not goat that's for sure, but the best rifle individually, but not goat. Niko is one of the most skilled player and also wise af individually, but something is wrong when you team loses with him. I think he has a lot of selfishness in his game which affects their team's success. Niko is maybe a bit overrated, because I personally value winning the most. If g2 start winning events and maybe major, then this conversation turns upside down, but for now I would say overrated
2022-09-23 11:40
5 replies
#138
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
G2 don't even come close to winning without NiKo. NiKo is literally the most unlucky rifler in all of CS in that he has to play in international teams. The only actual, successful, international team is Faze and that's after countless roster changes. G2 never make the Major Grand-Finals without NiKo, same being said about many of his other finals
2022-09-23 17:24
2 replies
Yeah I didn't say that roster would make to finals without him, its not all his fault but there is something wrong when you have played with multiple different igls and none of them have worked
2022-09-23 18:30
1 reply
#268
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Netherlands arTvamp
True but i still would argue niko is fairly rated. So many top places throughout the years. He can still become the csgoat if g2 starts dominating. And if simple falls off. His in the running niko, could surpass device and simple. Another threat is zywoo if vitality starts winning plenty of events. He gets a lot of backlash but also praise. So imo fairly rated.
2022-09-23 22:49
#316
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
goat riffle is good compromise.
2022-09-24 16:58
1 reply
+1
2022-09-24 17:52
BaitF Comedian
2022-09-23 11:05
4 replies
overrated fairly rated
2022-09-23 11:08
#38
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Indonesia polyglot
+1 baitF, he is the ultimate stathunter, people just look at the numbers and asuume that he is the gamechanger while in fact most of his kills have no impact
2022-09-23 11:11
BaitF - Most overrated pro in t1 cs (Idk about t2 or lower so) Cadian - People don't really say he is a great awper or IGL, but he is regarded as a decent combination of both. Personally not a fan of his antics, but he is fairly rated
2022-09-24 13:47
#317
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Blamef is underrated, and I'm now quite annoyed that I wasted my thread on G2 Carlos instead of that
2022-09-24 16:58
#40
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Germany Alsimi
f0rest
2022-09-23 11:12
3 replies
Prime F0rest is hard to rate cuz first of all I didn't watch cs back then and 2nd of all competition level was way lower. Nowadays F0rest is imo underrated. He is good player with A LOT of experience under his belt so why doesn't some young team acquire him? Forest has still top 20 capabilities, it just comes to his motivation level, is he ready to do a lot of hard work.
2022-09-23 11:29
2 replies
by top20 you mean a top20 team right? Cause there is no way in the world that he would make the top 20 as a player
2022-09-23 21:43
1 reply
#269
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Netherlands arTvamp
Phoe with the right team i could even argue him becoming top20 player.
2022-09-23 22:51
OCEAN
2022-09-23 11:16
Elige
2022-09-23 11:16
1 reply
Historically, underrated - he has been probably NAs most consistent rifler for a long period. Currently not near his peak though
2022-09-24 13:49
Nbk
2022-09-23 11:19
2 replies
I don't know mate, he is so inconsistent and weird player. He has some good numbers, but he makes some stupid things that can cost the game. All-time he is fairlyrated, but right know I don't know :D
2022-09-23 11:32
Overrated. Ego issues apparently
2022-09-24 13:49
xseveN
2022-09-23 11:23
2 replies
Underrated
2022-09-23 11:26
covered already you can find my opinions by ctrl+f and write the player's name :)
2022-09-24 19:49
Nex
2022-09-23 11:33
1 reply
The german Nex or do you mean Nexa. German dude no fucking idea
2022-09-23 11:42
#60
FMz | 
Belgium rpRj
reading this title gave me a headache
2022-09-23 11:36
3 replies
My title, underrated :D. only Belgians with low iq can't understand
2022-09-23 11:41
2 replies
#87
FMz | 
Belgium rpRj
Is this supposed to be some kind of weird ass diss? Cause I understand it perfectly. Its just written in broken english and without decent punctuation. Didnt wanna say this cause I that would be a dick move, thats why I said it gave me a headache. But might aswell say it if you reply like that *shrugs shoulders*
2022-09-23 11:58
1 reply
I am just kidding man, I know my English isn't at the best level, but can you expect from a high schooler.
2022-09-23 12:32
K0nfig
2022-09-23 11:38
1 reply
K0nfig is bit overrated, he is a top top rifle in some matches, but there is the problem "in some matches". Konfig is inconsistent and every team needs consistency which is hard to get from konfig. Still at his best a crazy dude who can dominate the whole game, but you don't know when you get that out of him.
2022-09-23 11:45
NiKo
2022-09-23 11:40
2 replies
I cleared this out above, go check it out
2022-09-23 11:43
covered already you can find my opinions by ctrl+f and write the player's name :)
2022-09-24 19:49
#64
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Sweden txshirx
Liazz
2022-09-23 11:40
3 replies
I haven't seen him play in ages, but back in Renegades times he somehow always found a way to get multikills out of bad situations so with my very tiny details of him he is underrated. Could still be a x factor for a top 20 team, but is not in a team shuffle conversation
2022-09-23 12:17
2 replies
Liazz mega overrated. Look at extremum without jks. Liazz should be good on renegades but he really isnt.
2022-09-23 19:13
1 reply
I trust in you, because you have 100% surely a better knowledge about Australian cs than I have. Still there just was something that liazz did years ago, he took every single multikill chance he got
2022-09-23 19:15
sdy
2022-09-23 11:41
4 replies
underrated, sdy is playing bad roles, but still can have his own moments to shine. Is he a perfect fit for NaVi, no is the answer, but he is only realistic option available.
2022-09-23 12:14
3 replies
extremely overrated bot get yourself together man
2022-09-23 15:59
1 reply
Can you explain why?
2022-09-23 16:40
#270
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Netherlands arTvamp
Agree. Sdy underrated.
2022-09-23 22:53
fRoD
2022-09-23 11:41
flameZ 🥰
2022-09-23 11:45
2 replies
Flamez is underrated. Young player making his way to an insane rifle, but not being spoken much is weird for me. Flamez's ability to get entries and also close tight rounds is special for a young guy
2022-09-23 12:03
1 reply
couldnt agree more
2022-09-23 14:08
Waylander
2022-09-23 11:45
6 replies
A Finn turning Russian, a snake only thing I can say
2022-09-23 11:49
5 replies
fair, but how do you think he was at cs?
2022-09-23 13:22
#141
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Finland Miroyev
I mean if I remember correctly he was about 5 years old when he moved to Russia. He also went to Finnish army in 2015
2022-09-23 17:40
3 replies
I was joking man
2022-09-23 18:26
2 replies
#152
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Finland Miroyev
Sure, just figured not many knew about that stuff cause he's not that well known anymore :D
2022-09-23 18:29
1 reply
roger that
2022-09-23 18:44
Azuwu Kvem
2022-09-23 11:50
#82
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Twistzz
2022-09-23 11:55
15 replies
Overrated as fuck just like the rest of the NA scene
2022-09-23 11:55
9 replies
#91
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
no one asked you
2022-09-23 12:04
2 replies
No one asked you to exist
2022-09-24 00:08
1 reply
#279
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
2 people did at least I think 4 did actually though
2022-09-24 02:07
#170
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Portugal OwnedBro
I swear you fake flag fiji people are the worst kind of hltv
2022-09-23 18:55
4 replies
Second only to you wannabe burgers who would do anything for an American citizenship
2022-09-24 00:08
3 replies
#278
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Portugal OwnedBro
Nah, i dont like america at all
2022-09-24 01:02
2 replies
Based!
2022-09-24 20:40
1 reply
#370
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Portugal OwnedBro
Its true
2022-09-24 21:41
#178
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North America minte
smartest fiji flagger
2022-09-23 19:02
Twitszz is right now fairlyrated to bit underrated, but when he came to Faze he was underrated. Twistzz is mechanically a beauty just like he is in real life ;) and also a guy who can give ideas to the team. Great comms, insane aim with huge frag potential and also can make space for his teammates and close rounds by himself. Perfect rifler if you ask me.
2022-09-23 12:06
3 replies
#99
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
+1 to everything
2022-09-23 12:22
1 reply
+1 to you too
2022-09-23 12:38
#271
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Netherlands arTvamp
+1
2022-09-23 22:55
Fairly rated as a star rifler. Maybe overrated post Cologne due to the MVP brigade
2022-09-24 13:50
tabseN
2022-09-23 11:56
2 replies
Underrated as a rifler. Probably fairly rated as an IGL
2022-09-24 13:51
Tabsen is underrated in every way in my opinion. Tabsen is good fragger for Igl and his role also he makes worse players look better. Tabsen isn't maybe the best igl tactically, but somehow Big have won better teams in past, which shows that he understands his opponents well. Lately Tabsen and Big have not showed that, but I think they will get their game running again.
2022-09-24 14:31
The big squad
2022-09-23 12:04
#92
REZ | 
Sweden gNeJS
Read the entire thread and really impressed by your answers Anatti. Can you give me your opinion on Rez?
2022-09-23 12:06
2 replies
Appreciate it, means a lot to hear someone gets something from my writings. REZ is overrated in my opinion at this point of his career. His level is way too inconsistent for a star rifle, also Brollan's addition has affected Rez's level which is sad to see. REZ reminds me a lot of k0nfig in a way that they can carry your team in some matches, but in the next be a bottom. REZ has everything a rifle/hybrid player needs except consistency. Still a lot of potential and I am looking forward to see how Aleksib can use his skill set.
2022-09-23 12:13
1 reply
#122
REZ | 
Sweden gNeJS
Alright good take. Imo he is fairly rated because everybody already say he is overrated, so then he cant be overrated anymore if you understand what i mean. Tbh i think he will surprise people in the AWP role.
2022-09-23 13:47
#94
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Czech Republic Crusik
Hunter Karrigan BlameF
2022-09-23 12:07
1 reply
I cleared Hunter above, but let's speak about karrigan and Balmef Karrigan the best igl in the world is underrated. I don't know why but always top top igls are undervalued and criticized. Karrigan is hands down chasing glaive at the igl goat status, but he isn't there yet. A guy who has lead 3 teams to top 1 spot is a record which will stand for a long time. BalmeF is overrated. Balmef takes a lot of meaningless frags, plastic frags, bait frags what ever you want to call them, but the is a good individual. I would like to see him play more like Ropz type of lurker who makes a difference in every round. Blame can turn one round here and there upside down, but those rounds should be more common if they want to compete as team.
2022-09-23 12:25
#98
REZ | 
Sweden pevzz
fang, rez, aleksib, slaxz, SaVage and me :)
2022-09-23 12:21
4 replies
rez and aleksib I have cleared above. I am very sorry, but I have nothing to say about Savage and slaxz cuz I haven't seen them play that much, only couple of matches. fang is promising young player, but maybe bit overrated. NA fans screaming like he is the next ropz is weird for me and I can't see that from him. I hope he can have a bright future.
2022-09-23 12:27
3 replies
#103
REZ | 
Sweden pevzz
fair enough
2022-09-23 12:28
2 replies
sorry man if I look tier 2-3 cs I look at Havu's games and Events where Finnish teams play
2022-09-23 12:30
1 reply
#106
REZ | 
Sweden pevzz
Understandable
2022-09-23 12:30
xyp9x
2022-09-23 12:23
2 replies
underrated, playing the worst roles imaginable and still doing so much for his team. Stats makes him look like a trash can, but in reality he is a huge factor of Astralis' wins
2022-09-23 12:28
1 reply
#272
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Netherlands arTvamp
+1
2022-09-23 22:57
Kscerato
2022-09-23 12:34
1 reply
I think kscerato gets the credit he deserves, I would say fairly rated. Good rifle, would fit in every team and also makes difference in every game. He is a guy you know what you will get. Consistent player and still more potential to be even better.
2022-09-23 12:38
#109
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United States Hillfear
Kyojin
2022-09-23 12:34
3 replies
covered somewhere in this thread you can find my opinions about him by ctrl+f and write the player's name :)
2022-09-24 19:48
2 replies
#357
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United States Hillfear
No, you did not!
2022-09-24 20:19
1 reply
My bad, I though I spoke about him but it seems I have made a mistake. I raise my hand for a mistake. Kyojin is fairlyrated player. Everybody knows he isn't/wasn't a tier 1 player, but he has/had potential. I am not sure about his decision is he coming back to cs or is he playing valorant. Still after that Vitality stint, people said he will be great player for tier 2, but he isn't ready for tier 1 yet. This is just what happened and kyojin in tier 2 is a weapon, but I don't what would happen if he came back to tier 1 level. Kyojin is fairlyrated
2022-09-24 20:26
#110
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Kosovo LeeTsAuCE
juanflatroo/rigoN
2022-09-23 12:36
Snax
2022-09-23 13:24
2 replies
Snax is underrated right know. Snax is still capable of playing in tier 1, which he showed in Ence trial. Snax could be a star player for some tier 2 team or anchor type rifle for tier 1 teams. Sadly there aren't much places for him to go, but definitely a shout for struggling teams. People underestimated his skills when he was a stand-in in Ence, but after that conversations about him didn't last long.
2022-09-24 14:25
1 reply
true asf
2022-09-24 16:02
f0rest
2022-09-23 13:26
1 reply
post #55
2022-09-23 19:08
#117
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Denmark FaZeAidan
Shane "SH1RO" O'Reilly is an American CS:GO player playing for the American Cloud 9 organization. He works part time as a livestock herder in Fort Town, Texas. He wishes to one day start his own ranch with the earnings together with his wife and cousin, Susan.
2022-09-23 13:28
#118
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India DG_1998
Monesy-overrated frozen-underrated
2022-09-23 13:34
2 replies
KEKW
2022-09-23 13:51
Actually true
2022-09-24 13:52
jimpphat
2022-09-23 13:40
1 reply
jimpphat is sadly a bit overrated, at least in a Finnish scene. Surely he is the future of Finnish cs, but right know he is an average player, which don't get me wrong is a massive accolade for a 16 year-old. In future he will be a weapon and he has potential to be next twistzz
2022-09-23 19:08
Stewie2k floppy
2022-09-23 13:51
3 replies
I covered floppy somewhere in this thread you should find him with ctrl+f. Stewie2k in the other hand is hard to review, because he isn't active know, but his recent form was definitely overrated and maybe he is all-time overrated as well. Stewie was a joker card in every form imaginable. Stewie was still maybe overrated because in some matches he just disappeared, still he was 2 time tournament MVP and he is the most achieved NA player, so everybody gotta respect his name. No top 20 player mark ever in his career and still people hyping him so much, is weird to me. You can't take is teams' accolades away and he was a huge part in those teams, but in the end he is bit overrated individual.
2022-09-24 14:15
2 replies
With stewie is the same issue like with Nafany, sh1ro etc. Both good but overrated as ....
2022-09-24 19:12
1 reply
I wouldn't say shiro is overrated in any sense. Insane awper with style that fits perfectly their roster. Nafany take I understand, but in my books both fairlyrated. Their numbers are sky high and actually making impact to game.
2022-09-24 19:13
arT
2022-09-23 13:53
2 replies
Underrated, arT does really well in his role, which is not the easiest one. Art makes space for his teammates and doesn't get respected enough. Saffee and Kscerato wouldn't be able to do their thing in as high level as they are doing now. If you look back at art's old stats you would think he fell off, which isn't the case. Furia wasn't as competent and art was known to be tier 2-3 weapon, but he was also playing more star roles back then. I don't know why many furia fans think he should be switched.
2022-09-24 14:20
1 reply
#330
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Brazil ImReverx
+1 some furia fans are really dumb
2022-09-24 18:05
#131
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Norway Snaids
Amanek
2022-09-23 14:05
3 replies
Underrated, great support who can do what ever his team needs not amazing at anything but not trash either. Still his problem is that in the highest level his value for the team decreases. Amanek raises "floor" of the team, but doesn't raise the "ceiling" at all. Good player for around top 20 teams, but will struggle against top top teams
2022-09-23 18:49
2 replies
Not sure you missed it but #119 buddy <3
2022-09-23 18:50
#273
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Netherlands arTvamp
+1 fair
2022-09-23 22:59
xantares
2022-09-23 14:07
4 replies
xantares is overrated. Xantares reminds me a lot of Scream in a way they both have insane mechanics, but they disappoint frequently. Xantares is putting up crazy numbers, but still we have seen that he is "only" a average player when playing against the best of the best.
2022-09-23 18:43
3 replies
0/8
2022-09-23 19:11
1 reply
Flair checks out, but my record at my analysis is awful so listening to me isn't the best option so maybe you right my boy
2022-09-23 19:13
#274
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Netherlands arTvamp
He reminds me of scream as well
2022-09-23 22:59
yekindar
2022-09-23 16:40
1 reply
I have spoken about yekindar above at #18 go check it out
2022-09-23 18:43
valde
2022-09-23 17:26
1 reply
I don't think rating Ence valde is reasonable yet, but before the ence signing he was underrated. Valde can do anything your team needs and always does his job. Valde is the meaning of consistent, and I only thing I can say first matches with ence didn't look good, but what can you expect when you get placed to a very different concept he is used to. Hope he does well in Ence
2022-09-23 18:39
#140
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Bangladesh ImpacT_
m0NESY
2022-09-23 17:27
3 replies
Monesy is definitely the hardest one to rate, but whole 2022 he has been overrated, but his level at EPL was promising. Monesy is hands down the best talent we have ever seen and his future ceiling is sky high. Right now however people speak like he is top 5 awper in the world, sure his EPL level is right there, but in a bigger picture he is somewhere in top 10 awpers. In a year or two he will be top 5 awper if everything goes well
2022-09-23 18:34
2 replies
#180
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Bangladesh ImpacT_
yeah i agree, well said
2022-09-23 19:04
i think most people judge him by his potential. He's very likely going to be the youngest top 20 player yet (tied with brollan in '19). But tbf sometimes people talk about him like he's a top5 player in the world which he is clearly not.
2022-09-23 21:48
God rain
2022-09-23 17:41
4 replies
Rain is criminally underrated. He is over shadowed by 3 top 10 players this year and he can actually sneak to top 20 list this year, which can surprise a lot of people. Rain is the anchor of the team and every team wants a player like him. Rain has shown us that he is capable of carrying the whole Faze team in some hard matches, but in normal scenario he just need to do his job at anchoring sites.
2022-09-23 19:05
3 replies
Almost every take of yours in this thread is a decent one. As an old rain fan (since 2015) i can agree with this opinion. Shame almost no one on this site remember what a god he was since 2017 to summer 2018. He has literally one of the highest peaks in the history of this game.
2022-09-23 19:22
1 reply
I think I took a bit too big piece of cake when I made this thread and there is so much names going on so it is hard to make good and sensible answers. I appreciate your comment and also 100% agree on Rain's peak.
2022-09-23 19:40
#275
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Netherlands arTvamp
Defiantly right
2022-09-23 23:01
#143
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United States 1Tuurtle
GOAT pwnalone. Swisher jitter idk Chop and Wiz?
2022-09-23 17:42
1 reply
sorry these tier 3 NA menaces isn't my strongest area. I am sorry that I can't answer you but something common with every tier 3 player is that their are most of the time overrated
2022-09-23 20:35
SunPayus
2022-09-23 17:43
1 reply
fairlyrated, he was underrated before the last events in movistar, but right now he is getting a lot of praise and credit which he deserves. Great modern awper, but is he the best when it comes to winning a whole event, I am not sure.
2022-09-23 19:02
Stanislaw Naf Olof
2022-09-23 17:45
1 reply
All-time olof is fairlyrated, but his last version we saw was definitely overrated. It is really common that people think all time legends are still good players for today's game. Sadly that ain't the case and olof was disappointing. Olof was the reason for Faze's struggles, but all-time olofmeister is fairly rated we just was something else. Naf is underrated he is really good rifle with a lot of variety in his game. Right now showing his skills in carry role and doing an insane job. People still remembers the 2019 Entry frag NAF, who was used like a decoy :D. He has always been underrated. Stanislaw is underrated as well, I don't know why, but he just disappeared after the competent eg roster. Surely a good igl and some team could use him when right peaces can be found around him, but it is not looking great for him in tier 3 team :(
2022-09-23 19:00
#147
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Biske
2022-09-23 17:51
1 reply
go check #155
2022-09-23 18:51
adam9130
2022-09-23 17:55
1 reply
A good tier 2-3 igl, but nothing more, he is between slightly overrated and fairlyrated for me. I see your flair and if you saw me right now, you would probably hit me, but let me explain my opinion. Adam is an average player individually and decent in a tactical point of view. ITB have been around top 60 for a long time even with multiple roster changes, which shows that adam has not made any progress as an igl recently. That is worrying if your team is tier 2-3, but progress isn't being made
2022-09-24 19:09
#150
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Australia boblao
HexT
2022-09-23 18:11
SIXER
2022-09-23 18:35
JamYoung
2022-09-23 18:45
1 reply
Bit underrated, nobody is speaking about this Chinese scream, but my god he has good aim, still we have seen that kind of players tend to drop in value when playing against better teams.
2022-09-23 18:51
Krimz Also I haven't seen any1 ask about hooking yet idk why Jks Chrisj (ik he doesn't play anymore :( )
2022-09-23 19:01
3 replies
Autocorrecttttt. I meant hooxi! Also brollan I'm curious about if you can XD
2022-09-23 19:02
2 replies
I covered Hooxi at post #51 I don't know what to say about Chrisj, but back then underrated. Jks is right now underrated. People say he is a bot and spunj just sucks his ass without any reason, which is stupid imo. Jks is a great player and fits in to many systems and also can make huge plays out of nowhere. He is something g2 needed and will need if they want to play with Niko, hunter, monsy core Krimz is fairlyrated at this point of his career. People know what Krimz brings to the table, but there is nothing special. Also playing without sustainability in his team is hard, which makes it harder to rate. Last but not least it is not coincidence he is still in fnatic rosters so surely he brings something we can't see to their rosters
2022-09-23 19:26
1 reply
Im sad we never got to see krimz on a strong international team. I think a lot of his talent was wasted on JW and co. Great thread and very strong and insightful points all-round :) thanks!!
2022-09-24 20:58
Im
2022-09-23 18:52
1 reply
Instead growing he went a bit downhill
2022-09-23 19:22
#171
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Portugal OwnedBro
Nealan
2022-09-23 18:56
2 replies
Too new player for good analyze, specially when you speak about an igl. Sorry if I disappointed.
2022-09-23 20:18
1 reply
#250
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Portugal OwnedBro
Np mens
2022-09-23 20:54
Joe Biden
2022-09-23 19:01
1 reply
Cycling skills maybe bit underrated. I don't know why people giggles about one tiny fall.
2022-09-23 19:16
#174
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North America minte
hades
2022-09-23 19:01
1 reply
fairlyrated, Hades somehow got worse in time and even now in tier 3 team he looks scared if I am totally honest. Hade's was the way and truth for Ence at first, but I just think he lost his confidence which made him the guy we saw. Right now everyone knows he could be tier 1 awp, but something needs to change. I fear that he will be a second Draken type awp, who can't be a real tier 1 awp.
2022-09-24 14:06
fame and n0rb3r7
2022-09-23 19:02
NiKo and huNter
2022-09-23 19:04
1 reply
I have covered both above Hunter at #13 and Niko at #63
2022-09-23 19:17
Syrson
2022-09-23 19:06
3 replies
fairlyrated, people know that he is good awp, but he ain't a carry in LAN like he is in Online. Syrson's best level is maybe bit underrated I would say, but his normal form is fairlyrated. Good player with unpredictable style which I like
2022-09-23 20:00
2 replies
Man you really know what you are talking about. You have my respect.
2022-09-23 21:37
1 reply
Thanks appreciate it!
2022-09-24 14:03
Brehze, floppy, Osee, cxzi
2022-09-23 19:08
1 reply
Brehze is underrated. I don't know am I tweaking, but I think in a real team (yes eg is not a real team) he could be a good rifle. Made once to top 20 players, so I don't know why he wouldn't be able to do it again. Floppy is overrated by NA fans, but maybe bit underrated by us in EU. He isn't the guy and upcoming superstar, but he ain't god awful either. Will be a good role player for many teams in time. OSee is promising maybe bit overrated. He ain't that amazing like NA fans seem to think... but he is good that is for sure. He is capable of amazing plays like he showed last round in the Furia game. Still he isn't a complete awper yet, but in time he can reach it. cxzi no fucking idea, sorry I don't ever hear conversations about him so maybe fairlyrated
2022-09-23 20:30
BOT WOXIC OVERRATED
2022-09-23 19:09
2 replies
+1, but take bot away and mention that in a better system he could be a great awper
2022-09-23 19:18
1 reply
1620 Dpi with 1.5 sens he is just missing every f*cking shots he think; oh im playing with high sens im better than all they are normal i must be special. BOT
2022-09-23 19:23
Degster maden b1t torzsi Patsi
2022-09-23 19:13
3 replies
Everyone of these guys goes to fairlyrated category except maden and degster. Degster underrated, has shown us that he is a top top awper with a lot of potential. Degster will make to top 20 players lists if this is his true constant level. Degster is still underrated, because I have't seen him pop up in top awpers lists until last month. Maden is bland player and a b tech yekindar. Maden is still a huge factor for Ence's success and most likely be a long term player there. Maden made a instant upgrade for Ence's performances when he was added. Bland player, but very very important that is why I say underrated. b1t, amazing young rifle with many valuable abilities. B1t can make space for his team, but also close rounds if needed. His stats lately are disappointing and he will 100% surely get back to his spring form soon, torzsi and patsi can be said in a same piece. They are good upcoming players in a average teams. Torzsi is looking better in my eyes than patsi, but that doesn't mean anything when they are still young. Fairlyrated.
2022-09-23 20:04
2 replies
I think you misunderstood w0nderful for patsi, but the rest I mostly agree with, just I feel as of late that b1t is a bit overrated, he's lost a lot of confidence in his play and it feels like he's just not taking enough duels. Patsi though, I would say is really really underrated, probably top 3 entry rn
2022-09-23 20:02
1 reply
true true true I just lost my whole identity
2022-09-23 20:04
Xseven
2022-09-23 19:19
1 reply
Xseven is underrated just like aerial. The guy for any tier 3 team, but in tier 1-2 teams not a big factor. Still X7 was huge part of prime Ence and don't get much credit out of it, so I think he has always been underrated. In Finnish scene he is fairlyrated, which makes sense when people actually watch him play.
2022-09-23 20:16
cadian stavn teses sjuush jabbi refrezh
2022-09-23 19:20
Comedian . I liked and agreed with most you said , so i want to hear ur opinion on him as igl cuz i think he is underrated .
2022-09-23 19:21
1 reply
Agree, he is underrated as a igl, but there is problem with him as well, modern teams need a good awper if they want to be constant threat, sadly cadian is just an average one. I love his unpredictable and risk taking ct sides. Heroic with basic style would be around top 20 team, but with their unique style they are compete for top 5-10 spots.
2022-09-23 19:30
Spinx
2022-09-23 19:26
2 replies
Fairlyrated, Spinx is a rifle player who is a clear upgrade for almost any team. Still he is being spoken and his name pops out in "top rifles" conversations, just like he should. I love him as a person and as a player
2022-09-23 19:35
1 reply
Good take
2022-09-24 13:36
#206
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Asia 333awp
twistzzz
2022-09-23 19:27
2 replies
check post #93
2022-09-23 19:32
1 reply
#209
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Asia 333awp
ty i agree with u
2022-09-23 19:33
Guys there are now more than 200 messages in this thread, so if you put "new" names, please check before you write, has somebody written that name above and have I already answered. Thanks, love you!
2022-09-23 19:38
3 replies
Just do: ctrl+F, and write the name, and you will see the occurrence in the thread ;)
2022-09-23 19:41
2 replies
Still you wrote down nbk when I ALREADY spoke about him, arggghh... xdd. Just kidding
2022-09-23 19:42
1 reply
Did this one after the first check
2022-09-23 19:47
hadji jackz NBK-
2022-09-23 19:40
1 reply
Hadji is an interesting one, I would say overrated. Hadji have played only tier 2-3 games and in those games put up good or ok stats, so nothing special. Still I like his style and things he do, sadly won't be a force in any top 20 team. Jackz is underrated. Jackz played the WORST roles ever in a losing team so his stats look god awful. His departure with g2 was a good move for both sides. Jackz will be good player for Falcons and tier 2-3 scene overall
2022-09-23 20:11
#216
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Canada KoldfuR1a
xccurate XigN erkaSt
2022-09-23 19:45
3 replies
Sorry, I don't know enough about these guys
2022-09-23 20:12
2 replies
#233
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Canada KoldfuR1a
bruh
2022-09-23 20:13
1 reply
Man I don't have the time needed to analyze player like XigN. Plays in tier 3 so not that much to say, promising player for sure, but something common with every young tier 3 player is overrating so skills. I don't say it is 100% the case here.
2022-09-23 20:21
KennyS, Krimbo and me
2022-09-23 19:57
1 reply
Kenny is covered already you can find my opinions by ctrl+f and write the player's name :) Krimbo is a bit overrated right now. He is a talented guy, but not totally ready for tier 1 cs, still people speak he is frozen type guy which isn't the case at least for now. Showing some erotic mechanics sometimes, but there are lots of work to do, before he is truly ready for playing against the best of the best.
2022-09-24 18:55
#223
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Croatia Sroljo662
maden
2022-09-23 20:00
3 replies
please I have covered him up already in post #221
2022-09-23 20:05
2 replies
#230
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Croatia Sroljo662
apologies, was lazy so didnt look through the comments
2022-09-23 20:06
1 reply
next time use ctrl+f, but not a big deal. Good to have you here
2022-09-23 20:13
dupreeh
2022-09-23 20:02
1 reply
Dupreeh is a bit overrated. This might sound stupid at first, but let me explain. Dupreeh is hands down legend of cs, but right now he ain't the same dupreeh we used to see in 2016 or so. All-time dupreeh is fairlyrated, but right now there are a lot of rifles who can do the same job as he. People overestimate his value bit too much right now.
2022-09-24 18:08
Flusha
2022-09-23 20:04
5 replies
Right now overrated, but all-time underrated. Do you want to hear my thoughts on both versions or just one of them?
2022-09-23 20:33
4 replies
yes
2022-09-23 20:46
3 replies
2013-2016 are Flusha's prime years, those years of him are underrated in my opinion. He was putting up an amazing numbers game to game even by not playing the best spots in every match. Flusha was just something else at his role and he was SUPER consistent. You always knew what you get from Flusha and he didn't disappoint. People also forget his 3 majors and 1 major MVP, it just seemed he was always at his best when it mattered the most. Right now he is overrated. Flusha is playing at tier 3 team and tier 3 matches, and what ever your role is, you are not allowed to play with that bad stats as he is doing right now. Some people say he has still use in top 30 teams, which is nonsense if he plays in this form. I love him and he is doing valuable work with raising up new Swedish talent, but he should do better as a individual as well.
2022-09-24 18:50
2 replies
Flusha vs faze T side map 5(train) katowice finals. never forget
2022-09-24 20:26
1 reply
goat performance.
2022-09-27 15:58
junior
2022-09-23 20:14
1 reply
underrated. people think he is the best player in the world but honestly he's way better than that
2022-09-23 21:31
NAF
2022-09-23 20:18
3 replies
covered already in post #169, next time use ctrl+f and check have I wrote about x player
2022-09-23 20:32
2 replies
my bad
2022-09-23 20:42
1 reply
no problem, love to have you here
2022-09-24 18:03
sergej
2022-09-23 20:21
1 reply
I love sergej first of all and I might be biased. Sergej is criminally underrated. He was 13th best player in the world as a rifle in a star lacking team. Aleksib also should get a credit for that, but I don't see why sergej wouldn't be able to recreate that accolade if he gets a good system and players around him. Sergej's problem is his motivation which maybe ruined his whole carreer we'll see. I just hope he finds his motivation and finds home from a Finnish or a global team.
2022-09-24 15:12
my flair
2022-09-23 20:29
1 reply
The most underrated thing if hiko was still in cs. Right now only a bit underrated
2022-09-23 20:30
mir
2022-09-23 20:40
1 reply
fairly rated
2022-09-23 21:29
#251
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Russia Vedoth
Kair0N- isk latt1k
2022-09-23 21:01
1 reply
never heard of any of these, fairly rated
2022-09-23 21:29
kennyS.
2022-09-23 21:01
4 replies
overrated
2022-09-23 21:29
His absolute peak is fairlyrated, but his latest form was overrated. People still think he is tier 1 awp which ain't sadly the case. Still 2018-2019 kenny is underrated. His prime years before 2018 are fairlyrated like I said. That 2018-2019 Kenny is a weird case. He put up great numbers in a mid g2 team and people forget about those days. Nowadays however people think he could came back, but sadly the game is more competent than ever and he would be an ok or a pretty good tier 2-3 awp.
2022-09-24 15:00
2 replies
Check out hes stream.
2022-09-25 22:47
1 reply
Playing well in stream doesn't mean anything... If you think stream matches and actual pro matches are same thing, you have some big problems. Take a player like juhob or get right. They can destroy in +4000 elo games on their streams, but they have no use in pro scene.
2022-09-26 08:07
Maki
2022-09-23 21:38
#262
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Russia Soawii
da goat perfecto
2022-09-23 21:43
2 replies
Underrated. He would be a secondary star rifle in a different team, but in NaVi he is a role rifle. Also I want to mention that with Perfecto as a more star role you team wouldn't be a top 5 team, but around top 10 he could be team's star if needed. Perfecto is maybe top 3 player in his role with rain and jks, yes I rank jks that high.
2022-09-24 15:05
1 reply
magisk robbed D:
2022-09-24 20:42
xfl0ud
2022-09-23 21:49
#265
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Romania justlyw
device
2022-09-23 21:55
1 reply
Fairlyrated all-time, but right know I would say underrated. We haven't seen him play for ages, but he is that type of guy who will make instant change and upgrade to his team. People say he was a trash bag in NIP which is false. People also speak shit about him and mock him Mickey Mouse because he isn't playing. I think mental health is the most important thing if you want to compete, so I just hope he comes back, but when he is 100% ready
2022-09-24 14:39
s1mple
2022-09-24 13:40
1 reply
Fairlyrated, The best player and the greatest player ever. Changed the way we see cs and has also won A LOT as a individual and also with his teams. People know how godly he is with "big green" and always makes people think "how is that possible"
2022-09-24 14:42
bismillah paz
2022-09-24 13:46
interz ax1le mightymax brollan
2022-09-24 13:57
1 reply
interz is underrated. He is old type of support player, who makes dirty, not visible work for your team. Interz is playing bad roles in every map and doing well in those circumstances. Interz weaknesses can be found in t-sides and when you need to win a 1vs1 gun fight. He ain't the best mechanically, but average. I like interz and he is like 2.0 version of xyp9x. ax1le is fairlyrated, he is in top rifles conversations and he gets a lot of credit out of c9's results. Ax1le fits in every system and he looks like player who can do anything if needed. mightymax, is underrated, just like many other low stat igls. Max is doing great job in Endpoint. Without max they wouldn't be near that top 30 team ranking, with their current players. Sadly max can't be a answer for tier 1 teams, because he just lacks individual skill, which is in most cases required if you want to compete. Great tier 2 igl. Brollan is overrated I would say. He is a great rifle at his best, but nowadays there are a lot of similar young rifles who can do just as good or even better job than he does, spinx, frozen and stavn for example. Still people are compering brollan to those kind of guys which isn't realistic right now. Brollan is a good rifle like I said, but he lacks consistency, but I hope we can see that top 20 players brollan under Aleksib's leading. We will see
2022-09-24 18:38
Spinx
2022-09-24 14:02
1 reply
covered already you can find my opinions by ctrl+f and write the player's name :)
2022-09-24 18:03
karrigan rain Twistzz ropz broky olofmeister ZywOo jks
2022-09-24 14:22
1 reply
Jks, karrigan, rain, broky, olof, twistzz are covered already. You can use ctrl+f command if you want to see my opinions about them. Ropz, this will surprise some people, but I would say underrated. Mouz Ropz was fairlyrated but now in Faze he is underrated in my opinion. In faze he is putting up great numbers, doing his own role and according to twistzz he does a lot in background. Ropz made Faze a top 1-2 team and still getting criticized about "baiting" and "stathunting", 100% bullshit. Zyw0o is fairlyrated, but French scene definitely overrates him. Zyw0o is the 2nd best player right now and has been that for a long. Cs community as a whole knows that and rates him like that, but some people in French scene truly thinks he is better than simple which ain't the case.
2022-09-24 14:51
#305
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Poland Roxin
dycha
2022-09-24 14:50
1 reply
Little underrated, he is mechanically a beast, but sometimes inconsistent. He is at his best a world class rifle, but sometimes everything seems to go wrong with the things he is doing. He needs to take a big role in new Ence.
2022-09-24 15:59
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2022-09-24 15:14
nafany
2022-09-24 16:13
1 reply
Nafany is really really underrated. This is really common thing with igls because us fans can't see their value until they leave. Nafany is modern master of slow tempo cs, but he has still work to do if c9 want to win titles. Nafany always seem to know what their opponents are doing and c9 aren't getting surprised by random stacks or so, this is really important nowadays when stacking sites is more popular. I still want to see him run up couple of faster rounds in their matches so they are not so predictable, but yeah top 5 igl for sure, top 3 potential as well
2022-09-24 18:21
DEKO
2022-09-24 16:56
2 replies
Sorry man, I don't have much to say, because I have seen only 2 matches from him. In those games he was good, but not insane. Stats say he is actually way better player than it seemed when I watched his match. I won't rate him, because my knowledge is bit too tiny :/
2022-09-24 19:47
1 reply
he is russian young toxic talent. He can become tier1 player if he improves mentality and joins eu team
2022-09-24 19:56
#318
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
Would love to hear your opinions on Blamef and Rez. Really liked your points
2022-09-24 17:00
3 replies
both covered already you can find my opinions by ctrl+f and write the player's name :)
2022-09-24 17:55
2 replies
#331
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Portugal W!LDF1RE
After writting this I actually found their responses, but I couldn't find my own to edit. Very large thread
2022-09-24 18:07
1 reply
Yeah that is true, I don't know how this popped so much, but I am glad people have liked it. No problem mate, love you
2022-09-24 18:10
Best thread ive seen on hltv thus far
2022-09-24 17:05
2 replies
Thank you very much, means a lot for me to hear, I've spent so much time in this thread
2022-09-24 17:59
1 reply
No, thank YOU :)
2022-09-24 20:41
xantares
2022-09-24 17:07
1 reply
covered already you can find my opinions by ctrl+f and write the player's name :)
2022-09-24 17:55
Hadji
2022-09-24 17:07
1 reply
covered already you can find my opinions by ctrl+f and write the player's name :)
2022-09-24 17:57
Snappi
2022-09-24 17:58
1 reply
Snappi is right now fairlyrated, but he was underrated for a long time. Snappi has been very unlucky in his past projects with players leaving and coming here and there. Everything looked so great in Ence until Spinx's leaving. Hope Valde and Sunpayus fits well to the team and they can take a step up as a team and not only as a individuals. Back to Snappi, he is great igl, with very different style. Snappi is also capable of taking entries which is important for an igl. Snappi+Saw combo is underrated igl+coach combo, but snappi is now getting a lot of praise which he totally deserves. Top 5 igl at least, maybe even top 3
2022-09-24 18:14
kyojin nafany osee
2022-09-24 18:39
1 reply
all covered already you can find my opinions by ctrl+f and write the player's name :)
2022-09-24 19:10
tarik ropz scream amanek
2022-09-24 18:46
2 replies
all others covered already except tarik, you can find my opinions for other players by ctrl+f and write the player's name :) Tarik is overrated. He was a beast and major MVP, but his prime didn't last long. Tarik's prime was only 2-3 years long and after that he was a above average rifle, but nothing really special. People still like to say he is one of the best rifles ever, but it just not true. If we had more longevity then things would be different, but only 2 to 3 good years isn't enough, if you have as great status as he does.
2022-09-24 19:38
Sorry scream wasn't covered in this thread, so here it is. Scream is betweem fairlyrated and a bit overrated. He as well had short prime just like Tarik, but was great in it. Scream fell off, but he wasn't that bad of a player, people do like to say. Scream surely wasn't the right guy for tier 1 teams, but in tier 2 he was a beast. People say he was scum bag in tier 2, but he was actually a star (which also should be the case, if you were a top 20 player couple of years before), but people still thing he was trash. So is his prime overrated yes, but his whole career in my eyes is a fairlyrated or a tiny bit underrated.
2022-09-24 19:45
Coldzera
2022-09-24 19:51
1 reply
All-time coldzera is fairlyrated or a bit underrated, Faze era cold a bit underrated and current coldzera overrated. We have seen multiple versions of cold over time, but right now it seems his career is going to end. He is an unbelievable player, but now it seems his level isn't enough. He isn't doing coldzera things and his consistency has fallen off, over couple of years. Faze cold is really underrated. Faze wasn't top top team when cold was there, but cold was the only reason they didn't lose every single game. At the time they had olof, kjaerbye and young broky in team and bloody hell it was awful. When he played with niko, Faze looked shaky, but not really really bad either. With some fixes at the time that core with niko, cold and rain could have achieved something. People just forgot about those times which is understandable. His right now form is overrated. When speaking about 00nation, conversations always are around cold, which is stupid because he isn't that player he used to be. Still people think he can come back to his previous form which isn't realistic at all. Prime cold is in my books is between bit underrated and fairlyrated like I mentioned. He was insane, GOAT debate player, but his prime didn't last so long, which is sad. Newer fans don't appreciate him and undervalues him, which makes his all-time version underrated.
2022-09-24 20:09
I have 100% surely missed out some players you guys have put. I have also skipped some "random" names and posts with about 5 names on purpose, because I don't have the knowledge or enough time for one post, hopefully you guys understand. However if you still have some names which HAVE NOT BEEN SAID please put it down. If you are not sure is some player's name already put or even handled (that sounded weird) use ctrl+f and type the player's name, thank you guys
2022-09-24 19:53
oskar
2022-09-24 19:56
2 replies
Oskar is between underrated and fairlyrated for me. Oskar was world class awp and he has got 3 "top 20 players" listings in his career, still he isn't being spoken at all. Right now at +30 years old he is still putting good numbers in tier 3, which doesn't mean that much, but he is still capable of playing in tier 2 team at least. I would say his current version is fairlyrated. Prime oskar was a big part of MOUZ's success, but people forget about it. Oskar was consistent player and he played against top 5 teams as well. Also I personally value winning a lot and MOUZ at the time won couple of titles which means a lot in my books. Like I said people forget about him, but they know his level as a awper. He is somewhere around top 20-25 awpers all-time and most people are agreeing with me.
2022-09-24 20:18
1 reply
I mostly agree with what you said, except for the "He is somewhere around top 20-25 awpers all-time" part. In my opinion oskar is actually between 15-20 but everything else is described perfectly. Continue with your good job, best thread i have seen in a while.
2022-09-24 20:30
pasha
2022-09-24 20:22
ropz, IMO so overrated
2022-09-24 20:32
JDC tabseN Zyphon Grim
2022-09-24 20:50
im goat end of story
2022-09-24 20:53
magisk elige electronic stavn apex
2022-09-24 21:06
dexter d:)
2022-09-26 09:54
#378
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Croatia Mikylm
Rpk
2022-09-27 16:01
#379
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Korea Axiotimos
boombl4 smooya
2022-09-27 16:44
My boy maxster :D
2022-09-27 18:00
Art Yuuurih Hen1 Kng Felps
2022-09-27 18:06
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