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biologicly born women cant compete, in 99% of sports, with biologicly born men.
in traditional sports its a growing trend, and lets just say the trans athletes are winning everything atm.
meanwhile in esports you could argue its not like traditional sports, but it 100% is. 0 females in the t1 scene in all of the big esports.
meanwhile, biologicly born women that worl their asses off trying to play sports, are getting smoked / replaced by a cheater, because its cheating.
just now, the valorant game changers (valorant women) took place
to be fair the rules do say you can be non binary / trans
but this is semmler's point: it ruins the integrity.
imgur.com/a/qXe6GX3
imgur.com/a/gGaa9h7
this is bob, a transgender, and was the highest rated player of the event.
TLDR:
first sentence
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I reported thread
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America—created Israel
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America is the bitch of Israel :P
this is bobs hltv if you're interested :) with his old alias
hltv.org/player/17232/senpaimadara
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LMAOOO I didn’t even realize
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same with olga in cs
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olga is a girl just like the rest of them
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Olga is trans.
I hate semmler and the cringeworthy wannabe edgelords on this site as much as any other person with a functioning brain that is capable of critical thinking, but you're arguing to a specific scenario.
If the judgement as to determine in which sports or competitions transgenders are allowed to compete for the "other" sex is whether they suddenly perform better than others, then that would severely invalidate any integrity that sport would have. Your logic is just bad.
Good point, but the way you structured your thoughts is fucking awful.
I don't care about this. If women have no problem with this and want to accept their own demise, then that's fine with me. Won't lose sleep over it.
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And ironically, in refusing to stand up they are osctracized nonetheless
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They are allowed to do anything they want. They choose not to. /close
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He is not wrong. J.K Rowling, a multi millionaire writer and possibly the most popular female author alive, has been "ostracized" and has been a target of cancel culture for a while now since she claimed that trans women should not be treated as regular women (Rowling is a known feminist and liberal, btw, not the same case as Semmler).
Imagine if some t6 female pro said anything similar, she'd go back to flipping burgers
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jk rowling is also blatantly racist and anti semitic and bigoted...
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You have no idea what you're talking about, unless you are memeing about "gremlins=jews"
Flair.
She is ostracized because she is bri*ish 🤢
I love how everybody is missing the point. Semmler wasn´t talking about "X group has an unfair advantaje over Y group", he was saying that trans woman shouldn´t play bc he thinks that the league isn´t for them. All this explanation is completly pointless
edit: Also, fuck semmler, he clearly have never talked with a trans person in his life and goes there faking to know any shit about us. Just dumb
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nice links
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flag and flair.
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ok pantsy boy.
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Good, let riot destroy the female scene who cares?
Valorant is to csgo as bob is to female pro players: a crude mockery of something pure
at some point the women will riot against these things surely? :)
How would you feel like a woman identify as a man go play against Simple? :) same? or nothing since it won't work as well?
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shut up noob
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Maybe I am not a noob
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Not sure I can be bothered continuing this intelligent conversation with you :)
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semmler is a prime example of how religion corrupts the mind
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lgbt is a prime example of how delusion corrupts the mind
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T is a prime example of how delusion corrupts the mind
LGB are fine
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i can get behind that, but i was just copypasting
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Based
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Just give trans players a few years and they will dominate all this Impact, GG leagues in CS and Valorant
bob looks like a hunchback
terrible post
what point are you even trying to make here? What biological advantages to men have over women when it comes to playing counter strike?
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1) Men are more competitive than women. The average woman is less competitive than the average man.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9639863/
hbr.org/2019/11/research-how-men-and-wom..
2) Visual and auditory reaction times
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4456887..
And many other "biological advantages" in cs and i can give you more examples, but i look at your flag and the fact you don't know basic biology and i understand that it's pointless for me to continue. But my examples are enough to separate them
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Lol,
first study you linked is based on what university students wrote themselves in their journals in the 90's. Second link you posted is in regards to a study of women in the WORKPLACE, you could argue CSGO is a workplace, but comparing an office environment to a competitive sporting environment is a stretch at best so the study doesn't really tell us much in reference to the original argument
The third study also states that participants who exercised more had better auditory and visual reaction times than those participants who were sedentary, should we create a separate, fat person league as well as they are 'biologically' at a disadvantage? We shouldn't let those who exercise and have a better reaction time play with those genetically predisposed fatsos! thats unfair!!
On top of this, the biologically female players are on average better than any trans player right now, so what are we even arguing here?
p.s very rich of your flag to be talking about education standards LMAO
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out of over 20 years of esports being mainstream there hasnt been more than 10 female pros who have made it to the top in smash, halo, cs, dota, LOL. quake, cod, and OW
More girls play csgo than the population of baltic countries
yeah I think there is more than culture as to why girls blow at csgo
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out of over 132 years of netball existing, there hasn't been more than 10 male pros who have made it to the top
See, my statement is dumb, because the ratio of females to men playing netball is ridiculous, and netball is culturally a more popular with females. See where I'm going with this in relation to counter-strike?
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I want to state that comparing netball and csgo is not a great example. Netball WAS created for females "Netball is a ball sport played on a court by two teams of seven players. It is among a rare number of sports which have been created exclusively for female competitors". Just searched netball and that was the first thing I saw/read. Though it could be different now, csgo was never created just for guys. Girls have always been able to compete in csgo but have guys always been able to play netball, not so much.
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Counterstrike was 100% created and marketed towards men
and I know the statement is not a great example, i literally said my statement is dumb, thats my point
1) Read full version of first study. And you can check other studies of Cashdan and many other about this topic. At least just fucking google "are men more competitive than women"
2) "On top of this, the biologically female players are on average better than any trans player right now, so what are we even arguing here?" Only 2 trans players in CS pro scene and a few in Valorant, but you talk about average? And yeah best "female" cs player - trans, best "female" valorant player - trans
3) even despite the sad state now, but in the past the educational system in USSR was one of the best, so we have it's remnants. But Australia has never been famous for its educational system, especially considering the modern censorship in your science
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good job on backing up your linked study that you've so clearly read with "just fucking google it" lol
if theres only 2 trans players in the csgo pro scene, and they're not even the best, what are you whinging about? clearly they aren't biologically better. The best female csgo player isn't even trans
classic russian move, "b..b..but the USSR!!" the past does not constitute the future, which is especially unfortunate for you
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About cs trans players
1) I wrote about Olga already. Olga is trans, Olga is support rifler IGL and she perform like Ana.
Better team for Olga = she will outperform Ana
Better role for Olga = she will outperform Ana
2) Second trans player garden played his first lan, he don't have any experience and even hours in cs if you compare him to any Nigma, Furia player. And it's only first year for scene, in future transformers will dominate in leagues
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Garden has been playing since February 2022 and has a 0.80 rating average? Garden also played terribly on LAN?
Russian try post a single coherent comment challenge: Impossible
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You compare garden with 9 months in pro scene with 8k hours to
Vilga - 15 years in pro, more than 10k hours
Ana - 7 years in pro, more than 10k hours
Kat - 1 year pro
Twenty - 3 years pro, more than 10k hours
Tory - 5 years pro
And as i said it's only first year, in future transformers will dominate even more
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you're basing this off the assumption that garden is going to be the best female csgo pro no matter what? They suck now, theres a good chance they'll suck in the future. Nothing about Garden gives off the idea that they're a future star lol
i'll say it again, the past does not constitute the future
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They suck now? Best players in CS & Valorant - transformers
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third time you've made the transformers joke and nobodies pointed it out as funny yet, maybe in another thread
Garden sucks, and will most likely never be better than Ana
/thread transphobe
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not even joke lol, im shocked that you turn a blind eye to facts just to defend transformers
Compare Olga to any female player or Bob to any female valorant player
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BiBiahn (female) > Olga
Ana (female) > Olga
Vilga (female) > Olga
i dont give a shit about valorant sorry
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Olga - 1.32 rating rifler IGL support
Bibiahn - 1.47 rating entry
Ana - 1.08 awp
Vilga - 0.96 entry
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if olga thought she would get better stats in entry/awp role she would probably ask for another role, and if her team knows she will clearly outperform (because for some reason men>women in computer games, don't know why you think that) they would give her entry role. why would she handicap herself by playing a worse role?
Oh wait, she plays best as igl support!
Wow...
a 10ms faster reaction time whether a boy or girl doesnt make a difference in a 5 player game that isnt solely about aim. Bob's team and KP's didnt win, misfits didnt even qualify for the GC championship with 2 transgender players so there shouldnt be a reasonable argument that it ruins integrity.
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"Bob's team and KP's didnt win" - imagine a team in future with 5 players like bob
"misfits didnt even qualify for the GC championship with 2 transgender players so there shouldnt be a reasonable argument that it ruins integrity." - there may be other factors why they lost. The average woman is less competitive than the average man.
Best "female" player in Valorant? Trans
Best "female" player in CS? Trans
Coincidence? And with the development of the scene transformers will dominate even more
But your flag, flair:)
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The best female cs player isn't even trans? lol
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Olga (Furia fe player) - trans
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Olga isn't trans, and she isn't even the best? Lmao
hltv.org/player/12758/ana
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1.08 rating ana and 1.32 Olga
Ana - awp
Olga - rifler support IGL
Esl impact season 1 = best player Ana 1.36, second Olga 1.29
Esl Impact Valencia = best player Olga 1.41, Ana 1.40
Esl Impact Season 2 = best player Ana, Olga 4th
And every final Nigma 2:0 over Furia
So now imagine better role for Olga or awp role and she will outperform Ana really hard
Imagine if karrigan and apex performed like s1mple or Zywoo.
And yeah Olga is trans
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you're just proving my point
if Olga was such a good support/igl, she wouldn't be getting 2-0'd by Anas team every tournament
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you're just proving my point that Australia have a huge problem
Results of Furia Fe doesn't mean that Ana>Olga, just in general Nigma have better players, more experience and hours in cs.
According to your logic
Jame>Cadian>S1mple>Zywoo
Olga is rlfler support IGL and Ana awp, without any doubt Olga - best player in female cs
liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Olga
Check trivia
flag, flair:)
The women in the scene won’t speak up about this because people are already looking down on the female scene as being pointless and just free money for low level players. How would it look if females started complaining that a few trans are playing in their league? It would just enforce the ideea that they’re looking to seclude themselves in this low skilled bubble.
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And they will be fired from teams for speaking up and banned from their league
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Having a different opinion than you does not make someone "deeply mentally ill", calling someone that does make you though, I believe.
if someone is competing as a dude, then transitions, and suddenly appears in womens leagues then that looks sus to me. If they were openly trans through all of their career then it seems a bit harsh to exclude them. I'd have a waiting period in the rules like if you come out as trans you wait 12 months before you can compete.
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well that's a red flag for me, was that even after the league was announced?
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He played in the regular league before, this is an old match for example
vlr.gg/68730/soniqs-vs-luminosity-champi..
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oh, I don't follow valorant, thought it was someone in impact league, still doesn't look good
Oh
im just waiting for a full trans team to form and destroy everyone in women league to prove semmlers point.
Waiting for full trans "women" team to absolutely dumpster the whole league which then proceeds to all the gurls complaining :D
who cares, let the world burn xd
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