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Ranking coaches
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Congo, Democratic Republic of tuhti_burger 
Every HLTV analyst seems to have a ranking for CSGO coaches. "You can clearly see B1ad3 influence in this victory!!" "What a great strategy by Groove!!" Guess what, they are all delusional because you have ZERO EVIDENCE what a coach does to a team (because all the strategies, comms and behind the scenes material is KEPT SECRET FOR A REASON), hence you can't rank them at all. The best coaches could be in tier3 organizations, but they just happen to have so fucking bad individuals on the server that the strategies don't matter. RobbaN/blade/groove might be the shittiest coaches in tier1 but they still see constant praise because faze/navi/gambit are so good individually.
2022-09-30 10:31
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2022-09-30 10:32
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ranking coaches is fucking stupid and people who do it are delusional because they have no idea what they are talking about
2022-09-30 10:33
I see your point, but generally Blade/Groove/etc are also praised by people in the scene, thus justifying the general opinion about them
2022-09-30 10:35
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general opinion =/= truth. People base a lot of their opinion on how humble and honest they seem in interviews. Has zero relevancy in terms of actual strategical input.
2022-09-30 10:39
i mean for c9 the players always say how much the coach is doing in terms of preparation, basically in every interview. blade also i having a huge impact on navis playstyle, im just not sure about robban but i agree with your point
2022-09-30 10:37
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Gambit players praising gambit coach???? No way... 100% of teams do this, even if the coach is dogshit.
2022-09-30 10:39
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its not only praising, all the time when they are asked in winners interview about certain things, they always say "idk it was the coach decision", i know other players do the same but they are saying it so often lol but maybe youre right, we cant know for sure
2022-09-30 10:46
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Belgium BradleyTD
Coaches are nothing more than motivators and analysts with the captain.
2022-09-30 10:40
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very much true
2022-09-30 10:47
didn't read
2022-09-30 10:41
zonic astralis era >>
2022-09-30 10:42
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France Ansi
Hmmm actually a good take, unexpected from you, but i like it. HLTV can make a thousand analysis of "inconsistency" and "should rosters be given more time" but thats all useless stat assumption and interpretation. It would be really interesting to see what the REAL added value of a coach really is. How would you measure the value of a coach ?
2022-09-30 10:44
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you can't measure it because all the important parameters are secretive.
2022-09-30 10:48
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FASHR | 
France Ansi
especially if you would compare it to other sports, i guess esports is in line: the general team performance is sort of an indicator of a coach's performance. personally, i like to hear that a coach has big influences on (counter) strats, like we know from B1ad3. what do you think that a good coach brings to a team?
2022-09-30 10:55
You have some pretty bad takes ngl but judging by your flair I guess that is by design
2022-09-30 10:43
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Finland Miroyev
It's pretty obvious groove and blade have had a huge impact. With same logic you could say that the best players could be in tier 3 but they just have shit teams. Clearly we can rate them on their impact and success even though not 100% accurately.
2022-09-30 11:12
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