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navi would be ez top 1 world with this change, but then people would come back to saying s1mple > zywoo when it's just his team who's better so i hope they keep sdy
2022-09-28 20:49
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why would C9 give Ax1le to navi lol
2022-09-28 20:50
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#3
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Italy alastt27
because navi rich
2022-09-28 20:50
42 replies
c9 richer
2022-09-28 20:51
C9 rich too
2022-09-28 20:51
#11
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United States cybonics
hate to break it too you but I think C9 is richer
2022-09-28 20:51
26 replies
C9 is probably richest E-sports org
2022-09-28 20:52
16 replies
Possibly but I think evil geniuses is more rich then cloud9 but dumb people in management
2022-09-28 20:55
7 replies
#23
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United States r0l4nd_
Complexity has that Cowboys money don’t forget
2022-09-28 20:56
6 replies
too bad jerry jones decided to give all his money to dank prescott instead lolololol
2022-09-28 21:43
5 replies
#91
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United States r0l4nd_
Kekw so tru
2022-09-28 22:16
mahomes runs nfl
2022-09-29 18:37
3 replies
jalen hurts and tua currently run the nfl
2022-09-29 18:37
2 replies
sadly tua is injury prone
2022-09-29 18:39
1 reply
both of their teams are the only undefeated left, therefore they are currently running the nfl
2022-09-29 19:01
forbes says 1. tsm 2. 100t 3. liquid forbes.com/sites/brettknight/2022/05/06/..
2022-09-28 21:51
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#119
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Sweden axelious
Value isn't necessarily the same as assets though
2022-09-29 10:56
with how badly TSM have messed up the past two years I don't think that's valid anymore
2022-09-29 18:34
3 replies
tournament success often does not translate into direct value of organization it’s more of who got the most popular players and/or content creators and thus: fan base who can purchase merch and stuff; sign bigger advertising contracts; participate in other public/media events etc
2022-09-29 19:08
2 replies
I wasn't only talking their placement, but more so the shit their CEO has been doing, and how they've been treating their players. Like they got that insane crypto sponsorship, but it's just done nothing for the org, which I think will scare off other investors.
2022-09-29 22:04
1 reply
who knows, only time will tell, but what i said is still valid which is proven by the fact that TSM is the richest org out there
2022-09-30 09:58
#122
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
top 5 but not richest
2022-09-29 11:06
#143
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Eswatini  xyzoo
no its TSM
2022-09-29 19:43
#59
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Finland Miroyev
Not sure how accurate but quick google search told me c9 estimated 380 million and navi 8 million so not very close
2022-09-28 21:14
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#84
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Pakistan hawrU
8 million? their won prize money is higher than that.
2022-09-28 22:06
3 replies
The org doesnt get prize money.
2022-09-28 22:17
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#124
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Pakistan hawrU
doesnt get all the prize money u are right, I'm only pointing it out that NAVI is definitely worth much more than 8 million.
2022-09-29 13:00
#94
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Finland Miroyev
It means the value of the organisation. Though I think the overall organisation is probably quite a bit more than just 8 mil they aren't that big in other esports. The org pays a lot for salaries and everything so it's not like only profits can be counted either.
2022-09-28 22:35
yeah but c9 is not in cs to spend big bucks. They only picked this roster up because it was dead cheap. If NaVi would pay a high buyout and axile would be willing to transfer (which tbf i think he is not) i could see this happening.
2022-09-28 21:45
3 replies
who told you c9 dont want to spend big money??
2022-09-28 22:18
2 replies
Pretty much common knowledge, isn't it? They withdrew from the scene when the HenryG's colossus failed instead of rebuilding. And they only returned when there was an incredibly cheap lineup available. So the conclusion is that they do not like to spend money on cs???
2022-09-28 22:58
1 reply
It's not just that Gambit was extraordinarily cheap due to circumstances, but they were literally top 3 in the world, and that million C9 spent covered the players, coach, and their entire support structure. You literally cannot make a better offer than this.
2022-09-29 18:32
No way Navi > C9
2022-09-28 20:59
5 replies
#29
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India DG_1998
C9>Navi.
2022-09-28 21:02
4 replies
Understand the context dog, Talks are about Finance so you better keep your mouth shut if you don`t know anything
2022-09-28 21:01
2 replies
#38
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India DG_1998
C9 r more rich org than Navi stop with ur bark kiddo. Why TF c9 will sell they best rifler?
2022-09-28 21:03
1 reply
Excatly my point that what i am saying there is no way Navi is more rich than C9, read properly
2022-09-28 21:05
lol this guy edited his comment, he said vitality is more richer than C9 and navi combined , lmao what an idiot
2022-09-28 21:08
#30
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India DG_1998
C9 more rich than Navi.
2022-09-28 21:00
...you actually think a CIS org is richer than an american org? even the most basic t3 orgs in NA is richer and better paying than NAVI
2022-09-28 21:14
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#126
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Czech Republic Evis1337
if you think tier3 NA orgs pay more than navi then you need to get your head checked
2022-09-29 18:31
1 reply
lmao this
2022-09-29 19:10
T3 orgs in NA don’t pay people lol
2022-09-30 00:27
T3 Murican orgs serves only buns without inner cheese and chicken, Navi getting free Russian champagne and boiled potatoes 5 times a day
2022-09-30 08:30
+1 Both in their proper proportions, but it's like Vitality letting Zywoo out
2022-09-28 20:51
2 replies
That would be sh1ro, more like Na'Vi letting b1t get out.
2022-09-28 21:04
1 reply
''''''''''''''''in their proper proportions''''''''
2022-09-28 21:45
first of all different roles?
2022-09-28 22:12
#2
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Italy alastt27
they will be easily top if they get any above average player, YEKINDAR, Ax1Le, HObbit
2022-09-28 20:50
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#4
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Russia lerkozavrik
and nobody will sell them
2022-09-28 20:50
7 replies
Don't burst his bubble mate
2022-09-28 20:52
"they will be easily top if they get any above average player, YEKINDAR, Ax1Le, HObbit" "and nobody will sell them" Yekindar has been up for sale for months. Liquid still hasn't bought him contrary to popular belief. The issue is that NaVi won't give money to VP since they have ties to the oligarchs. -- Random American
2022-09-28 20:54
5 replies
vp was sold to an armenian businessman he is trying to sell yekindar /closed
2022-09-28 20:56
4 replies
You my friend are much wiser than I. My apologies. Good luck to your boys tomorrow vs FaZe, I hope you come out on top! -- Apologetic American
2022-09-28 20:58
3 replies
pls win because liquid have a better chance v c9 than they do faze assuming they beat mouz
2022-09-28 21:11
2 replies
It is a miracle that they beat fnatic
2022-09-29 11:09
1 reply
ball is in your court, hope to see you in the semis
2022-09-29 18:29
#33
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India DG_1998
Don't dream so much.
2022-09-28 21:02
If sdy keeps this up, we might see B1ad3 return to play at the major lmao
2022-09-28 20:51
he is russian also
2022-09-28 20:51
#9
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Italy alastt27
Patsi too, insane open killer
2022-09-28 20:51
Why would Ax1Le downgrade?
2022-09-28 20:51
Dont ruin ax1le plz.
2022-09-28 20:51
downgrade
2022-09-28 20:51
people were saying s1mple was better when one was playing with eletronic and b1t and the other with kyojin and misutaa....why not say zywoo better right now?
2022-09-28 20:52
3 replies
bc vita 2 top 20 players, navi 3
2022-09-28 21:02
cause s0mple fans hard coping
2022-09-28 21:06
Why ppl always mention elec and bit but never perfecto? Dude is insanely stable and very clutch player.
2022-09-29 19:16
navi only wants ukrainians
2022-09-28 20:53
Boombl4 would have at least 16 kills in this map
2022-09-28 20:53
1 reply
true, but in that case eletronic would be free to be a hard carry
2022-09-28 21:06
#20
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Ukraine d3adLY
s1mple is better than zywoo in every way
2022-09-28 20:54
40 replies
except cs
2022-09-28 21:02
29 replies
xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxxa
2022-09-28 21:03
#43
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CIS i_see_you
KEKW 12/10
2022-09-28 21:04
+1
2022-09-28 21:06
+1
2022-09-28 21:12
#62
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Ukraine d3adLY
zywoo is avg tier 1 player meanwhile, s1mple is best player ever
2022-09-28 21:42
21 replies
#68
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India DG_1998
If zywoo is avg than s0mple is not even avg he is garbage kekw. Zywoo is best player ever. He is better player over s1mple in every game as well.
2022-09-28 21:47
1 reply
#71
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Ukraine d3adLY
okay kid
2022-09-28 21:48
2 times top 1 what you talking about? and top 2 as well what you talking about avg tier 1 player? maybe not better than s1mple but avg tier 1 player? 10 iq expected from s1mple fans
2022-09-28 22:00
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#77
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Ukraine d3adLY
its fluke, he has avg aim/movement
2022-09-28 22:01
17 replies
0/8
2022-09-28 22:01
2 replies
#79
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Ukraine d3adLY
xd just try to be more objective
2022-09-28 22:02
1 reply
0/8 next
2022-09-28 22:02
spoken like someone who's never watched a zywoo demo. He crosshair placement movement everything is like watching art
2022-09-28 22:42
13 replies
#97
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Ukraine d3adLY
no lol, just avg like device, sh1ro
2022-09-28 22:47
12 replies
every pro cs player is average except s1mple
2022-09-28 22:59
11 replies
#101
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Ukraine d3adLY
u said it, not me idk why u think so
2022-09-28 23:05
10 replies
1. You are delusional and greasy shitty anime haircut malding fat porker s1mple will never be #1 hltv again 2. Go to pasha london school 3. When you finally turn 18 in a few years you'll realize saying "no u" "no u" doesn't win arguments; it makes everyone dislike talking to you
2022-09-28 23:07
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#103
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Ukraine d3adLY
1. XD, s1mple is #1 in 2022 2. my English isnt good, yes, but u understand me 3. lmao what? i didnt say #100, YOU SAID IT btw i am older than u(i am 22yo)
2022-09-28 23:12
8 replies
"no lol" = "no u" "u said it, not me" = "no u"
2022-09-28 23:21
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#105
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Ukraine d3adLY
its not default "no u" - not like "u r silver, no u" i didnt say only s1mple is good player
2022-09-28 23:22
6 replies
Ok so sh1ro device and zywoo ARE average though, so I'd like to see your top 5 players list for 2022
2022-09-28 23:33
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#108
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Ukraine d3adLY
1. s1mple 2. niko 3. ax1le 4/5. stavn/yekindar
2022-09-28 23:38
4 replies
stavn has 1.10 rating vs top 10 in 2022 with 50+ maps played
2022-09-28 23:58
3 replies
#115
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Ukraine d3adLY
yekindar has 1.09 rating vs top 10, so?
2022-09-29 00:09
2 replies
yekindar isnt top 5 either
2022-09-29 01:31
1 reply
#118
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Ukraine d3adLY
lmao, look at his impact
2022-09-29 10:23
+1
2022-09-28 22:41
+1 :D
2022-09-28 23:35
#144
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Eswatini  xyzoo
xaxaxaxaxaxaxa ended him
2022-09-29 19:43
#45
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India DG_1998
Keep dreaming Ukrainian baiter is nothing in front of zywoo.
2022-09-28 21:05
6 replies
#63
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Ukraine d3adLY
2022-09-28 21:42
1 reply
#69
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India DG_1998
2022-09-28 21:45
he's brainless s1mple fan on this site calling zywoo avg tier 1 player lmao
2022-09-28 22:01
3 replies
#81
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Ukraine d3adLY
i am objective
2022-09-28 22:05
2 replies
you're delusional than being objective
2022-09-28 22:06
1 reply
#85
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Ukraine d3adLY
no, i can watch demos/live games
2022-09-28 22:07
#54
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Finland aleksiii
In valulrante yes
2022-09-28 21:11
2 replies
#64
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Ukraine d3adLY
in every game
2022-09-28 21:42
1 reply
#70
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India DG_1998
2022-09-28 21:46
Why downgrade?
2022-09-28 20:57
1 reply
downgrade for ax1le
2022-09-28 20:58
Axile is not downgrading
2022-09-28 21:01
#35
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Brazil flytw4tp
Ax1le russian not gonna happen
2022-09-28 21:02
5 replies
#47
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Turkey Joper
Electronic and Perfecto are also russian :)
2022-09-28 21:06
4 replies
#51
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Brazil flytw4tp
what about it? if they add another russian navi gonna have to change their flag and they don't want it .
2022-09-28 21:09
3 replies
#52
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Turkey Joper
Is the flag changed when 3 players are from the same country? I didn't know there was such a thing. But I think this tournament is not as important as winning. But of course, if we consider today's conjuncture, it may not be correct.
2022-09-28 21:11
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#58
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Brazil flytw4tp
yep it is. i mean i think they didnt change with boob4 too cus they included Blad3, but before adding sdy Na`Vi already told they aint gonna add any russian player, unless he moves out to Ukraine or outside their country.
2022-09-28 21:13
1 reply
#61
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Turkey Joper
Hmm I get it. Thanks for the info mate
2022-09-28 21:15
#37
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Russia mshkoda
nah
2022-09-28 21:03
#41
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Russia Kirillqa89
flit
2022-09-28 21:04
#42
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Turkey Joper
It would be insane if this could happen, but nothing like that would happen.
2022-09-28 21:05
No more russians in Navi
2022-09-28 21:11
4 replies
its not you who decide this
2022-09-28 21:50
3 replies
#74
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Ukraine Kellso
Why do you think sdy in the team then when there is tons of better rusian players?
2022-09-28 21:58
1 reply
bc b1ad3 thought that sdy will be at least average, but its not happening. Just misspick
2022-09-28 22:06
Yes, management of Navi deciding and they don´t want more russian players
2022-09-28 22:14
ax1le is russian, no thanks
2022-09-28 22:09
why would ax1le downgrade to play with the toxiest player ever
2022-09-28 22:10
- sdy + alex jones
2022-09-28 22:13
i think so. But it hard to bring russians in Navi. It will be a good move
2022-09-28 22:49
#109
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Montenegro ymrr
YEKindar was the best option but they dont want to give any money to Russia ...
2022-09-28 23:41
no way in a million years would c9 give away their star rifler / 2nd best performer away. Even if he does go to navi i dont think he'll mesh well
2022-09-28 23:42
#112
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North Macedonia AxiOS
do you want Zywoo to navi too ?
2022-09-29 00:01
1 reply
native languages and shit
2022-09-29 00:02
headtrick is a good rifler + young and unexperience (can improve even more). Sadly s0mple is too tilted to be patient to have an unexperience 5th player like b1t was in early 2020. they missed a good chance
2022-09-29 00:03
3 Russians 2 Ukrainians in NaVi will never happen sadly. Ax1Le NaVi is a new Astralis level era of dominance but through sheer firepower instead of tactics
2022-09-29 01:34
I don’t think NaVi will be adding anymore Russians. If B1t and electronic weren’t so good, I imagine they would have been dropped with Boom too.
2022-09-29 10:57
1 reply
b1t is ukrainian, perfecto is the other russian also if the video of boombl4 doing cocaine didn't get released and boombl4 was fine moving out of russia with perfecto and electronic, then he would have stayed on the team but you're right that navi won't be adding any more russians in the near future
2022-09-29 18:40
It won't happen because NaVi don't want any more Russian players and even if they were willing to spread their legs C9 would never give them axile
2022-09-29 11:04
#128
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United States burzeus
-sdy +Edward
2022-09-29 18:32
why would ax1le leave c9 for navi
2022-09-29 18:39
2 replies
to be undisputed top 1 instead of vaguely top 3
2022-09-29 19:33
1 reply
no he has grinded up to becoming one of the best teams in the world from the depths of tier3 with sh1ro nafany and interz, he has no reason to leave
2022-09-29 19:42
Why would this Ukrainian org ever sign a Russian player these days ?
2022-09-29 19:11
1 reply
one more, one less, what difference
2022-09-29 19:32
1. Sexile won't leave cloud9 2. C9 probably richer 3. Sexile in awful roles of sdy is a crime
2022-09-29 19:49
2 replies
roles are just an excuse for bad players, he'll be fine
2022-09-30 00:23
1 reply
0/8
2022-09-30 08:19
-You from hltv forum would be better
2022-09-30 08:24
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