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Valve Tier List
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North America coL_fan_since_2013 
All Valve Games Tier List: S : Half-Life 2 / Portal 2 A : Half-Life / Portal / Left 4 Dead 2 / CS 1.6 B : DoTA / Left 4 Dead C : CS:Source / Dota 2 D : CS:GO F : Artifact If we include FacePunch source games published by valve, Garry's Mod and The Stanley Parable are A tier.
2022-11-25 07:32
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csgo too high
2022-11-25 07:33
1 reply
+1 Put Artifact in Z Tier and CS:GO in F Tier
2022-11-25 09:52
#2
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Russia shoras
What does original dota have to do with valve?
2022-11-25 07:43
2 replies
I just wanted to put it there to compare it to the 2nd one. It's not really a valve game
2022-11-25 07:47
1 reply
#90
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United States Phamous3k
It’s not a Valve game at all tbh.
2022-11-25 19:51
TF where?
2022-11-25 07:49
3 replies
B for sure
2022-11-25 07:52
1 reply
nah S+ for movement/game mechanics, community kinda meh atm.
2022-11-25 10:11
E tier
2022-11-25 17:34
half life alyx s tier
2022-11-25 07:52
4 replies
#17
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Brazil Maujubudo
+1
2022-11-25 08:37
+1
2022-11-25 08:41
#59
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
+1 GOAT game and custom content is great in that game
2022-11-25 15:10
#95
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Sweden 0sko
+1
2022-11-26 00:17
#7
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Poland woey
CS 1.6 too low
2022-11-25 07:53
Pretty edgy list that you copied from your early millenial brother
2022-11-25 08:04
6 replies
How is it edgy? I'm objectively right
2022-11-25 08:07
5 replies
I'm objectively right - lul
2022-11-25 08:40
2 of the most played games in steam should be in the s-tier. This list is merely a provocation if you consider the context of this forum. edgy Simple-mindedly and transparently trying to appear tough or 'cool', for the sake of being provocative and/or offensive.
2022-11-25 12:20
2 replies
#34
wrath | 
Denmark ay4ka
Cope Csgo is a dead game
2022-11-25 12:26
#60
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Sweden Rifile
+1 I wanted to say something similair but I couldn't say it as well as you. He is just doing it because he knows people are gonna be mad for him putting CSGO this low and not because it's actually the case.
2022-11-25 15:16
objectively delusional
2022-11-25 17:34
Idk why CSGO is so low but dota gotta be lower as well everything else yes
2022-11-25 08:10
2 replies
#35
wrath | 
Denmark ay4ka
Common flag L
2022-11-25 12:26
1 reply
Flag checks out
2022-11-25 17:52
#11
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Nepal Ekadeshcs
Portal is S Tier
2022-11-25 08:19
Putting portal in A is a crime in itself, should be S
2022-11-25 08:20
#13
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Georgia Megobari
1.6 S tier
2022-11-25 08:21
Also ballsy take to say that l4d2 > l4d1, fat disagree on that one :p
2022-11-25 08:22
TSP>>>
2022-11-25 08:26
#16
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Italy alastt27
CS GO is the most famous game on steam, it's atleast A tier just for this.
2022-11-25 08:32
3 replies
Famous != good, Cardi B is a famous singer but it doesn't make her A tier. And for some time PUBG and Among Us were the most famous games. I'd put CS:GO higher too though, it's like B
2022-11-25 08:45
2 replies
#22
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Australia S_FAN
Among us is unironically an s tier party game
2022-11-25 08:53
1 reply
its a good game sadly ruined by its hilarious redditor fanbase
2022-11-25 09:20
#18
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Brazil Maujubudo
TF forgotten as always
2022-11-25 08:38
1 reply
sad really
2022-11-25 09:06
But dota 1 isnt developed by valve
2022-11-25 09:16
Where are Day of Defeat and DOD:S?
2022-11-25 09:33
Here's mine: S: CS 1.6 (Perfect shooter of my teenage years) A: CS: GO (Great game, also more viewer-friendly than 1.6, if it was "objective" list and not my personal, I would put it on top) B: The Stanley Parable (Smartly written and fun), CS: Source, Team Fortress (Pretty decent games, but not good enough to play instead of CS 1.6 or GO) C: DoTA, Garry's Mod, Left 4 Dead, Left 4 Dead 2 (Boring genres), Half-Life, Half-Life 2 (Puzzle elements) D: Artifact (Disaster, if they made it less complicated and more viewer-friendly, it would be at least tier B) F: Half Life: Alyx (VR), Portal, Portal 2 (Puzzle games)
2022-11-25 09:43
15 replies
#28
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Australia Sify
css always fun to play minigames with friends or bhop
2022-11-25 09:47
Why you hate puzzle so much man? and half-life/portal so low is low iq take. Those games have the best dialogue/writing in video game history. I highly doubt you finished Portal 1&2
2022-11-25 12:24
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More like why Portal fans are so aggressive to alternative opinions? Look at #41, it's awful, he implies that I'm dumb only because I don't like his favorite puzzle game. I even mentioned that it's just my personal list and I'm not trying to be objective here. Witcher 3 and RDR 2 are below average for me, so what, I should change my opinion only because it's not popular? I hate puzzle genre because I prefer to solve issues when they are solvable multiple ways and looking at big picture rather than finding the only way developer intended (in more wide sense: strategy over tactics). Why should I finish the game from my personal tier F? I played like 15 minutes of Portal 1 and didn't even started Portal 2. Such gameplay is just extremely boring for me.
2022-11-25 15:42
I was having a good day. Why did I have to open hltv?
2022-11-25 12:29
Valve puzzle games aren't even hard, why F tier
2022-11-25 12:32
1 reply
I just don't like puzzles, doesn't matter how hard they are and can I solve them or not. Stupid Skyrim puzzles that even a little kid will easily solve (so high difficulty is clearly not the problem) are still the worst part of it for me. This and famous "find where you need to go" puzzle, common in Half Life.
2022-11-25 15:49
#41
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Ukraine d3adLY
Perfect shooter, lmao Portal 2 is the best puzzle game, if you cant think then dont put it on F tier If you dont have VR dont put the best VR game on F tier Half_life2 C, lmao
2022-11-25 12:33
7 replies
Yes, perfect shooter without unnecessary elements. F tier is exactly where I should put puzzle games if I can't or don't want to think, don't you think? All of the VR games are tier F, because this technology is awful for someone with a motion sickness problem, like me. Maybe D, I just don't want to put it in the same tier as Artifact. Civilization series, for example, is great, what do you think about it? Not for smart people, because there is no puzzles, am I right?
2022-11-25 16:00
6 replies
#69
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Ukraine d3adLY
what is "unnecessary elements"? like skins? then it doesnt affect gameplay(at all) if you cant play in game cuz your health it doesnt mean its bad hf2 is one of the best games ever I like Civilization, its for smart people too, but its about strategy, and portal is about solving the"puzzles"
2022-11-25 16:34
5 replies
No, skins are not a problem, they doesn't affect gameplay indeed. Danger Zone would be problematic if it was a main mode, but it's not, so I'm fine with it too. I said about shooter genre in general: without puzzles, or vehicles, or building, or regenerative health etc but with sports and competitive environment. CS:GO is as good, I'm just not as young anymore to love it as much. I still put it in tier A so I don't know what you don't like here. It means I can't play it, so of course it's bad for me, it's literally unplayable. I know it's recognized that way, but from my experience I can't understand why, even extremely overrated Witcher 3 is less of a mystery for me. Puzzles, boring and way too serious plot, not enough shooting for shooter, the game not feels player-friendly in general. Even mediocre shooters of that time like Serious Sam or Medal of Honor were way more enjoyable for me. Very nice, it's the distinction between games I like and games I don't like. It's not always the case, corridor shooters are fine, but if I have to think I prefer to think in strategic way, not to solve the puzzles. I think you can't understand the difference between personal opinion and objective truth and getting triggered by my personal opinion for some reason.
2022-11-25 17:14
4 replies
#84
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Ukraine d3adLY
i dont play csgo cuz its boring nowdays, but still i wouldnt pick 1.6 over go, 1.6 has worse graphic(ofc), worse sprays, nades, movement, maps, csgo is literally better than 1.6 in all aspects but i got you, if you say witcher 3 is extremely overrated
2022-11-25 17:36
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Graphics ofc, nades maybe, but sprays, movement and maps were more enjoyable in 1.6 or maybe I just got too old to switch. Still nothing as fun as public 16 vs 16 Aztec 1.6 game. Well, you definitely can't call Witcher 3 underrated, because it's rated as one of the best games of all time, and since I actively hate the setting (all this magic and also Slavic stuff, when werewolfs are called volkolaks it's incredibly annoying), characters (especially Geralt, even ME's Shepard, another bad character, was not as annoying at how important and special he is) and didn't find combat very fun and enjoyable, yes, I can't rate it higher than 5/10 (graphics is great, and I can see they tried hard to deliver, just not for me). If I wanted to match expectations, I would just made a rating based on users scores/reviews, what's the point of such rating? I rate games based on my personal taste and experience. Same for the games I like, I don't care if the game is loved by others (i.e. New Vegas) or not that much (i.e. Outer Worlds), I like the game for what it is.
2022-11-25 19:21
2 replies
#88
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Ukraine d3adLY
i can agree only about old inferno, this is my favorite map since 1.6 okay, at least you proved your point, you just dont like it(witcher 3)
2022-11-25 19:28
1 reply
Oh, old inferno was pretty cool too. Yeah, same with Portal, I'm not saying it's a bad game no one should play, I just really dislike the genre. If someone will ask me for a puzzle game I would definitely recommend it.
2022-11-25 19:35
portal/portal2 best valve games ever mens
2022-11-25 12:52
SS = Team Fortress 2
2022-11-25 10:04
#37
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Czech Republic Evis1337
HL2 and portal2 are both worse than HL1. are you drunk? how cna you put that shit game above HL1 lol
2022-11-25 12:29
#38
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Ukraine d3adLY
CSGO>cs1.6
2022-11-25 12:29
14 replies
#39
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Czech Republic Evis1337
? lol
2022-11-25 12:32
13 replies
#42
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Poland 138|
144hz is cheating XD
2022-11-25 12:35
3 replies
#45
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Czech Republic Evis1337
144 fps is cheating. its not my fault youre not capable of understanding game physics lol
2022-11-25 12:40
2 replies
#47
Petra | 
Poland 138|
for the last time: explain why 144 is cheatink if the game allows you to do it without any 3rd party programs and commands are sv_cheats 0 workable
2022-11-25 12:42
1 reply
#49
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Czech Republic Evis1337
ok then read jwchong.com/hl/game.html#frame-rate youre welcome
2022-11-25 12:44
#43
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Ukraine d3adLY
much better sprays, nades, maps, movement and ofc graphics
2022-11-25 12:36
8 replies
#46
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Czech Republic Evis1337
movement is not better LMAO you have no idea wtf you talking about
2022-11-25 12:41
7 replies
#52
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Ukraine d3adLY
it is, + without double duck
2022-11-25 12:55
6 replies
#53
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Czech Republic Evis1337
ur fkn clueless. how many world records do you have in any movement game?
2022-11-25 12:55
5 replies
#54
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Ukraine d3adLY
xd, i doubt it even exists, so you want to say double duck was good part of cs?
2022-11-25 13:07
4 replies
#55
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Czech Republic Evis1337
u doubt what exists? doubleduck is a movement mechanic. why you cry that people begripping? :D cant hit head? you're not accurate while dding and there's no peeker advantage. skill issue then. you don't even know what doubleducking does and why it's important for goldsource movement
2022-11-25 14:18
3 replies
#56
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Ukraine d3adLY
i did good with double duck and could kill enemies, but its bad mechanic, its like astralis abused smokes in 2018(with nvidia) i doubt the movement world record exists, lmao, which game has this stat?
2022-11-25 14:58
2 replies
#62
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Czech Republic Evis1337
youre literally not making any sense
2022-11-25 15:20
1 reply
#63
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Ukraine d3adLY
why? tell me why 1.6 had better movement than go
2022-11-25 15:40
#44
Petra | 
Poland 138|
Ricochet mans? Team fortress 1/2? Also you included cs:s mostly was done by turtle rock studios. So should all half-lifes count as well into the list? cs 2d, cs:cz, cs:cz:ds, cs:online, cs:online2, cs:nexus zombi
2022-11-25 12:37
#48
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Pakistan LoOuU2
S: Half Life 1, 2, Ep1, Ep2, Alyx, Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead 2, Portal 2 , Counter Strike 1.6 A: CSGO, CS:CZ, Left 4 Dead, Portal (would be S tier if Portal 2 didnt exist) , DOTA 2, Day of Defeat Source B: TFC, DoD, CS:Source C: Half Life Source, Ricochet D: Artifact Note : only included the games that Valve developed themselves.
2022-11-25 12:43
tesla valve GOATED
2022-11-25 12:52
#57
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Netherlands Srednir
Where is tf2 and condition zero hahahha
2022-11-25 14:59
black mesa bonus track Tier +S
2022-11-25 15:07
l4d s tier /closed
2022-11-25 15:19
clown
2022-11-25 15:43
Alyx SS tier
2022-11-25 15:51
People and nostaligia (smh) I started playing 1.5 in 2001 and played a lot of 1.6 too. Csgo is better. Why dont all of you play 1.6 instead and make it a bigger game? Oh, I forgot, its just a popular opinion.
2022-11-25 17:09
1 reply
yeah, csgo is better than 1.6 on the comp side
2022-11-25 17:18
#73
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India _Nexius
csgo is not d tier cope harder
2022-11-25 17:23
valve are decent
2022-11-25 17:26
MOFO really forgot about Team Fortress 2? are you fucking serious?
2022-11-25 17:29
#77
NiKo | 
Japan Kiriji
SS tier: CS 1.6
2022-11-25 17:33
The only S tier game Valve has ever done was Portal 2.
2022-11-25 17:35
#91
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United States Phamous3k
Alien Swarm?!?
2022-11-25 19:51
Dota 2 is S tier as a game, but because community is so toxic its almost unplayable.
2022-11-26 00:10
S : Half-Life / Counter-Strike / Half-Life 2 / Portal 2 A : Portal / DotA 2 / CS:GO B : Left 4 Dead 2 / Half-Life: Alyx C : Left 4 Dead D : CS:Source F : Artifact 1.6 was not created by Valve, so it doesn't fit that well in the tier list
2022-11-26 00:14
S : Half-Life / Team Fortress 2 / Dota 2 / CS:GO A : Half-Life 2 / CS 1.6 / Portal B : Portal 2 / Left 4 Dead 2 / Half Life 2 Episodes C : Left 4 Dead D : Alien Swarm / CS:Source / Day of Defeat F : Artifact / Ricochet
2022-11-26 00:27
Portal S bro First game I completed and enjoyed
2022-11-26 00:29
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