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Considering they get higher and higher for losing It is possible
2022-09-23 15:01
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2022-09-23 15:09
next week Astralis #2, Movistar #3
2022-09-23 15:14
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EG top1 again, finally
2022-09-23 15:25
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+1
2022-09-23 16:17
lol
2022-09-23 16:30
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Spain kE01
Their last 3 tournaments are: ESL Valencia (1st) IEM Cologne Play-In (1st -4th) another win IEM Cologne (3-4th) ranking does not count unofficial tournaments, thats why they are that high at ranking, i think they not deserve the 5th world place, i dont think they are t1 material rn, but lets see how they do with Martinez
2022-09-23 15:15
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Honestly, i think that even with sunpayus they can't sustain to be in top10. Cologne was just 1 tournament that they hardplayed
2022-09-23 15:18
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Spain kE01
being honest, without flair, i think they were top 10 with sunpayus, not only the skill base from the players, their playstyle, synergy, they were a good team, now they need to recover, and step up again
2022-09-23 15:21
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Brazil brwtv
Please, gather support among spaniard fans and convince them to -Dav1g +sausol. Martinez seems able to hold his ground pretty well, and consistent awpers are a super rare thing these days. They have the money because of sunpa sale, and he's probably not even that expensive (partisan, come on). This line up is honestly top10
2022-09-23 15:29
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Spain kE01
not the same roles, not the same playstyle, dav1g is young and fresh, and their synergy is higher with dav1g, its not about skill its about teamplay id say
2022-09-23 15:41
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Brazil brwtv
sausol is literally 1 year older than him lol I get that changing for example a support player for a lurker makes no sense, but mopoz is already an entry like him (according to liquipedia, I don't personally know movi's roles, sorry). And while I do agree that skill is definitely not the only thing to consider (there are several examples of teams that look good on paper but can't work as an unit), there's a limit to how much you're willing to trade in terms of how well a player is vs how much he clicks with the team. His impact is just too low, sadly. You just can't have a 0.9 rifler that's not the IGL and be competitive these days. Btw, yesterday a guy created a thread about a team mixing 9z and Movistar and I genuinely think that would be amazing. And both dgt and dav1d could fit his roles. But another guy from Spain said that both the org and the fans have a strong opinion about keeping the team with only spaniard players, so sausol is the best option (he was the one that suggested it as well).
2022-09-23 16:15
adamS fits better than sausol in dav1g roles (Not saying they should -dav1g but just in case adamS is the best option imo)
2022-09-23 17:18
losing Sunpayus didnt cost them some points?
2022-09-23 15:26
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20% If SunPayus did not leave Movistar could have been top 4 100%, not sure about top 3.
2022-09-23 17:19
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Russia bult0
SteelSeries Nova Cup Western Europe Fall 2022 - 4th I can't be convinced hltv shouldn't count this loss
2022-09-23 15:27
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Spain kE01
no big teams on it, so not affect on ranking points
2022-09-23 15:39
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United Kingdom novaseer
but ranking points are available for the top 300 teams or so, and the #300 team has played against a tier 1 team maybe once in the RMR qualifiers
2022-09-23 15:43
stop being retarded. Movistar is top20 and it was even with sunpayus
2022-09-23 16:26
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Spain kE01
rn yes, but when they played IEM Cologne, they were Top 10, other teams had a lot of problems and movistar were on their peak of level, so yes, they were a Top 10 team, rn of coure not, but if u cant see that on IEM they were Top 10 team, maybe ur blind
2022-09-23 17:32
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Australia NoLeS
top 4 shittest roster sales maybe
2022-09-23 15:15
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United Kingdom mystix_08
apparently they didn't even sell him for much aswell
2022-09-23 15:22
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150-200k in theory but the player wanted to leave
2022-09-23 17:20
Astralis #1 soon then
2022-09-23 15:15
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Spain VIKTORAL
riders and astralis era incoming both get stronger with each loss (if only lose they get unlimited points)
2022-09-23 15:17
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+1
2022-09-23 17:11
so stupid lol
2022-09-23 17:12
by the time the rio final comes out with faze vs navi, movi will probably be 1st
2022-09-23 17:13
movistar #1 astralis #2 by the end of the month
2022-09-23 17:19
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