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Is the a1 nerf actually a buff?
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Croatia KraljBrk 
I've been thinking about it, but it looks to me that teams are now using the a1 to it's strengths even more than before the a1-s nerf. CT's are specifically using the gun for body shots, smoke spams, and controlled burst. They aren't trying to use the gun the same way as before (i.e. spraydowns). It looks to me as if nerfing the gun, actually made the players abuse the gun in it's strengths more. The whole situation reminds me of the NHL making goalie equipment smaller to have more scoring (entertainment), but the goalies have actually gotten better as a result of it. So do you guys agree that the a1-s is actually more abused now than pre nerf?? TL:DR- Daily schizophrenia thread
2022-10-06 03:02
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Indonesia dharmasura
kekw
2022-10-06 03:04
yes edit: didnt read
2022-10-06 03:05
#3
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Sweden O7D
more abused before but i guess you can say people are better at using it more effectively (adapted to update) with bursts etc.
2022-10-06 03:05
#4
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United States zovint
What was the nerf? Ammo reduction ? Eh it’s possible probably just people got better with it :D
2022-10-06 03:47
3 replies
rate of fire i think
2022-10-06 03:55
1 reply
No, that wasn't touched
2022-10-06 21:35
#6
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United States 1Tuurtle
Yeah ammo reduction
2022-10-06 04:19
I feel like the same... teams just refrain the spamming a bit( need to coordinate with nades and teamplay cover). I remember from top teams, zywoo, magisk, and Hobbit sometimes use A4. I think it is situational
2022-10-06 04:41
dont think so hard. be like xantares, just shoot enemy
2022-10-06 04:45
3 replies
based
2022-10-06 05:02
#12
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Croatia KraljBrk
fair enough, typically you win game if u kill them more than they kill u
2022-10-06 05:34
1 reply
enemy team cant use grenades or plan strategy when xantares hold w and get 3 kill
2022-10-06 12:42
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Poland 138|
its used in the same way as before (the ammo reduction nerf). Spamming through smoke is the meta as it was. Pros started abusing this dog weapon after 4-shots-to-kill buff but then realized how GOOD it is to just braindead spam through smoke. You dont get classic 88 in 4 with m4a1 as often as you do with m4a4.
2022-10-06 04:53
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#10
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Czech Republic Evis1337
You never get 88 in 4. A1s is 4 shot kill kill even from 2000 meters and legshots
2022-10-06 04:59
6 replies
That's what he said, brother :)
2022-10-06 06:46
4 replies
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Czech Republic Evis1337
That is not what he said. He said it's possible to get it with a1s ("not as often")
2022-10-06 08:48
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Germany Germen
it is possible with wallbangs
2022-10-06 08:54
2 replies
#29
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Czech Republic Evis1337
Then you could say that awp is not 1 hit kill or that AK doesn't one tap head
2022-10-06 21:32
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#30
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Germany Germen
I could say that
2022-10-06 21:33
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Petra | 
Poland 138|
its possible in 1.6 when you play 100+ fps
2022-10-06 21:23
#13
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United States falldeluge
should be a good nerf but still not enough, though i doubt what valve can do though
2022-10-06 05:44
a4 needs buff
2022-10-06 06:40
lol it needs a real nerf not a reduction in ammo. The gun is way to easy to use, its a damn laser beam. The m4a4 actually took skill to get a perfect spray pattern, with the a m4a1 you can just kinda half ass it and the pattern is so narrow combined with how much dmg it does you get easy kills. CS should always prioritize what takes more skill IMO. At this point it's practically better than an AK
2022-10-06 06:43
Im so bad at M4A4 compared to AK
2022-10-06 06:51
It's not that it's a psychological buff, people just need to understand 25 --> 20 is hardly a nerf for a pro player. In theory you only need 10 bullets to ace a fully armored team, but more importantly, in this current pro meta because of how easy it is to multikill with A1-S hardly any teams are doing 5 man rushes, most players space out for trades instead of peeking two by two in huddled groups = A1-S is still king When was the last time you seen any M4A4 pro player spray all 30 bullets in a clip on a site defense? It never happens. On the other hand even though 95%+ players are running M4A1-S you see players die from running out of their 20 clip maybe once every 5, 10 games. It's not something happens frequently enough to be a meaningful downside once your aim is that good, you don't need a full clip to mow down and shut down a push.
2022-10-06 08:18
#19
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Indonesia BanDr
idk, i use a4 :)
2022-10-06 08:34
They should make a1s 3100, and a4 2900
2022-10-06 08:37
2 replies
probably, but the game would still be heavily CT sided on any map not named Inferno
2022-10-06 08:42
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Germany MTD3
+1
2022-10-06 08:46
yes its buff
2022-10-06 08:43
They simultaneously buffed it while nerfing it, it was hardly a nerf and only made some site anchors switch back to the A4
2022-10-06 08:53
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