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navi problems
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Italy alastt27 
let's be fair, they are not even close to their 2021 form, they prove it in G2 game, and I'm not talking about something abstract. 1.most important imo is the Calling, the amount of lost rounds in the g2 game bc of calling is like 12+, I'm not even kidding, it's really impressing, especially on t-side, the calling is really horrible, they should bring a new igl, electronic is just not made for calling. 2.blad3, this may be controversial, but I think he tries to create some new strats different from all others, but he only makes things 10x worse, the they should do more default and fast rounds, and it will be much better 3.losing to force and ecos, that's fucking insane how many rounds they lost to force and eco, in 2021 they were literally never losing to anything like that, I think it's because of calling 4.b1t fell off, no idea why. TLDR: -sdy +good igl someone tell blad3 to not fuck up the defaults too
2022-10-01 21:14
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-sdy +chopper b1t fell off because of position changes
2022-10-01 21:15
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#3
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Italy alastt27
only on inferno if I'm not mistaking
2022-10-01 21:16
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t side on any map b1t dropped off, sdy doesnt create space for his stars like boombl4 did
2022-10-01 21:25
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#27
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Italy alastt27
ye, I noticed that, many people underrate boombl4's impatc as igl and as entry on t side, + the moral hype up
2022-10-01 21:26
Only options they have is boombl4 or Patsi/chopper NaVi swallow pride and get ruski player? I think not.
2022-10-01 21:16
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#5
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Italy alastt27
they have no choice, either way they will lose everything, bc the calling is really bullshit
2022-10-01 21:16
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NaVi would rather lose s1mple than lose their nationalistic bs I guess
2022-10-01 21:19
4 replies
theres no any nationalistic bs, they took sdy because he was free agent simple as that. as for russians they are fine as long as they arent living in russia. perfecto and now elec arent so navi fans are cool with them (except for few idiots like petrik on twitter)
2022-10-01 21:35
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Perfecto and elec are literally keeping the team afloat, very consistent and reliable players. But changes everything, Navi is a Ukrainian org and they are free to take decisions they want.
2022-10-03 15:19
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true, though i saw ukrainian navi fans complaining about elec still living in russia and wanted him gone but now that hes in serbia it stopped
2022-10-03 17:27
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They will still complain, understandably because Russians are enemy and NAVI is representing Ukraine. There is no good solution to this. The best would be for electronic and Perfecto to publicly condemn Russian aggression and Putin's regime. I am sure they did it in private to their colleagues at NAVI, otherwise they wouldn't have kept their places in the team. But they won't say anything in public.
2022-10-07 21:46
It's not about pride, it's about their PR. Since the beginning of war they are fully against russia and putin, they don't want to have anything in common with russia, they asked/forced their players to relocate and now they would get a russian player? It would ruin their whole PR they have been building for last few years or even longer.
2022-10-01 21:26
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#30
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Italy alastt27
2022-10-01 21:30
9 replies
Lose everything? You do realize that money from winning is a small % of their income and most of that comes from sponsors/investors/selling merch etc? They can afford to lose few tournaments but they can't afford to lose their whole PR
2022-10-01 21:33
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You realize that if they don’t start winning they will lose s1mple, which means most of the fans, which means most of the sponsorships
2022-10-01 21:36
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Lose s1mple? how? You think he will just leave navi cuz they aren't winning? He was playing for them for 4.5 years without winning much. He would totally ruin his PR if he leaves navi cuz they aren't winning lmao Even if he would do that - he still has contract and navi pays him shit tons of money. And where'd he go? Actually navi has brand themselves, they will be fine without s1mple. Anyway, they can risk and stick to their current "plan" or they can lose their PR immediately.
2022-10-01 21:46
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You can be sure s1mple won’t resign after his contract expires if they don’t win anything. You as a danish fan should know how this works from device leaving
2022-10-01 21:50
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Do u really think s1mple is whore for trophies or money at this point? He literally achieved everything, earned a lot of money. And who the fuck might offer him more? No one.
2022-10-01 21:50
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device had everything and left didn’t he? s1mple is the goat and 1 major isn’t enough
2022-10-01 21:51
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Well s1mple has already more than device. And difference was that device wasn't that far ahead, s1mple was really close to him. And rn s1mple is miles ahead of rest, zywoo is close but he's missing a lot of individual and team achievments, I doub't device will recover after this whole situation. S1mple and navi are bound to each other, same as zywoo to vitality.
2022-10-01 21:54
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Not really, s1mple should have 2 grand slams, 3 major mvps, 5 top 1s
2022-10-01 21:55
1 reply
idk what are u smoking but u should stop
2022-10-01 22:03
#36
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Europe S0me_dude
Pride ? Navi is ukranian org and Ukraine is at war against Russia, how do you expect them to get russian player ? Add to this, possible travel restrictions on russian players in the future and massive PR loses, it's just not worth it.
2022-10-01 21:35
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#38
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Italy alastt27
who they should pick then as igl?
2022-10-01 21:35
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#42
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Europe S0me_dude
if they fail massively at the major, then they should try international igl
2022-10-01 21:43
electronic IGLing is the biggest problem currently
2022-10-01 21:16
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#6
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Italy alastt27
I agree
2022-10-01 21:17
#7
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Germany Inf1nnity
sdy is doing pretty good imo
2022-10-01 21:17
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#8
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Italy alastt27
he is playing like an igl, and he is not even a support, navi need to replace him with a great igl
2022-10-01 21:18
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#14
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Germany Inf1nnity
sdy is not igl
2022-10-01 21:20
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#15
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Italy alastt27
electronic is
2022-10-01 21:20
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#16
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Germany Inf1nnity
they need a bit more time. and a ddos free enviroment that brought them down i guess
2022-10-01 21:21
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#18
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Italy alastt27
they had 2 months
2022-10-01 21:22
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#19
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Germany Inf1nnity
yes other teams need way more than that wait for the major then judge
2022-10-01 21:23
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#21
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Italy alastt27
idk man, the problems seem to serious
2022-10-01 21:24
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#22
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Germany Inf1nnity
if they suck at the major they will make changes
2022-10-01 21:25
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#24
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Italy alastt27
yep, that's obvious
2022-10-01 21:25
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#26
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Germany Inf1nnity
but give them time until then
2022-10-01 21:25
"sdy is doing pretty good imo" sdy's Overall Performance since joining NaVi: 0.98 rating / 0.86 impact 0.62 DPR / 0.60 KPR with 66.0 ADR hltv.org/stats/players/12731/sdy?startDa.. sdy @ EPL 16 Playoffs: NaVi vs Heroic: 16-21 with 0.82 rating (NaVi won 16-14) 17-20 with 0.88 rating (NaVi lost 14-16) 17-11 with 1.18 rating (NaVi won 16-7) NaVi vs G2: 17-20 with 0.93 rating (NaVi won 16-13) 15-18 with 0.91 rating (NaVi lost 9-16) 11-20 with 0.77 rating (NaVi lost 9-16) hltv.org/stats/players/matches/12731/sdy.. sdy's Event Performances since joining NaVi: *Blast Fall Groups is Excluded due to the event not being over. He had a 1.01 rating at the Group Stage* sdy @ Blast Premier Spring Final (NaVi won the event): 1.02 rating / 0.80 impact 0.55 DPR / 0.59 KPR with 62.4 ADR hltv.org/stats/players/12731/sdy?startDa.. sdy @ IEM Cologne 2022 (NaVi lost to FaZe in the Finals 2-3): 0.95 rating / 0.83 impact 0.67 DPR / 0.62 KPR with 67.7 ADR hltv.org/stats/players/12731/sdy?startDa.. sdy vs FaZe in the Finals @ IEM Cologne: 0.88 rating / 0.80 impact 0.72 DPR / 0.58 KPR with 66.3 ADR *12-18 in opening duels* *Had both the lowest playing rating as well as lowest impact out of any player on either team in the Finals* hltv.org/stats/matches/performance/90168.. sdy @ ESL Pro League Season 16 (NaVi lost to G2 in the Quarterfinals 1-2): 0.96 rating / 0.90 impact 0.64 DPR / 0.60 KPR with 66.4 ADR hltv.org/stats/players/12731/sdy?startDa.. sdy vs G2 in the Quarterfinals @ EPL 16: 0.87 rating / 0.73 impact 0.73 DPR / 0.54 KPR with 70.0 ADR hltv.org/stats/matches/performance/91906.. Objectively speaking, the statistics suggest that he has NOT been "doing pretty good". -- NA Number's Guy
2022-10-01 22:24
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+1
2022-10-03 15:18
#9
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Ukraine shisee
b1t fell off cuz of role changes
2022-10-01 21:18
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#12
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Italy alastt27
only on inferno he plays B instead of A, on t side i didn't notice some huge difference
2022-10-01 21:19
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he wen't from cpl entry to banana support thats a huge fucking difference
2022-10-01 21:36
you are level5 opinion rejected
2022-10-01 21:19
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#17
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Italy alastt27
ok
2022-10-01 21:22
smart
2022-10-01 21:19
I'm not convinced by elec as igl either. Not much to say about the rest but I can agree with +igl foe sdy but whooooooo?
2022-10-01 21:24
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#23
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Italy alastt27
that's the problem, if we exclude russian igls, there's no one
2022-10-01 21:25
they should make sdy igl, problem solved
2022-10-01 21:29
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#31
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Italy alastt27
they need a good, experieneced igl.
2022-10-01 21:31
-sdy +boombl4. ez. boombl4 is a good guy irl, he just made a mistake and he was never pro-war, it was his ''wife''
2022-10-01 21:32
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#35
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Italy alastt27
may be, he probably doesn't like cs go anymore, he has like 5 hours past months
2022-10-01 21:34
#34
Snappi | 
Poland SebL
If I'm being completely honest I just feel like everyone dropped off individually, s1mple, elec, b1t, all seem way worse to me, still good but not on their 2021 level, that's the problem, I don't think calling is the problem for Na'Vi, I actually really think elec is doing a good job as an IGL. Also I think they should trust B1ad3 as much as possible, I think he has one of the best minds for the game in history of the game, and I think he will make it work, just listen to him and it should be fine.
2022-10-01 21:33
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#37
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Italy alastt27
I completely don't agree, go watch games, that calling is fucking awful
2022-10-01 21:34
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#57
Snappi | 
Poland SebL
I watched most of their recent games and I just really don't see it
2022-10-03 15:09
sdy doesn't fit in na'vi. That's the main problem. elec was a rock as a rifler before. Without that, na'vi really suffers tbh. they still need time to adjust to the changes they have made because of sdy.
2022-10-01 21:52
-sdy still not ready for tier 1 Blade is Okey wtf he build all structure Navi have
2022-10-01 21:54
#51
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France d0py
navi aleksi
2022-10-01 21:59
#53
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Russia super_rat
-s1mple + m0nesy -electronic + HooXi
2022-10-01 22:08
bye bye bots
2022-10-01 22:12
I feel like we should give it some time, the moment electronic can manage to be igl with its firepower with the NAVI rifle it will shine again. I feel that the problem is sdy and it is not that I don't like it, it also contributes its own, but I feel that it is not what NAVI needed. As you mention, you have to trust Blade but I feel that b1t has been the most affected by the changes, changes that Blade made.
2022-10-01 22:32
#58
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Romania styl3noxe
overall it s just a bad period, it happens, they ve been good for a long time.However, they should get an actual igl.Sad for sdy, but it is what it is.It's fucking 2022 and people still do not understand you can t do anything without a proper igl and/or awper.
2022-10-03 15:15
>4.b1t fell off, no idea why. You dont know anything so just be quiet.
2022-10-03 15:18
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#63
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Italy alastt27
the only map he changed positions is inferno, instead of A, he plays B, that's it, on T side, as always he is not the entry
2022-10-03 22:20
At this point they should drop sdy immediately
2022-10-03 22:21
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