Just don't host a fanfest simultaneously and we good 😎👍
Honestly the main problem is brazil isn't surrounded by other Cs involved countries.
I mean the community in Belgium isn't that big either but we had people from the countries around who all came to support the team they loved.
Also since there is no real Belgian team we supported different teams at the major in Antwerp.
Finally a good thread about this topic.
Agree with everything. Also, inside the arena ESL fucked up with blind spots and things like that.
It might help to explain the empty seats with non brazilians teams, after all makes no sense to sit there not watching the game with other things to do outside
Not to mention that the arena had a lot of blindspot, causing many empty seats and people preferring to stand at the bottom
it's a possibility they chose the wrong arena but not about the size itself, the bigscreens and maybe the stage were very poorly planned, the arena had some corners with no visibility + others blind spots
One "problem" is that CS has becoming really popular in the last years. If was not so hype, only hardcore fans would show up. But the tickets were sold pretty fast, lots of people couldn't buy, I think many casual fans bought just for the hype.
actually br fans care about heroic and oustiders, idk what happened in this final
cadian is largely respected by br community
jame is our good villain
The fact that the games were during working hours and the final was on the day of the annual exam to enter a college may have also affected the number of people in the crowd.
I saw a lot of people trying to sell their tickets because they couldn't make it on the day.
the fanfest should never happened during games it doesnt make sense
thats a good and reasonable take on the rio major. I like it
Brazil should have one big event in year for sure in smaller Arena without outside arena presence, but for Major I hope not soon again.
And I must say that organizing a fan fest at the same time is a bad idea! ESL needs to learn from this mistake.
The only thing i have to say here is-every match was sold out and the fans were just outside. Why did ESL have to make this possible and why can those fans not just be inside and make this actually better than Antwerp
Best take so far on the website regarding the major. Actually has some nuance and isn't Brazil good or brazil bad. Yes there was some stuff left to be desired from this major, but no this was not the absolute worst major in history.
Brazilian Perspective: I understand all of your comments, but specifically about overly nationalistic, some of the things in Brazil are overestimated as a way to try to achieve a status we don't have. Of course, we are good in many things - but our country isn't that good in many perspectives about things like politics, education, and other basic stuff, so they pressure and overestimate things like CSGO and especially Brazilians. The journey to glory, like we had with SK/LG, isn't easy and depends on this, differently from Europe and NA Teams for example.
+1 I've watched all the finals (and most if not all the games of the tournaments) of tier 1 tournaments since 2020 even if my fav team was eliminated, cuz I like watching cs. This final wasn't anything special if you weren't a fan of those teams. And it's quite sad that more than half of the community didn't care about it but I understand why
good and reasonable take
I agree with you, my friend
it's so obvious that csgo is a dead game. Rio major was hyped af and the same thing will happen with BLAST Paris. When people see Blast Paris with a crowd more silent and empty than Rio major, all these trolls will keep silent and realize how dead is this game. The problem wasn't Brazil, the problem won't Paris, the problem is volvo
The 1 hour delay also didn't help keep the viewers watching i'm sure, my friend was 1 1/2 hours late to start watching and he still got to watch half of first map
the blind spots in the arena fucked my neck, i dont think ill be sitting straight for the next week
4 - It was few people that spat at the players, and be sure of this, there's no Brazilian that enjoy and approve it, in or outside de Arena, we think it's unpolite and miseducation.
I think you're right, apart from some fans who crossed the line and esl has to punish them, most of the problems were due to the bad structure and administration that esl was willing to do, not having soundproof booths in an arena round was a bad idea, and we didn't start watching cs today, maybe some don't remember because of the pandemic but we all know that crowd cheating has always existed.
From what I heard the second floor was packed every match because the seats were better but the cameras couldn’t get a good view of it since it was dark
when is the next book coming out?
my take is
- no gaules, get BiDa or just do English casting ffs they can understand whats going on
- no fanfest with match streams happening at the same time as the event
- and I agree about the bias thing, it's a culture thing that I think has to change but it's reflected on every sport (UFC event ads in brazilian TV, for instance, only talk about the brazilian fighters even if they suck and theres a much better fight happening)
1. Fans wanted more tickets because of ESL ticket website crashed and the "sold out" warning wasn't really sold out, a lot of people did the check up and didn't bought the ticket + a lot of bots for scalpers ruined everything. If the website was better, no one would pressure ESL for a bigger arena.
2/3. Right, but as I said here before, there's a huge cultural difference between how Brazilians treat CSGO, they don't see it as a video game competition like EU/NAfrogs, they see it as an real sport. You don't see a Tottenham fan going to an Arsenal x Chelsea game and the Tottenham fans are not "less fans of soccer", and that's how most Brazilians see it.
4. You can't condemn the whole country for an isolated case, we don't even know if it was a Brazilian player since there was a lot argentines there too.
I will go to next Brazilian major which will prob happen in 2024 and I will get a huge poster exposing a certain mod here, everyone will see it.
there was many blindspots on arena. Also, in brazil money, its very expensive to travel trough brazil. Most of times its the same amount of money to travel on brazil or travel to EU/NA. So, most of us was never been in rio before, which made more attractive to tourist the town than watch some mouz x fnatic. We had NATIONAL EXAM aswell on sunday (final). But i can agree a little with you guys, could be better if there wasn't a fanfest. Actually, they could have fanfest but they should keep gaules at arena, not on fanfest. People paid more on arena tickets than fanfest, they had to have some advantage and they didn't. There was no beer, there was no gaules, it was hard to stay on arena at first days.
i thought the Rio crowd was pretty awesome for the most part. i think event/arena/rule problems ruined it the most
Elisa crowd was better :)
finally someone who understands
Gosh, you know you posted this on hltv right? You're supposed to be spreading hate based on no evidence
The main problem is that they didn’t show up for the event. Full stop. There were more people at the semi-final than the final
It's always easy to tell who are filled with white guilt like OP because they will always play into Brazil victim complex.
Nice view about the event
My view as someone that went to the event:
- 2 and 3 = TRUE Some of my friends bought tickets to Sunday and decided to do something else bcs they were sad that Furia lost and Heroic/Outsiders are not hyped teams
- 1 = HALF TRUE The event was sold out? Yes, but it's weird. I only bought my tickets to the champions stage on thursday bcs ESL sold some extras tickets. And the seats close to the player were always empty. On the other hand, the upper seats were full. It doesn't make sense, as it was sold out. I don't know why it happened, but ESL has to figure it out