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Heroic #1?
blameF | 
Denmark TomBombad1l 
Surely Heroic is going to be #1 when HLTV updates the rankings later tonight, right?
2022-11-28 18:45
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#2
KENSI | 
Russia pix3w
Blast events shouldn't count towards rankings
2022-11-28 18:47
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#3
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United States cr4zy_m3
C9 blast partner never
2022-11-28 18:47
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#4
KENSI | 
Russia pix3w
C9 would 2-0 almost every team there
2022-11-28 18:48
5 replies
Stop coping, and stop fake flagging.
2022-11-28 18:49
2 replies
#11
KENSI | 
Russia pix3w
Stop fake flagging!!! 🤓🤓🤓
2022-11-28 18:50
1 reply
Least cringe fake flagger.
2022-11-28 18:53
#66
nEGRo | 
Denmark 45ETY
except mouz xdd
2022-11-29 07:20
#68
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Sweden Mendiy
No?
2022-11-29 10:27
Yeah its sad, also blast isnt allowing them to participate for the showdown, else they wud have smacked these partner teams's asses.
2022-11-29 07:00
Then ESL shouldn't either, as they have the Louvre agreement.
2022-11-28 18:49
12 replies
#9
KENSI | 
Russia pix3w
At least you can get into their events with qualification
2022-11-28 18:50
10 replies
You can also get into the BLAST finals? This is how Fluxo qualified: hltv.org/events/6824/blast-premier-fall-..
2022-11-28 18:52
9 replies
#21
KENSI | 
Russia pix3w
After 2 qualifiers lol
2022-11-28 18:54
8 replies
#24
KENSI | 
Russia pix3w
While in the 2nd one some teams were invited
2022-11-28 18:57
7 replies
Thats how Katowice works as well. You qualify for qualifier and when you qualify trough 2nd qualifier you can play main event. So I dont know why you cry here about blast events.
2022-11-28 19:05
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#40
sh1ro | 
Other Paami
And you can qualify it directly through world ranking. And Kato is an event with 16 teams instead of only eight and only 2 teams out after group stage. Katowice 16 play-in -> 16 group stage w/t 8 directly invited through ranking instead of partner only qualifier -> 6 playoff BLAST seasonal final 8 group(one from Americas XD) -> 6 playoff. Imagine putting them together.
2022-11-28 20:00
5 replies
Katowice are tier 2 tournament in comparison with blast tbh. World Finals have the best teams based on achievements during the whole year, while Katowice has literally everyone around tier 2 who is able to win 2 games in play-in.
2022-11-28 20:03
4 replies
*shits pants* OG *does a frontflip* Sorry we don't have 32 tier 1 teams in the circut, next time i'll make sure to qualify so you can watch high tier cs ^^
2022-11-28 20:13
#46
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Russia YsvLive
>World Finals have the best teams based on achievements during the whole year >OG
2022-11-28 20:18
2 replies
There will always be speculations why this team isnt there, and why that team also isnt here... If C9 would be there, a lot of people would argue with ENCE etc. But the point is that those teams that deserve to be there are there. This year we had only Faze, Navi, and maybe Vitality that should be there no matter what. The rest of the teams are arguable. Why nobody argue why G2 is there for example? They did nothing except Katowice. Why nobody talks about Liquid, which have only fluke EPL final in their bag?
2022-11-28 20:40
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#58
sh1ro | 
Other Paami
LOL, saying TL only fluke EPL final. TL has been fine since Yekindar joined. They just had a bad start this year with shox. Cologne playoff and EPL and one step away from a major play-off. ENCE literally robbed by dumb partner teams like OG who achieved nothing outside BLAST circuit. People are asking why OG is there not why C9 isn't there. Do you even know how BLAST Leaderboard works and how ESL ranking works? And I am talking about BLAST seasonal finals why did you even mention BLAST world final
2022-11-28 22:48
blast is way more closed than esl
2022-11-28 18:54
#38
FASHR | 
France Ansi
i love blast but the system for earning points towards rankings is just crooked. snappi spoke about this on HLTV confirmed and this keeps haunting the rankings. Orgs with lesser budget are more or less doomed, and i dont think thats healthy.
2022-11-28 19:53
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#71
nexa | 
Serbia Xajgyk
Should have the rankings like in tennis. Every tournament is bringing points. Major - 2000 Teir1 - 1000 Teir2 - 500 Challengers - 250 Sponsored- 100 And based on that you get ranked. If you do not attend the tournament next year you loose the points you won previously. That can make some top teams maybe getting spot 1 by attending smaller tournaments and playing more CS events… don’t know…
2022-11-29 17:58
#54
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United States Azaqa
esl is the same lol, should it be only majors?
2022-11-28 21:18
weirdo
2022-11-28 21:19
#6
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Yugoslavia kingcys
Hopefully not, not right when Outsiders and Cloud9 and banned from Blast Partner
2022-11-28 18:49
12 replies
They are not banned, they just did not play the qual.
2022-11-28 18:50
11 replies
they were not allowed to participate in showdown as well due to conflict so he is right
2022-11-28 18:54
10 replies
What, that kinda shit..
2022-11-28 18:57
6 replies
yeah it sucks , there was a key difference between ESL and Blast decision regarding Russian players after conflict , ESL said they can participate under a neutral name but blast straight up DQ'd them . thats why when outsiders won everyone was saying blast is in big trouble cuz they might need to break their own "rules" for world finals
2022-11-28 19:00
5 replies
If c9 or VP was blast partner teams, they would allow them. But because they are not, they just care about their partner teams. Just like OG being dogshit the whole season, but by being top 6 in a show event two times they are now in world finals. But VP/outsiders will play the world finals?
2022-11-28 19:02
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3 replies
Then they could have done the qual for showdown as well..
2022-11-28 19:05
2 replies
they were praying for a heroic win at rio so they dont have to go to this route
2022-11-28 19:06
1 reply
But they could have tho
2022-11-28 19:06
#41
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Dominica FallczE
They weren't allowed to play under russian-oligarch owned/sponsored org. They were feel free to qualify under neutral name.
2022-11-28 20:02
1 reply
Actually no, weplay simply canceled cis quals, so not only c9 and outsiders took the damage and missed opportunity to play at showdown qual, potentially Ukrainian teams such as ec kyev and b8 missed that opportunity as well
2022-11-28 20:24
#56
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Europe jigglep33k
outsiders is playing next blast.
2022-11-28 22:09
#10
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India RycerZ
I hope not, just like #6. Its just not fair. But they got no choice.
2022-11-28 18:50
#13
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Poland Astoner55
Not neccesairly. I think Heroic will have around 900-950 points and outsiders will stay at 1000.
2022-11-28 18:51
2 replies
Maybe.
2022-11-28 18:54
this rank is a joke
2022-11-28 20:23
#16
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Finland AliSabid
Pretty sure staying at #2
2022-11-28 18:53
#18
ropz | 
Slovakia nvrn06
no
2022-11-28 18:54
narh, major counts as like 90% for the first 2 months or something
2022-11-28 18:54
ggs
2022-11-28 19:01
GEEEEE GEEEEEE
2022-11-28 19:01
EZ
2022-11-28 19:02
it happened omg
2022-11-28 19:03
deserved
2022-11-28 19:03
#37
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Asia BzeeL
Mickey mouse ranking
2022-11-28 19:49
#39
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Argentina Joedash
NaVi still in the top 5 after just beating fluxo in blast xd
2022-11-28 19:56
3 replies
They should be out of top 5 right after major, i dont know how they are still that high
2022-11-28 20:09
2 replies
#57
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Finland Lund666
+1
2022-11-28 22:17
#60
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Argentina Joedash
Me neither, its just nonsense, they've been the worst top 5 team so far.
2022-11-29 03:36
I like Heroic but wtf, lulquid +4 ? THIS RANK IS A JOKE
2022-11-28 20:23
HLTV JOKE
2022-11-28 20:23
If Outsiders gets relegated to #2 this fast, it should be testament to how bad they did before the major lol. Fall Finals > major I guess
2022-11-28 21:11
2 replies
Well, you need to take into account that Heroic came 2nd at the major too. 2nd at major + 1st a fall finals > 1st at major evidently.
2022-11-28 21:14
1 reply
Listen i understand your point. The problem is outsiders did not have a chance to even play at blast since they are banned. In what world you derank to heroic after beating heroic 2-0 at the major just couple weeks ago, while you had no chance to play? Come on this is such huge bs. Outsiders literally lost 130 points just because blast holded up a tournament for partnered teams. If i was a pro player i would be fuming. Yet people justify this. Not mentioning how much cloud 9 got deranked, and mouz lol. Even furia lost a position.
2022-11-28 22:58
liquid paying crazy money to hltv admins
2022-11-29 06:29
such a joke, they got violated by outsiders in the major finals. now #1 cause they won a tier 2 tournament
2022-11-29 06:35
2 replies
#63
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North America 007DBR9
this is the biggest cope I've read all year
2022-11-29 06:41
1 reply
not even OS fan. nothing i said is wrong
2022-11-29 17:32
Doesn't deserve to be top 1.
2022-11-29 06:43
cloud 9 better , destroyed them @ major
2022-11-29 10:26
deserved. Outsiders is a top10 team at best stop being delusional, largest fluke run in major history
2022-11-29 10:34
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