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semmler
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Israel michnass 
biologicly born women cant compete, in 99% of sports, with biologicly born men. in traditional sports its a growing trend, and lets just say the trans athletes are winning everything atm. meanwhile in esports you could argue its not like traditional sports, but it 100% is. 0 females in the t1 scene in all of the big esports. meanwhile, biologicly born women that worl their asses off trying to play sports, are getting smoked / replaced by a cheater, because its cheating. just now, the valorant game changers (valorant women) took place to be fair the rules do say you can be non binary / trans but this is semmler's point: it ruins the integrity. imgur.com/a/qXe6GX3 imgur.com/a/gGaa9h7 this is bob, a transgender, and was the highest rated player of the event. TLDR: first sentence
2022-11-28 20:13
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#1
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Brazil ricca
alright then
2022-11-28 20:15
3 replies
I reported thread
2022-11-29 04:00
2 replies
stop spam
2022-11-30 01:42
1 reply
cant stop me 😎
2022-11-30 12:47
#2
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United States cr4zy_m3
To much words didn’t read
2022-11-28 20:17
4 replies
#3
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Israel michnass
america
2022-11-28 20:18
3 replies
America—created Israel
2022-11-29 04:02
2 replies
#100
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Sweden O7D
+1
2022-11-29 04:42
America is the bitch of Israel :P
2022-11-30 01:47
this is a horribly formulated post
2022-11-28 20:18
#5
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Niger btlvl1
this is bobs hltv if you're interested :) with his old alias hltv.org/player/17232/senpaimadara
2022-11-28 20:21
8 replies
#11
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Israel michnass
was too bad in pro cs, went to valorant. too bad in pro valorant, went to play game changers
2022-11-28 20:25
1 reply
he was ok at cs but it just proves even unknown player in tier 2-3 australia can be the best ''female'' player in the world for valorant and probably csgo too
2022-11-28 20:27
#102
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Sweden O7D
interesting surname...
2022-11-29 04:43
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#119
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India LRAD
LUL
2022-11-29 06:41
LMAOOO I didn’t even realize
2022-11-29 07:02
ironic isn't it aha
2022-11-29 21:49
1 reply
#131
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Sweden O7D
yes, but its also vietnam simulator, either Nguyen, Tran, Pham or something else with Ng/V (eg: Vo, Vu, Ngo) i swear they have like 15 surnames in total
2022-11-30 01:38
KEK
2022-11-30 12:47
#6
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United States cybonics
spaghetti format
2022-11-28 20:22
#7
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Russia _oxyorum_
this post is hard to read, but i agree with your opinion
2022-11-28 20:22
#8
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Russia Sviddaniye
same with olga in cs
2022-11-28 20:22
3 replies
olga is a girl just like the rest of them
2022-11-28 20:24
2 replies
Olga is trans.
2022-11-28 21:02
#56
clowN | 
Other w0rId
Kapp
2022-11-28 21:53
I hate semmler and the cringeworthy wannabe edgelords on this site as much as any other person with a functioning brain that is capable of critical thinking, but you're arguing to a specific scenario. If the judgement as to determine in which sports or competitions transgenders are allowed to compete for the "other" sex is whether they suddenly perform better than others, then that would severely invalidate any integrity that sport would have. Your logic is just bad.
2022-11-28 20:23
#12
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Germany Germen
show bobs and vagene
2022-11-28 20:25
Good point, but the way you structured your thoughts is fucking awful.
2022-11-28 20:26
1 reply
#17
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Israel michnass
ok i wont be a journalist
2022-11-28 20:28
I don't care about this. If women have no problem with this and want to accept their own demise, then that's fine with me. Won't lose sleep over it.
2022-11-28 20:27
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#18
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Israel michnass
ok
2022-11-28 20:28
this
2022-11-28 20:39
women never stand up for themselves in fear of being ostracized from the pack
2022-11-28 20:46
1 reply
#35
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Canada MungoJerry
And ironically, in refusing to stand up they are osctracized nonetheless
2022-11-28 20:50
They are not allowed to speak up or they are destroyed
2022-11-28 21:05
9 replies
They are allowed to do anything they want. They choose not to. /close
2022-11-28 21:10
8 replies
If they spoke against this, they could be kicked for speaking up. Clown world
2022-11-28 21:27
1 reply
#57
clowN | 
Other w0rId
u called?
2022-11-28 21:54
He is not wrong. J.K Rowling, a multi millionaire writer and possibly the most popular female author alive, has been "ostracized" and has been a target of cancel culture for a while now since she claimed that trans women should not be treated as regular women (Rowling is a known feminist and liberal, btw, not the same case as Semmler). Imagine if some t6 female pro said anything similar, she'd go back to flipping burgers
2022-11-29 02:37
5 replies
jk rowling is also blatantly racist and anti semitic and bigoted...
2022-11-29 05:47
3 replies
#113
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Israel michnass
Bot
2022-11-29 06:20
You have no idea what you're talking about, unless you are memeing about "gremlins=jews"
2022-11-29 11:04
Flair.
2022-11-30 01:48
She is ostracized because she is bri*ish 🤢
2022-11-30 02:19
+1 this.
2022-11-28 22:08
I love how everybody is missing the point. Semmler wasn´t talking about "X group has an unfair advantaje over Y group", he was saying that trans woman shouldn´t play bc he thinks that the league isn´t for them. All this explanation is completly pointless edit: Also, fuck semmler, he clearly have never talked with a trans person in his life and goes there faking to know any shit about us. Just dumb
2022-11-28 20:29
7 replies
ywnbaw
2022-11-28 20:41
1 reply
Luckily i will never live in your country, cheers
2022-11-29 14:14
#70
nitr0 | 
United States Zake_
He’s right. There should be a trans league because thats what they claim to be.
2022-11-29 02:50
"about us" L
2022-11-29 03:12
1 reply
2022-11-29 14:15
#104
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Sweden O7D
0/8
2022-11-29 04:45
1 reply
Reply needs to have actual content
2022-11-29 14:15
nice links
2022-11-28 20:30
4 replies
#21
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Israel michnass
ye ask hltv guy
2022-11-28 20:34
3 replies
try putting https in front imgur.com/a/gGaa9h7
2022-11-28 21:01
2 replies
#49
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Israel michnass
ye i just copy pasted it that was the problem
2022-11-28 21:03
1 reply
happens to the best of us
2022-11-28 21:04
flag and flair.
2022-11-28 20:31
4 replies
#22
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Israel michnass
flag
2022-11-28 20:34
3 replies
ok pantsy boy.
2022-11-28 20:34
2 replies
#24
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Israel michnass
*flushes*
2022-11-28 20:35
1 reply
i believe in ANa superiority
2022-11-28 20:39
who cars, the biological women are the ones pushing for this anyway let them face the consequences firsthand
2022-11-28 20:38
1 reply
+1
2022-11-28 22:09
#30
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Canada MungoJerry
Good, let riot destroy the female scene who cares? Valorant is to csgo as bob is to female pro players: a crude mockery of something pure
2022-11-28 20:40
at some point the women will riot against these things surely? :) How would you feel like a woman identify as a man go play against Simple? :) same? or nothing since it won't work as well?
2022-11-28 20:42
12 replies
shut up noob
2022-11-28 20:56
7 replies
Maybe I am not a noob
2022-11-28 20:57
6 replies
2022-11-28 20:58
5 replies
2022-11-28 20:58
4 replies
2022-11-28 20:58
3 replies
Not sure I can be bothered continuing this intelligent conversation with you :)
2022-11-28 21:02
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2022-11-28 21:02
1 reply
#106
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Sweden O7D
+1111 lmfao
2022-11-29 04:47
I really don´t understand why she receive so much hate, like u notice how most people on the scene like her but for some reason people say a lot of shit even after she talked about how bad is this hate for her
2022-11-28 22:13
2 replies
#107
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Sweden O7D
i don't think people who hate on Bob really care what effect it has
2022-11-29 04:48
1 reply
ok, u got a point
2022-11-29 14:16
#130
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North America 007DBR9
t1 cs isn't mens only, it just ends up being mens only because you know why, if it was specifically mens only then that still wouldn't be right.
2022-11-30 00:44
#36
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African Union whybecause
semmler is a prime example of how religion corrupts the mind
2022-11-28 20:50
11 replies
HUH?
2022-11-28 20:55
lgbt is a prime example of how delusion corrupts the mind
2022-11-28 21:00
6 replies
T is a prime example of how delusion corrupts the mind LGB are fine
2022-11-29 03:00
4 replies
i can get behind that, but i was just copypasting
2022-11-29 05:33
+1111111111111111111
2022-11-29 06:07
#114
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Israel michnass
Based
2022-11-29 06:22
Based
2022-11-29 14:20
Based
2022-11-29 04:46
#53
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Slovakia VladO.
I doubt that his argument had anything to do with religion, though
2022-11-28 21:12
1 reply
#108
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Sweden O7D
+1, i really dont think its just because of religion lol
2022-11-29 04:49
#58
clowN | 
Other w0rId
HUH
2022-11-28 21:55
#40
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Russia Sviddaniye
Just give trans players a few years and they will dominate all this Impact, GG leagues in CS and Valorant
2022-11-28 20:58
Semmler spot on once again. Sucks that he has to get all this hate just for going against the ways of culture. These female leagues need to be far more exclusive if they're ever going to be as good and fair as normal, male-dominated leagues.
2022-11-28 21:14
bob looks like a hunchback
2022-11-28 22:16
terrible post what point are you even trying to make here? What biological advantages to men have over women when it comes to playing counter strike?
2022-11-29 02:00
21 replies
#66
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Russia Sviddaniye
1) Men are more competitive than women. The average woman is less competitive than the average man. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9639863/ hbr.org/2019/11/research-how-men-and-wom.. 2) Visual and auditory reaction times ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4456887.. And many other "biological advantages" in cs and i can give you more examples, but i look at your flag and the fact you don't know basic biology and i understand that it's pointless for me to continue. But my examples are enough to separate them
2022-11-29 02:27
19 replies
Lol, first study you linked is based on what university students wrote themselves in their journals in the 90's. Second link you posted is in regards to a study of women in the WORKPLACE, you could argue CSGO is a workplace, but comparing an office environment to a competitive sporting environment is a stretch at best so the study doesn't really tell us much in reference to the original argument The third study also states that participants who exercised more had better auditory and visual reaction times than those participants who were sedentary, should we create a separate, fat person league as well as they are 'biologically' at a disadvantage? We shouldn't let those who exercise and have a better reaction time play with those genetically predisposed fatsos! thats unfair!! On top of this, the biologically female players are on average better than any trans player right now, so what are we even arguing here? p.s very rich of your flag to be talking about education standards LMAO
2022-11-29 02:55
18 replies
out of over 20 years of esports being mainstream there hasnt been more than 10 female pros who have made it to the top in smash, halo, cs, dota, LOL. quake, cod, and OW More girls play csgo than the population of baltic countries yeah I think there is more than culture as to why girls blow at csgo
2022-11-29 03:02
4 replies
out of over 132 years of netball existing, there hasn't been more than 10 male pros who have made it to the top See, my statement is dumb, because the ratio of females to men playing netball is ridiculous, and netball is culturally a more popular with females. See where I'm going with this in relation to counter-strike?
2022-11-29 03:12
3 replies
#138
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North America altoist2
I want to state that comparing netball and csgo is not a great example. Netball WAS created for females "Netball is a ball sport played on a court by two teams of seven players. It is among a rare number of sports which have been created exclusively for female competitors". Just searched netball and that was the first thing I saw/read. Though it could be different now, csgo was never created just for guys. Girls have always been able to compete in csgo but have guys always been able to play netball, not so much.
2022-11-30 02:16
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#141
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North America altoist2
Also also after doing more research on netball it is indeed the dumbest sport I have seen. It was purely made for women to be a non-contact form of basketball.
2022-11-30 02:21
Counterstrike was 100% created and marketed towards men and I know the statement is not a great example, i literally said my statement is dumb, thats my point
2022-11-30 12:44
#78
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Russia Sviddaniye
1) Read full version of first study. And you can check other studies of Cashdan and many other about this topic. At least just fucking google "are men more competitive than women" 2) "On top of this, the biologically female players are on average better than any trans player right now, so what are we even arguing here?" Only 2 trans players in CS pro scene and a few in Valorant, but you talk about average? And yeah best "female" cs player - trans, best "female" valorant player - trans 3) even despite the sad state now, but in the past the educational system in USSR was one of the best, so we have it's remnants. But Australia has never been famous for its educational system, especially considering the modern censorship in your science
2022-11-29 03:18
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good job on backing up your linked study that you've so clearly read with "just fucking google it" lol if theres only 2 trans players in the csgo pro scene, and they're not even the best, what are you whinging about? clearly they aren't biologically better. The best female csgo player isn't even trans classic russian move, "b..b..but the USSR!!" the past does not constitute the future, which is especially unfortunate for you
2022-11-29 03:21
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#84
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Russia Sviddaniye
About cs trans players 1) I wrote about Olga already. Olga is trans, Olga is support rifler IGL and she perform like Ana. Better team for Olga = she will outperform Ana Better role for Olga = she will outperform Ana 2) Second trans player garden played his first lan, he don't have any experience and even hours in cs if you compare him to any Nigma, Furia player. And it's only first year for scene, in future transformers will dominate in leagues
2022-11-29 03:35
10 replies
Garden has been playing since February 2022 and has a 0.80 rating average? Garden also played terribly on LAN? Russian try post a single coherent comment challenge: Impossible
2022-11-29 03:39
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#89
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Russia Sviddaniye
You compare garden with 9 months in pro scene with 8k hours to Vilga - 15 years in pro, more than 10k hours Ana - 7 years in pro, more than 10k hours Kat - 1 year pro Twenty - 3 years pro, more than 10k hours Tory - 5 years pro And as i said it's only first year, in future transformers will dominate even more
2022-11-29 03:55
4 replies
you're basing this off the assumption that garden is going to be the best female csgo pro no matter what? They suck now, theres a good chance they'll suck in the future. Nothing about Garden gives off the idea that they're a future star lol i'll say it again, the past does not constitute the future
2022-11-29 04:29
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#97
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Russia Sviddaniye
They suck now? Best players in CS & Valorant - transformers
2022-11-29 04:34
2 replies
third time you've made the transformers joke and nobodies pointed it out as funny yet, maybe in another thread Garden sucks, and will most likely never be better than Ana /thread transphobe
2022-11-29 04:35
1 reply
not even joke lol, im shocked that you turn a blind eye to facts just to defend transformers
2022-11-29 04:43
#90
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Russia Sviddaniye
Compare Olga to any female player or Bob to any female valorant player
2022-11-29 03:56
3 replies
BiBiahn (female) > Olga Ana (female) > Olga Vilga (female) > Olga i dont give a shit about valorant sorry
2022-11-29 04:32
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#99
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Russia Sviddaniye
Olga - 1.32 rating rifler IGL support Bibiahn - 1.47 rating entry Ana - 1.08 awp Vilga - 0.96 entry
2022-11-29 04:40
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#115
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Canada pulmig
if olga thought she would get better stats in entry/awp role she would probably ask for another role, and if her team knows she will clearly outperform (because for some reason men>women in computer games, don't know why you think that) they would give her entry role. why would she handicap herself by playing a worse role? Oh wait, she plays best as igl support!
2022-11-29 06:26
Wow...
2022-11-29 02:36
a 10ms faster reaction time whether a boy or girl doesnt make a difference in a 5 player game that isnt solely about aim. Bob's team and KP's didnt win, misfits didnt even qualify for the GC championship with 2 transgender players so there shouldnt be a reasonable argument that it ruins integrity.
2022-11-29 02:05
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#69
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Russia Sviddaniye
"Bob's team and KP's didnt win" - imagine a team in future with 5 players like bob "misfits didnt even qualify for the GC championship with 2 transgender players so there shouldnt be a reasonable argument that it ruins integrity." - there may be other factors why they lost. The average woman is less competitive than the average man. Best "female" player in Valorant? Trans Best "female" player in CS? Trans Coincidence? And with the development of the scene transformers will dominate even more But your flag, flair:)
2022-11-29 02:38
8 replies
The best female cs player isn't even trans? lol
2022-11-29 02:58
6 replies
#79
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Russia Sviddaniye
Olga (Furia fe player) - trans
2022-11-29 03:20
5 replies
Olga isn't trans, and she isn't even the best? Lmao hltv.org/player/12758/ana
2022-11-29 03:22
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#82
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Russia Sviddaniye
1.08 rating ana and 1.32 Olga Ana - awp Olga - rifler support IGL Esl impact season 1 = best player Ana 1.36, second Olga 1.29 Esl Impact Valencia = best player Olga 1.41, Ana 1.40 Esl Impact Season 2 = best player Ana, Olga 4th And every final Nigma 2:0 over Furia So now imagine better role for Olga or awp role and she will outperform Ana really hard Imagine if karrigan and apex performed like s1mple or Zywoo. And yeah Olga is trans
2022-11-29 03:28
2 replies
you're just proving my point if Olga was such a good support/igl, she wouldn't be getting 2-0'd by Anas team every tournament
2022-11-29 03:35
1 reply
#88
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Russia Sviddaniye
you're just proving my point that Australia have a huge problem Results of Furia Fe doesn't mean that Ana>Olga, just in general Nigma have better players, more experience and hours in cs. According to your logic Jame>Cadian>S1mple>Zywoo Olga is rlfler support IGL and Ana awp, without any doubt Olga - best player in female cs
2022-11-29 03:46
#86
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Russia Sviddaniye
2022-11-29 03:38
flag, flair:)
2022-11-29 03:02
The women in the scene won’t speak up about this because people are already looking down on the female scene as being pointless and just free money for low level players. How would it look if females started complaining that a few trans are playing in their league? It would just enforce the ideea that they’re looking to seclude themselves in this low skilled bubble.
2022-11-29 03:30
1 reply
And they will be fired from teams for speaking up and banned from their league
2022-11-29 04:44
+1
2022-11-29 04:18
semmler also believes in literal demons and shit hes a deeply mentally ill 40 year old maybe his opinions dont mean much
2022-11-29 04:33
1 reply
Having a different opinion than you does not make someone "deeply mentally ill", calling someone that does make you though, I believe.
2022-11-30 01:51
if someone is competing as a dude, then transitions, and suddenly appears in womens leagues then that looks sus to me. If they were openly trans through all of their career then it seems a bit harsh to exclude them. I'd have a waiting period in the rules like if you come out as trans you wait 12 months before you can compete.
2022-11-29 05:29
5 replies
#116
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Israel michnass
Bob is trans for like 4 months
2022-11-29 06:28
4 replies
well that's a red flag for me, was that even after the league was announced?
2022-11-29 06:34
2 replies
#118
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Israel michnass
He played in the regular league before, this is an old match for example vlr.gg/68730/soniqs-vs-luminosity-champi..
2022-11-29 06:39
1 reply
oh, I don't follow valorant, thought it was someone in impact league, still doesn't look good
2022-11-29 06:43
Oh
2022-11-30 02:13
im just waiting for a full trans team to form and destroy everyone in women league to prove semmlers point.
2022-11-29 07:06
Waiting for full trans "women" team to absolutely dumpster the whole league which then proceeds to all the gurls complaining :D
2022-11-30 01:52
who cares, let the world burn xd
2022-11-30 02:18
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