Thread has been deleted
Last comment
NAF is the only player on this team that deserves respect. Even with 0 star position, it has 1.10 rating. Maybe he just has a good position in Overpass but he's ruining it with nitr0 calls too. Now let's come to Liquid.
I don't really understand what this team is trying to do. By repeating the same thing they did wrong, they expect different results, and that's really interesting, and it's even more interesting that they believe it. nitr0's searches aren't bad overall, but they're not good either. In addition, he needs to contribute more frag individually. No one expects him to play against Navi, but they don't expect him to hit 10 either (except in this tournament he was fine here). Yekindar plays well on the T side, but since he plays very aggressively in CT, he usually gives an entry, which causes a great burden on the team. My personal opinion is that he can change his roles on the CT side in some maps with NAF. Because there is a lot of burden on him, which forces him. Elige and Osee are very inconsistent. They definitely need to fix this. There is no point in playing well in the first matches after losing in important matches. Also, they need to stop playing Vertigo now. How many tournaments have we lost because of Vertigo? Also, do the map voting properly. Do not leave the map where the opponent is strongest to Decider!
And lastly always Let's GO Liquid!!
3 replies
disband
7 replies
1 reply
4 replies
3 replies
2 replies
1 reply
The fact that you have to reference specific events to show that he is consistent proves that he is inconsistent. Also, EliGE will be garbage in support roles, and if you want to put him in star roles he’s still gonna be inconsistent. This is a terrible fix. Replacing a T2 Awper with a T2 Awper solves absolutely nothing
hltv.org/stats/players/matches/10330/aco..
Tl dr?
4 replies
It’s so hard to accurately gauge them.
Beat Navi and G2 comfortably
And I thought NAVI was really bad by losing to NIP, but NIP is beating FaZe now?
Lose to recent Major finalist Heroic in 3rd map again, which is Heroic’s best map and Liquid’s worst
And their vertigo specifically is bad, and even that map was a bunch of clutches / 2v1 throws
5 replies
2 replies
Agreed.
Also Yekindar and Elige are never “on” in the same map.
1 reply
Bro wrote an entire paragraph for something That is actually quite Simple: Elige is always bottom fragging on important matches despite playing the star role.
/Closed
The current roster doesn't play Nuke
this means the opposing team can always force in vertigo.
They need to either get a good vertigo or learn nuke
4 replies
2 replies
even if they learn anubis other teams can pick vertigo against them
1 reply
They need to get good on Anubis or Nuke going forward.
Their vertigo is absolutely killing them tournament after tournament. They literally lost EPL on it. Got kicked out of the major on it and have now been kicked out of Blast on it.
There are secondary issues like Elige seeming to not play well in finals/semis all of a sudden as well but the big team wide problem is their garbage vertigo.
This team is ultra frustrating to watch. I mean I still love them and I'm glad they made the fall final but please fix this map pool.
edit - They are really good on inferno and mirage which is great considering every team plays these maps they just need more. Also stop banning ancient for vertigo. I could do the veto better then these fools.
5 replies
I agree with what you said. They haven't been able to solve the vertigo problem for years. We lost in Starladder Major 2019 because of Vertigo. I think the only solution is to remove Vertigo from the active map pool and add Nuke. Also, like you said, they screw it up at the veto stage. They chose Veritgo against Heroic in the Major, how they believed they could win, I never understood! Yesterday, instead of choosing Ancient again, they chose Vertigo and we disappeared again. Also, I think players should change positions in some maps, especially NAF. NAF remains very passive on the CT side. Finally, our T-side offense is ridiculous. They need to improve T side
4 replies
The thing is I'm pretty sure NAF wants to be in the roles he is in.
The only person he could change with is Elige or Nitro and both require him to be way more aggressive then he's ever been in his whole career.
The map pool is the major problem here. They should learn to play 7 maps like a Karrigan team and ban out Vert v. the teams that are gonna kill them on it like Heroic.
3 replies
I don't think they need to learn 7 maps! They never did, and I don't think they ever will! If they can manage to play very well on all 6 maps, I think it's okay. NAF is also happy with his positions, but I think he should play more IMPACT positions. Because he is very consistent and always somehow brings the round to Liquid. But when he's passive, there's nothing he can do.
2 replies
Yes but again NAF likes being in those positions. He's a natural lurker.
1 reply
Dude he's the best lurker in the game in my opinion. But the team doesn't quite let him do this job. For example, he doesn't play lurker in the Vertigo. It is not clear who is playing. We used to win Vertigo when he was playing as lurker, but right now we're just losing. I think this is one of the main reasons why we were defeated in Vertigo.
Now playing
FISSURE
6067 viewers
Top streams
All(34)
Casters(19)
Streamers(8)
Organizers(7)
FISSURE
(6067)
gaules
(4287)
Champion of Champions
(2822)
olofmeister
(2619)
kennyS
(2256)
ESL TV
(2116)
KRL
(1947)
Apoka
(1908)
Champion of Champions 2
(1130)
zipeL
(1117)
zoneR
(737)
mucha
(623)
DMGPoland
(596)
Pitu Herranz
(546)
BeHopGG
(512)
Eden Esports
(497)
watchfulTV
(466)
cogu
(444)
FTW Esports
(417)
NEO
(298)
mch
(262)
Jogando Junto
(205)
fines
(186)
1pv
(119)
1mpala
(101)
BTSBrasilFPS
(100)
Champion of Champions 2
(59)
BTSBrasilCSGO
(48)
momentefps
(41)
Champion of Champions 2
(39)
FishTheHusky
(36)
DAVEY
(27)
jmqa
(9)
1ceN1ce116
(7)
