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Germany Termodynamicslad 
Well of course, because most teams got effectively worse in 2021 Teams that got better: Heroic(2nd season); Faze; Liquid(2nd season) Teams that got worse G2(lol) ; Navi ;Vitality ;C9/Gambit ;Astralis; NIP; Even the players got worse hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2021-01.. Niko, S1mple, Zywoo Electronic 2021 >> 2022 Device bailed out from the scene so this already makes the average skill smaller Just because Navi was dominating it doesn't mean that the other teams were bad.
2022-11-28 23:58
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got worse in 2022*
2022-11-28 23:59
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Nifty | 
Bahamas Jam18
stats dont tell the whole story dude. sure teams ratings went down but that doesnt mean that their individual skill went down. actually means that that it IS more competative since great ratings are harder to get
2022-11-29 00:00
27 replies
Navi went to shit after removing boombl4, thats fact Vitality went to shit after going international. Even zywoo fell off pretty hard in the beggining. Just check their trophies last year Niko was GODLIKE last year. NIP is obviously worse without device.
2022-11-29 00:02
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Uruguay sebastianuy
g2 sucks since hooxi tinychad
2022-11-29 00:08
16 replies
g2 sucks since aleksi came in, their results were way worse than with nexa.
2022-11-29 00:09
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Uruguay sebastianuy
indeed removing nexa was a bad move but they played a really good bo5 final in katowice against faze, every map was close af and faze was kinda on form
2022-11-29 00:12
11 replies
Then, grouped at EPL, grouped at major, grouped at cologne, grouped at dallas.
2022-11-29 00:13
7 replies
i dont think aleksib was the problem as i dont think hooxi was a solution of any kind
2022-11-29 00:14
6 replies
Not the point, g2 got worse with aleksib, regardless of what the reason was. G2 is worse this year than last year, thats the facts.
2022-11-29 00:15
5 replies
yeah but g2 didnt improve at all after hooxi, they didnt even qualy for rio... even worse than grouping in tourneys, the problem is that they seem to not be able to find the right piece to exploit talents like niko and m0nesy
2022-11-29 00:18
4 replies
I don't give a fuck, stay on topic, please.
2022-11-29 00:18
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Let me guide ur tiny brain, I said that g2 sucks since hooxi, you are saying g2 got worse after nexa with aleksib, and i'm saying that they are even worse now with hooxi than with aleksib, topic is still the same g2 sucks compared to 2021 and its getting worse every month. We agree that the nexa departure was bad, lets end with that
2022-11-29 00:21
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The point is that g2 is worse in the entirety of 2022 than the entirety of 2021, hooxi, aleksi, bald guy, monesy, that does not matter, what matters is that they're weaker. Read the op.
2022-11-29 00:39
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I dont know why they got worse but this isnt the most competitive era imo, idk is that what u state on this thread but if it is I agree... Vitality and astralis are gonna come back stronger next year tho, mark my words... and as soon as navi changes sdy and gets one tourney of practice they will be the best team again
2022-11-29 00:53
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Canada MungoJerry
nexa LEFT. Never forget that
2022-11-29 10:01
2 replies
they swapped him with aleksi
2022-11-29 15:02
1 reply
but nexa wanted to go, that's the important part
2022-11-29 19:42
people blaiming g2 for nexa leaving like he didnt leav on his own cuz he didnt want to igl
2022-11-29 13:17
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I don't care, they got worse.
2022-11-29 13:23
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Netherlands arTvamp
true true
2022-11-30 11:41
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United States 1Tuurtle
" Just check their trophies last year" Vita won one event last year. and looking at the notes, it seems they also have won 1 event this year.
2022-11-29 00:19
4 replies
yeah i should have said "Check their Tournament placings"
2022-11-29 00:48
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Maybe this means that zhe scene is more competetive after all if french vitality where it was basically just zywoo playing with a bunch of players who couldnt really hold their own vs top 5/10 opposition had higher placements than vitality with spinx, magisk and dupreeh instead of kyojin, shox and misutaa lol
2022-11-29 07:57
2 replies
Basically my point in #65
2022-11-29 10:40
Oh yeah the change to international which zywoo did a very sizeable drop in rating had nothing to do. With it. In the 1st half of the year, the only team who did a roster move and became better was faze. G2 sucked, vitality sucked, c9 sucked to the point of being eliminated by imperial. Outsiders with yekindar sucked. Forget spinx dude, he is just now in vitality, what about the rest of the fucking year? They were garbage.
2022-11-29 13:32
Aren't niko and s1mple both like 25 now. The prime last usually until 24 years of age if you believe hltv
2022-11-29 00:45
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Bro do u seriously think some magic happens in your brain when you tutn 25? The difference is not noticable
2022-11-29 10:53
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No it was a hltv article where all top players were in their prime they were in the ages of 21-24. S1mple wat top1-2 all those 4 5 years years (2018-2022). Niko is closely as well. hltv.org/news/33610/when-do-counter-stri..
2022-11-29 11:34
I think it's safe to say that the level were higher during Corona. The players simply had more time to practice.
2022-11-29 12:07
2016-2017 the best time cs
2022-11-29 00:01
5 replies
2015-2017 and deal
2022-11-29 00:17
4 replies
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United States 1Tuurtle
2015-early 2018 and deal
2022-11-29 00:19
3 replies
deal
2022-11-29 00:53
2007-2010 best cs time deal
2022-11-29 12:18
we forget 2018 happened and deal
2022-11-29 13:20
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Germany Germen
The stats of players are normed by the average, if the top players got worse rating then there is explanations. Either the players got worse, or the average player got better. You can't prove either way without looking at the actual gameplay
2022-11-29 00:02
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You can just watch the games. Zywoo had a very weak 1st half, most likely due to language change S1mple is very VISUALLY playing worse Niko's 2nd half performance is also clearly worse than what he displayed at stockholm major. The point still stands about the teams getting worse, thats pretty clear. G2, Navi, vitality and NIP being the most blatant cases.
2022-11-29 00:11
16 replies
s1mple is mad that he has to play with a bot filling on his team
2022-11-29 00:13
Zywoo still playing well S1mple has got to fix his own mental issues Niko plays good but obv not as good as he did with nexa Nip? Lol the team was and still is playoffs contender, they weren’t insane in 2021, had one good rmr tourney. G2 is a funny one bc to me they were always shit, which is even more funny bc they actually reached major finals with that lineup, no awper, shit t side, jackz hunter issues etc. No one was calling that team insane or something and still with their many problems they reached a lot, that would be harder in 2022 lets be honest. Navi sure dominated but just can’t outaim everyone anymore, thats not gonna happen, would you say that boombl4 was a good igl? Please. They also had like 2 top 10 riflers and the best awper, no other team had this much firepower. Vitality? Bro, have you seen their lineup in 2021 and now? They had rpk, shox, misutaaa, kyojin…like cmon man. That team right now would be in dumpster. A lot of teams got better, a lot of teams have got better firepower, the scene is always going up. Look, navi was good in 2021 but if vitality was like top3 for a whole year with that tragic roster, I wouldn’t dare to call that year more competitive. There was like 3-5 good teams, now there feels like a lot more complete teams. In 2021 basically every team had lineup problems
2022-11-29 10:47
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The avg firepower on some teams is insane rn. Heroic, Outsiders, Faze, C9 Navi, Vita, G2 (latter 2 on paper), liquid, even mouz. Oh and i forgot furia. You will have a hard time winning games on your own as s1mple, zywoo, niko etc.
2022-11-29 11:45
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Exactly
2022-11-29 12:14
There is a huge amount of problem for you to say the only thing that matters is firepower. G2 increased firepower massively and got worse. G2 had the best rated trio of stars and still sucked. Heroic only added jabbi in June and took a while to get going. What is the justification for vitality, G2 and c9 to get grouped in the 1st half over and over again? Because imperial and FURIA are top teams now?
2022-11-29 13:19
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Oh my god, where the fuck did I say that firepower was the only thing that matters? It absolutely do matter, but obviously it’s not the only thing that matters in a team lol. Majority of top teams now have great firepower, g2 is an example that it’s not only firepower that matters, doesn’t mean that 5 karrigans would win against 5 nikos. You take g2 as an example but ignore all other top teams? What about navi cloud9 faze heroic liquid etc What’s the justification? They were more shit than other teams, maybe they were more countered, maybe a bad day, also upsets happen all the time in all of the sports. Imperial didn’t do shit, that’s a bait. Furia has good firepower but like I said it’s not the only thing AND a lot of teams have sick riflers and awpers nowadays. The gap between top20 is always shrinking bit by bit
2022-11-29 13:47
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You simply argue that because vitality had worse players on paper, that they should have gotten better with Magisk and dupreeh, and if they didn't, it's because the competition increased, hence why I asked you why the fuck only firepower matter to decide this here. Also imperial eliminated C9 in Antwerp, that's a FACT. The 1st half of 2022 was full of shit teams, no wonder faze ran through it.
2022-11-29 13:54
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I mean, I think a lot of people could agree that they did get better Ok and Saudi Arabia beat Argentina. Fuck off with this logic
2022-11-29 13:58
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On the 1st half of 2022 they were objectively worse. That serves to say that Argentina isn't as good as they were before, same can be said for C9.
2022-11-29 14:00
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Yup they were worse introducing a new lineup, why? Maybe because they knew that previous one was even shittier? Lets be honest, no one would take misutaaa and kyojin over dupreeh im sorry. Are they a worse team overall vs 2021? If you say by achievements then sure I don’t like that argument at all
2022-11-29 14:10
NIP literally had a trophy and multiple top placements. You seriously is going to argue that a team with plopski, stand in and no awper the whole year on top of having worse results is still good without fucking device? For fucks sake.
2022-11-29 13:28
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Yup they had rmr event win when navi was dominating, crazy stuff bro. They reached finals on iem winter and got to the playoffs on majors, just like I said in my comment haha. And nip is still pretty consistent, are they good imo? Nope but they reach playoffs a lot of the times. Sure you could say they were better in 2021 but by how much huh?
2022-11-29 13:51
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Nip had 2 finals in 2021 1 trophy Multiple semis Just poach whatever better result they did this year, I'm waiting. Let's argue - they didn't get substantialy worse by losing their fucking star awper.
2022-11-29 13:56
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I really don’t get you. I literally said they made playoffs, also I don’t really care about nip. If one better 2021 team got worse in 2022 and other teams got better then whatever. They were better in 2021? Ok great, that doesn’t change much. Ask other users if nip was so fking good in 2021 haha.
2022-11-29 14:03
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Nip G2 vitality and Astralis got undeniably worse. Navi post sdy likewise, and C9. Losing to imperial, renegades, multiple group stage exits and so forth.
2022-11-29 14:06
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C9, astralis, g2 nope. Astralis wasn’t good, g2 was just not as shit as others in 2021, you could see that by how they were playing, I mean it wasn’t great. C9 is still good, they lost some shit games, whatever that happens to everyone. Navi still reached finals with sdy? Maybe start looking at other teams and not only big names.
2022-11-29 14:14
you can see with ur bare eye s1mple is playing like shit for example,whiffing so much
2022-11-29 00:15
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Germany Germen
recency bias, S1mple had a tough few games recently but before that he was absolutely on par with last year, maybe even better.
2022-11-29 00:17
21 replies
"maybe even better" yeah no he isnt in what univerese are you living he has never been even close to his last year rn he has a worst rating he has had in the past 5 years,hltv.org/stats/players/matches/7998/s1mp.. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/7998/s1mp..
2022-11-29 00:23
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Germany Germen
rating =/= him playing better/worse
2022-11-29 00:25
8 replies
holy fuck u are dumb,have a good rest of the day
2022-11-29 00:25
7 replies
If one is playing against silvers and having 2+ rating, and then playing against mgs and having 1.5 rating, is he playing worse or just the scene got better as a whole. Nowadays basically every team has got some sick riflers or awpers
2022-11-29 10:42
6 replies
Except that s1mple had a lot of actual trash games this year. NIP, FURIA, both matches vs FAZE in finals, EPL group stage.
2022-11-29 13:06
5 replies
He can’t have bad games or what? I don’t see your point. Overall he is still having good rating, and like I said, a bit worse average doesn’t necessary means anything
2022-11-29 13:38
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Yes, from constantly positive no matter how trash Navi was since 2017 to casually dropping 0.9-1.0 ratings to nip and FURIA and endpoint shows nothing actually Him also malding at sdy everytime does not affect his game. Neither the war on his home soil. Next time: electronic performance isn't affected by switching to IGL. B1t performance does not change after changing multiple roles.
2022-11-29 13:40
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Yup he is having a pretty bad period but still in 2022 he is good lol. I told in my previous comment that he was having mental issues, that obv affects him. War excuse is eh, I mean you can say that but a lot of other players from that region are playing good, obv it could affect him more
2022-11-29 13:55
2 replies
He is good, but he is WORSE now, can you not fucking read?
2022-11-29 13:58
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He is worse because he had some shit games and missed more shots in some games? Ok whatever bro, I mean you could literally ask anyone if he is worse. If because he has shit period, he is worse overall this year then well idk. Wasn’t zywoo pretty quiet last year first quarter or so? Had some shit games, still ended up 2 or so
2022-11-29 14:07
Bullshit, s1mple is showing weaker performances in both majors and cologne and katowice 2022 hltv.org/stats/players?event=6372 hltv.org/stats/players?event=6586 hltv.org/stats?event=6140 hltv.org/stats?event=6136 2021 hltv.org/stats?event=5469 hltv.org/stats?event=4866 hltv.org/stats?event=5552 Its amazing how nothing that you say as "fact" in the topics is true, holy fucking shit, can you do reasearch at least once? there is a "stats" tab right there.
2022-11-29 00:25
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Germany Germen
Did I not already tell you in my first comment that just looking at ratings shows nothing?
2022-11-29 00:25
8 replies
How the fuck it doesn't? Dude the rating is calculated via the average rating of the MATCHES. If s1mple is with lower rating, it means that HIS GAMES are with lower rating. Then watch the FUCKING GAMES, you will SEE that s1mple is playing worse You can check the MATCHES individual rating to see how much worse he is the major final vs faze the match vs furia the match vs NIP The cologne final vs faze ALL THE GROUP STAGE MATCHES IN EPL S16 Simples wasn't like this last year,ffs.
2022-11-29 00:36
7 replies
Because navi was a a much better functioning team and smashed everyone? They were lightyears ahead of their competition in the 2nd half of 2021. If you dominate every game its much more likely to have high rating even if you have a bit of an off game...
2022-11-29 08:00
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Oh yeah, s1mple will drop 0.9-1.0 because Navi now is a worse team. Despite the fact that that s1mple always dominated in every iteration of Navi, from this to actually bottoming the scoreboard, it's a huge amount of copium to say he isn't playing worse.
2022-11-29 13:08
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Well im not saying this is the reason, all im saying is that if your team is dominating and winning every map you will have much higher rating as when ur losing every map with the same performance..
2022-11-29 13:39
1 reply
It's a clinical case of reality denial to not see not only that s1mple is playing mechanically worse, but is also mentally out of control.
2022-11-29 13:41
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Canada MungoJerry
S1mple's rating isnt independent of his team and other teams. It's not that simple (hehe)
2022-11-29 10:04
2 replies
This dude can’t accept the fact that top20 teams of 2022 are having closer games than in 2021… just check the rankings and lineups of teams of 2021, which means the level of competition is growing..
2022-11-29 15:45
1 reply
Yeah not sure what he's smoking but I want some
2022-11-29 19:42
no bro I'm a s1mple fan but everyone can tell that he played much worse just by watching the game, because he is so unmotivated he doesn't even play cs that much due to all kinds of reasons, you gonna admit that
2022-11-29 06:47
+1 by using rating, you can only tell players relative skill.
2022-11-29 06:53
Maybe they got worse because other teams got better
2022-11-29 00:19
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Sorry I don't see outsiders or heroic playing an amazing cs that stomps teams on their way to the finals... and I don't really see outsiders winning anything again, I actually see c9 winning before outsiders wins again
2022-11-29 00:24
7 replies
Heroic has always been a very strong tesm
2022-11-29 00:24
1 reply
I agree but thats not the reason why they are in the spotlight now, the good teams just got worse on their own, factos... sdy doesnt fit navi, hooxi doesnt fit g2 and faze/vita lack consistency... the only team that got better was liquid and maybe c9
2022-11-29 00:34
They actually played amazing cs, watch their games and if you stop being biased towards "big" names. Outsiders literally were playing some of the best cs we have ever seen. Its so clean and calculated
2022-11-29 08:01
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I dont agree with them playing nutty cs... They didnt even face any really good teams in rio but vitality (bad shape and bo1) and heroic... they faced mouz and fnatic but nothing actually nuts... they lost 2-0 to a weak navi side in RMR and bo3s to vitality, g2 and faze in esl pro season... is just a matter of time for the really good teams to get in shape and outsiders is back to the shadows
2022-11-29 16:35
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You can only beat whobis in front of you and your "really good teams" werent really good teams at the event. The only ones being furia and maaayybe navi. And heroic beat furia that beat navi. And outsiders smashed heroic
2022-11-29 16:50
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They really good teams are still the better teams.. is just a matter of getting in form again or make some minor roster changes... I dont see outsiders even in top4 at paris..
2022-11-30 01:16
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why would you consider a team (org) like G2 that hasnt won sth since 2017 or vitality (1 title and 1 final this year i believe) to be so much better than outsiders who won the fking major in a dominant fashion? Like please telll me what makes G2 better than outsiders lol
2022-11-30 10:10
I don't think vitality and g2 going from multiple finals/trophies to bombing out of group stage is indicative that the other teams got better.
2022-11-29 00:45
1 reply
+1
2022-11-29 07:53
WW1
2022-11-29 00:24
#32
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France Alyta
sh1ro and ax1le got better but hobbi got worse from top 6 hltv to out of top 20
2022-11-29 00:26
CT side getting stronger makes the game more "competitive" by lowering the skill ceiling.
2022-11-29 00:40
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m4a1s effect, but this is about to end.
2022-11-29 00:42
2014-2017 many players were more competitive I think, more emotion, passion for the game, now many already have more comfort, they are already positioned and some demotivated
2022-11-29 00:53
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Uganda Tby17Q
I feel like level of CS played today is higher but top 10s and and top 30s of 2016-17-18-19 was far bettee than 20-21-22 In 2020 fcking BIG,Old washed Fnatic and Heroic was #1 and then in 2021 top 10 was like trashest it ever been and Gambit was destroying everyone until Navi got B1t and just killed fragged everyone(all bad teams btw there was no top team so Navi took advantage of it)Navi did what 2018 Faze couldn't but Navi didn't had SK/MIBR,Astralis,Team Liquid against them they had Furia,Spirit,Ence instead :D
2022-11-29 00:49
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"but Navi didn't had SK/MIBR,Astralis,Team Liquid against them they had Furia,Spirit,Ence instead :D" Forget G2 with peak NIKO Forget full french Vita with peak ZywOo Forget heroic that alwasy had close games with NAVI sure buddy
2022-11-29 00:54
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#45
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Uganda Tby17Q
"G2 with peak NIKO" No proper IGL(Nexa is a fragger IGL) No Awper No other superstar teammate Vitality No RPK they had Kyojin Misuutaa tier 5 player No superstar teammate No help
2022-11-29 00:58
3 replies
G2 is worse with "proper" awper and with "proper IGL" NIP had device Heroic was solid Gambit was stronger Vitality despite "bots" did way better than their international counterpart as far as tournament placings go.
2022-11-29 01:01
i guess hunter plays cricket not csgo, top 10 player somehow not a superstar.
2022-11-29 13:08
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#137
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Uganda Tby17Q
He was and is a star but never a megastar/superstar player
2022-11-30 04:45
Cs has never been better than now so many competetive teams
2022-11-29 06:55
this has been said since 2019 stop taking anyone who believes this seriously they genuinely lack any sort of intelligence. same type of mfers who be doubting torzsi
2022-11-29 06:57
2 replies
everything checks out
2022-11-29 07:54
#64
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
2015 was. There was 4 or 5 really good teams who can win any event they attend. 2019 comes after that. Only Astralis and Liquid were real strong
2022-11-29 10:09
2019 was 100% the most competitive year. you really can't say otherwise.
2022-11-29 07:17
3 replies
everything checks out
2022-11-29 07:28
Your flair is a fraud.
2022-11-29 13:43
0/8
2022-11-29 13:47
#53
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Sweden O7D
so what you're saying is without device, the competitive scene is completely different?
2022-11-29 07:48
Cry more
2022-11-29 07:50
#60
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Denmark RainsChild
Navi got worse? Faze smashed them when they had boombla. G2 beat them as well. Why do you think niko got worse? Don't you just think everyone else got better? The standard of cs has increased astronomically since 2018/19 Its almost impossible, even for s1mple/zywoo to solo carry anymore. Just stay mad
2022-11-29 08:21
4 replies
NiKo didn’t really get worse - what he did last year is so unrealistic for a rifler and no one should’ve expected him to continue godlike form 24/7 Edit: I know you didn’t say he got worse but I’m just saying my view
2022-11-29 12:00
Navi got worse yes, Im talking about now, boombl4 is out since the major. Most roster successful roster changes happened in the 2nd half of the year. Before that only faze and G2 did massive upgrades(G2 failed). But the teams started shutting the bed even before that. G2 going out in groups multiple times, C9 being eliminated by imperial in Antwerp, vitality likewise groups groups groups. If this isn't indicative that they didn't get worse than I have to say that imperial is such a good team, right?
2022-11-29 13:14
#128
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
It's easy to say "G2 beat them" if you ignore all context. People didn't even expect NaVi to play that match at Katowice considering the circumstances. And even then NaVi were having a good tournament until real-world events affected them. For the first time since 2019 I can look at most teams and think they're shit except this time we don't have any teams on top like Astralis and Liquid were that year. The most recent version of NaVi is one big experiment and will continue to be an experiment indefinitely. This has NaVi Guardian vibes written all over it except it's going to be hell of a lot longer till they get a complete team again. Yet this version of NaVi have still been more successful this year than most "complete" teams simply because the skill isn't there everywhere else.
2022-11-29 15:08
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+1g2 never beat real top teams playing their best
2022-11-29 18:03
#63
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
Dude stop adding nip and G2. They haven't won a big event since 2017. They are bad
2022-11-29 10:07
#67
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Antigua and Barbuda qezar
lower ratings mean more competition, cause it is a sign that it is harder to get those inflated ratings, therefore other players have gotten better and rob the chance of the leaders to get high ratings.
2022-11-29 10:42
4 replies
Then explain blameF and Niko and money have constantly good rating and constantly losing.
2022-11-29 13:35
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#107
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Antigua and Barbuda qezar
Tougher competition - can't win even with such ratings. I think for BlameF everyone knows the answer...?
2022-11-29 13:46
2 replies
You start saying that it's harder to get the ratings but the players easily get the rating and then you say "thougher competition" So it isn't hard to get the rating after all?
2022-11-29 13:50
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Antigua and Barbuda qezar
you named 3 players with high ratings, one of them is a complete stat-hunting baiter, the other 2 are exceptional talents, 1 of which is a top3 player for years now, ended up in unsuccessful lineups. Not the greatest examples, if you ask me
2022-11-29 14:43
Do you know what competitive means? Last year NaVi had very little competition so there was little competitiveness. This year it feels that any team can win anything this being high competitiveness within teams.
2022-11-29 11:59
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Flair
2022-11-29 12:15
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Name
2022-11-29 12:19
Are you illiterate? I agreed that o is more competitive, but because teams go WORSE, not better.
2022-11-29 13:14
#74
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Russia mshkoda
The game itself progresses and really becomes more competitive. Some are getting stronger, others are getting weaker. In CIS level has certainly increased recently.
2022-11-29 12:04
105 iq take
2022-11-29 13:12
#84
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Switzerland Imodeode
I actually agree here unlike so many it seems. It is the most competitive year, but it‘s not the one with the highest level of CS played.
2022-11-29 13:12
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what i saw in a lot of matches the last 2 months (and the main reason g2 looks like gold nova team with 1/2 lem smurfs) is that players now completly rely on gamesense, they dont chek angels they use a lot less flashes to enter position and more for executes. They will get into sites holding one position the entire time thinking like (they cant be underwood they cant be ninja they cant be ticket they have to be jungel it wood be stupid to be any other place then jungel) and then get killed without an aim fight
2022-11-29 13:28
agree
2022-11-29 13:12
|Enjoy it whilst it lasts i personally enjoy it more as anyone can win. However some teams will put more effort in and dominate again every now and then.
2022-11-29 13:29
2017 probably most competitive era
2022-11-29 13:33
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Cs never been more competetive then now we have so many competitive teams now wtf
2022-11-29 13:46
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FaZe ran thru half of 2022 Half of the year was already "uncompetitive"
2022-11-29 13:43
nice bait
2022-11-29 13:36
Nip era 2023-2024 im calling nip era
2022-11-29 13:43
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You must be delusional, it will be 2023-2026 at least.
2022-11-29 14:30
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+1
2022-11-29 14:59
good thread
2022-11-29 15:03
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United Kingdom HuzzyBoii
Teams have 100% gotten worse since 2021. NaVi haters just don't want to admit this. NaVi has turned into a big experiment, similar to 2019 when they brought in Guardian except that lasted 3 months and not majority of the year. Even with their problems they still only had FaZe to fear during the first half of the year because that is literally the only team that became better than them since the last half of 2021. G2 have had 2 different IGLs, one that was a promising talent from Ence and the other who instantly turned into a meme with his low ratings and worse calling. Vitality went from kinda shit to complete shit and fluked a tournament win while every team was collectively slumping. FaZe are the only team to become visually stronger since 2022 hence their winning every main event during the first half of the year. But idk wtf happened to them in the player break but since then they have been performing worse than ever (except for at Blast where they actually showed a great tournament). the a1-s nerf might change this though, a huge reason for teams getting weaker is because "worse" teams have learnt to implement the a1-s better against top tier teams. The amount of times I've watched s1mple or zywoo peek into someone and die before they can fire their gun is insane. They win those fights 9 times out of 10 but now it's like they win them 5 times out of 10. a1-s buff was def reducing the skill-gap significantly. Maybe now that from medium-long range fights will have a higher TTK, "better" teams will adapt to the change better than the "worse".
2022-11-29 15:25
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2/8
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