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Germany vs Italy for International Student
Poland tailal 
Which country is better overall for Masters Studies? Chance of getting a job, language barrier and finances wise?
2022-12-01 15:09
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Barbados DawgBuck
Germany
2022-12-01 15:09
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care to elaborate why one over the other?
2022-12-01 15:11
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Germany rich country Italy not so rich country = chances of getting a better paying job higher
2022-12-01 15:15
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fair enough. + free education in Germany
2022-12-01 15:16
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#58
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Italy MulaManca
italian education is pretty cheap, you can get massive discounts
2022-12-01 16:35
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im looking into Sapienza University of Rome as well
2022-12-02 08:07
#142
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Cyprus shmoe
education (university) in germany is not free. there are some states in which it is. depends on the party in charge and their politics.
2022-12-01 18:14
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yeah in Stuttgart and Friburg they charge 1500 euro per semester
2022-12-02 08:07
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For international students or? Iirc it’s less for European. In Leipzig it’s 170€ / Semester
2022-12-02 08:37
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yeah for International its 1500
2022-12-02 10:22
Not true at all, people in italy have more money in average
2022-12-01 16:15
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source?
2022-12-01 16:54
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So Luxembourg bestest?))
2022-12-01 17:44
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In terms of money, yes
2022-12-01 18:07
Cayman island of Europe
2022-12-02 08:38
italien 214, deutschland 233 on average?
2022-12-01 18:01
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Median is the most important thing here, average is inflated by billionaires
2022-12-01 18:05
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"people in italy have more money in average" proceeds to convince me median is more important than average when discussing this statement...
2022-12-01 18:07
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Okay, in average without the billionaires :)
2022-12-01 18:13
0/8
2022-12-01 17:41
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Its the truth
2022-12-01 17:43
Nah they should all go to Germany
2022-12-01 18:03
stay in poland pls
2022-12-01 17:51
None
2022-12-01 15:10
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#4
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Barbados DawgBuck
Stop playing with people’s lives like this
2022-12-01 15:10
says the country where you get buried in loans just to study xaxaxaxaxaxa
2022-12-01 15:11
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Better than being poor forever
2022-12-01 15:11
28 replies
Both Germany and Italy have good pays for IT Sector
2022-12-01 15:12
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Not to me. It’s like less than 1/2 USA with higher taxes. I wouldn’t ever move anywhere in the EU so you do you though.
2022-12-01 15:17
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fair enough can't compete with USA pays
2022-12-01 15:17
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Canada cheesecan
usa pays more so you pay more
2022-12-01 15:39
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Nope, most money in the world after all health and living costs
2022-12-01 15:52
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even beating us? respect go to the wrong place in chicago or philly or detroit and its a warzone though
2022-12-01 16:32
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And if I go to the slums of Bulgaria I’ll get stabbed and robbed by a person riding a donkey Who cares
2022-12-01 16:47
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who was talking about bulgaria wtf
2022-12-01 20:50
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#153
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Canada cheesecan
hes american, doesn't know what flag you have
2022-12-02 02:42
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Says Canada lmao. Stop sucking up to Europeans, they beg Americans to care about their countries while knowing 0 geography about places like Africa. My fellow North American has bruised ego and bruised knees :(
2022-12-02 05:01
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#173
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Canada cheesecan
literally immigrated from africa. kys dumbass
2022-12-04 20:18
Quality of life is better in almost every single European country.. after taxes, Europeans have more money in the pocket than Americans, that's for sure. USA is a falling empire, while the old continent is steady af.. and American education is failed btw, or why do you think the entire world calls them "dumb americans?"
2022-12-01 16:34
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Quality of life NO, Americans are above the majority of EU: oecdbetterlifeindex.org/ Income NO, Americans are the richest: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposable_house.. Education NO: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_In.. This is why I roast Europoors. You’re all delusional poverty retards. Poorer and with less life satisfaction than Americans. The Eurozone is in a massive war with Russia and has a worse economy and energy crisis you dumb meatball brain lmfao. Holy shit Europoor stupidity never ceases to amaze me. Wow. 😔
2022-12-01 16:38
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Oh man you don't know how to read tho.. did you check that information before writing this? the PPP is for PRICE little bro.. "Purchasing power parity is an economic term for measuring prices at different locations", so yeah, prices are better in the USA, so? what happens when you don't have jobs? who cares about the prices? on the other two indexes, USA is below at least 7 european countries, in one of them is even below average.. what are you talking about man? ... americans dude
2022-12-01 16:49
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For median disposable income PPP (accounts for all living costs, most accurate for material well being) , Americans are the richest in the world. With that QoL index, the most comprehensive in the world, Americans are above the majority of EU. I know Italy has a 3rd world education but this is genuinely making me sad… mentally stunted for life. No wonder your country is poor.
2022-12-01 16:51
still losing MASSIVELY to estonia in education, kinda embarrassing losing this bad to a country with 1.3m people and free education sheesh
2022-12-01 16:59
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“Free education” Just pay an extra $10k in taxes every year for “free” shit woooooo
2022-12-01 17:03
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we pay a bit under 30% in taxes, pretty much exactly the same as US, cope
2022-12-01 17:04
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Just looked up an Estonian income tax calculator NO lmao. Average Estonian has less than 1/2 the money of the average American en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposable_house..
2022-12-01 17:06
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very US response, we pay the same taxes as you, but we have a much lower cost of living so it pretty much balances out. For example, home ownership in us is 65.5% and in estonia it's 81.6%, with so much disposable income, why don't you just buy a house? it's because everything costs 10x more in us than it does in estonia.. the tax calculator might confuse you, your employer pays a huge portion of your taxes here and you yourself pay about 25%
2022-12-01 17:13
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Buying a house is stupid, smart people rent and invest. In countries with mass immigration like USA it is not possible for there to be a high home ownership rate, just like Germany. Next?
2022-12-01 17:33
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haaaah "Buying a house is stupid, smart people rent and invest." sounds like a rentor that can't afford to live in a house because it costs 20x your salary. "In countries with mass immigration like USA it is not possible for there to be a high home ownership rate, just like Germany." looking at statistics, immigrants make up 26% of US population, russian russians make up 24% of estonian population, they are like your immigrants, a big portion has lived here for decades and doesn't speak a word of estonian yet estonia still has a higher home ownership rate. funniest cope i've ever seen
2022-12-01 17:39
#137
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Germany ppgod_
"63% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck — including nearly half of six-figure earners" yeah bro, Im sure these people dont buy houses because they would rather invest, definitely not because they are not financially secure.
2022-12-01 18:08
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Yep, due to lifestyle decisions like buying massive homes and Teslas. Imagine thinking 25% of single earners making over $200k a year are living paycheck to paycheck because they’re financially insecure. They eat at nice restaurants and buy lots of shit. Tell me you don’t have a bank account or any financial experience without telling me.
2022-12-01 18:11
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Germany ppgod_
"Tell me you don’t have a bank account" the fuck does that even mean? Who doesnt have a bank account? Also you are in my opinion financially illiterate, if you eat at nice resturants or buy lots of shit but still live paycheck to paycheck.
2022-12-01 18:18
oh god what a stupid comment
2022-12-01 18:08
On most parts you don't score better than Wetern and Northern Europe though. OECD - I would remove the weight for income, as that's already being discussed in the other sources. NL is still higher either way. Income - Yes, America probably wins, but in terms of median wealth: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie.. Where is that money going? Education - You only score high on the reading test, this will sound like cope but: Scoring might be more favourable for native English speaking countries, since English is the dominant language in the western world, they only really need to learn 1 language. I regret feeling the need to engage in this, while you probably believe your statements, it's also a lot of baiting.
2022-12-02 12:05
#60
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Italy MulaManca
Italy does NOT pay well for IT stuff, at least here in Genoa, I make around 1400 Euros a month and my boss, who works on the same fucking company since 1999 makes no more than 2200
2022-12-01 16:36
#3
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Guam iceice_baby
Italy better women,cities,food but i think they are bed englendo
2022-12-01 15:10
4 replies
yes and that is a big factor in making the choice.
2022-12-01 15:12
#78
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Wales dr_gonzo
italian food is horrible, just tons of carbs
2022-12-01 16:50
2 replies
xDDDDDDDDDDDD
2022-12-01 16:55
Like welsh food is any good at all
2022-12-01 16:58
Italy ofc no one wants to go Germany
2022-12-01 15:11
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Unfathomably rare once in a millennium W from you
2022-12-01 15:12
but education is free in Germany
2022-12-01 15:13
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“Free” Learn how taxes work lil bro.
2022-12-01 15:18
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are you dumb? im talking about education. all public universities have no tution fee just have to pay 200-400 euro contribution each semester. expected from NA r brain
2022-12-01 15:20
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Brazil humbl3
So how do employees get paid?
2022-12-01 15:29
*cough* taxes *cough, cough*
2022-12-01 15:39
u can get "free education" before u ever paid any taxes
2022-12-01 16:35
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Cool, and unless he’s planning to move to UAE where there’s no taxes he’s gonna pay it back.
2022-12-01 16:38
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no u dont we dont live in murica lul
2022-12-01 16:41
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My dear Europoor… do you know how taxes work? Do you know what funds “free” colleges which are ranked below the most shit US schools? Wow. Your education never ceases to amaze me.
2022-12-01 16:44
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Ok university is still free in germany dumbo
2022-12-01 16:46
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Pay 50% taxes for “free” university Make US janitor salary for the rest of your life Enlightened Go 20k into debt for top tier US university Pay off within 2 years before the age of 25 Make 6 figure salary and rich forever Savage
2022-12-01 16:48
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Nice dude who asked tho?
2022-12-01 16:50
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Smart German guy. So none found here, unlucko. I will go pay an extra $10 in taxes to wipe my tears with free tissues.
2022-12-01 16:52
"Go 20k into debt for top tier US university Pay off within 2 years before the age of 25 Make 6 figure salary and rich forever" Every US early 20 year old outlook, always funny when they get 120k debt and don't pay it off for 20 years because of the stacked mortgages. And I don't get the bait of 50% taxes in EU, we pay the same as you, employers pay all of your social services taxes.
2022-12-01 17:20
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“120k debt” Nice strawman
2022-12-01 17:31
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it's just an example (looked it up it's 40k, which is still a ton for education), fun that you ignored everything else in the comment
2022-12-01 17:33
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It’s not 40k. Estonians make less than 1/2 the money as Americans. /closed
2022-12-01 17:41
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/open educationdata.org/student-loan-debt-stat.. it is 40k, we do but we also own houses and our cost of living is way down, can you say that you own a house? I arent think so L /closed
2022-12-01 17:43
Better than paying %50 tax to drone strike civilians in Syria
2022-12-01 18:48
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Ip banned LUL RIP BOZO
2022-12-02 05:01
Stop embarrassing yourself bro.
2022-12-02 08:26
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Are u all actually that dumb? state university do not want tuition fees, unless u dont finish in regular time. the normal taxpayer funding this is a complete different point.
2022-12-02 11:37
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Friendly fire- stop embarrassing yourself by shouting at a wall
2022-12-02 11:39
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did u take ur pills yet
2022-12-02 11:44
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My man couldn't understand that I was supporting him haha Nevermind, have a nice day
2022-12-02 11:49
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thats a weird way of saying u support me, mb then
2022-12-02 12:07
#147
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Wales dr_gonzo
everything checks out, clinically braindead
2022-12-01 18:44
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United States Trotzdem21
Germany
2022-12-01 15:11
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Taxes are really high in Germany. 37% tax on 70k euro/yr salary. Any idea about taxes in Italy?
2022-12-01 15:15
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If you’re not smart enough to use google for basic shit like this then you’re never going to be anything in life. Unlucko bro
2022-12-01 15:18
what degree?
2022-12-01 15:18
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Cybersecurity or Computer Science
2022-12-01 15:20
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probably germany then. If it was an economic degree Italy would have been good go for Technical University of Munich.
2022-12-01 15:27
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Germany Oxyden
If he wants to study Computer Science, the RWTH Aaachen University is probably a better choice but the TU of Munich is fine too.
2022-12-01 16:08
BASED SUGGESTION I AM FROM THERE.
2022-12-01 17:33
Germany universities weigh more on your resumé
2022-12-01 15:26
Jermenia
2022-12-01 15:27
I don't know for which degree but as an Italian, I say that in GENERAL there is a lot of theory instead of practice about any topic, myb Germany is more practical. But as far as I know, the Italian degrees are well seen by people for the about of workload that they give us. That is from my experience, maybe another Italian will say differently
2022-12-01 15:42
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haha nice bait 0/8, you dont need degree to cook pizza or pasta
2022-12-01 15:52
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the important thing about pasta is just to let the water boil before you put the pasta in. The pizza outside Italy is just shit so u can do whatever u want with it hahahahaha
2022-12-01 15:56
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pizza outside Naples*
2022-12-01 16:07
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+1
2022-12-01 16:14
#54
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Germany Oxyden
It's the same in Germany, most degrees have a lot of theory but different univerisities may have more theory than others. The amount of theory also depends on the degree obviously.
2022-12-01 16:15
USA - best salary after studies - not so hard language to learn because it's easy to speak english - best quality of life
2022-12-01 15:58
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- guns at walmart - kfc and mcdonalds diet - fat people - fatter people - bestest countri
2022-12-01 16:09
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the fact that most obese people are from usa doesn't mean that he has to become one of them lol
2022-12-01 16:13
Turkey 200% inflation Get blown up in Istanbul Vote in Erdogan Run to Germany after ruining country Still vote Erdogan Turk eye
2022-12-01 16:43
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i said usa bestest contri dude. chill wtf
2022-12-02 04:58
quality of life is not better in the USA, that is a fact
2022-12-01 16:40
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Cheers! I know Italian “education” is 3rd world, but data is worth more than your coping emotions. oecdbetterlifeindex.org/
2022-12-01 16:42
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>germany's life satisfaction is higher than usa's one brutal you posted a link to make fun of him just to prove him right absolute over for americancels
2022-12-01 16:50
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he has done that 3 times in this thread man.. Americans can't read I guess
2022-12-01 16:53
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I mean it’s true, unfortunately. Explains this: mises.org/wire/3-times-many-europeans-mo..
2022-12-02 05:03
Sorry. USA has a better quality of life than 90% of the EU population while also having the richest people in the world and not being a frozen shithole. Cheers.
2022-12-01 16:54
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i don't care, thread was about germany, you posted a link which contradicts your whole point absolutely over for your bonobo IQ
2022-12-01 16:55
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Actually it is about the EU as a whole considering it includes Italy. Even crazier considering USA has 330 million people with mass migration from 3rd world countries and is that much higher. Europoor moment
2022-12-01 16:57
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This whole thread is about OP debating whether to go to germany or not It's so over for your Crab-Eating Macaque IQ
2022-12-01 16:59
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Italy or Germany Two EU countries USA is better than 90% of the EU population in QoL. Also you are poor /clised
2022-12-01 17:02
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90% of EU population which isn't discussed in this thread Also post bank account and I'll post mine right after Let's spice things up, no "you're poor" without proof TLDR: you won't post shit because you're underage
2022-12-01 17:06
excuse you
2022-12-02 08:41
#67
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Indonesia ycrows
isn’t education way more expensive?
2022-12-01 16:41
Germany tbh
2022-12-01 16:13
#90
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France shunbelly
Germany
2022-12-01 16:56
Currently doing an exchange in Milan as part of my masters. Language wise, barely anyone speaks English so you definitely need to know some Italian. Job wise, this might depend on your field of study but in general it isn't easy to get one and the average salary is pretty low. Of course Italy has better food, weather, etc. but career wise it's not very good
2022-12-01 16:58
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Whole Europe is fucked for Englando expect for maybe Germany and Scandinavia When I was in Brussels was the same thing
2022-12-01 17:01
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Europe Lokasch
at universities the percentage of people being able to speak english schould be higher or ?
2022-12-01 17:52
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Yes it should be higher, especially if they have whole courses and degrees (not single exams) in English
2022-12-01 18:14
Yeah that's true, most professors and a lot of Italian students have decent English. It's just the general population like the barber, the person behind the counter in a supermarket, etc. that you can barely communicate with
2022-12-01 18:17
True, but in Brussels it's mainly because most people speak French and don't want to learn English (just like people in France). The Dutch speaking part of Belgium generally speaks English pretty well Also I was kind of just comparing Italy and Germany and there the difference is very noticable
2022-12-01 18:09
that's why I am leaning towards Germany more because everyone says in Italy the language barrier and getting a job is hard
2022-12-02 08:11
Germany good money Italy good food and girls you choose
2022-12-01 17:33
USA way better
2022-12-01 17:39
USA
2022-12-01 17:41
always depends where.
2022-12-01 17:43
USA better but dont come here, we’re full
2022-12-01 18:06
Germany but Italy is better to live so depends what you want more
2022-12-01 20:54
Germany probably has better universities.
2022-12-01 21:00
Germany because they got into the World Cup. Italy lost to Macedonia and didnt qualify. Glad I could help
2022-12-02 08:48
#174
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France KryzzZie
germany is the better choice carreer wise but you will probably have less fun than in italy. But my friend is currently doing a semester in Dresden and it seems like he's enjoying it very much Either way if you're doing it for the degree rather than the experience germany is the no brainer
2022-12-04 20:39
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