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Broky vs yekindar
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China Bruhmomento1420 
Who u think is better Latvian player? I will say yekindar for sure.
2022-11-28 05:53
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#1
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Italy PhilD06
they have different roles, yekindar is insanely good at entrying and making space for the team, broky is a very good AWPer and can also make space, maybe Yekindar has more impact in TL I’d say since he can literally win a round by himself and his entries are godlike, might be kinda bias though😅
2022-11-28 05:54
17 replies
True, yekindar impact in TL feels more than what broky impacts feels in faze to me as well.
2022-11-28 05:58
1 reply
because liquid is nothing without yekindar
2022-11-28 19:59
#56
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United States Relunk
What a LAN trophy for Yekindar
2022-11-28 17:12
3 replies
#102
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Italy PhilD06
can you read? we were talking about better stats wise and who has like more impact, trophies was never a talking point mate
2022-11-28 19:23
1 reply
#139
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United States Relunk
When someone has 4 more LAN trophies, there is no debate to be had
2022-11-28 22:44
#129
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Europe dooddi
warra indian team
2022-11-28 21:27
nah thats true imo but still different roles so shouldnt be compared to each other and if you wanna know who is latvias GOAT its obviously broky
2022-11-28 19:01
6 replies
#101
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Italy PhilD06
well he won more for sure
2022-11-28 19:22
5 replies
thats the whole point
2022-11-28 19:32
4 replies
#111
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Italy PhilD06
2022-11-28 20:12
3 replies
you misunderstood me i meant why is broky the GOAT of latvia and yeki isnt:)
2022-11-28 20:16
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#121
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Italy PhilD06
I didn't misunderstood you, we were talking about stats and not about goats + not thats its hard to be a goat of a country which only has 2 relevant players
2022-11-28 21:11
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doesnt matter still broky is the greatest player of all time in latvia yekindar,broky,keen,flarich,shield,and many more in future
2022-11-28 22:30
yeki has very bad performance under pressure, broky plays very well under pressue
2022-11-28 19:52
2 replies
#109
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Italy PhilD06
that is not true, might be true sometimes but generally speaking thats bs
2022-11-28 20:12
+1
2022-11-28 20:30
thats because liquid is more reliant on one man than faze are
2022-11-28 21:19
Yeki himself said that broky is the best latvian player
2022-11-28 05:55
36 replies
Lol when?
2022-11-28 06:10
8 replies
latvian podcasts
2022-11-28 06:19
#16
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Latvia Klzzys
In a latvian interview few months back, ill post it if i can find it
2022-11-28 06:36
6 replies
becuz broky 1 major kato proleague cologne yeki 0
2022-11-28 08:57
5 replies
yeah but he's worse
2022-11-28 17:07
4 replies
broky better with awp (1major) yeki better with rifle (next major for sure) cri
2022-11-28 17:30
3 replies
broky is better with awp but worse with everything else. The impact isnt even close
2022-11-28 17:39
2 replies
ok bye
2022-11-28 17:52
you are going to jail
2022-11-28 19:52
ofc he would say that to seem nice and chill
2022-11-28 06:28
26 replies
No. Just not delusional. You simply can't be better than awp abuser if you entry + rifle
2022-11-28 06:38
25 replies
#18
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Yugoslavia kingcys
Depends entirely on what you consider to measure a players skill. YEKINDAR is a top 3 rifler based on impact, Broky isn’t even top 5
2022-11-28 06:40
24 replies
+1 yekindar best entry rifler for past 2 yrs,broky on the other hand isn't even top 3 awper.
2022-11-28 06:44
2 replies
Not easy when there's s1mple, Zywoo and sh1ro
2022-11-28 17:23
1 reply
#69
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Yugoslavia kingcys
Much easier than being the best entry, it requires you to always be on good form
2022-11-28 17:55
"YEKINDAR is a top 3 rifler based on impact" impact rating is not that important
2022-11-28 15:36
7 replies
#71
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Yugoslavia kingcys
It is, it’s what separates players like cadiaN and broky from S1mple, ZywOo, NiKo, YEKINDAR, Ax1le
2022-11-28 17:56
6 replies
HLTV Impact rating is flawed and doesn't account for a plenty of stuff.
2022-11-28 19:14
5 replies
#104
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Yugoslavia kingcys
Point still stands, what makes a player a superstar is impact
2022-11-28 19:47
4 replies
Ehhm no. Rating 2.0 is the first stat that differentiates players.
2022-11-28 20:16
3 replies
#114
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Yugoslavia kingcys
If you think 1.16 rating with 1.08 impact is anything similar to 1.16 rating with 1.33 impact your delusional. Broky is OVERRATED and has nowhere near the same impact as sh1ro, s1mple, and ZywOo. When comparing broky to Yekindar, you have to realize that the awp has just gotten nerfed and broky is a mediocre awp abuser
2022-11-28 20:22
2 replies
I didn't say anything about botky though. And, you see, yall making that mistake everywhere: you're literally using HLTV Impact rating as a common noun, even though it's nothing more than a gimmicky multi-/opening kills & clutches measurement.
2022-11-28 20:25
1 reply
#116
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Yugoslavia kingcys
OpK’s and multi kills are far more viable and important in top tier competition than 1 and done kills, awp refrags, and exit frags
2022-11-28 20:27
So Broky is not a top 3 awper? lmfao
2022-11-28 17:09
12 replies
Zywoo S1mple sh1ro >>>>>
2022-11-28 17:30
#70
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Yugoslavia kingcys
Not even top 5, if you say he is, delusional
2022-11-28 17:55
10 replies
I think he is this year, had huge impact throughout big events
2022-11-28 18:01
3 replies
#75
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Yugoslavia kingcys
Lol ok. “Big events” = one honeymoon at Kato and a Blast Qualifier
2022-11-28 18:01
2 replies
The Faze hate is showing plain and clearly
2022-11-28 18:03
1 reply
#78
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Yugoslavia kingcys
What? I’m just saying he had a fluke honeymoon event and fell off the whole year before he was under threat of being replaced. Shows a lack of work ethic. No need for me to hate on FaZe anymore, they lost to Onliners in finals and went 0-3 in major
2022-11-28 18:05
whos top 5? s1mple, shiro, zywoo, jame(?) and who, surely you wont put device after being inactive for 1 year
2022-11-28 18:01
5 replies
#76
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Yugoslavia kingcys
in terms of raw individual skill s1mple, ZywOo, sh1ro, Jame, m0NESY, degster, w0nderful all outrank broky. Broky can be replaced, YEKINDAR can not. /closed
2022-11-28 18:03
4 replies
somehow i forgot about m0nesy, i wouldnt say degster and w0nderful are better lmao but fine
2022-11-28 18:07
1 reply
#81
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Yugoslavia kingcys
degster is 100% better than broky, his team is just bad. Imagine comparing NEOFRAG, F1KU, FlameZ core to the FaZe riflers. W0nderful is showing consistent improvement and I’d say he’s gonna be better next major
2022-11-28 18:08
>degster LMFAO one good run at major that broky won
2022-11-28 19:55
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#110
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Yugoslavia kingcys
Again, it’s a mere matter of team difference. When compared directly, degster owns broky
2022-11-28 20:12
#4
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CIS mcs#
Mareks!
2022-11-28 05:59
Different roles cant be compared
2022-11-28 06:00
1 reply
2022-11-28 06:01
#7
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Australia boblao
I mean put it this way, I feel as if there are many people who could do broky jobs in faze, possibly slightly worse or better, whereas with Yekindar he is kind of unmatched
2022-11-28 06:04
5 replies
Yeah if u put s1mple/zywoo they can easily do broky job but even much better. While yekindar is literally the best entry in the world for past 2 yrs,his impact in any team is unmatched honestly.
2022-11-28 06:09
4 replies
broky legitimately takes 0 space from his teammates while s1mple and zywoo are the owner of their team :) just stop it, if you cant analyze properly you are not supposed to write something on internet neccasarily buddy even analyst mentioned it many times:)
2022-11-28 19:05
3 replies
#119
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Czech Republic poledne
You have to take acount the whole team... i personaly think you just can not compare entry to awp... but if i had to i would say yeah yekinder is a bit better, BUT that is only because it is very hard to be pro awp with people like zywoo and s1mple.. even device is still really good.
2022-11-28 21:05
1 reply
thats absolutely right i even mentioned somewhere in this thread yekindar is obviously more valuable all things considered but underestimating broky is just a disrespect
2022-11-28 22:22
oh nooo, u hit him with "buddy"
2022-11-28 21:16
Broky better clutcher and passive player. Yekindar better entryfragger and aggresive player. Based on their accomplishments this year I have to give it to Broky. But Yekindar is also within top 10 imo so both are close
2022-11-28 06:11
10 replies
Yekindar without a doubt reason:- he took dying outsiders/liquid team and made them some of the best team overall. Based on roles too yekindar role is much harder than broky,yet he still has same stats what broky has with an awp but even better impact ratings overall. Broky job can be done by any awper u switch s1mple/zywoo to faze and boom faze will going to be even better than what they r right now. While with yekindar it's pretty hard to match his impact with any other rifler honestly in the scene right now. Also trophies won by a team not by single individual,liquid isn't as good as 1st first half of the faze where this yr.
2022-11-28 06:25
9 replies
Dude, ur arguments wtf.., 1st of all outsiders won the major AFTER yekindar left the squad so do not give him any credit for their rise. yes he is pretty much singlehandedly carrying liquid rn, but it's a bad comparison if u say that simple would do a much better job than broky, but no one could replace yekindar, trust me simple would do exactly the same job as yekindar does as an entry fragger because his gamesense is just next level and his rifle abilities are insane aswell, so it's so ungrateful to compare simple or even zywoo with broky cuz they are 2 best players in the world, but there are not much relevant entry fraggers these days... U wont see yekindar clutching a shit and his ct side is not that good tbh, so Broky all day long
2022-11-28 16:32
3 replies
S1mple doesn't hard entry like yekindar with rifle no comparison. Yekindar has been best entry for 2 yrs now even pros says the same. Plus outsiders winning this majors is honestly a fluke and nothing else.
2022-11-28 16:43
Yes broky is good but s1mple/zywoo in that respective role is better. Zywoo is even better clutcher than broky but got stuck with bad team compare to broky.
2022-11-28 16:37
1 reply
just to make it clear, I'm not saying that broky is better than yeki, it's a matter of consistency, just that I prefer his playstyle as it's much more interesting and pleasing to watch and when he's feeling it, no yekindar could entry his ass
2022-11-28 16:37
Kicking egoist bot made outsiders better lmao
2022-11-28 16:48
4 replies
Outsiders winning rio majors was fluke,unless they win another tournament i really don't think they got improved since yekindar left. Plus liquid where close as well winning the epl this yr.
2022-11-28 17:05
3 replies
man it's so obvious that their team chemistry improved a lot, he's definitely a better fit for Liquid, luckily VP realized that they should build around Jame and not yekindar and that's exactly what brought them to the finals and that's nonetheless the reason why they won the title. They could've dreamed of major title with yekindar on their team
2022-11-28 17:11
Outsiders with Yekindar Group stage EPL 15 Legend stage Major(They were lucky to make major SAW unlucky legshot Jame 0.000001 defuse) Outsiders without Yekindar Quarterfinals of EPL 16 ESL Challenger Winner Major Winner
2022-11-28 17:13
1 reply
Nobody cares about ESL challenger honestly,u also forget outsiders last yr where Kato finalists and only lost against best team of online that was Gambit, they where in quaters of last yr majors as well and not in group stage only. Major win of outsiders as i said would be the biggest fluke this yr,unless they win another tournament.
2022-11-28 17:18
Just look at their KPR. If a riflers is higher then an AWPer chances are he's better.
2022-11-28 06:28
1 reply
+1
2022-11-28 06:29
#19
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Brazil _Awper
Yekindar obviously, is not even close. Awp abusing is not Counter-Strike.
2022-11-28 06:41
1 reply
Awp is still a skills tho,but i agree yekindar is better than broky.
2022-11-28 07:25
Baltic superteam: Broky Yek1ndar Ropz ... uhhh Shokz Bymas Heccu - coach
2022-11-28 06:48
2 replies
#22
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Lithuania CEOofwomen
jL over bymas tbh
2022-11-28 07:13
yekindar entry/aggressive rifler broky awper ropz lurker/anchor bymas free roamer keen/jyo/jl igl
2022-11-28 19:06
#24
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Czech Republic JameS_19
YEKINDAR
2022-11-28 07:34
I don't know why you're asking this if you have a set opinion about both players and you're trying to change everyones opinion about what they prefer Yekindar has more impact, is able to open rounds and to set the pace of the game. Broky has avg impact, is able to close rounds, really good clutch player and can be a star when he's feeling it. Two different roles.
2022-11-28 13:53
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#47
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Latvia Blinded_
Hands down the smartest guy on HLTV. Well said +1
2022-11-28 16:39
yeki ez
2022-11-28 13:54
Probably yekindar but if broky didn't have 3 star players around him he might be better For lack of a better example think Russell Westbrook when he won mvp vs Westbrook with KD
2022-11-28 13:59
Broky awp Yekindar entry /closed
2022-11-28 14:01
1 reply
forget about they roles for once who u still think is more impactful for his team and does more?
2022-11-28 14:51
yekindar prob more talented but id say theyre tied
2022-11-28 14:49
3 replies
broky could play with both awp and rifle also he is more clutch so how is yekindar more talented?
2022-11-28 19:09
2 replies
1) Any AWPer needs to know how to rifle somewhat, so wtf is that argument? 2) THIS year in terms of achievements Broky is ahead. However, he is very inconsistent (nice major performance LOL) and averages a 1.1 rating as an AWPer, which is kinda low considering he is abusing the best gun in the game. Yekindar still has better stats in everything except KAST and DPR (which doesn't really count since Yekindar plays so aggressively). Not to mention that Yekindar is one of the highest impact players - very good entry fragger.
2022-11-28 21:14
1 reply
broky stats are not as good as awpers like s1mple zywoo cause he is not the center of his team unlike them he could be jame type of awper who plays safe and still wins the rounds but prefers to go the information and possible frags yekindar is an entry whose really good at his job and takes 0 space in his team but still is the center of the team like the whole team plays around him on T side btw have you ever seen broky rifling?probably not :) (majority of awpers rifling skills are not as good as their awping skills but broky who could be insanely good with both)
2022-11-28 22:29
YEKINDAR obv , he also was the #8 last year with vp
2022-11-28 14:53
3 replies
broky probably gonna be like top6 this year tho
2022-11-28 16:23
2 replies
yep but cause faze won too much this year , yeki won nothing last year
2022-11-28 16:35
1 reply
i just compare stats but yeah yekindar 2021 was more impressive tbh as hes hard entry type player
2022-11-28 16:38
if you speak about raw talent then probably yekindar, but broky's playstyle is very special if you ask me.
2022-11-28 15:00
#34
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United States Topher
Idk but yekindar is the best entry whereas broky is maybe top 5 awper
2022-11-28 15:09
1 reply
Difference is, Brokys competition is the likes of Sh1ro, S1mple, Zywoo for AWPing overall, so I think it's only fair to compare YEKINDAR to the best riflers in Ax1le and NiKo. Still YEKI better but I think your point is a bit ignorant.
2022-11-28 17:27
FaZe YEKINDAR soon god duo with broky
2022-11-28 15:38
1 reply
+1
2022-11-28 19:11
who is yekindar he didnt even lift a trophy yet
2022-11-28 15:40
1 reply
#72
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Poland dejmanOOO
Same as zywho
2022-11-28 17:58
not comparable bro broky is good awper, yeki good rifler
2022-11-28 15:41
broky had more achievements but yekindar is better in individual skills
2022-11-28 16:21
SirFoch
2022-11-28 16:41
Yekindar is miles ahead, even though the latter has 4 trophies.
2022-11-28 16:44
All hail lord and saviour yekindar
2022-11-28 16:53
I think last year is obvious, but this year is odd. YEKINDAR had I think most can admit not a great start to the season only activating in the past few months while broky has been consistant all year round. YEKINDARS ceiling is far higher but Broky is consistantly providing and still being a star. As far as best ''individual'' player goes its YEKI easily, his mechanics are too good
2022-11-28 17:23
Atm I would say broky, but Yeki definitely has higher ceiling
2022-11-28 17:25
This year clearly broky and it’s not even close
2022-11-28 17:33
2 different roles obviously, only thing you can compare are trophies or impact. And yet still trophies = broky, impact = yr
2022-11-28 17:36
Well they're different players and is hard to compare but here we go. Yekindar's role on TL is undeniable the most important cause it feels like TL cant win ronds if yekindar is playing bas, if he is not making space to them so elige and naf can deliver. He is by far the best entry rn and one of the best players in the world. In the other hand we have broky that is an important piece for faze of course but is not as important as yekindar cause in faze if broky doesnt find openning kills on T side for exemplo faze have the ones to do that like rain or twistzz. But broky is super important in their Ct side when he his pro active, always searching for the opportunity to create an advantage for faze, always trying to find the entry. he is everywhere in the map and one of the main reasons faze ct side is unreal. Also a pretty consistent player for faze through this year (stats dont lie, only one bad event that inclusive was the one that faze's lost by a huge margin). Overall i think yekindar is more important on T sides and broky on ct sides. They're both extremelly good, both latvian laser and latvian star. For me i prefer latvian laser (broky) but i can agree as well that yekindar is more important just because if yekindar doesnt play well, liquid will certainly lose and if broky has a bad day there are stars in faze who can fill his role.
2022-11-28 18:05
11 replies
-1 are you baiting wtf?
2022-11-28 18:11
1 reply
-1 are u blind wtf?
2022-11-28 18:56
+1 Good points even tho im split in the middle
2022-11-28 18:59
8 replies
-1 flag
2022-11-28 19:00
7 replies
Can't be bias if they're both my countrymen
2022-11-28 19:03
6 replies
-1 argument rejected
2022-11-28 19:04
5 replies
flair rejected
2022-11-28 19:05
4 replies
why tho? the goat
2022-11-28 19:06
3 replies
-111 junior better
2022-11-28 19:06
2 replies
true sorry junior the goat
2022-11-28 19:07
1 reply
thanks mens
2022-11-28 19:08
#87
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Ukraine Kellso
Broky for sure 100%
2022-11-28 19:02
broky
2022-11-28 20:31
liquid was shit without yekindar
2022-11-28 21:08
9 replies
yeah they also had 0.94 rated shox. I think anyone decent player would have made them ''not shit''
2022-11-28 21:18
8 replies
#126
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Yugoslavia kingcys
No “decent player” can average 1.3+ impact
2022-11-28 21:22
5 replies
I didn't say they could. I simply said any decent player couldve made liquid a pheesable t1 team
2022-11-28 21:24
4 replies
#131
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Yugoslavia kingcys
Your undermining YEKINDARs contribution. Liquid would RARELY make playoffs if they got a player like Grim instead
2022-11-28 21:55
3 replies
Yes, and I respect that. But I think it's simply a dumb comparison when you credit YEKINDAR so heavily as if they didnt have shox before, not that YEKI didnt do tremendous work in liquid but its just ignorant to the previous roster.
2022-11-28 21:56
2 replies
#133
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Yugoslavia kingcys
People credit Yekindar so heavily because he is the most impactful player on the team inside and outside the server. The only reason Liquid isn’t a top contender right now is because of EliGE inconsistency
2022-11-28 22:03
1 reply
They're still a top contender, simply not the best contender. As I said, he does have tremendous impact. But I think you ignore the fact that the starting basis a team with shox performing that bad is a bad baseline and anyone wouldve been an upgrade
2022-11-28 22:07
yea they tried people before shox too, they were shit for 2 years until yekindar came along
2022-11-28 21:24
1 reply
''shit'' wouldnt be the right word. With Shox they were barely t1, atleast with the fallen iteration they were pretty good in the beginning but simply fell to a mediocre t1 team thereafter
2022-11-28 21:28
Yekindar is for sure better dude is a god. But when Broky is on he is probably better.
2022-11-28 22:35
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