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Twistzz
Liminha | 
Brazil williamhsk1 
The bestest and greatest North American to have ever touched in CSGO?
2022-11-23 11:20
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#1
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Denmark slacking
obviously, most talented and most achieved
2022-11-23 11:20
11 replies
still not even top 20 of all time
2022-11-23 11:37
#68
NAF | 
United States Grimly
me, a based tarik enjoyer reminiscing about January 28 2018
2022-11-23 11:54
stew #1 because he has the most famous clip by far of any NA player.
2022-11-23 12:36
7 replies
#78
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Denmark slacking
the one he got knocked out in school?
2022-11-23 12:38
4 replies
what?
2022-11-23 12:39
2 replies
#118
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Brazil LMZILLA
newbies
2022-11-23 16:40
1 reply
Shows that's not even close to as well known as stewbox.
2022-11-23 23:15
iykyk
2022-11-23 21:23
Stewie said sit the fuck down?
2022-11-23 16:36
1 reply
#121
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North America hi_mens))
That clip doesn't even remotely come close to the inferno 1v3
2022-11-23 21:21
#91
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Austria byewire
most talented i dont think so lil bro.
2022-11-23 14:29
mad elige and stewie fans incoming
2022-11-23 11:21
17 replies
+1
2022-11-23 11:40
9 replies
All time skill Elige All time achievement Twistzz On the same team Elige was better too. In 2022 Elige has better stats as well even though the team didn’t win as much and he is entrying. Sorry I had to speak facts. HLTV is a stats site
2022-11-23 11:52
8 replies
+1
2022-11-23 14:26
-1 Better stats don't man shit if your team can't win..
2022-11-23 14:28
on the same team elige had better roles too. skill wise it's pretty close. imo raw aim - twistzz>elige but spray control elige>twistzz i'd pick twistzz over elige tho coz he can also be 2ndary awper
2022-11-23 14:46
Elige farmed brasil for 1.5 rating per match, Twistzz played the best teams and won a major. Elige won't be top 20, especially after sucking when it matters most.
2022-11-23 15:01
3 replies
+1
2022-11-23 16:31
Twistzz is legit the backbone to the most successful team of 2022.
2022-11-23 16:39
1 reply
Imagine thinking anyone but karrigan is the backbone of faze.
2022-11-23 23:17
"In 2022 Elige has better stats as well even though the team didn’t win as much and he is entrying." "Sorry I had to speak facts. HLTV is a stats site" As the resident NA Number's Guy, it is my duty to point out inaccuracies whenever I come across them. This is coming from an entirely unbiased perspective, and I will only point out the real and true facts at hand. Team Liquid T-Side Opening Kill Statistics at ESL Pro League Season 16 (25 maps played): YEKINDAR: 42.7% of team's attempts with a 42.5% success rate (1.16 rating) nitr0: 19.0% of team's attempts with 26.2% success rate (0.68 rating) EliGE: 18.4% of team's attempts with 33.3% success rate (0.77 rating) oSee: 10.2% of team's attempts with 51.4% success rate (0.85 rating) NAF: 9.6% of team's attempts with 57.6% success rate (0.88 rating) hltv.org/stats/players/openingkills?star.. In comparison, Twistzz had 19.4% of his team's attempts with a 39.0% success rate (0.85 rating) -- NA Number's Guy
2022-11-23 22:06
stewie2k > tw0stzz any day Also NA > EU, obvious cuz twistzz is carrying the fuck out of faze all the time. CIS and NA are the only good regions rest t2
2022-11-23 11:47
6 replies
+1
2022-11-23 11:48
#57
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Spain capta1n
I can respect you honoring your name but still its a braindead take
2022-11-23 11:48
2 replies
hahahah ikr
2022-11-23 11:48
:D
2022-11-23 11:51
how can you possibly type that with a straight face. twistzz has every achievement bot2k has + more. also way better stats. bot2k could barely perform above nitr0 on liquid
2022-11-23 12:02
tw0stzz? are u forgetting what happened this year or what
2022-11-23 16:33
#3
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Pakistan LoOuU2
NAF >
2022-11-23 11:21
1 reply
+1
2022-11-23 11:47
#4
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Serbia eliiiiii_
EliGE clear individually, and pretty close in terms of achievements
2022-11-23 11:21
19 replies
0/8
2022-11-23 11:22
8 replies
7 replies
bro just quoted thorin LUL
2022-11-23 11:24
3 replies
#20
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Serbia eliiiiii_
you can go look the stats up yourself, I quoted him because he already took all the screenshots
2022-11-23 11:24
2 replies
elige 0 majors /closed
2022-11-23 11:27
idk if im retarded but to me it looks like twistzz has better stats an elige on majors
2022-11-23 16:29
#32
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Thing about Thorin is... He will use the same argument inversely to defend a player he likes. 'Its not about the stats and about the trophy's' but always remember pick up any Sports or eSports GOATs are players with wins, stats and Trophies. Roger Federer, Raphael Nadal, Michael Jordan, Lebron James, Ronaldo, Messi.
2022-11-23 11:31
2 replies
Defend player you like = W = based
2022-11-23 11:58
1 reply
#84
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Shouldn't be a hypocrite while doing so. Other than that. Yes, I agree.
2022-11-23 14:22
#17
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Thailand new!
nah twistzz's aim >>> elige's aim and no its not "pretty close in terms of achievements"
2022-11-23 11:24
9 replies
#19
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Serbia eliiiiii_
k0nfig's aim > electronic's aim as well there's more to the game than your muscle memory EliGE is consistently the better player and was consistently the best rifler in NA, one of the best in the world and the best player in Liquid during their run that also included Twistzz
2022-11-23 11:25
8 replies
#23
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Thailand new!
delusional
2022-11-23 11:25
7 replies
#25
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Serbia eliiiiii_
how is it delusional, the stats speak for themselves Twistzz was not in this convo until he joined FaZe where he wasn't the best player for one second, with exception to two maps of the Cologne Grand Final
2022-11-23 11:26
6 replies
twistzz absolutely was in this convo before faze. was always between naf elige and twistzz
2022-11-23 11:34
5 replies
#67
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World NukestrikE
yet both naf and elige were always above him in liquid performence wise in numbers and in hltv ranking as well
2022-11-23 11:54
4 replies
they all have their own strengths, 3 very different players
2022-11-23 11:55
3 replies
#70
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World NukestrikE
thats true. im not saying that twistzz is bad or anything like that. he is imo the most mechanicaly skilled na player BUT in term of actual performance on the server overall he definitely wasnt in that discussion...
2022-11-23 11:56
2 replies
he was in that discussion, it wasn't that long ago. tons of people in the CS community included twistzz in the best NA player discussion with naf and elige
2022-11-23 11:57
1 reply
#74
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World NukestrikE
ofc that his fan did...they also claimed that he deserved top10 in 2018 and even top5 in 2019 which was ridiculous. he is in that discussion nowadays, no doubt about that but he definitely wasnt up there with elige and naf in liquid. those 2 were just above him. facts over feelings...
2022-11-23 11:59
shroud owns him
2022-11-23 11:22
9 replies
adderall enjoyer?
2022-11-23 11:22
#10
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Europe MaHoTei
shroud overhyped onliner did absolutely nothing on lans
2022-11-23 11:23
5 replies
shroud 10000000 reddit clips. Twistzz how many?
2022-11-23 11:23
4 replies
Twistzz 1 major shrood how many?
2022-11-23 11:26
2 replies
impossible to win majors while you have 4 mid teammates
2022-11-23 11:30
1 reply
Shroud most mid among them
2022-11-23 11:31
#81
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Europe MaHoTei
CLIPS dont represent how good you are as a player hltv.org/stats/players/8349/shroud?match.. this your clip master on majors and on big events hltv.org/stats/players/8349/shroud?match..
2022-11-23 13:11
#11
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
Yes, In choking and winning one whole trophy.
2022-11-23 11:23
Who?
2022-11-23 14:28
na goat by far
2022-11-23 11:22
NA goat all time
2022-11-23 11:23
Obviously
2022-11-23 11:23
#14
Xyp9x | 
India NinX
NA GOAT indeed. using 100% brain vs OG.
2022-11-23 11:23
Skadoodle
2022-11-23 11:24
#21
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
I dont think there is an argument for no.1 anymore Twistzz Elige/Stewie/Naf 2-4th below that ska/tarik/hiko/auti/shroud and after that idk
2022-11-23 11:25
22 replies
shroud rofl
2022-11-23 11:28
6 replies
one of the best aimers in CS history, do you disagree?
2022-11-23 11:31
2 replies
ofc not, his aim is insane but he wasnt nearly as good as he couldve been when you consider how good he was in terms of mechanics.
2022-11-23 11:40
1 reply
true, I truly think if he played a couple more years he would've been a far more impressive player. his pro career wasn't very long
2022-11-23 11:41
#36
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Okay who do you place 9th over shroud? I can think of 2 players that have decent arguments and I already left them out for a reason GL
2022-11-23 11:37
2 replies
RUSH
2022-11-23 11:39
1 reply
#49
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
RUSH was 1 of the 2. Very very consistent player, won a major. But on optic he didnt do that well unfourtnately. and post c9 he didnt do much. I place RUSH 10th on my top10 list though. Where I give the edge to shroud is just the raw technical aim he had, he also transistioned into the support role very well. if you want to place rush above shroud I wouldnt really argue that hard
2022-11-23 11:44
stewies the most overrated NA player of all time. not even top 10 NA player
2022-11-23 11:32
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#37
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
I only listed 9, some I left out RUSH, freak, n0thing, seangares, daps, steel, swag, jdm, nitr0 but stewie has achivements, was great when he first entered the scene under c9 than switched to entry for liquid so his ratings went down. Major winner + Grand slam + top3 NA players in 2017-2018
2022-11-23 11:38
9 replies
stewie being dogshit during his entire tenure in liquid had nothing to do with his role. he simply couldn't keep up with the meta and has a massive ego
2022-11-23 11:39
8 replies
#46
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
lmao what? he wasnt even that bad imgur.com/a/h49AVBf hltv.org/stats/players/8797/stewie2k?sta.. hltv.org/stats/players/8797/stewie2k?sta.. Considering he was an entry+Anchor these are far from bad stats. his "massive ego" wasnt even a problem until EG
2022-11-23 11:42
7 replies
'lmao what? he wasnt even that bad' proceeds to link his dogshit stats. guys a total bot and cost liquid like 3 grand finals single handedly. his massive ego was on full display on liquid. why do you think none of the liquid players talk to him after years of playing on the same team
2022-11-23 11:44
6 replies
#52
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
1.03 = dogshit as entry+anchor? okay not worth the argument you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
2022-11-23 11:46
5 replies
you're cherry picking stats, his stats on liquid were terrible and if you watched them play which you clearly didn't he was absolutely clueless and had the aim of a T2 player sneaky edit: 1.03 is awful for a non IGL.
2022-11-23 11:48
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#60
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
I did watch them play, im quoting stats because its hard to argue about specifc games from 3+ years ago. Guy has been hated 24/7 since he entered the scene. In liquid he was fine, he wasnt great wasnt amazing but he didnt need to be. Elige, Twistzz, NAF were the superstar core. His job wasnt to get crazy multi-kills. He was great for his role. Go in try and get 1 then die, or on CT sit there get 1 or 2 then die.
2022-11-23 11:50
3 replies
he's hated for a reason, cocky player who couldn't back it up in the server. whiny little bitch on twitter, reports from former teammates/staff that he's a toxic difficult player to work with, exposed with mid round toxicity towards IGL (fallen) in blast replay. guy is not respected by true fans of CS or pros it seems like
2022-11-23 11:52
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#65
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Yeah but idc if the guy is an asshole or not. Im talking purely about his in the sever performance and achievements. Im not trying to defend his character I will also say OJ Simpson was a great player. And he did way worse things than stewie lol
2022-11-23 11:54
1 reply
What achievements? Shroud done nothing but embarrass his teammate's. OJ was a great athlete. Shroud was not a great player. Bad comparison.
2022-11-23 16:18
Shroud isn't even top 50 NA player.
2022-11-23 14:29
3 replies
#101
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
Youre such a new viewer its painful
2022-11-23 14:43
2 replies
Lolwot... Been on hltv since 2001. Playing/watching CSGO before then.
2022-11-23 16:16
1 reply
#109
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Canada MiLkBaGzz
hltv didnt exist in 2001
2022-11-23 16:32
carrying faze as per usual
2022-11-23 11:24
Yes he is! Let‘s goooo Twistzz!
2022-11-23 11:26
Yes 100% , and I also think EliGE can unleash his beast if he plays with a great EU team like Twistzz
2022-11-23 11:34
mechanicly he is the best player in the world i think, his movement and aim is sick
2022-11-23 11:36
2 replies
his skill ceiling is insane. one of the best in terms of mechanics. only player i would put above him is niko.
2022-11-23 11:44
i played with him a few times on exec servers, hes unplayable
2022-11-23 13:12
Ropz on the other hand... Wtf happened to him? Losing almost every duel (even against pistols lol)
2022-11-23 11:41
All time skill is Elige and then NAF All time achievement is Stewie2k because he does it on all NA teams and then Twistzz
2022-11-23 11:50
12 replies
2022-11-23 11:54
2022-11-23 11:59
twistzz has everything bot2k has and more. major win, grand slam + more tournament wins than bot2k. also we all know bot2k is one of the most overrated players in CS history
2022-11-23 12:01
2 replies
#100
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Slovakia Razertw1
That whole C9 squad is the most overrated thing in CS history. Just think about the fact that a random bot like skadoodle has a major and niko, guardian, elige etc don't.
2022-11-23 14:37
1 reply
Nikos dogshit brother. When are people gonna realize that
2022-11-23 21:19
NAF is brutally overrated
2022-11-23 16:34
6 replies
You are brutally delusional. NAF was literally labelled by HLTV write up as the most consistent player in T1. Maybe you’re coping because he always shits on danish teams? img-cdn.hltv.org/gallerypicture/UDWOZ0hP..
2022-11-23 21:18
5 replies
Don't know in what world degster isn't t1, but besides the fact, that really doesn't make a difference. NAF is slightly more consistant, yes, but Twistzz consistancy is far better than NAFs. Simply because Xyp9x is consistant doesn't make him better than the like of a more inconsistant counterpart.
2022-11-23 21:23
2 replies
I was not putting down Twistzz I was calling out this Dane for calling NAF overrated because he’s always shitting on Danes.
2022-11-23 21:24
1 reply
Generally speaking, NAF is heavily underrated, but the first comment definantly overrates NAF regardless. Can see where you're coming from tho
2022-11-23 21:26
I don't care about his mickey mouse "inconsistency rating" he doesn't have a very high ceiling, he is an above-average player but people hype him up like he is the next coming of Jesus. He's not even the best player on his team, he is actually far from it.
2022-11-23 22:05
1 reply
People don’t hype him up like he’s the second coming of Jesus. He is a reliable site anchor who pulls out clutches more than your ‘clutch minister’. He is a fan favorite because of his calm demeanor and embracing of the sloth meme. You’re mistaking popularity and likability with perceived rating
2022-11-23 22:50
i think you forgot about elige lol
2022-11-23 12:56
1 reply
EliGE's ceiling is higher but twistzz is more consistent.
2022-11-23 22:11
#85
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Turkey c0ir
tarik goat
2022-11-23 14:23
4 replies
He went ham on a major and never was relevant again tho
2022-11-23 14:25
3 replies
#93
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Turkey c0ir
ye but 2018 boston was goat major also
2022-11-23 14:30
2 replies
almost 5 years ago tho
2022-11-23 14:32
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#97
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Turkey c0ir
yeah, good days:( 2018 is prime of the cs history imo
2022-11-23 14:33
Faze would dominate of they get rid of karrgan
2022-11-23 14:29
3 replies
#94
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Slovakia Razertw1
dominate de_airport…They need big brain Carrygun
2022-11-23 14:32
#99
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Estonia Kukkel
Carrygun best IGL in the world.
2022-11-23 14:36
Who would they get instead?
2022-11-23 16:35
One of the best riflers in the game right now by far.
2022-11-23 14:33
#98
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Estonia Kukkel
Braxton "swag" Pierce and then it's Twistzz
2022-11-23 14:35
most talented and most decorated so yes
2022-11-23 15:28
I think Elige at twistzz age probably slightly better but twistzz will probably be better when he is elige age
2022-11-23 16:35
twistzz much better and made better decision for himself, elige will forever be on that choke environment 7 years, 7 months on the same team ffs youre not s1mple my man, gotta change airs
2022-11-23 16:40
Facts
2022-11-23 16:38
the cutest csgo pro, i want to erp with him over steam chat
2022-11-23 22:07
Best NA player ever no doubt
2022-11-23 22:08
LOL s1mple was and will always be the best NA had to offer next would obviously be Hiko, but he saw the red flags and warning signs and moved on to the superior game. /thread
2022-11-23 22:12
elige says hi
2022-11-23 22:12
#136
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Japan Legoshi
Tarik farms
2022-11-23 23:19
Tbh, elige twistzz stew naf are the indisputable top 4. And TL could've gotten karrigan to be their leader for 2019, which might’ve made them the best team of all time, considering all 4 of those players were playing amazing in the first half of 2019. You'd think surely karrigan does a better job than nitro as their leader, even if they lose nitro's A overpass awp.
2022-11-23 23:21
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