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Hungary szalaithegoat 
Keep blaming the tier 1 teams who's were playing in tournaments 5 days ago, while they have to play best of 1-s against teams who's has been practicing for this since the end of the summer. I'm pretty sure tomorrow we will see teams like B8 or1Win will lose in Bo3-s because it's going to be too hard for them, this Bo1 system just makes every team looks unpredictable, specially in maps like ancient.
2022-10-06 13:16
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whats your solution for this?
2022-10-06 13:17
21 replies
Best of 3-s only, and simple group stage instead of swiss system.
2022-10-06 13:18
12 replies
#10
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Nepal triskacik
how would you seed the teams in groups? U're delusional, this system is good, if a shit team surprises they still need to win the bo3 which they should not be able to according to you so it's working well )))
2022-10-06 13:20
4 replies
winning 2x bo3 > winning a single bo3 cs has been out for 10 years and we still determine major spots by bo1's xD
2022-10-06 13:37
3 replies
#46
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Brazil Miguer
we don't determine by bo1's bro, how much copium are you going to use to prove your point? every team needs to win at least one bo3. can your small brain understand that the deciding match is a bo3?? do you know that that means we determine major spots by bo3's??
2022-10-06 13:52
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Ok let me explain to u. in bo3: Good team has higher percentage of winning vs a bad team in bo1: More like 50/50 with every team playing 2/3 of their matches (independent of outcome) as a bo1 there is going to be a way higher chance of good/t1 teams facing each other in the 0-2 or 1-2 bracket. Sure the worse teams needs to win a bo3 aswell, but with 2/3 matches being bo1 it is pretty likely that the matchups will be night and day. For example g2 can face fnatic for elimination while b8 faces 1win for a qualifying spot for the major. We do indirectly determine majors by bo1 as elite teams will likely face each other for elimination due to randomness of bo1's
2022-10-06 14:21
you would put bo3 in every match of group and suddenly instead of 5 days RMR tournament you have like 12 days or less but not every match would be streamed or played on stage which is bullshit for people then you have 2 more swiss groups until major play offs how long would it take? now bo1s yes are unpredcitable but still to be out of tournament or going further you need to win/lose bo3 and that shouldnt happen to teams like G2 etc
2022-10-06 14:09
How do you make the groups?
2022-10-06 13:21
5 replies
IMO, an event like EPL should be the solution. Imagine that, if the group stage of the tournament could be the RMR as well, and then the playoffs could decide about Legends Stage, etc.
2022-10-06 13:34
4 replies
What about smaller teams like BNE or B8 for example? How could they qualify
2022-10-06 13:36
1 reply
Through smaller tournaments like EPL Conference or ESL Challenger, there should be also a online qualifier but with less teams getting out from there.
2022-10-06 13:44
#35
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Nepal triskacik
so RMR takes longer than a major itself xdddd nice idea
2022-10-06 13:38
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yes, also thanks for saying that its a nice idea, i will keep going ;)
2022-10-06 13:42
ppl were complaining about groups of death earlier, so we went into swiss system, then they blamed swiss so we went onto Buchholz. bo3 is probably a solution, but group stage I dont know
2022-10-06 13:29
bo3 obviously, not just here, same in qualifiers that's even worst because they're held online
2022-10-06 13:19
4 replies
+1
2022-10-06 13:20
The way qualifiers are now is okay IMO, bo3 starting at round of 32. Doing bo3 all online quali would make it super long
2022-10-06 13:21
2 replies
If you move all the T1 teams to go through qualifiers, half of them wouldn't qualify, like G2 here or maybe Faze that had a close map yesterday, because in online it's even harder. Bo3 should start sooner than 32, at least on 64, if it makes it super long, that would be for the teams, not for the viewers since half of those games are not even in twitch but at least is more fair to decide which team is better for real. Some teams in those qualifiers only play one map 24/7, you move them to a Bo3 and they don't even know how to execute, but on that map, they are really good.
2022-10-06 14:03
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Well round of 64 I'd agree on, anything earlier than that would just be a waste of everyone's time IMO. As a pro team you should probably be able to just outduel a fpl mix team in round 128, if you lose then, it probably indicates something (similar like Movistar after their roster changes didnt get to RMR and EPL proved that they aren't t1 worthy atm)
2022-10-06 16:06
don't have tournaments a week before rmr
2022-10-06 14:11
1 reply
makes sense
2022-10-06 14:23
#76
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Jamaica Haloman
Delete ancient :)
2022-10-06 15:10
nobody is forcing you to play ancient. plus you literally have 3 lives, if you cant make it out its only yourself to blame
2022-10-06 13:17
#4
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France Evalion
The fact that the pro league playoffs and RMR are so close is ridiculous thats true
2022-10-06 13:17
+1
2022-10-06 13:17
#8
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Russia M31F
the current system, the best system, no annoying long matches like in the EPL
2022-10-06 13:19
1 reply
Maybe i different, but i really enjoyed those long games.
2022-10-06 13:35
swiss system is the best stop finding excuses for tier1 teams
2022-10-06 13:19
#14
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Poland Astoner55
If all games in the swiss system were bo3s then the system would be perfect. But with bo1s... I agree, it's a bit flawed
2022-10-06 13:21
5 replies
Dude if you are a tier1 team you should be 16-0 against any tier2 teams
2022-10-06 13:21
2 replies
#21
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Poland Astoner55
Tell me you don't know shit about CS without telling me you don't know shit about CS. lol
2022-10-06 13:22
1 reply
this.
2022-10-06 13:37
#38
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Canada Mizwu
yeah so the rmr will go on for a month
2022-10-06 13:41
1 reply
#39
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Poland Astoner55
Nah, just make two studios and run the matches at the same time. It would take 1, maybe 2 more days than the current RMRs.
2022-10-06 13:42
Excuses look at the g2 players and 1win players g2 plays tier 1 events constantly 1win plays tier 2-3 events even on bo1 its unacceptable.
2022-10-06 13:22
how much?
2022-10-06 13:22
#24
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Spain moorakami
Yeah it's fucked. First things first, there shouldn't be BO1 in a such an important tournament. Second, the swiss system is good only when it decides who quallifies. It is not applicable to when you need to decide placements. There is no way placement can be decided based on who has the best fucking Buchholz number. This is just stupid. Just because another team played "better" opponents they will have to skip the entire swiss challenger stage.
2022-10-06 13:22
6 replies
+1
2022-10-06 13:45
Have they removed the decider matches for legend? Because there certainly was such matches in pgl rmr tournaments.
2022-10-06 14:33
4 replies
#72
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Spain moorakami
Yes there was a match between NAVI and FORZE who both finished 3-1 in the RMR. Howeve FAZE, who also finished 3-1, didn't have to play an additional qualification match and got directly to the Legends stage. Same shit in the second RMR. G2 finished 3-1 just like NIP and ENCE, but didn't even had a chance to qualify for the Legends and got relegated straight to the Challengers stage.
2022-10-06 14:54
3 replies
Oh that. Yes, its slightly strange. But done to cut down the amount of matches. Not a big deal in my opinion, but I can understand if somebody sees it otherwise.
2022-10-06 14:55
2 replies
#74
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Spain moorakami
Imagine being in G2 at that moment.
2022-10-06 14:55
1 reply
Should just play better and not find themselves at 3-1 bracket.
2022-10-06 15:09
CRY
2022-10-06 13:22
1 reply
Reported for not helping me, im gonna be drown in my tears soon.
2022-10-06 13:36
#27
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Russia WiHuu
How much?
2022-10-06 13:33
present system bestest
2022-10-06 13:37
#37
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Canada Mizwu
reported
2022-10-06 13:40
The first match should be bo1. The rest should be bo3 IMO.
2022-10-06 13:43
3 replies
Hmmm
2022-10-06 13:45
that makes even less sense, just make them all bo3 in that case
2022-10-06 13:48
1 reply
Just for seeding purpose. The match is seeding and helps underdog
2022-10-06 13:59
Dont try finding excuses for them xD if g2 wont make it they absolutely deserve it
2022-10-06 13:46
#48
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Russia WiHuu
Just play better lmao
2022-10-06 14:01
hltv.org/events/1611/esl-one-katowice-20.. Look at this. Back in those days it was Bo1 groups all the way. Now kids crying that their fav teams cant win 3 games before they lose 3 games hahahaha Hopefully these lower teams keep rekting these free invite teams and you idiots keep crying
2022-10-06 14:05
4 replies
i mean you surely know everything about 2015 games if you registered at 2022-08-16...
2022-10-06 14:10
3 replies
Im watching/following csgo scene since mid 2014. Edit: I stopped in around late 2018 to 2019 tho. Astralis winning everything and VP being terrible makes me quit watching the scene it was sad days :/
2022-10-06 14:14
2 replies
If thats true, then i respect this, i tought you are a 10yo just because of the way you typed your first comment.
2022-10-06 14:21
1 reply
Nah i just dont like people crying about swiss sytsem when they have s tier events with invited teams all year. hltv.org/events/6372/pgl-major-antwerp-2.. Just look at this. This is last major and basically lots of big teams made it. I just dont get it why people cry this much. Imo its pretty refreshing to see new teams/faces. Im 24 yo btw. In hltv you have to write like 10 tho lol
2022-10-06 14:29
than ban ancient, lol the maps are not random. But I agree a bit with you, mr12 bo3 would been better
2022-10-06 14:05
#58
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Turkey Mertovic
you god damn right
2022-10-06 14:16
Its good this way, more entertaining.
2022-10-06 14:22
#64
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Finland Miroyev
Funny how all the favorites won on the first day, you know the only one for which the underdogs could've prepared against specific teams.
2022-10-06 14:27
1 reply
+1
2022-10-06 14:34
#65
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Vietnam trinhloi
stop crying if u don't play well don't blame the system
2022-10-06 14:28
partner spot abusers getting exposed in RMR
2022-10-06 14:33
#77
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United Kingdom lucina
nooooooo my favorite team didn’t win
2022-10-06 15:14
#78
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United States Zedsamcat
whos your favorite team haha
2022-10-06 15:28
#79
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Jamaica Haloman
Anybody else think vertigo and ancient are super booring to watch and never watches them? I think its sad we have this bad map pool and some games are just unwatchable becouse of those maps. Make map pool great again <3
2022-10-06 15:30
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