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IF Furia wins the major
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Argentina alexo2222 
Will people forever say they won because of the crowd?
2022-11-12 22:28
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#1
ZywOo | 
France naviis
YES
2022-11-12 22:28
2 replies
Flair checks
2022-11-12 22:50
#41
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Brazil Ties4
Flag and flair
2022-11-12 22:54
#2
NAF | 
Canada Jraptorr
Not crowd, but will be looked at as a fluke major. Just like krakow 2017
2022-11-12 22:29
32 replies
#4
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Brazil galaxysz
but who cares? this major is the best
2022-11-12 22:29
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#8
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Canada Jraptorr
Not best, but unique. I have no issues with underdogs doing well, but people will say it's underwhelming cause big teams were not in playoffs.
2022-11-12 22:32
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#11
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Brazil galaxysz
yeah, i understand but i like a major that the favorites teams are eliminated and now it's a chance for a team that never won a major before can win now
2022-11-12 22:34
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#13
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Estonia simondoggo
+1 so true. Finally not a boring major with navi/faze
2022-11-12 22:35
7 replies
ah yes that cologne final was boring af
2022-11-12 22:36
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#22
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Brazil galaxysz
+1
2022-11-12 22:38
#23
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Estonia simondoggo
it was just boring because it was the same teams coming to play at finals. Everyone knew who would be at the major final. This is interesting because the top teams are out
2022-11-12 22:39
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not interesting/expected =/= boring IMO
2022-11-12 22:41
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#51
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Estonia simondoggo
I guess that’s subjective
2022-11-13 01:43
You are a type of guy who watch europa conference League instead of UCL
2022-11-12 22:40
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#30
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Estonia simondoggo
diversity is cool
2022-11-12 22:40
Yeah, it's always cool to see an underdog or a new team win a major. I hope Furia wins it now.
2022-11-12 22:39
+1 but that's literally called a fluke
2022-11-12 22:50
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#39
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Brazil galaxysz
fluke means like lucky? i don't understand
2022-11-12 22:53
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1 time luck
2022-11-12 23:33
I agree it kinda ruins it for a lot of people for the big teams to be defeated so quickly since they have the biggest amount of fans, but at the same time it will be an incredible experience for people that cheer for underdogs and especially for the home crowd if they see their home team win. Ultimately it is just like any major, where people that root for eliminated teams feeling let down. To better judge the quality of a major we need to look for what it did better or worse than the average major, for example the crowd's energy in this one is just insane, but at the same time it is too biased. I hope this major inspires fans all over the world to cheer for their teams as much as we do to ours, so whenever we get the chance to witness a less biased crowd with the same energy, we will be witnessing true sports energy in eSports.
2022-11-12 22:49
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+1 great take on the situation. Crowd is great but also has some downsides, overall very enjoyable tournament imo
2022-11-12 23:03
#52
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Brazil bielkk
I disagree, the best teams are in the playoffs yes, you get confused why famous players are not.
2022-11-13 01:49
Absolutely not the best. Even Berlin was x10better than this.
2022-11-12 22:37
nah
2022-11-12 23:02
Empty arena for Semis. L
2022-11-12 23:36
Fluke major, Vitality, Faze and Liquid top 3 this is the real Fluke ! HLTV ranking is a Joke.
2022-11-12 22:30
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Give Liquid Furia's opponents they are still in the tournament lol, Only respectable win so far was Navi
2022-11-12 22:49
dont think so, i think winning home major would overpower that
2022-11-12 22:31
#7
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Russia Vitaly59820
Boston was a big fluke, Krakow wasn’t.
2022-11-12 22:31
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#9
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Canada Jraptorr
Lmao, beating Faze in grand finals > beating immortals in grand finals.... sorry Russians
2022-11-12 22:32
2 replies
Destroying everyone >>> barely getting to the playoffs and winning chokers.
2022-11-12 22:34
1 reply
Lmao sorry, it's just facts.
2022-11-12 22:40
#32
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Brazil bruno_
fluke? if furia wins, they eliminated NAVI, HEROIC and OUTSIDERS. berlin 2019 astralis won playing against LIQUID, NRG and AVANGAR LOL
2022-11-12 22:42
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Yeah, but Astralis was #1 ranked team in the world and overwhelming favourite.
2022-11-12 22:47
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#45
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Brazil bruno_
And won a major playing against t2 and t3 teams
2022-11-12 23:02
#42
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Brazil Ties4
+1 exactly
2022-11-12 22:54
Yes
2022-11-12 22:29
#12
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Brazil renanand02
whatever. winning a major is winning a major.
2022-11-12 22:35
#14
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Brazil Nicolito
NA Crowd did the same on Columbus and still loses, if FURIA wins surely crowd cheering for them helps, but their merit if that happens. They are humans too, they trained very hard for this, specially to play the major in their country.
2022-11-12 22:35
1 reply
+1
2022-11-12 22:37
They won't heroic take it easy 2-0
2022-11-12 22:36
1 reply
2-1 heroic
2022-11-12 22:55
Nop
2022-11-12 22:36
Yes Especially if they after that go another 3 years without winning anything
2022-11-12 22:38
yes
2022-11-12 22:39
#25
apEX | 
Germany Philko
yes, they have to proof their skill outside of BR or with soundproof playerboxes :)
2022-11-12 22:39
Yes it will be always viewed as “crowd buff Major win”. At the same time, history is history and result doesn't lie. Once you win Major you are legend no matter what
2022-11-12 22:39
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#35
apEX | 
Germany Philko
First of all, you are a "one hit wonder". For a "legend" you need A LOT more to archive, than "just" a major win with the crowd. And thats the sad part about it. ESL could have prevent all BR teams of this, with a sound proof stage etc.
2022-11-12 22:49
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That's actually true but look at Hobbit, Adren, Dosia. How people view them. They won one major and apart from that nothing and still will be considered as kind of “legends”. Not to a s1mple level but still once you win major you are a “major winner” forever and no one can take that. Even if you win everything else and not get a major it's not the same.
2022-11-12 23:00
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#48
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Germany Philko
Dosia is a "legend" for the community, but not for his impressive gameplay, buit for his personality over the years. Hobbit aswell, but in addition to that he had build a new squad with newcommers, after his win and still has success. Adren, i dont know. I dont see his as a legend tbh. When i think about furia, the first thing that comes in my mind is a nice to watch and agressive playstyle but not very successfull after a 1/4 finale in any event. So yeah, i hope they cant get this title, because they play nice cs which i enjoy to watch. But still, its a big big advantage with this crowd and will always have a bad taste.
2022-11-12 23:04
#40
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Brazil hugoooo
30 or 40 spoiled nerds that barely get out of their own room will say yes for sure... but every pro player and team will respect it like any other major, and that's what matters.
2022-11-12 22:53
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