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India _anarchy_ 
Do you guys genuinely believe Outsiders or Heroic can dominate the scene after winning the major? I mean, don't get me wrong, respect to the two for being so good in this major, but this will be remembered as a bigger fluke than Gambit major win and C9 Boston win if tonight's winner can't win the next 1-2 tournies or make final runs.
2022-11-13 06:10
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#1
s1mple | 
India tkrsh
Yes
2022-11-13 06:10
Dude this major is Krakow 2017 all over again
2022-11-13 06:11
No both teams will be lower top10 teams at best
2022-11-13 06:11
#5
NAF | 
Canada Bak2BED
No but I believe they can still be competitive afterwards
2022-11-13 06:12
i dont think its a fluke, i think the top teams just heavily underperformed. this will for sure be remembered as the most random major though
2022-11-13 06:17
#7
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Yugoslavia kingcys
NaVi would’ve smacked Outsiders 2-1 in finals had the crowd not been a factor. Of course it’s a fluke and they won’t win another event this year. (Not blast)
2022-11-13 06:19
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#12
NAF | 
Canada Bak2BED
Always new excuses with botus botcere. War, travel, stand in, crowd, jet lag, toxic fans. Why is the entire universe so hell bent on making Navi lose? And why do none of these issues appear to other CIS teams?
2022-11-13 06:24
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#14
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Yugoslavia kingcys
You can’t be serious, this is because the other teams (assume you mean Outsiders) never had to face against Furia. And the start of the war did affect Outsiders and Cloud9, they just were able to recover and keep a good roster. And if your so moronic to suggest that the crowd had no affect in the NaVi vs Furia game I suggest you to rewatch a POV of any of the Furia players. And it’s pathetic for you to talk about excuses when Liquid haven’t been good since 2019
2022-11-13 06:28
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#17
NAF | 
Canada Bak2BED
At least our team doesn’t use excuses when they lose, they just accept that they lost to a better team
2022-11-13 06:33
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#24
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Yugoslavia kingcys
implying that Furia is a better team than NaVi completely invalidates your opinion. In a controlled environment, Furia will never win a bo3 against NaVi in current form.
2022-11-13 07:06
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lol ur still on ultra copium after major Furia > NaVi deal with it
2022-12-09 06:31
Wtf are you talkingabout... navi lose to a fucking nip... ofc they can lose to furia
2022-12-09 06:59
Outsiders wanted to play against furia and considering that a shit team as heroic who probably is wobbling when they see the crowd. It would have zero effect against outsiders.
2022-12-09 06:24
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#48
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Yugoslavia kingcys
NaVi nearly always has the support of the crowd when home teams are not present. You think Heroic just might be more acclimated to the climate of the arena compared to NaVi? Also, it’s been weeks
2022-12-09 06:38
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Outsiders have more balls than NaVi /closed
2022-12-09 08:54
Dominate prob not, but Heroic most time is a top 5 team in my vision because their game play is more intact and various depends on mid-calling. Outsider needs more time to prove itself.
2022-11-13 06:18
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+1
2022-11-13 06:43
just check the teams outsiders matched against in challengers&legends, you'll see why they are in the final
2022-11-13 06:23
Dominate? No. Deliver problems to others top 10 teams? Yes
2022-11-13 06:24
No. We want to see next tournaments
2022-11-13 06:31
Heroic with their level of teamwork and player quality were bound to win a tourney sooner or later, I don't think they'll dominate if they win this. But the thing about them crumbling against a crowd being disproven now, so their mental will definitely be better against the navis and the faze clans of the world in coming tourneys
2022-11-13 06:42
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Home crowd
2022-12-09 06:25
No way either team dominates. But Cadian winning a major would be such a feel good story. Go my boy!
2022-11-13 06:47
1 reply
+1
2022-11-13 06:49
#25
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
My Basketball coach once said this to us after we lost to a weaker team and someone questioned him the same "will they even reach finals. It should have been us." To quote him, 'The strong don't win. The winners are the strong ones.' Just as much as weakness of teams like FaZe NIP Vitality G2 C9 played in Outsiders and Heroic making to finals. It is also about Outsiders and Heroic coming out strong in all their match ups. They made it to finals because they were the stronger ones today and I think that should be respected regardless whether they go on establishing their dominance.
2022-11-13 07:11
4 replies
+1 well said
2022-11-13 07:20
1 reply
#39
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Thanks man.
2022-11-13 08:49
"Boner-esque" Passage
2022-11-13 07:46
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#38
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Awwww shucks
2022-11-13 08:49
#26
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Australia rationale
Both teams are extremely solid, they are not flukes like the likes of Gambit or C9. Dominate? Unlikely. Win more tournaments here and there? Very likely. Speaking of domination, top 5 teams for this Major are out. The scene is the most competitive it's ever been. No one can dominate any more, except Outsiders. Jame has got a new meta.
2022-11-13 07:16
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#32
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United States cybonics
Both Heroic and Outsiders have been dedicated to their styles for so long it's surreal to see them in a Major final after all the tribulations. Nothing but respect to both of them.
2022-11-13 07:25
c9 were top 5 before they won. only super bad matchup was faze for them.
2022-11-13 17:30
i don't think any team will dominate in the near future, it's really like six or so teams who all could win anything
2022-11-13 07:18
outsiders and heroic always been good teams
2022-11-13 07:19
#30
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United States j3tta
Hey, fan of both cadian and jame because i like the awp/igl combo. cadian's team is pretty much top 8 when you look at year-long performance. blast showdown win, pinnacle lan+online event wins, consistent playoffs in EPLs/antwerp, deep run at katowice, and obviously thiks major. teams like faze, navi, vitality, liquid, c9, maybe g2 are also top 8-ish. maybe you can call outsiders top 10, not great in big events but did well in 3 esl challenger LANs and the major. i think they stay top 12, but they don't have any more chances to prove themselves this year unless they win major and BLAST allow them in world final.
2022-11-13 07:22
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#34
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United States cybonics
Honestly, the Outsider's squad looks super comfortable playing together. Having that unison makes them really dangerous and Fame has stepped up big time. Hearing players describe what it's to play against Outsiders made me a fan.
2022-11-13 07:28
2 replies
Do you have any sources for players talking about what it’s like to play against outsiders Would be an interesting watch/read
2022-11-13 07:32
1 reply
+1
2022-12-09 09:01
#31
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Serbia DjapeZ
Heroic is top5 team for a long time and Outsiders are really good this major and if they keep up with this form they could achieve something more but it will be tough
2022-11-13 07:23
who cares bruv major victory is a major victory
2022-11-13 07:24
Flukes don't exist, fluke is your mind which supports one thing today and jumps on to the next tomorrow. If no tech issues or cheating involved, all victories are deserved. Even if the victor will be placing last places all the following tourneys
2022-11-13 07:45
#41
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Russia super_rat
so far so good, Blast World finals will show us (although i want G2 to win)
2022-12-09 03:13
neither will dominate but they will continue to be very good
2022-12-09 03:21
1 reply
+1
2022-12-09 03:23
Faze and Navi will be remembered as Fluke, VP main core was in major finals before and likely will again
2022-12-09 06:55
jamenunderrated heroic cheats undetected
2022-12-09 08:57
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