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stavn | 
Estonia BIGGEST_STAVN_FAN 
They must be realizing how bad they are without sunpayus right???????
2022-09-23 13:08
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sunpayus also thinking hes bad without mvrs
2022-09-23 13:09
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+1
2022-09-23 13:21
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Austria fire110
sunpayus also bad without movistar xD
2022-09-23 13:09
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Pakistan LoOuU2
well of course they know that but it isnt their fault he left. His contract was ending and he decided to not renew it and leave for an Intl team Martinez however , has been great individually considering this is his first Tier 1 tourni
2022-09-23 13:10
tbf, would Movistar have kept their form after the break with SunPayus? Doubt it. Martinez looks really good.
2022-09-23 13:10
Martinez is better than SunPaidByEnce
2022-09-23 13:10
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you tried
2022-09-23 16:24
its a solid top20 team
2022-09-23 13:11
its not because of martinez, its because of poor performance of deathZz, dav1g and mopoz unless in this inferno wasnt on a good level neither
2022-09-23 13:19
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good inferno ngl. Just some crucial individual mistakes, which is easy to fix. Sh1ro deleting Martinez 1v1 every time too
2022-09-23 13:21
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true, Martinez is not having his best match neither, but yesterday vs Furia and 2 days ago vs liquid he was the best and by far
2022-09-23 13:22
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Its not even Martinez bad plays. Sh1ro hitting crazy shots, top2 awper right now. Cannot blame him
2022-09-23 13:24
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its true, last ct rounds of c9 they were winnning every duel and by far. and what was that 4k of sh1ro it was so nasty dude
2022-09-23 13:26
Not just Sh1ro, they read movistar like an open book, using utility with triple grenades, molos at the exact places they were holding while having no info... C9 played a really smooth cs today. Btw, one of the problems they are faceing in T side is that Sunpayus used to call a lot, specially how to execute with utility and that's something martinez can't do, that's why he's getting good stats because mechanically he's really good, but the rest of the team is dragging down because they don't have that extra info Sunpayus was doing.
2022-09-23 16:33
#17
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Slovakia AdorrioN
Deathzz really dragging this team down. Mopoz is at least impactful player most of times and dav1g is support/anchor right?
2022-09-23 13:35
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Dav1g is an entry fragger/anchor. Mopoz is impactful, but in this epl he made lots of mistakes. And well, deathzz is a support but its the worst mrs player and prob by far
2022-09-23 16:20
#8
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
MorbiStar Rider not Morbin.
2022-09-23 13:20
no they are just bad , that has nothing to do with sunpayus , martinez is so good if not better
2022-09-23 13:21
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+1, martinez is doing good, MR always been 1 tournament team
2022-09-23 13:23
We can say the same thing for sunpayus.
2022-09-23 13:22
Movistar are still a very solid team, maybe not top 5 but at minimum top 20. I think MartinezSa needs a little more time but individually he looks good
2022-09-23 16:21
Movistar is a fluke. Ence was a fluke Sunpayuys was a fluke. Martinez will be a fluke. Spanish cs dead
2022-09-23 16:27
They already knew that, but Sunpayus left because contract ended and he decided to go. Martinez is great replace skill-wise, problem is everything else that sunpayus was giving to the team, like info+calls, that's something someone else should do now, or change dav1g or deathzz for someone who can do second calls, but hard to find someone in spanish scene that has enough experience and can improve one of them in their positions.
2022-09-23 16:36
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