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What is an "era"
Twistzz | 
Canada FlagChecksOut 
What is an era is really subjective and I've seen people argue about it for a while. So I'd like to say what I think is the bare minimum. 2 Majors. Discuss?
2022-09-30 01:21
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you know when it’s a era. You feel it when you’re in the era. Like with astralis
2022-09-30 01:22
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True, I remember every time FaZe would face Astralis during their era I almost knew they were going to lose. That's really subjective though so that's why I said 2 majors.
2022-09-30 01:24
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Sean "eraa" Knutsson (born August 12, 2001) is a Swedish professional Counter-Strike: Global Offensive player.
2022-09-30 01:59
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actually 6/8
2022-09-30 02:40
not really. You dont need 2 majors because for example in 2021 navi were dominating everyteam easily and they had only 1 major
2022-09-30 02:40
2 replies
Not really. NAVI had no era
2022-09-30 12:07
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Navi had a era, then stop because war and personal issues
2022-10-01 05:13
#115
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Asia BrianMVP
Everyone gonna lose to Astralis in those year not just Faze
2022-09-30 20:36
1 reply
True but I was just saying the dominant feeling of Astralis almost made every upcoming game something I didn't want to watch.
2022-09-30 23:02
#2
ZywOo | 
China Zhusha
2 consecutive majors bare minimum and tier 1 tournament wins or at least deep runs in between those. and as #1 says, you know it if you are in one, you don't have to ask or discuss
2022-09-30 01:23
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Agreed, majors must be consecutive. I would say the team would also need to be winning most of the Tier 1 tournaments that they participate in between those two majors. How much is most? No strong opinion, maybe 75%, at minimum 50%
2022-09-30 02:13
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Id say minimum 75% because 50% means that there is multiple other teams that rival you, the majors just show that when it mattered most, the team performed
2022-09-30 03:20
#4
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It's a different definition for everybody. For me, it is a period of dominance that attributes to both "type of dominance" + "length of dominance" and a team to achieve both of those factors has era-defining dominance, which I only count three teams of ever achieving, being NiP, fnatic and Astralis, respectively. Other teams have come close but usually only by having one of the two factors, making their "era" contested by quite a lot of users: LG/SK, Na'Vi, Team Liquid, Virtus.Pro, FaZe Clan and Gambit, to name a few. EDIT: General corrections.
2022-09-30 01:32
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#7
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Brazil Yung_Leann
Talking about contesting an era, NiP dominating the scene when they were the only full time pro team in csgo, playing tourneys that had 500$ prizepool LMAO.
2022-09-30 01:33
23 replies
terrible argument its like the "pele played against plumbers!!" dogshit they were much better than everybody else for a long ass time, therefore era
2022-09-30 01:36
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#15
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Brazil Yung_Leann
They were much better than everybody else cus nobody gave a fuck about CSGO, after the first CSGO major was announced what happened with NiP's dominance?
2022-09-30 01:38
7 replies
still an era tho...
2022-09-30 01:57
1 reply
#33
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Brazil Yung_Leann
2022-09-30 01:58
They got second place, then second place, and then won a major, and then second place. They could have 4 majors
2022-09-30 02:02
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#37
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Brazil Yung_Leann
And i could be an Astronaut but i'm not.
2022-09-30 02:03
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#110
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Brazil RevvivaL
so is 3x major finals a 1x major winning bad results?
2022-09-30 16:05
1 reply
Not bad results but not an era either.
2022-09-30 20:34
his talking about"if it is an era" u r talking about"if that era matters" hello?
2022-09-30 02:21
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Europe jigglep33k
it was the fkn start of the game. maybe without nip the game would never became that big.
2022-09-30 01:37
3 replies
#17
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Brazil Yung_Leann
What are u even saying, the game became big after the announcement of the first major, cus orgs and players saw that there was alot of money to be made and started putting time and money into the scene.
2022-09-30 01:39
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#19
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Europe jigglep33k
way before the major
2022-09-30 01:41
Skins saved the game not NiP.
2022-09-30 02:36
#14
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Yes, I credit NiP with "inventing" the eras that we have in CS:GO today and I respect their accomplishments despite the competition being taken into account.
2022-09-30 01:37
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#20
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Brazil Yung_Leann
How can you put NiP alongside a team like Astralis? there was literally no competition, its like saying that USA has an ERA in NFL and NBA.
2022-09-30 01:42
7 replies
#24
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I literally just told you why. I'm not going to blame NiP for being the best at a time where CS:GO was still flourishing but they were the first to pioneer and dominate the game to the extent where they were feared and I respect that. You are allowed to disagree and I will respect your opinion but otherwise, I accredit NiP and Astralis separately alongside fnatic, obviously competition was different back then and I'm aware of that, doesn't mean that I'm going to discredit their achievements and accolades because they deserved them at the time. EDIT: Typographical error.
2022-09-30 01:48
6 replies
#30
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Brazil Yung_Leann
Nah, only teams to win consecutive majors, were Astralis/Fnatic/SK-LG and between these teams Astralis is like tier S and the other are below them. what happened before Majors in csgo started shouldn't even be taken into consideration while talking about eras.
2022-09-30 01:55
5 replies
#70
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I respect your opinion but I disagree that Majors are the only factor that matter.
2022-09-30 10:58
4 replies
#92
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France Alyex
Even with this, NiP played 5 major finals in a row...
2022-09-30 12:09
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#95
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Exactly - That is insane consistency, even if they only won one of them, they easily had the ability to win more than one of them.
2022-09-30 13:05
2 replies
#98
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France Alyex
I honestly don't know how you can be that blockhead, he litterally say "no" to every thing you say without specifying a reason other that "I don't like what you just say" Keep up with being a friendly user, that's what make hltv intresting Have a nice day
2022-09-30 13:31
1 reply
I have no reason to not be myself or attempt to have a civil debate just because the other is a biased, arrogant person. ^^ Otherwise, thank you and I hope that you have a nice day too. ^^
2022-09-30 13:36
Flair.
2022-09-30 03:22
#9
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Europe jigglep33k
this but without "It's a different definition for everybody."
2022-09-30 01:35
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#18
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I only stated that because it is obviously subjective, there isn't an official definition or anything, it is user-defined. ^^ It's fun seeing what others think but admittedly, some of them are absurd.
2022-09-30 01:39
ViP defenitly had an era, Virtus Plow was real
2022-09-30 01:57
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#73
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I disagree but they were indeed a force to be reckoned with.
2022-09-30 11:01
#38
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Argentina Joedash
So far event-wise FaZe have been dominating, but length I'd say they still need some more time. At the same time I don't think that losing 1 tournament (like what happened nowadays to faze and in the past to astralis) makes you lose your era of domain. Whatcha think about that? Losing some events I mean.
2022-09-30 02:04
2 replies
#72
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Astralis, fnatic and NiP still lost the occasional tournament but were still on top despite the upset. It's just the losing streak in question that is taken into account.
2022-09-30 10:59
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#96
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Argentina Joedash
Okay M8, thx for the opinion!
2022-09-30 13:09
have a blessed day Jonty04l32
2022-09-30 11:11
1 reply
#79
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Thank you. ^^ You too, friend. :D
2022-09-30 11:12
Igs + major + lots of other events
2022-09-30 01:30
Imo, it means roughly 6-9 months in the top 3, and one of the following - 2 Major titles - 1 Major and 1 Grand Slam - 1 Major and making the grand finals of nearly every S/A tier tournament of the season
2022-09-30 01:33
3 replies
Team Liquid is easily inserted here, so no.
2022-09-30 11:04
1 reply
Team Liquid doesn’t have a Major, so no, they aren’t. Nt tho lil bro.
2022-09-30 19:01
#80
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Switzerland Imodeode
I‘d say at least 9 months top 3, of which at least 4 need to be top 1. Otherwise I agree.
2022-09-30 11:16
Era is something that astralis achieved
2022-09-30 01:33
1 reply
that's not a good argument imo cause astralis era was the most era of csgo.
2022-09-30 16:41
Top 1 HLTV for 52 weeks. It means that they at least won 2 majors and were competitive in other tournaments.
2022-09-30 01:35
2 majors isn't enough, there needs to be more like fx. being ranked #1 and winning other tournaments as well. And also it needs to be for at least a year or more. In CS:GO time I think it's fair to say only Astralis has had an era.
2022-09-30 01:37
6 replies
Fnatic as well
2022-09-30 01:43
1 reply
They won things for sure, but to spread out for it to really be an era.
2022-09-30 15:59
clearly a newfag if you can only recall Astralis era
2022-09-30 11:05
3 replies
Who else then in CS:GO time?
2022-09-30 15:58
2 replies
obviously fnatic
2022-09-30 15:59
1 reply
See #106
2022-09-30 16:01
#16
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Finland Kashmiir
I only know one era and they made a movie about
2022-09-30 01:38
#22
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Ukraine d3adLY
era = winning at least 5 tier 1 tournaments(including major) and being top 1 for 6 months
2022-09-30 01:45
it has to be 2 majors but it doesnt have to be respectively.So Na Vi still has a chance of an era if they win the rest of the tournaments as well as Faze.
2022-09-30 01:45
3 replies
lol if they get an era anything 2021 wont contribute
2022-09-30 01:49
2 replies
It should as it contributed to Astralis remember 2018-2019?
2022-09-30 16:35
1 reply
astralis 2018 was an era, 2019 doesnt count when liquid won half the events that year
2022-10-01 05:15
domination against high competition in which there is no chance a team would beat them navi had no competition therefore no era, faze did but was shaky and lacked dominance so no era
2022-09-30 01:48
navi era with 4 back to back majors in cs astralis era in cs go everything after astralis was good, but no era (liquid, navi2021, faze)
2022-09-30 01:51
3 replies
#45
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United States f1nessd
Based. If liquid won a major in 2019 i think it wouldve been more fair to call it at least a semi era
2022-09-30 02:20
2 replies
if. but they didnt.
2022-09-30 13:53
Nu such thing as a "semi era".
2022-09-30 16:02
#29
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World NukestrikE
how are 2 majors definition of an era...?
2022-09-30 01:52
30 replies
#39
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Brazil Yung_Leann
Cus winnin 2 consecutive majors means that you were the team to beat or de most dominant team between the period of one year.
2022-09-30 02:04
29 replies
#40
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World NukestrikE
first of all he didn say "2 consecutive majors" and secondly 2 consecutive majors doesnt mean that you were dominant at all and lg 2016 is great example of that...
2022-09-30 02:09
28 replies
#41
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Brazil Yung_Leann
Being dominant doesn't mean being unbeatable, it means being the team to beat, even Astralis lost events during their era and Astralis was the most dominant team in CSGO.
2022-09-30 02:14
27 replies
#43
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World NukestrikE
i will try it this way... we had 15 big events in 2016. lg attended 14 of them and won...wait for it...3. they even werent able to win 2 big tournaments in a row. how on earth is that dominant performance? were they the best team that year? sure. were they actually dominant so we can talk about an era? not even close to that
2022-09-30 02:17
26 replies
#47
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Brazil Yung_Leann
2022-09-30 02:21
25 replies
#49
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World NukestrikE
give me a break hltv.org/stats/players/events/9216/coldz.. this is their 2016 in big events. in 2017 they won more big events but 0 majors... still 0 dominance anyway so no idea what are you talking about(yea i know bcs of your flag but clearly biased. lg/sk was NEVER dominant team)
2022-09-30 02:24
24 replies
#50
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Brazil Yung_Leann
Ok, 2 majors in 2016 + a bunch of t1 events 2017, you may think its not an era but they were the top 1 team for that period of time, in csgo eras have tier's you cant just put a team like NiP alongside a team like Astralis, like i said in one of my post above, if we were to rank teams by eras, Astralis would be at tier S and all the other teams would be below them.
2022-09-30 02:33
23 replies
#52
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World NukestrikE
buddy im not hating on them. as you said they were the best team in both 2016 and 2017 and i agree with that no doubt but they werent dominant at all. and OP just said "2 majors" as a reason for an era(not even consecutive) and i just cant agree with that. hltv.org/forums/threads/2684657/grand-sl.. you can read my comment 7 so you can see that im not blind hater. im not saying that they hadnt an era as a fact or something. in my honest opinion they hadnt but as i said in that comment i can understand why a lot of people think otherwise...but never ever use dominance as an argument for lg/sk era bcs this is a fact: they werent dominant:)
2022-09-30 02:38
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#54
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Brazil Yung_Leann
Ok, so if we gonna be picky, only Fnatic and Astralis had an era, people who say that NiP had an era before majors even existed are delusional.
2022-09-30 02:40
21 replies
#57
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World NukestrikE
you cant compare events back in the days and events now. doesnt matter if its majors or grand slams. the scene has evolved but it has nothing to do with nip and you cant take anything from them bcs of it. they were one of the most dominant team in the history which is a fact. a lot of one of the very best players were already full pros in csgo at that time which is also a fact. they invented a lot of things that other teams copied which you can also use an argument for defining an era and thats also a fact... was competition insane? no. is it their fault? also no. should we take credit from potti, spawn, heaton etc bcs they were one of the very first pro players dominating the scene in the early days? i dont think so. was average level of pro teams higher in 2016 and 2017? yes. would 2016/2017 lg/sl destroy nip in their prime? sure. does that mean that nip didnt have and era and one of the most dominant period in esport history? nope...
2022-09-30 02:49
20 replies
#58
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Brazil Yung_Leann
NiP dominated when csgo was a broken beta game, and ppl would rather play source than go, please don't compare them with 1.6 legends.
2022-09-30 02:52
19 replies
#59
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World NukestrikE
youtube.com/watch?v=TbxhbD-9X8M listen to this...i dont know if you follow nba or not but its kinda irrelevant anyway. listen to those arguments why those "plumbers and firemans" were so important for this game and why their era shouldnt be disrespected and its the same with nip
2022-09-30 03:00
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#62
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Brazil Yung_Leann
Idc, no majors no era, you can't be put alongside a team like astralis while you were farming tourneys that had 300$ for prizepool, even you when you showed LG winnings in 2016 you filtered by big events only, the hypocrisy.
2022-09-30 03:12
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#63
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World NukestrikE
how on earth can you compare prize pools in 2012 and 2020. and ofc that i filtered big events so some t5 events wont be included... jesus christ im rather out bcs you have clearly no clue at all and you are CLEARLY biased AF... bye
2022-09-30 03:15
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#64
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Brazil Yung_Leann
You are the one being biased, you wanna be picky, but when someone else is picky, you are like "no, only i can be picky."
2022-09-30 03:18
#66
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Brazil Yung_Leann
Also your NBA example is dumb, cus NBA is the most prestigious league in basketball, its like the majors for csgo, so ofc whoever dominated the NBA should be given props. An analogy for NiP, would be they being the team that dominated a random basketball league before NBA was a thing.
2022-09-30 03:22
2 replies
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2022-09-30 03:25
1 reply
#69
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Brazil Yung_Leann
Expected argument from an American tbh
2022-09-30 03:27
#75
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It wasn't a "broken beta game", your bias is horrendous and you are overvaluing Majors despite the fact LG/SK proves that Majors alone doesn't quantify an era. "please don't compare them with 1.6 legends." Core-NiP literally consisted of 1.6 legends... Are you just illogically NiP hating now? EDIT: General corrections.
2022-09-30 11:15
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#82
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Brazil Yung_Leann
So, major doens't qualify as an era but winning back to back 200$ tourneys do. Are you sure that i'm the one being biased?
2022-09-30 11:25
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#84
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
The difference being NiP were an actually dominant team winning back-to-back tournaments, LG/SK won consecutive Majors and then nothing for 8 whole months before then winning back-to-back tournaments. You keep comparing the prize-pools of events from way back when that is an irrelevant argument because back then, they were the prize-pools of that time in comparison to now. It doesn't matter what the tournament so long as it's considered S-Tier but obviously, Majors obviously go a long way in that they are the biggest tournaments; what matters is dominant consistency alongside that.
2022-09-30 11:31
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#85
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Brazil Yung_Leann
there was no tier S tourneys before the majors m8, stop being a biased fanboy and accept that the only teams who actually had eras were Fnatic and Astralis, or be willing to accept that other teams had eras too.
2022-09-30 11:33
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#86
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Of course they were, why wasn't there? There were a lot of S-Tier tournaments before the first Major, your points are illogical and incredibly unfair to NiP: liquipedia.net/counterstrike/S-Tier_Tour.. "stop being a biased fanboy" My argument is literally unbiased and yours clearly is, so I don't even know if you are reading my posts now... If you aren't reading my posts properly, that's your error.
2022-09-30 11:37
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#88
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Brazil Yung_Leann
So lets follow your dumb logic, NiP managed to win 5 tier "S" events in a row 2012/2013, which had the prizepool of less than 50k each and they had an era. Also if you go to NiP's liquipedia's page and scroll down to where it show a resume of tier S events that they won, these shit 30k events don't even show up there. i.imgur.com/89GwnbR.png NiP is a 1 tier S event era team LMAO
2022-09-30 11:51
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#93
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Yet it still lists them as won on the S-Tier events of Liquipedia, so how is that the fault of NiP? From 2012-2013, they won 5 S-Tier events in a row and then won three more in 2013 after that, also still winning events in 2014, alongside a Major. How is me stating those facts making me biased according to your logic?
2022-09-30 13:03
#89
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Brazil Yung_Leann
Btw thanks for the link, now i can argue that NiP only managed to win 5 tier "S" events in a row without a major in between and that's why they didn't have an era.
2022-09-30 12:00
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#94
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Majors didn't exist back then, so how is that a logical argument to have? You're penalising NiP's accolades because there was no Major? Yeah, very mature of you...
2022-09-30 13:04
3 replies
Lil bro, the fact is, 5 non Major events in a row isn't enough for an era, SK won 2 majors + 6 tier S events in the next year and they didn't have an era, so the "ERA" bar is set pretty high, winning 5 shit tier events in a row isn't an era
2022-09-30 20:38
2 replies
There is no fact at all involved when it comes to what quantifies an era, it is strictly subjective. No amount of points that you ignore will change that. "winning 5 shit tier events in a row isn't an era" It was more than 5, they just won 5 of them in a row and being dated doesn't make that NiP's fault at all. So we agree to disagree then.
2022-10-01 05:03
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Biased04l32
2022-10-01 08:40
Fnatic and Astralis. No other team. You know why.
2022-09-30 02:00
In my opinion it is when a team is not just the favorite to win every tourney they enter, but also it is shocking when they lose.
2022-09-30 02:19
3 replies
#46
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World NukestrikE
so did lg/sk have an era by your criterias:D?
2022-09-30 02:21
2 replies
didn't watch unfortunately so cannot say.
2022-09-30 03:01
1 reply
#61
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World NukestrikE
ok fair:)
2022-09-30 03:01
its a period of time
2022-09-30 02:46
No_major_no_era
2022-09-30 10:59
you need to win 8 prems for it be an era i.e. ENDPOINT have the only era confirmed
2022-09-30 11:11
astralis and lg/sk felt like an era to me, I'm biased so I don't think navi, faze or liquid had an era started watching cs in 2015, so I wasn't here for nip's 87-0 etc.
2022-09-30 11:18
Very few would ask for 2 Majors for an Era, especially not when going back in time. SK/LG got 2 Majors in just 3 months, and won some events closeby, but that was about it. People still wonder whether they got an era or not While a team like NiP who went 87-0 didn't get an Era by those metrics I think you need to start by setting the rules and then applying them to various contenders. I would say that Liquid 2019 is the gatekeeper. I can't decide if it is an Era or not, but you have to do "more" than them to get an era.
2022-09-30 11:27
An era should be self evident. If you have to explain it or argue for it, it's not an era.
2022-09-30 11:39
#99
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Argentina RHM321
Chicago Bulls era
2022-09-30 13:31
#101
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Europe tete4761
a system of chronology dating from a particular event.
2022-09-30 13:38
Navi
2022-09-30 13:56
#104
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Finland KieZuZ
Astralis is last team to have an era. It needs to be era to be called an era.
2022-09-30 14:07
An era is a discussion around retard people
2022-10-01 05:36
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