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b1t | 
CIS netochka 
i find it strange that the now #1 and 2 teams both have combined main awpers/IGLs. in my mind it seems very reasonable that it would be better to have these roles divided. are Jame and cadiaN anomalies or is this a new trend?
2022-11-29 02:47
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isn't sjuush the igl? i thought that, mb
2022-11-29 02:49
9 replies
LOL
2022-11-29 03:01
its cadian
2022-11-29 03:10
sjuush goatest igl
2022-11-29 03:36
Bruh
2022-11-29 08:34
not to be mean but why? Like why did you think that? A very quiet person that has NEVER been an IGL at a high level (tier 2 and up).
2022-11-29 08:55
What
2022-11-29 09:36
i think sjuush was igling on some maps in the past, idk if he is now, im guessing not. But it seems like hes the 2nd caller on the team
2022-11-29 10:22
sjuush and jabbi have some mid-round input (especially on T sides), but other than that, Cadian is the IGL hope this helps clear things up
2022-11-29 16:42
huh
2022-11-29 16:51
#2
crow | 
Indonesia ycrows
no, fallen and nitr0 has done it before
2022-11-29 02:50
17 replies
#6
b1t | 
CIS netochka
oh shit mb forgot about goat FalleN
2022-11-29 02:56
nitr0 stewie and NAF all shared about equal (NAF slightly less) share of the AWP kills in 2019
2022-11-29 05:04
12 replies
stewie goat hybrid player awper igl rifler lurker support coach all in 1
2022-11-29 10:23
11 replies
*also valorant player
2022-11-29 10:23
3 replies
:D
2022-11-29 15:03
2 replies
byali, pubg player
2022-11-29 15:51
1 reply
snax, ronaldinho of CS
2022-11-29 16:17
Coach no 😂
2022-11-29 15:02
1 reply
soon enough
2022-11-29 15:51
also streamer
2022-11-29 16:02
4 replies
+1 and valorant player
2022-11-29 16:02
3 replies
lmao imagine him as a coach tho, it would be so toxic kekw
2022-11-29 16:03
2 replies
yeah that would be weird. but i dont think stewie is as toxic as people thing, i mean his past coaches say that he is a very smart player and stuff like that, but yeah he is a lil toxic for sure
2022-11-29 16:06
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"lil" i think big
2022-11-29 22:40
Its because igls are bad at the game and awping is easy so they can have 4 good riflers and an awp instead of 3 good riflers, 1 bad rifler, and 1 awp. awp= bait and save to inflate stats. Degster s1mple and Zywoo only skilled awpers. awp should be taken out of the game imo
2022-11-29 16:57
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#77
crow | 
Indonesia ycrows
yea people should start scouting
2022-11-29 17:05
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exactly. scouting takes actual skill but people like device get to awp crutch (and get carried by dupreeh) their way to majors and "goat status". ak you have to hit at least 4 body shots to kill and same with m4. It takes skill to hit a head shot but the awp is just for people who dont know how to aim. Take out the autos and awps and makes scout 15 round clip and raise price to 2000. boom fixed csgo.
2022-11-29 17:12
#3
WolfY | 
Sweden hoey
definitely not a new trend, FalleN is the clearest example of it being done before. nitr0 did it as well in Liquid back in 2019 when they were very good. gla1ve was also awping for bit recently
2022-11-29 02:51
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gla1ve barely counts but yeah the other two are notable examples
2022-11-29 02:54
4 replies
Yeah once every 20 games definitely doesn't count for that
2022-11-29 08:35
3 replies
#57
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England BobDude65
Not once every 20 games, there was a period of a couple months where Gla1ve took the AWP from lucky, also before Lucky came in when they were playing with Bubski I'm pretty sure Gla1ve was the AWPer.
2022-11-29 15:11
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wasnt dupreeh? pretty sure he held the awp in ct side
2022-11-29 17:10
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#81
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England BobDude65
I think he stayed as second AWP but I could be wrong. If he did play AWP main then idk who entried.
2022-11-29 17:18
it's old-school what you mean
2022-11-29 02:55
2 replies
#7
b1t | 
CIS netochka
trends can be oldschool. is it returning?
2022-11-29 02:56
1 reply
not sure if it's returning. for now, it's more like remnants of the past. maybe we will see some teams try it out due to the recent success with it?
2022-11-29 03:00
neither heroic or outsiders are actual top2 teams tho
2022-11-29 02:56
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#11
crow | 
Indonesia ycrows
they are cope
2022-11-29 02:59
who are top 2 then, lol? there are no teams that are better rn imo maybe the picture looks different after worlds. but at this point in time, they are the strongest 2 teams.
2022-11-29 03:02
1 reply
wait until outsiders show up again on lan
2022-11-29 03:10
apparently they are
2022-11-29 05:17
#35
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Finland aleksiii
I dont know man. Outsiders just won a major and heroic were the finalists with them and just won a tier 1 tournament which had your fazes and navis
2022-11-29 08:36
3 replies
+1 especially heroic legit
2022-11-29 08:55
1 reply
+1
2022-11-29 09:00
#74
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United States cybonics
+1
2022-11-29 16:48
They are, especially Heroic who got to the Major final and then won Fall Finals right after beating G2, FaZe, Liquid and NIP in bo3's, but Outsiders winning the Major makes them top2 as well, we have to wait and see though if they can keep that level of play, because they never showed that before
2022-11-29 15:11
This meta already exists a few years ago with FalleN, if you see that in 90% of the BR teams the AWP is the IGL is by the 'Fallen school' of 2016/2017
2022-11-29 02:57
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Mibr - no 00nation - no Furia - no Pain - no Imperial - yes, fallen Fluxo - yes, wood7 Team one - yes, maluk3 O Plano - no (kng isn't IGL) Arctic - no Sharks - no How is that 90%
2022-11-29 08:32
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#36
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Finland aleksiii
trust me bro
2022-11-29 08:36
BR math
2022-11-29 09:04
Where did I say "currently" in my sentence? Many BR IGLs are no longer AWPers today because they realized that AWP is a weapon too OP to be in the hands of those who are busy preoccupied with their own game, the opponent's game and their own team's game. Furia for example when they had Ablej, Art was the Awper, but he realized that he had a better impact as a rifler and second AWP and Furia called HEN1, a main Awper. People on this forum try hard to look like dumbs. In addition to Furia, which I already mentioned the team. MIBR: JOTA is not a main IGL, it is an improvised IGL like Electronic, after leaving WOOD7 00Nation new meta lineup as I explained, they opted for the system the world opted for (IGL-Rifler) Furia I already explained PaiN today not, but they had Land1n (IGL-Awper) before PKL Imperial yes Fluxo yes Team One yes The Plan: New meta lineup, as well as 00Nation preferred to opt for the same system that the world opted for (IGL-Rifler/Second Awper, Yel was IGL-Awper in MIBR) Arctic and Sharks for the same reason. New meta lineups Maluk Khtex Yel Art WOOD7 KNG Zqk Land1n Tiburcio All those BR players who have been, or still are, IGL-Awpers have FalleN as inspiration.
2022-11-29 10:01
if he have AWPer ability, the best version of IGL is AWPer-IGL glaive, the GOAT IGL, said
2022-11-29 02:58
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but why? surely you want someone whos like focused on an angle not to also have to be calling
2022-11-29 03:02
1 reply
he can dictate the game while only playing point and click gun
2022-11-29 16:00
#18
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Australia L_M_N_T
Well if u think about team spirit, degster and their igl chopper had differences in ideology and how to play the game. Often times AWPers have big ego, like smooya, as much as I like smooya your awper has to be disciplined and play for the team. Thats why even though jame and cadian arent the best awpers they are successful, cause they are disciplined and play for team :D. easiest to execute being on the same player
2022-11-29 03:20
falleN, nitr0, jame, comediaN, wood7, nifty, chrisJ for a while i think
2022-11-29 03:22
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#20
WolfY | 
Sweden hoey
oskar was awping when chrisJ was igl
2022-11-29 03:24
2 replies
#25
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North America soduk_db
ChrisJ was still secondary AWP like how arT, b1t, YEKINDAR, NAF and Twistzz can all AWP and do
2022-11-29 03:41
hmmm i see
2022-11-29 04:29
#43
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Italy MulaManca
damn, what ever happened to nifty?
2022-11-29 08:59
#21
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North America soduk_db
The AWP/IGL is a deadly combo because main AWP's tend to be less aggressive unless you're in close quarters and combat AWPing which kennyS and m0NESY are known for but having the time between picks is crucial for relaying information and for mid round calling while still having very high impact.
2022-11-29 03:36
#22
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Canada Zenrod
Won't last long.
2022-11-29 03:31
#23
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United States j3tta
FalleN Jame cadiaN WOOD7 Noktse (Isurus lol) arT (secondary AWP) nitr0 (back in the day)
2022-11-29 03:36
It just a proper format. The IGL being either the first or last to die allows them to call plays in the most efficient way. Leave the mid rounds to the riflers.
2022-11-29 04:05
MSL also an example I think
2022-11-29 04:52
MSL Art (maining awp for some time too) Elian
2022-11-29 05:00
1 reply
#38
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Australia poppyxox
since when was elian an igl lmao
2022-11-29 08:37
#37
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Australia poppyxox
bruh its just a coincidence
2022-11-29 08:36
#39
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Turkey bizonSX
dev1ce to IGL, ez 4 more major
2022-11-29 08:38
It makes sense for some types of teams. I don't think it's objectively the optimal strategy tho. It just depends how you value the awp. Should it be used to chill and pick off rotators or should it be used to get opening picks
2022-11-29 08:52
Agreed. But some teams in NA are using awp just to throw flashes for their allies! I just don't understand that usage and I hope it will stop soon. Why should a person have a weapon that costs 4750 just to throw a flash behind an ally?
2022-11-29 09:08
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so do cadian and jame
2022-11-29 15:58
JR was awp + igl aswell
2022-11-29 09:15
#48
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Antigua and Barbuda qezar
I think an awping IGL makes total sense, since the awper's game pace is slower than a riflers and he stays on the back lines of the team, therefore giving him much more time and space to think and put the pieces together. Also awp is the main weapon which the team plays around which is also the role of an IGL
2022-11-29 09:30
I think because of the fact that most of the time the AWPer is one of the last alive it gives them the chance to make greats calls mid/late round and therefore helping the team win more rounds Even if they die they could still call the mid/late round but idk that’s my theory
2022-11-29 09:37
it depends on communication.. jame has qikert as an entry who also used to igl and is very vocal. if you have a quiet guy in gaining info role it wont work in general thats why communication>aim
2022-11-29 15:58
not new trend jame is igl since 2018 or smth
2022-11-29 16:05
igl overrated anyway. Anyone can IGL to top 1 team like NiKo blameF cadian magisk electronic tarik anyone can IGL...
2022-11-29 16:08
#71
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Sweden RRosenberg
people saying it couldnt be a new trend cause FalleN did it already, its 100% not a trend if 1 guy does it. Hard to call it a trend with only 2 aswell
2022-11-29 16:35
happy 2nd awp+igl+lurk
2022-11-29 16:43
#78
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Netherlands arTvamp
good question. fallen also one of the goat igls and an awper. it can be a new trend now with cadian and jame having the best teams rn. but even if it wasnt they do this for quite some time now. i find the following question more interesting. What weapon/role is best for the igl? Entry? get info, die first, make space and sacrifice call from beyond the grave. Awp? oversight, brief moments that require you to be active. unless you are working an active angle. moment to fall back and call. Lurker?
2022-11-29 17:12
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