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RTX 3070 Ti or RX 6800?
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Russia LordOfTheSadAndLonely 
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2022-11-29 15:58
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2022-11-29 15:59
#3
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Germany pumpy
Rtx 3080
2022-11-29 16:06
18 replies
It costs much more than these two
2022-11-29 16:10
16 replies
czs its 3080 performance
2022-11-29 17:30
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#111
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Europe Real_Man
Not rly that much better especially with its price, not worth at all unless u care about playing in 1440p or smth like that
2022-12-08 16:03
1 reply
i feel like for 1080p you could just buy 6700XT for 400 bucks then
2022-12-08 16:38
#43
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Bulgaria Radosl4v
i just got a 3080 watercoled for 890euros so no so much of a diference it gets the i mean there is but worted ading some cash to it
2022-12-01 16:56
12 replies
10gb version?
2022-12-01 21:21
11 replies
#49
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Bulgaria Radosl4v
12 gb whit a 25 % discound i find it and insta lock it :D imagebam.com/view/MEH60XQ
2022-12-02 06:01
10 replies
Good for you men))
2022-12-02 08:03
9 replies
#51
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Bulgaria Radosl4v
yeah i know havend been lucky long time :D
2022-12-02 08:37
8 replies
even now ur not lucky. 899 usd is msrp for 7900XT thats coming out now
2022-12-04 09:46
7 replies
#63
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Bulgaria Radosl4v
true but i dont think it will be that low for it i was waiting for them to come out but i just dit not resist that price and seems retarded since years ago i was never gona give more than 600 for a high end card
2022-12-04 11:51
5 replies
3080 is not high end anymore.. theres a reason prices are going down
2022-12-04 12:10
4 replies
Nvidia disagrees with the prices going down part lmao
2022-12-04 12:45
#72
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Bulgaria Radosl4v
still pretty much the same as the 4080
2022-12-04 16:49
2 replies
30-40 % slower = same kkkkkkkkkk
2022-12-04 16:54
1 reply
#74
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Bulgaria Radosl4v
in 4 k i play fullhd not 4 k :D
2022-12-05 05:29
msrp is exkluding taxes and shipping fees to europe, probably expect 899 usd = 853eur 853*1.4 (taxes, shipping, cooler) = 1250 eur so id expect 1200-1400 is what it will go for depending on what cooler it is etc
2022-12-08 15:59
#79
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Europe Khanan
Dumb answer. He didn’t ask for a 3080.
2022-12-07 03:18
#4
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Finland KieZuZ
Do you care more about your money or dlss, nvenc and tracing rays?
2022-11-29 16:09
6 replies
I don't get how does dlss work. So, you just turn that thing on and you get a lot more video card performance with min of image deterioration?
2022-11-29 16:15
5 replies
#9
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Finland KieZuZ
It takes lower resolution image and AI-cores create the missing pixels to make it look bigger resolution. In short it looks a little blurry on edges and gives more fps
2022-11-29 16:19
2 replies
Okay, I think I get it now
2022-11-29 16:21
Wish we cud have antialiasing as good as MSAA/SSAA without the massive performance hit. Worst part is alot of new games looks shit without TAA now, so you either go no TAA and get awful flimmering and shadow and other shit looking weird as fk or you use TAA and feel like ur going blind bcus its all blurry.
2022-12-04 10:43
it scuffs the image for more fps
2022-11-29 17:30
1 reply
Well at 1080p the image sure doesnt get better, plus the performance gain is really small at times. At 4k the image is almost identical which is kinda the point of DLSS/FSR, its meant for 4k, but 4k is still atleast 4-6 years away, 1440p is starting to be the new standard resolution. At 1080p with the new gpus the cpu is bottlenecking the shit out of the cards to a point you get the exact same fps at 1440p.
2022-12-04 10:45
They are practically the same. Just 6800 3% better in performance.
2022-11-29 16:11
#7
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Italy alastt27
rtx, you will have ray tracing, which is already better, also it's more stable to play csgo. What's the price difference tho?
2022-11-29 16:11
5 replies
The price is pretty much the same (about ~900$)
2022-11-29 17:25
4 replies
#12
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Italy alastt27
the answer is obvius then
2022-11-29 17:25
3 replies
I saw dry tests of them together and rx seems to win tho, but it is so without those nvidia features like dlss and etc
2022-11-29 17:29
2 replies
6800 is faster
2022-11-29 17:31
#22
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Sweden gNeJS
AMD have their own version of dlss called FSR or something like that.
2022-11-30 15:03
which brands are we talking? msi, asus, zotac etc? also the exact price of each pls
2022-11-29 17:29
18 replies
For 3070 ti it could be either: INNO3D Geforce RTX 3070 Ti X3 (978€/1010$) GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3070 Ti GAMING (915€/945$) Palit GeForce RTX 3070 Ti GameRock OC (899€/929$) GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 3070 Ti GAMING OC (899€/929$) Palit GeForce RTX 3070 Ti GameRock (883€/912$) Palit GeForce RTX 3070 Ti GamingPro (852€/880$) For RX 6800: GIGABYTE AORUS Radeon RX 6800 MASTER (962€/994$) Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 6800 Gaming (954€/985$) MSI AMD Radeon RX 6800 GAMING X TRIO (899€/929$) GIGABYTE AMD Radeon RX 6800 GAMING OC (841€/869$) PowerColor AMD Radeon RX 6800 Fighter (812€/839$)
2022-11-29 23:56
17 replies
how much is a 6800 xt for you?
2022-11-30 15:01
13 replies
Damn, there is one pretty affordable: GIGABYTE AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT GAMING OC for 959 euros
2022-11-30 15:50
12 replies
that's definitely one of the better models and much better than a 3070 ti performance wise. although i have to say in 2 weeks, amd releases their 7000 gpus, which are 899 and 999 each. if you can, wait for those and see if they are available at those prices.
2022-11-30 16:20
11 replies
Okay, thanks mate
2022-11-30 16:53
10 replies
np, just out of curiosity, do you only care about good performance or also about ray tracing and encoding (streaming for example)
2022-11-30 17:08
8 replies
I guess just good performance is enough for me
2022-11-30 18:09
7 replies
yeah amd is better in terms of price and performance tbh, only thing nvidia has going for them are dlss, rtx and encoding. fsr is already close enough and with the new amd gpus, ray tracing will be improved massively i think
2022-11-30 18:51
i have 6700 xt, be aware drivers are garbage ps- not intel's level garbage
2022-12-01 16:43
5 replies
I have 6900 xt the drivers are great(better than nvidia) and 99% think the same.. fix ur pc
2022-12-04 09:36
4 replies
bro , don't give me that great drivers bs, 10.2 have hardware acc problem when at 11.1 apex crashes oh and why freesync work time to time in vsr
2022-12-04 10:23
3 replies
Have zero crashes in apex, and my freesync works at all time even with vsr and sure there has been some hardware accel issues but usually u disable that shit since even nvidia drivers has issues with it. Anyway dont give me that bs that amd drivers are bad when nvidia has equally as many issues and with less features... you literally need 3rd party bs to overclock, fan control etc... Plus freesync and vsr has nothing to do with each other... hz and freesync do, but resolutions has nothing to do with freesync. But thanks for clarifying u have zero idea wtf u talk about. (and please dont bother try finding a topic somewhere about a guy who says his freesync doesnt work with vsr... his issue is because of something totally dif since as i said resolution and freesync have nothing to do with each other.) And i have used ALL drivers and they have worked with apex flawlessly, never any crashes besides the usual apex crash bcus of the game but those happens maybe 10 times a year.
2022-12-04 10:35
2 replies
THEY BOTH GARBAGE don't tell people drivers are great just cuz u fine , i dont do a clean system install but i already have amd drivers (rx580) but i ddu it , and "I" have problem on 580 sometime drivers would crash just cuz then i roll back and hop no problems except if it use full ram it would crash again WHY? and new driver got me hardware acc problems WHY?>////// but yeah card itself great bro my freesync works almost all the time but sometimes it's not i need to change resolution back to forth
2022-12-04 10:38
lmao delusional, I had so much problems with AMD that I'm 100% sure my next card will be nvidia again. the most interesting ones I remember: . on day Marvel's Spider-Man came out (august 2022), there was an update "to optimize" it to get more fps (it was launching with a warning that you need to update and I let it go eventually). and ALL VIDEOS I RENDER BECAME INVERTED COLORS, I thought I was going crazy, I added re-invert colors to prevent it AND IT TURNED OUT not ALL colors are inverted so my video looked like a fucking chemicals mixture or I had Deuteranopia or something. I even thought it was some kinda protection from plug-ins but then someone created this topic and I found out that it switches RGB to ARGB or some shit: vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/blue.. reddit.com/r/VegasPro/comments/wfjuso/fo.. so I said no to updating drivers no more. . one day my entire fucking "Record" section disappeared from settings, there was no "record" option in the software no more and hotkeys didn't work. I again thought maybe I'm going crazy, but it turns out it was another amd feature and windows itself updates gpu drivers if amd software doesn't which ends up your record section being absent: reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/ri49ix/i_h.. reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/s2jl2c/rad.. . one day when I just started using AMD Relive for months and got like 500gb of clips everything started laggin' all of a sudden. I thought maybe it's SSD problem and it's full, but it was not at all full. so I open task manager and see that AMD Relive is using 16gb ram. Reinstalling/uninstalling didn't help so I thought maybe I'm going crazy again but actually, after using lasso or whatever launcher I found out that it was a bug because of my folder (?!) being too big. I renamed my old folder from "Relive" to "Reliive" and created a new empty "Relive" folder and problem was gone. reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/ey0p68/i_n.. community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/ra.. community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/in.. another "normal" amd features: . FAN settings are broken af, they always go back to default so you HAVE TO save a custom profile and open it every time this happens OR have a msi afterburner open before you play aaa games . Recording settings go back to default for whatever reasons (if you turn off your pc too fast i.e.), but THERE'S NO CUSTOM profiles so YOU HAVE TO enter all settings manually. . Mic settings for recording broken, you choose "separate audio track" for the video but it's not like in shadowplay when 1 video has 2 different audio tracks, it's 1 video and 1 *.m4a audio file. you can say whatever it's ok, BUT THEN after some time it breaks and you have your mic noises in BOTH files so since video has 1 audio track you can't remove your mic sounds and video is wasted. and overall nvidia shadowplay>>amd relive if you play games nvidia better (dlls, rtx whatever. nvidia settings>>amd settings, + everyone has their nvidia settings but noone has amd settings), if you make content nvidia better (seen myself), if you work nvidia better (seen some guy on hltv malding that it hasn't support of some architectures or shit)
2022-12-04 12:56
Wait for rdna3 ffs
2022-12-04 10:24
#39
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Poland k0liNN
bruh gigabyte is shit
2022-12-01 16:41
#44
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Bulgaria Radosl4v
lol thats expensive :D
2022-12-01 17:00
get 6800 sapphire nitro plus best i've been using sapphire nitro + 5700xt for almost 2 years
2022-12-05 05:45
#17
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Bulgaria tick10
if you only play cs you dont really need both of them :D i have 3070ti is amazing for 1440p gaming
2022-11-29 17:31
whichever you find cheaper, if same price then rtx
2022-11-30 00:01
3070ti is hot as fuck with gddr6x memory so its either 3080 or go for amd
2022-11-30 17:14
#28
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Norway PeteZz
Same price = 3070ti, as it has few more bells and whistles. If 6800 is like €100 cheaper, go for the 6800 as it has better rasterisation performance. However, you’re getting close to the 3080 in price, so I would go for that instead of those two if you can find it for €50-100 more. I recently went for a used 3080 for €500, and it’s still a kickass gpu. But beware of the risks of buying used.
2022-11-30 17:17
1 reply
#88
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Finland Nollegee
+1 if u buy a gpu which was used for mining it’s kinda f*cked up then
2022-12-07 05:44
If you ask me, neither are worth what they sell for. Look for used card deals. I managed to catch rtx 3070 ti for 500, albeit that is pure luck.
2022-11-30 18:12
1 reply
The thing is I'm pretty unlucky buying used electronics. I don't really know on what things I should pay attention to when I'm buying used video card. Not worth the risk
2022-11-30 20:17
#31
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Europe Khanan
6800 has more power and efficiency and double the vram , it’s the more powerful and better equipped card. The only upside the 3070 Ti has over it, is RT performance, but honestly that alone would not convince me and that’s despite me using RT sometimes.
2022-11-30 18:14
#34
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Brazil DIctionary
as owner of 6900XT i'd say I would go for 3070TI
2022-11-30 20:23
4 replies
why? driver issues?
2022-12-01 16:01
2 replies
#36
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Brazil DIctionary
I think DLSS is very compelling for future proof. I don't have driver issues. Never had.
2022-12-01 16:34
1 reply
Dlss is gonna die one day fsr isnt and keeps getting better its almost at dlss level
2022-12-04 09:37
#77
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Europe Khanan
That’s idiotic. 6900 XT is a far stronger card. I would say you’re either clueless or you’re a liar.
2022-12-05 05:47
Between this two, no doubt, 3070 ti. But i would also wait for 7800xt, it will be much better than both you listed.
2022-12-01 16:34
3 replies
#42
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Germany pumpy
Bro it will be still 4-6 months to release
2022-12-01 16:54
2 replies
Ye but the gap between this generation and next is simply amazing. Of course, you can try to just buy 3070 ti and sell it when 7800XT will be available, but if you're making your "final decision" i would wait for 7800XT :D
2022-12-01 17:08
1 reply
#46
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Germany pumpy
ye but time is time and both should be more than enough for gaming So if I needed one right now, i would buy rn :D
2022-12-01 17:16
Neither just buy an 280x
2022-12-01 16:42
3060ti
2022-12-01 16:45
#48
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Europe Vallon5(1)
Neither.
2022-12-01 21:23
id get the rx because most of the games that i play dont support any dlss or ray tracing which is kinda the point of rtx series. rx gives you far more bang for the buck if you play older games, especially csgo.
2022-12-04 10:32
nvidia
2022-12-04 10:55
3070ti is like 5% faster than 3070 but has hotter gddr6x memory and way more power consumption/tdp. but if u dont plan on doing gameplay recording , video editing or 3d work then rx6800 is a great deal
2022-12-04 12:20
3050 xdd
2022-12-04 12:21
#67
s1mple | 
World doh
rx6800
2022-12-04 12:21
#68
kaz | 
Lithuania k42
What do you guys use those over powerful gpus for? I mean I have 3060 TI and it's still overkill for my needs, I can play every game on 1080p on max settings with good enough fps.
2022-12-04 12:37
2 replies
bcuz 90-100 fps >> 60-70 fps prob. for me, at least, it's gonna be a deciding factor. 100 fps feels insane, while 60 is like really laggish.. and with a delay in controls or something, like time goes slower and faster this is driving me nuts..
2022-12-04 13:11
Can confirm, im on 3070. With dsr scaling to 1440p its almost perfect. But fps will drop a bit below 60 on occasion for sure in certain games on max gfx settings. For example gta5. So its not the best possible super duper experience on the market but really is good enough Any card that can run metro exodus on max settings dsr 1440p is fine
2022-12-05 05:41
#78
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Europe Khanan
Don’t listen to the Nvidia fanboys. Go and look for proper reviews. 6800 is better, in fact.
2022-12-05 05:48
6800 if its cheaper. know friends that has the 3070 and dlss, raytracing arent really important when youre getting more fps anyways with the 6800. i have the reddragon one and i have never used teh silent mode on it. only thing is drivers are meh, but it has more fun things like sharpening, superresolution which makes games look a bit better.
2022-12-07 03:33
10 replies
#87
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Europe Khanan
If you want to talk nonsense about the drivers, which are actually good, then why even bother recommending it? Weird opinion, you can simply don’t post next time your comment is like a +1 and then -1 nonsensical
2022-12-07 05:34
9 replies
stop being dumb. you can formulate it as "I would pick the amd card despite the worse drivers". Driver functionality is subjective because people want different things, but games do look worse on the amd cards i have used and have been less easy to set up.
2022-12-08 05:36
8 replies
#102
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Europe Khanan
The only dumb thing here I see is your comment. Sorry bruh, but the problem sits in front of the PC. Drivers of AMD are excellent since years now. You also sound like a douche who wants to complain for the sake of complaining a common psychological problem in the west.
2022-12-08 07:15
7 replies
how are the drivers excellent
2022-12-08 15:51
2 replies
#108
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Europe Khanan
If the problem isn’t sitting in the front of the pc it’s excellent.
2022-12-08 16:02
1 reply
dude when i go around without the graphical enhancements of cs and amd it looks like shit. like antialiasing edges on walls, and my recent rx 6800 had an issue where i had a shadow around fonts and my crosshair, that dissappeared in lighter areas. its just weird. playermodels are more pixelated too. i have to play with more antialiasing and filtering. you can absolutely work around it but should you have to? People dont say amd drivers are shit for no reason. when dirt rally came out it looked worse because antialiasing was worse on amd cards even though the game was promoted with amd.
2022-12-08 17:16
Nvidia miles clear of AMD lmao
2022-12-08 15:58
3 replies
#109
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Europe Khanan
Lmao, 0 iq kid don’t talk to me.
2022-12-08 16:02
2 replies
Nvidia flagships destroy amd every year lmao
2022-12-08 16:12
1 reply
#113
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Europe Khanan
#109 get a life lmao lmao
2022-12-08 16:13
#81
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Canada Lachance
nvidia drivers just better supported for most games
2022-12-07 05:21
3 replies
#86
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Europe Khanan
Not really, that’s typical Nvidia fanboy nonsense. AMD drivers are pretty good since years now.
2022-12-07 05:33
2 replies
#92
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Canada Lachance
not, but nt
2022-12-07 17:51
1 reply
#95
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Europe Khanan
“Not” great counter-argument. How old are you, 12? Then please don’t talk about tech, people want serious tips here, not childish nonsense.
2022-12-07 19:07
buy used gpu ezpz
2022-12-07 05:24
7 replies
#85
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Europe Khanan
Bad idea considering many have been abused for mining. Either it has warranty or if not, stay far away from it.
2022-12-07 05:32
6 replies
3070 ti hasnt been mined as often because it was released a lot later
2022-12-07 16:34
5 replies
#94
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Europe Khanan
You’re grasping for straws.
2022-12-07 19:06
4 replies
reduced hash mining rate - may 2021 3070 ti release date : june
2022-12-07 19:56
1 reply
#98
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Europe Khanan
Mining was popular until beginning of 2022, so no, that’s bs. 3070 Ti was absolutely used for mining. Without warranty it’s not worth buying.
2022-12-07 19:58
Nvidia reduced hash rate in may 2021 and released 3070 ti in june You can also just buy cards labeled as LHR
2022-12-07 19:57
1 reply
#99
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Europe Khanan
2022-12-07 19:58
I wouldn't even bother right now. AMD is releasing new cards in a week and current GPU prices are massively artificially inflated because companies realized people were ok paying crypto card premiums (which is absolutely ridiculous). I can't imagine buying previous gen at $700-$900 and thinking it's a deal because a 4090 is like $2000.
2022-12-07 05:29
3 replies
#84
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Europe Khanan
6800 ain’t that expensive. 580 in Germany, and you don’t get anything else or better for that price.
2022-12-07 05:31
2 replies
Yeah, that's not terrible. Granted a 4080 should realistically cost only a bit more than that, but I guess NVidia are scared to show losses after people stopped buying cards by the warehouse.
2022-12-07 05:50
1 reply
#90
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Europe Khanan
The best the 4080 could cost is about 700-800. But as long sheeple keep buying Nvidia and ignoring AMD it will cost 1000+. Nvidias trying to turn PC gaming into something like a specialty expensive hobby, trains or shit like that. It all goes downhill. AMD is de facto doing the opposite.
2022-12-07 07:33
What games are you running you can still get away with a 1080ti these days if u dont care abt graphics
2022-12-07 17:57
amd has better drivers and this is not a joke
2022-12-08 05:41
RX 6800 is basically the same as 3070 (rx 6800 = rtx 3070) That answers the question to you. It's like trying to ask which is better: rtx 3070 or 3070Ti.
2022-12-08 15:58
RTX 3060 TI
2022-12-08 15:59
#110
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Ukraine Belgorod
I prefer dildo in ur anus
2022-12-08 16:03
#115
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Europe Real_Man
I wouldnt buy nvidia at all currently unless you really care about ray tracing perfomance or u have too much money. They just arent worth the money imo but unfortunately nothing gonna change cuz most people still pick nvidia cuz its "nvidia"...
2022-12-08 17:05
3070 ti.
2022-12-08 17:17
Get Nvidia gpu. I will never trust AMD drivers.
2022-12-08 23:16
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