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NAVI FANS COME !!!
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Aruba defoliant 
Not so easy to win matches in 2022 with high competition around, huh? :))) You still think that navi won that fluke Major cuz they were the best team in history? HAHAHHAHA
2022-11-26 00:35
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g2
2022-11-26 00:35
12 replies
#4
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Aruba defoliant
go with g3, g4, g5 and so on. Does not change the fact.
2022-11-26 00:36
11 replies
#8
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Faroe Islands Antonijs
g2 fans = should shut up
2022-11-26 00:37
8 replies
+1
2022-11-26 00:39
+1
2022-11-26 01:13
+111
2022-11-26 16:48
+1
2022-11-26 16:54
You made a whole thread about how its sdy's fault and called people names and what not and you're on here acting the same way you described others lol
2022-11-26 17:11
#99
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Poland dejmanOOO
+1
2022-11-26 18:16
+11111 kkkkk this guy audacity
2022-11-26 19:29
#111
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Korea Axiotimos
+1
2022-11-26 21:18
g6
2022-11-26 00:38
1 reply
#22
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Russia AliasNamer
g7
2022-11-26 00:39
Gamers 2
2022-11-26 00:36
#3
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Italy alastt27
it has nothing to do with the competition, navi collapsed from inside bc of s1mple, role changes, star players down fall.
2022-11-26 00:36
27 replies
True but it is at least somewhat due to the competition.
2022-11-26 00:37
23 replies
Not really, these conclusions just make no sense
2022-11-26 00:39
3 replies
Teams are better now so of course the competition is harder for navi. I never said the competition is the only reason.
2022-11-26 00:45
2 replies
What makes you think that so called competition is much better now. Only faze was a real improvement, all other "superteams created to dethrone navi" turned to be a complete disaster Saying that it's "blatantly untrue" doesn't prove anything, you know. Teams are a bit better, but it's not such a big difference that could seriously impact navi
2022-11-26 00:58
#88
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
Yet the only team in the first 6 months of 2022 to truly best NaVi were FaZe and that was with NaVi being evidently weaker overall compared to 2021. Where were all the other "better" teams? that's right, still losing to NaVi...
2022-11-26 17:04
Is it though? Competition didn’t cause the bullshit with boombl4 Now navi is full tilt with bad chemistry. We don’t know if they would have kept dominating if the roster hadn’t changed but what’s for sure is they had found a great rhythm and great roles and now everything is different and it’s hard.
2022-11-26 00:40
1 reply
When did I say that navi wasn't full tilt with bad chemistry? I literally said that navi's bad performance is partly due to tougher competition and therefore also partly due to the team's internal struggles. Not too hard to understand, right?
2022-11-26 00:46
#36
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Argentina atriX^
What competition? G2 was a complete failure. Vitality was a semi-failure and would've been a complete failure if they hadn't won EPL. The other team that was upgraded to challenge NAVI was FaZe and while FaZe was a top team, NAVI was a top team and was always there challenging. The rest, nothing. NAVI imploded. The war, boombl4, and now blatant underperformance. It has nothing to do with competition. NAVI has no map pool and that massive firepower is no longer there. Making electronic IGL was a massive mistake and the Blast win clouded that. I do not blame sdy at all for any of this. But he simply isn't what NAVI needs and therefore has to go. b1t is the other one that has to get his head out of the gutter. The supposedly third star of the team in the red on the CT side. And post-break, s1mple hasn't been there either. Post-break, NAVI went 0/3 in terms of star players. It is what it is.
2022-11-26 00:50
16 replies
If you think it has nothing to do with competition, you are saying 2022 teams are are no better than navi's opponents in 2021, no? Which is blatantly untrue. Yawn.
2022-11-26 00:51
15 replies
#40
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Argentina atriX^
I have no idea how you got that from what I said. Teams are better. But teams being better is not why NAVI have not been performing. The reasons why according to my opinion are in my comment above.
2022-11-26 00:55
14 replies
I mean if you think teams are better then competition is at least a factor for navi's weaker performance, which is what I said - it is that simple. Maybe you don't know what a "factor" is or what "somewhat" means.
2022-11-26 00:56
13 replies
#44
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Argentina atriX^
OK. Let me put it this way so that you understand what I'm saying instead of writing BS about me not understanding words. NAVI, in this current form, would not have won ANY of the LAN events they won last year. And wouldn't have been better than the competition from 2021.
2022-11-26 00:59
12 replies
#46
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Aruba defoliant
no, the point is that even in navi 2021 form (which is actually just a bit better maybe than their current form) they would have won max 1 event last year if current level of competition was present in 2021.
2022-11-26 01:02
9 replies
ur just stupid
2022-11-26 01:06
#52
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Argentina atriX^
Just a bit better? Seriously. Did you see the numbers s1mple, electronic and b1t put up last year? If you think those numbers have now fallen off a cliff because of "competition" then might as well stop talking. This is NAVI's star trio during the first half of the season with the same level of competition: hltv.org/stats/players/7998/s1mple?start.. hltv.org/stats/players/events/8918/elect.. hltv.org/stats/players/18987/b1t?startDa.. A couple months later and none of them are close to those numbers. NAVI lost their IGL and one of their star players had to take the role. FaZe dominated, NAVI was still up there. Current NAVI was not "just a bit better", they were miles better. Even the map pool is nowhere near 2021's.
2022-11-26 01:12
7 replies
#62
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Aruba defoliant
they put those numbers cuz OTHER TEAM ALLOWED THEM TO DO IT (covid, online period, dead teams etc - the weakest competition period in cs history aknowledged by everyone, including casters). This year other teams DONT ALLOW navi to play good enough. Its like me playing vs 10 year old kids - i will put insane stats, trust me.
2022-11-26 01:35
6 replies
#64
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Argentina atriX^
The stats I shared above are from 2022. NAVI, TODAY are far from those numbers.
2022-11-26 01:53
5 replies
#68
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Aruba defoliant
but in headline of my post i compare 2021 and 2022. Thats my point.
2022-11-26 02:18
4 replies
he totally outclassed you in the argument, ur point is straight outta ur ass while his is supported by sound reasoning and stats
2022-11-26 02:23
3 replies
#70
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Aruba defoliant
2022-11-26 02:27
2 replies
cope, compare same rosters. now u will go and compare today's astralis with previous astralis and say competition has gotten tougher thats why glaive cant put up numbers. I bet u can't even give a counter argument anymore, A war and an igl swap are much bigger factors
2022-11-26 02:32
1 reply
#72
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Aruba defoliant
2022-11-26 02:30
Yes that's a fair statement and I agree, so idk why you decided to spew random shit like saying that their bad performance is not at all due to other teams being more competitive, when it is to some extent at least. But imagine for a sec that faze and other teams this year weren't quite as good, then navi might've won cologne or other events like the antwerp major, even with the war and sdy and role changes - they were very close to winning these events and lost narrowly. So clearly the competition is part of it and their team struggles are part of it.
2022-11-26 01:06
bruh ur right stop explaining to these trolls (or theyre just stupid)
2022-11-26 01:07
#9
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Aruba defoliant
it has everything to do with competition. the faster navi org realize that, the faster they can improve to be actulaly able to win something.
2022-11-26 00:37
1 reply
#16
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CIS xiPsterine
Ironic
2022-11-26 00:38
+1
2022-11-26 16:54
lmao2 fan?
2022-11-26 00:36
#6
suka | 
Russia INESSOR
SAVE SDY TAKE HIM IN OTHER TEAM PLS
2022-11-26 00:36
1 reply
yes please get him out of navi!!!!
2022-11-26 01:26
Exactly, navi fans are so delusional. Navi cant win sh*t now with good team around. Cant even beat NIP.
2022-11-26 00:37
37 replies
yea navi dosent deserve even top 20 shit team
2022-11-26 00:38
34 replies
#24
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Aruba defoliant
i did not say navi is a shit team, i only said they are not as good as people think they are.
2022-11-26 00:40
27 replies
bro im not joking navi are playing like shit rn
2022-11-26 00:46
26 replies
#47
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Aruba defoliant
they are playing decent but other team just WONT let them play better.
2022-11-26 01:03
25 replies
nah navi are just way worse than last year every analyst agrees and casters
2022-11-26 01:12
24 replies
#57
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Aruba defoliant
nah about the same, in first half of the year they were even better than last year
2022-11-26 01:31
23 replies
well thats just delusonal if u rly think that
2022-11-26 01:32
21 replies
#59
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Aruba defoliant
even casters proving my point that on live stream. Most sane people think the same way i do.
2022-11-26 01:33
20 replies
they were litteraly saying that navi arent playing like they used to last year? are you baiting or are you just a hardcore hater for no reason oh yea navi beat g2 last year multiple times at finals hahahah that explains it
2022-11-26 02:06
19 replies
#67
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Aruba defoliant
no they were saying that last year was the lowest competition year in history of cs.
2022-11-26 02:17
18 replies
send a clip of them saying that
2022-11-26 02:56
17 replies
#79
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Aruba defoliant
not gonna bother making clip etc but you can rewatch game vs Liquid (i think it was mirage) they dioscussed that). Also mentioned priviously by other casters, basically i heard a lot about weakes competition year from many casters.
2022-11-26 16:46
16 replies
That's what i thought
2022-11-26 16:52
15 replies
#90
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Aruba defoliant
yeah rewatch the match, you will find it for sure But i assume it will be hard for you to watch the match where nitro humiliated "omnipotent" simple :)))
2022-11-26 17:20
14 replies
as i said thats what i thought
2022-11-26 17:20
13 replies
#92
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Aruba defoliant
keep living in your fantasy world where somple navi destroying everyone hahaha
2022-11-26 17:23
12 replies
that is hardly a fantasy unlike yours where g2 win somethign HAHAHHA
2022-11-26 17:24
11 replies
#95
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Aruba defoliant
unlike you i realize that G2 cant win shit, but you still believe navi was the best team in history of cs. Anyone will say you are delusional.
2022-11-26 17:34
10 replies
when did i say that navi are the best team in history of cs? are you schizophrenic or something?
2022-11-26 17:39
9 replies
#98
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Aruba defoliant
i clearly remember you said it at least several times last year.
2022-11-26 18:14
8 replies
Proof? That's what I thought
2022-11-26 18:24
7 replies
#101
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Aruba defoliant
you also thought that navi major win was not a fluke one.
2022-11-26 18:38
6 replies
oh yea major where navi didnt lose a single map and destroyed g2 in finals good times
2022-11-26 18:40
5 replies
#103
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Aruba defoliant
oh yeah major where navi played against all dead teams and struggled against G2 in finals where Amanek was awping (!). And in 2022 where number of dead teams goes down immensly and full lan came back suddenly navi stopped winning. Coincedence? :) Or you think that suddenly navi forgot how to play same cs they played in 2021? Suddenly :)))
2022-11-26 18:59
4 replies
That's just ur opinion The only people who agree with u are haters same as yourself Maybe stop hating on others and focus on ur fav team... U make threads everytime navi lose classic toxic hater get a life goblin
2022-11-26 19:25
3 replies
#109
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Aruba defoliant
no, you, navi fans, cried too much and too loud during 2021, now you will pay the price. I will hate on navi and navi fans as long as i want, at least till navi manage to win something in high competition environment and prove they are indeed a top contender when it matters the most.
2022-11-26 20:40
2 replies
Ok man you do you
2022-11-26 21:16
1 reply
#112
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Aruba defoliant
i will
2022-11-26 21:31
Bro what? 0/8
2022-11-26 16:57
Cope
2022-11-26 00:46
5 replies
most inteligent argument i have ever seen u have outsmarted me
2022-11-26 00:47
4 replies
Keep malding
2022-11-26 00:49
3 replies
i cant argue with you u are too smart mannnn
2022-11-26 00:50
2 replies
Mad?
2022-11-26 00:57
1 reply
yea :((
2022-11-26 01:12
#17
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Aruba defoliant
but you cant deny NiP actulaly playing decent cs now. (at least these event). I see good t sides from them.
2022-11-26 00:38
1 reply
Yeah, this event they play good. They were just really bad the first match.
2022-11-26 00:46
poor g2 fan
2022-11-26 00:37
G2 is not part of that competion saly XD
2022-11-26 00:38
#13
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CIS xiPsterine
Flair
2022-11-26 00:38
nip good competition ok... lol
2022-11-26 00:39
thats why they didnt lose a single map in the major ---- while g2 choked :V
2022-11-26 00:39
not even the same roster meanwhile monesy is forced to waste his talent playing with the worst player in history
2022-11-26 00:47
We love to talk shit about G2 every day, but this Navi is dead too
2022-11-26 00:47
S0mple won fluke major I fear
2022-11-26 00:48
2 replies
#76
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Algeria Harique_
you're entire post history is you hating on simple wtf happened bro did he hurt you or smth ? lol, before u start spewing shit about my flair i think navi and simple in general are playing like dogshit so im not defending that
2022-11-26 02:50
1 reply
+1
2022-11-26 16:58
#38
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Russia FIN_MAX!
No Boombl4 No Party
2022-11-26 00:50
look at this bot low iq play
2022-11-26 00:59
with navi downfall, imperial will surely take over
2022-11-26 01:33
#63
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Sweden Mendiy
g2
2022-11-26 01:38
Navi is done and not just on cs
2022-11-26 02:13
"Not so easy to win games as a Ukrainian org with Ukrainian and Russian players while there's a f**king war involving both countries." That what you mean, right? Or you think its super easy to focus in the game while your friends are being exploded by bombs or sent to war and dying? While your town, places you know and love are being zeroed. Go to the statistics and check when the team decline started and when the invasion begun... you'll might find some "coincidence" there.
2022-11-26 02:34
2 replies
#74
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Aruba defoliant
lame excuse dude
2022-11-26 02:42
1 reply
Says the guy who hasn’t left his house in 10 years
2022-11-26 17:00
#75
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Indonesia tldr))
I'll rate 1/8 for the effort of this weak bait
2022-11-26 02:46
FLAIR LULW
2022-11-26 02:57
#87
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Ukraine Kellso
I CAME
2022-11-26 17:01
0/8, but it's true that navi's playing dogshit, as a navi fan I'm actually happy that they got eliminated
2022-11-26 17:27
Navi need igl with good mechanics - but all of them a russians;(
2022-11-26 17:37
#105
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Latvia zegiz
Not so easy to win matches when opponents are the same, just NaVi plays like shit. 2021 they JUST A WAY BETTER than anyone.
2022-11-26 19:25
Yes, they were the best team in history
2022-11-26 19:32
"best team in history"? probably not, but there were a super strong team, not only because of lower competition.
2022-11-26 19:34
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