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oSee Vertigo AWP
Sweden 1danne1 
Why doesn't Liquid decide to give oSee the AWP on Vertigo? They lost 2 times on that map now against FURIA & Eternal Fire. He has very little impact because of this. I wonder why? twitter.com/1danne1_CSGO/status/15736943.. Anyone knows their reason for playing like this? Because it obviously doesnt work, either for oSee or Liquid.
2022-09-24 17:26
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I saw osee awping multiple times idk what u mean
2022-09-24 17:27
11 replies
He literally got one AWP frag on their T side of Vertigo, 0 on the CT side because he didn't use it.
2022-09-24 17:31
10 replies
clearly he's not comfortable awping on this map then? better to give him rifle if he's gonna play shit with awp
2022-09-24 17:34
7 replies
why are they playing a map where their most inexperienced player is uncomfortable on?
2022-09-24 17:35
5 replies
#5
Maniac | 
Switzerland Xsara
because you can only have one perma ban
2022-09-24 17:36
they didn't choose it lmao
2022-09-24 17:36
hltv.org/stats/players/matches/13249/ose.. He is/was a pretty good vertigo awper so idk
2022-09-24 17:50
2 replies
might be is team handicapping him, not letting him play the way he wants
2022-09-24 21:32
1 reply
+1, how do you sign the best na awper,just to now set him up for agressive plays
2022-09-26 12:06
Instead of having guesses, my point is to get an interview where they explain their decisions. Would get much clearer for all of us.
2022-09-24 18:33
Mb open ur eyes and watch the game more carefully ? Osee is just bad
2022-09-24 17:53
1 reply
I watched the game mate. And my wonders why you give a main AWP player the rifle instead still lays on the table.
2022-09-24 18:34
#7
FASHR | 
France Ansi
my best guess is that YEKINDAR claimed some spots, and it doesnt work out (yet)
2022-09-24 17:36
3 replies
I guess that could be a part of the reason. However, there are still many spots/situations you could use oSee and the AWP.
2022-09-24 18:34
2 replies
#18
FASHR | 
France Ansi
yeah, sometimes there are no excuses. i thought Liquid as a whole was pretty disappointing today. YEKI was also making so many dumb peeks. possibly they underestimated EF, and tbh woxic had a massive huge COCK today. he literally fucked Liquid all by himself.
2022-09-24 18:42
1 reply
It was various reasons why they lost like they did today. Yes woxic played incredible but also they didn't use oSee at all. As you say, YEKINDAR was pretty quiet aswell.
2022-09-24 21:28
#8
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Estonia Kukkel
This team is so fresh, they need like a year to make things work. Give them time.
2022-09-24 17:39
1 reply
100% true that this team is fresh. Good last event but not so good this event. We will have to wait some time to see how their performance will be.
2022-09-24 18:38
#9
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Ukraine Kellso
hey danne, why are you become so irrelevant since that top 1 fantasy in 2021? I don't even see you in top 10
2022-09-24 17:47
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Hey Kellso. It is hard to get into the top 10 my friend but I wouldn't say im irrelevant. I talk/discuss CS:GO on a regular basis, mostly on twitter but also here at HLTV. I write alot of content regarding fantasy but also CS:GO in general. I have also won prizes this year and are currently #1 in ESL Pro League Season 16 @EGOAPP. Here are some links & examples: 1. twitter.com/1danne1_CSGO 2. egoapp.gg/post/iem-cologne-after-talk-wi..
2022-09-24 18:51
2 replies
#20
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Ukraine Kellso
What is EGOAPP?
2022-09-24 18:57
1 reply
It's a site for fantasy esports. You can make an account here and participate for free to win prizes: play.egoapp.gg/?utm_campaign=ProPlayerCa..
2022-09-24 19:16
They need to replace osee and put naf on awp. Also yekindar needs to learn how to use his brain, one of the most overrated players in the game right now
2022-09-24 18:34
7 replies
You really think he's overrated? I think he's a really good entry-fragger to enter sites for his team.
2022-09-24 19:19
6 replies
He has 1 bad day and everyone claims he’s bad lmao. He gets like 5+ entry kills every map
2022-09-24 19:21
5 replies
It's like that with alot of people. Talk shit about a player when he has a bad day. YEKINDAR has been good in VP/Outsiders etc and are showing promising results so far with Liquid. I wouldn't say he's overrated at all.
2022-09-24 19:24
2 replies
The real reason behind Liquids troubles in EPL is oSee who has had a negative rating across 4 series as the awper
2022-09-24 19:26
1 reply
It definitely is one of the reasons yeah
2022-09-24 19:33
5 entry kills is nothing. its not enough. yekindar needs to play better hes so overrated
2022-09-25 01:33
1 reply
Lol bro go back to the cave you came from because most entries get 10 entry kills max in life games
2022-09-25 01:35
ahyhhhhhhhh cause he sucks maybe ?
2022-09-24 18:39
1 reply
That's not an explanation why they don't give him an AWP to play with. Maybe he will be better with the big green, don't you think?
2022-09-24 21:25
#30
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Turkey Joper
Dude, this is because of Yekindar and the ramp games he plays. He's very aggressive and it's much easier to trade him with m4 when he dies. But this is a mistake. Yekindar should play more passively.
2022-09-24 21:34
6 replies
This could be a reason yes. However they might change this if it keep going like this.
2022-09-25 14:12
5 replies
#41
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Turkey Joper
If they do not change, they will lose today as well. In this case, Yekindar needs to show an extraordinary performance for them to win. But as I said, this will only be a one-match performance, it doesn't change the problem radically.
2022-09-25 14:47
4 replies
Will be interesting to see if they play vertigo today and how they setup oSee.
2022-09-25 15:20
3 replies
#44
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Turkey Joper
Definitely. But most likely Cloud9 will choose it. Because liquid has been beaten badly on that map for 2 times. We will most likely see that map as Liquid banned the nuke first.
2022-09-25 15:41
2 replies
Yeah, I think C9 will win quite easy today.
2022-09-25 16:11
1 reply
#46
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Turkey Joper
I hope it doesnt :/
2022-09-25 16:16
They put a lot of emphasis on yekindar ramp while osee is holding mid most of the time. Osee is struggling but he is not playing good spots in this map. He is basically holding angles while he should look for peek and be way more mobile. Yekindar is dying on ramp every rounds but I guess it is osee s fault too. Basically, their vertigo need massive changes.
2022-09-24 21:39
3 replies
Agreed. It really hurts my eyes to see especially their CT side on Vertigo. I can understand that this is something they are trying but they should really consider changes if it keep going like this. This is actually a reason why many players get benched/leaves a team, because they can't really play the way they want to. Hopefully oSee will tell them this and get more freedom on the map.
2022-09-25 14:14
2 replies
Osee is inconsistent, but the team becomes really yekindar centric, which is make sense. But since nitro is holding a site alone, he cannot play five seven and save for osee. Osee cannot hold mid without a rifle either. I'm not a fan of the setup. Naf would be a better b holder than nitro. Osee is less struggling on overpass, ancient, mirage, d2 but on vertigo, inferno he suffers from the lack of cohesion.
2022-09-25 14:25
1 reply
We'll se how they do from todays match and further on.
2022-09-25 15:21
1 reply
oSee got 24 AWP frags on vertigo last month, 13 aganst MR and 11 against Heroic. Im talking about the games vs FURIA & EF where he got 1 and 2 AWP frags. I also believe those frags came from their T half. You have to look closer at it. Not just link the 27 frags he got in total from the last month.
2022-09-25 14:26
why not
2022-09-25 01:39
1 reply
Why not what?
2022-09-25 14:15
youtu.be/FWFRTVnIC1Q?t=1250 At 20:50 Mauisnake also talks about Liquid not giving oSee the AWP on Vertigo. And below is a tweet where he also mentions it: twitter.com/Mauisnake/status/15740438581..
2022-09-26 11:42
-osee +device
2022-09-26 11:47
#50
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Eswatini  xyzoo
he is whiffing so much so he isnt allowed to play awp
2022-09-26 12:10
#51
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Germany exdxit_
Maybe it has to do with the style those two teams are playing They have a fast playstyle elsewhere c9 plays it slow Osee can awp on vertigo he showed it at extra Salt
2022-09-26 12:12
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