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Liquid truth
nafany | 
India Devil100 
I am not agreeing with that Toxic bot on Twitter calling himself as esports. But what i am asserting is Liquid is a normal Top 6 team, but one which can lose to any top 15 team, and if they face Faze/Navi?vitality/G2 in their 100% they mostly will lose, because liquid has been playing at a 120% while other top teams kinda fell off. And as for C9, yes they are a Top 4 team but because of the clash of playstyle while yekindar also knows how c9 plays to the depth, makes it very hard for them to beat liquid, as yeki does secondary calling. But Liquid is still no match for the likes of Navi/FAze/Vita and G2 when these teams play to their full potential. Your teams, i may be extremely underestimating them, but the results arent that big to see them as a contender for the major.
2022-10-04 15:34
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bruh faze would destroy liquid so hard.
2022-10-04 15:35
11 replies
even C9 will destroy them now.
2022-10-04 15:35
7 replies
Actual brain rot , how many times does liquid need to smash those Online only bots for you to shut up
2022-10-04 15:38
2 replies
the "online bots" has better results than lulquid in the last 2 years LOL liquid 1 grand final fluke in 3 years lmao ajajaa what a good lan team LOL
2022-10-05 01:34
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Make it last 4 years then and compare.
2022-10-05 09:19
Hasn’t Liquid beat C9 like 4 times in a row?
2022-10-05 00:49
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Yeah, they've won 6 of their last 7 maps against them, but he seems to like to pretend that it didn't happen so it fits his narrative
2022-10-05 02:12
#50
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United States mstang
Lol Liquid has beat C9 three times now. What more do they have to do to be considered the better team?
2022-10-05 03:14
they've beat C9 3 times in a row now so idk what you're on about
2022-10-05 05:34
#12
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North America Camino
Yeah probably an irrelevant team or something idk
2022-10-04 15:39
how about we start beating #60 teams without 10 overtimes
2022-10-04 15:40
lol
2022-10-04 15:41
#3
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United States McBubba
I think while Liquid may not be on the same level as these teams, like you said these teams have fallen off a bit, and since there's no player break between the major and now, I think Liquid should be considered as serious major contenders. Just my two cents, call it Copium if you wish.
2022-10-04 15:36
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I've bet ~100$ on liquid winning the major with 11x return if i win, i mean they are far from favourites, but i would put liquid as #5 after the other ones in this weeks top 5. but if oSee, yekindar, NAF and Elige play at their peak i see no other reality than liquid finally winning a major. (Then again i have said that every single major and put them to win the major every time they qualified for playoffs ruining every chance at a gold coin, but i would never forgive myself if they won and i picked someone else to win)
2022-10-04 15:59
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#38
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United States Topher
Based
2022-10-05 02:06
#44
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United States McBubba
Felt that. At this point it’s a tradition to get a gold coin 😂.
2022-10-05 02:21
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#4
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United States cr4zy_m3
They had it against vitality, just one round could’ve made them win the whole things
2022-10-04 15:36
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#37
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United States Dust2lamb
Liquid would of won if zywoo didnt cary
2022-10-05 01:51
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#49
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United States Dug
even with the zywoo carry, liquid would have won if elige showed up for 1 map.
2022-10-05 03:09
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HOLY SHIT NA COPIUM OVERDOSE
2022-10-05 08:10
#69
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France Gabenjaa
same with spinx
2022-10-05 08:19
C9 almost won Liquid. Next time na won’t have any chances
2022-10-04 15:38
3-2 final bruh
2022-10-04 15:36
7 replies
bruh they not meet navi or faze or g2 in playoff bruh
2022-10-04 15:38
I said teams playing at an 100%, Vita is a new team with just one and half months of practice. even this major i dont think we may see their full potential, as spinx seems a bit uncomfortable in certain positions on certain maps, which with time he will get used to and perform like he is supposed to.
2022-10-04 15:39
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Liquid isnt a very old team either, also their star player elige had a terrible tournament. They still have a lot of room to improve, its not like their roster has reached its peak either
2022-10-04 15:46
#68
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Brazil Yung_Leann
They barely made out groups tho, they lost to Furia and EF
2022-10-05 08:13
3 replies
and then turned it around after
2022-10-05 09:28
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#78
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Brazil Yung_Leann
Imo they got extremely luck with the brackets, cus they faced C9 twice, apparently C9 is a good matchup for Liquid, didnt face Na'vi,FaZe,G2.
2022-10-05 10:39
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true, but there's no guarantee that liquid wouldnt have done well against them. they havent played all 3 of these teams in a bo3 LAN in at least 6 months
2022-10-05 18:16
#7
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Czech Republic Evis1337
liquid had best event they've had in years and everyone else played like shit (faze, navi)
2022-10-04 15:38
#8
arT | 
Asia ke1fu
ppl hate on na for no reason if na really die cs will die
2022-10-04 15:38
5 replies
I am not hating, i didnt call them shit or something, i am just saying i dont think they can be called as a contender for the major as many are calling
2022-10-04 15:40
2 replies
And faze can be called as contenders for the major ?
2022-10-04 15:42
#20
arT | 
Asia ke1fu
I am not taking about you I am talking about those guy always trash talk liquid and say like liquid fluke to grand final and a 2-3 lose means they are trash. They are not top 1 but not trash either
2022-10-04 15:42
#76
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Denmark Danny D3
NA has had periods where it has been almost completely dead for long periods of time. The worst was obviously when the Valorant transition happened. CS is fine.. and NA will always come back in cope capacity, but probably never how they once were. 7 teams in the top100 is underwhelming to say the least.. and three of them are in the same organization. There's both a lack of talent and sponsors.
2022-10-05 09:40
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#77
arT | 
Asia ke1fu
most good player in na will most likely go to valorant
2022-10-05 10:22
how much
2022-10-04 15:39
1 reply
which match?
2022-10-04 15:41
flair, /close
2022-10-04 15:41
flair check out
2022-10-04 15:49
Ah Vitality is a new team, while Liquid has more 1 event more than them. Liquid is done, they won't beat Faze (who is stuggling against GL) G2 who had horrible t sides against vitality Can you wait a bit for anyone ?
2022-10-04 15:49
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I said when these top 4 teams are playing at their 100%, rn faze has fallen off a bit they are playing at their 50-60
2022-10-05 00:26
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Liquid is playing at 100 % rn ? I thought it was a new team and they don't have a good map pool yet, but it is okay for g2 or vitality. I like how you can give chances to g2 or vitality, but not liquid on won 2 times against c9. It's truth c9 was not playing at 100 %. They choke like many times before, but we will give a time instead of liquid.
2022-10-05 01:05
Edit : I forget, Liquid is on the honeymoon. That's why ! I forgot about it. G2 and Vitality ? No, they don't have honeymoon, this concept is only for fluke teams like Liquid. The hooxi memes will last forever. Monesy and niko won't never tilt against him. G2 are not playing puggy, individuals plays rn.
2022-10-05 01:28
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There is only a certain limit that yekindar can surpass to make liquid sustain as a Top 6 team. And yes thats my subjective take, u are free to make your own assumptions
2022-10-05 05:26
Edit: The reason OP feels this way is he doesn't think any of Liquid's native pieces are any good. He doesn't mention any player but Yekindar. The reality however is that NAF and Elige are stars in this sport. Osee just proved he can hang in big moments. Thrive even. The strength of this team is they have a better core of riflers then anyone aside from maybe Faze who is the team that should give them the most trouble. Everyone else is beatable assuming they are putting the time in. Only thing stopping this team. And if Osee continues his improvement Faze is beatable as well.
2022-10-05 00:47
How many bad tournaments in a row does Faze have to play for people to realize that they are not the same team from earlier this year? They should have lost to Complexity 2-0 but got saved because they won a full usp round. They almost lost to a tier 3 team today in the RMR. This is not the same Faze as earlier. And as far as G2 goes, Liquid has more talent overall and the roles suit the players much better than G2s do.
2022-10-05 01:14
2 replies
this is the best answer here and I agree with everything you said
2022-10-05 01:25
#31 i actually hope we can agree on the last part
2022-10-05 01:33
Actually The reason Liquid did so well, was/is because of YEKINDAR. They added a star player to an already ok team, and gave him the best roles. No teams have practiced yet to shut him down, that is why you see him being able to hard carry like that. Any team that goes against lets say Na’Vi, knows S1mples positions and knows when to avoid or where to throw their utility to block him out. After a couple of weeks/months, everyone will have figured YEKINDAR on Liquid out and they are back to being shelled Also i agree with you, but the same applies for the teams you mentioned, nobody practices for Liquid, Liquid practices for the teams you mentioned. One of the biggest issues with FaZe at the moment, is their inability to innovent, so every team reads them like a book. When you are at top, everybody tries to beat you, thats why we see upsets
2022-10-05 01:32
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+1
2022-10-05 05:37
#35
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Egypt BomberMan_
TL is like a top 6 team. Ppl will think they are like top 4 or even higher with the Finals Finish in Pro League when in reality with unlucky/normal seeding this team finishes top 8 or Top4 (when they get a good matchup like C9). Also, who knows how long oSee will continue to play this well? If he drops back to shitty form TL will get eaten alive by the teams with elite awpers unless yekindar elige and naf hard carry which they can do against some teams, but after top 5 I have my doubts.
2022-10-05 01:35
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"drops back to shitty form" ????? this is literally his worst tournament since YEKINDAR joined lil bro. 1.11 rating at Cologne, 1.15 at Blast.
2022-10-05 02:19
They almost beat vitality and best Cloud9 9 3 times in a row now wtf do you need to stop the hate on NA
2022-10-05 02:13
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#70
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Brazil Yung_Leann
If we gonna talk about almost, then they almost didn't make out of groups, lost to Furia and EF, then got matched against c9 twice, which apparently is good matchup for them and they made to the finals without facing Navi,G2,FaZe
2022-10-05 08:19
I am not hating on Na
2022-10-05 19:57
Liquid is not playing at "120%". thats just a statement you created to demean Liquid's performance at EPL. It's impossible to say that they were playing at 120% when oSee was struggling hard in groups and EliGE was struggling hard in playoffs. You could maybe argue that they were playing at 120% at BLAST individually but their teamwork was much less refined than at EPL. Unfortunately its hard to convince a Liquid hater that Liquid is actually good because it's impossible to make others understand that you need a competent entry fragger to be good, which Liquid hasn't had since 2019. YEKINDAR is a piece of the puzzle, he isn't the whole puzzle.
2022-10-05 02:21
1 reply
ahahaha +1
2022-10-05 07:51
#43
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United States cybonics
Yekindar calling thorin out for being toxic after begging for interviews made Thorin SUPER butthurt. holy shit
2022-10-05 02:21
#57
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United States charybids
They just lost 3-2 to Vitality with chances to win every map except D2. So how does this translate to will lose "100%" to these teams?
2022-10-05 05:44
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I didnt say they will lose 100%, i meant if the teams mentioned above play at their 100% for the major, then liquid most likely will lose against them, like 7 out of 10 times
2022-10-05 07:44
So why can G2 be called as contender for major, just cuz you rate their members higher? Your argument for liquid is the same argument for G2/Vitality. You are clearly having NA bias when you say they cant beat vitality/G2 at their 100%. What have g2 show really yet? Why do you rate the core set of hunter jks monesy niko better than elige naf yekindar osee. Certainly osee needs a fair bit of catching up to do, but you act as if the teams firepower is weak and their 100% itself is weak. How do you even see contenders, teams which have perfored well, liquid past 3 tourneys performance, 5-6 cologne, 1-3 blast, 2nd esl pro league. Much better results than anything g2 has got. But no, your mind is already set that g2 has more "potential" than liquid. Who are you to decide a teams potential on their own? Liquid has given hard solid results, but cuz you dont believe in them doesnt make it "truth".
2022-10-05 07:40
"because liquid has been playing at a 120% while other top teams kinda fell off." HOLY COPIUM and how exactly do you quantify that percentage? because the favourites lost thats why? KEKW osee their awper went missing in group stages elige was missing in the playoffs nitro is nitro he wont perform in all maps how is that even a 100%
2022-10-05 07:51
2 replies
YeKINDAR 40 bombs , Double entries, elige 1v3 Clutches , naf locking down sites like a beast anchor, and osee sometimes hitting nutty shots, even though he was inconsistent but in playoffs he became a beast
2022-10-05 08:24
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in playoffs elige wasnt playing how he used to tho calling it 120% is purely downplaying their performance to fit your narrative but then again flair checks out so I expect nothing
2022-10-05 09:16
Liquid>faze
2022-10-05 09:35
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