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what happened to him? people said he was a top 5 people like 4 months ago, now he sucks...? did the money get to him?
2022-12-02 10:39
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probably the war and a semi permanent stand in...
2022-12-02 10:40
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actually i think people start watching his demos, and he try to switch his best spots to be unpredictable you know, that pretty much it
2022-12-02 11:12
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#19
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CIS edgepy
he is not trying to switch his best spots, he is playing weird positions for him that he didn't play before boomich leave
2022-12-02 11:15
#101
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Yugoslavia kingcys
He’s not switching to be unpredictable, he’s forced bc of new igl and sdy. he’s more than good enough mechanically to get kills in his best positions
2022-12-02 21:15
He is not trying to you know, he is switching his best spots and that's pretty much it.
2022-12-02 21:38
#2
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Ukraine Kellso
He is only 19yo, he will bounce back
2022-12-02 10:46
#3
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Portugal GODranar
Yeah 2022 was a little b1t rough ngl. He'll probably not end up in top20 this year
2022-12-02 10:46
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#4
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Ukraine Kellso
Who is 20th then?
2022-12-02 10:47
21 replies
#6
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Germany |imperator
Kellso
2022-12-02 10:55
Prob fl1t or fame both very solid this year
2022-12-02 11:02
18 replies
#12
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Ukraine Kellso
Their only achievment is major lol
2022-12-02 11:11
17 replies
b0t achivement is winning blast world final qualifer kekw
2022-12-02 11:15
12 replies
#22
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Ukraine Kellso
Major final, Cologne final nothing to you?
2022-12-02 11:19
9 replies
Yes because HLTV looks at stats not team achievements
2022-12-02 12:41
8 replies
they look at evps
2022-12-02 13:19
6 replies
Oh wow he got 1 more evp than Fame and Fl1t, top 10 player for sure
2022-12-02 19:58
5 replies
fame has played only 32 maps on big events this year, thats lower than b1t's playoff maps count
2022-12-02 20:22
4 replies
Kscerato had 15 big events maps last year
2022-12-02 20:30
3 replies
lets not ignore that most of 2021 was online and those events doesnt count in big events filter
2022-12-02 20:34
2 replies
Half is not most
2022-12-02 20:39
1 reply
doesnt change that comparison was bad as 5/8 events kscerato had in 2021 were online + his only evps were online, u couldve used ropz as he did fuck all last year but still got to top20
2022-12-02 21:07
#89
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Ukraine Kellso
but you can't get evp if you have not reached playoffs even
2022-12-02 19:36
#58
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North America ares4458
Won major, blast world finals, should I keep going?
2022-12-02 12:43
1 reply
We are talking about 2022 champ
2022-12-02 12:46
#21
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Well, they also won that ESL Dreamhack Rotterdam tournament, (not S tier) but I'm sure it counts somewhat towards the ranking.
2022-12-02 11:15
#23
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World NukestrikE
its not about achievments as long as players were relevant enough
2022-12-02 11:20
Fl1t has been good All year long b1t hasn’t had the best stats and prob isn’t gonna make it
2022-12-02 11:23
#98
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Wales dr_gonzo
which is more than navi achieved
2022-12-02 20:58
electronic / jame / rain / hunter will be on top 20 spot, hard to say who extacly but im sure one of these four
2022-12-02 12:35
#10
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Almost 100% won't be in the top 20. 1.08 rating against the top 20 across the whole year. You need like minimum of 1.10-1.11 rating to be anywhere close to top 20. The only top 20 player from NaVi this is year is probably s1mple, and yeah, he will probably claim the top 1 spot. Even electronic fell off coz of that igl bullshit.
2022-12-02 11:09
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#25
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
electronic will be top15 100%. His rating is 1.12 and he had lots of evps and playoffs played. B1t also will be in top20 i think
2022-12-02 11:22
34 replies
Elec maybe b1t I don’t think so
2022-12-02 11:24
7 replies
#30
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
I see even elec being in top10
2022-12-02 11:25
6 replies
Nah I don’t think so but top 15 I can see that
2022-12-02 11:26
#34
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Lol no. If he will make it to top 20 he will be at the lower end of it. b1t won't make it, unless he miraculously gets MVP at the Blast World Final (ain't gonna happen).
2022-12-02 11:27
#37
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World NukestrikE
omegalul
2022-12-02 11:27
Elec would barley top 20 and bit won't be even top 20.
2022-12-02 12:34
2 replies
#47
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
Not barely, he will be in top15 for sure. 1.10 rating and couple of tier1 evps is more than enough to be in top15
2022-12-02 12:35
1 reply
Let's see elec would be in top 15 to top 20 range at best.
2022-12-02 12:37
#36
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World NukestrikE
his rating in big events is 1.09(1.07 vs top20/10, 1.09 vs top5) he will be imo somewhere around 17th spot...
2022-12-02 11:26
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#43
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
top15 for sure. I don't see frozen, monesy, spinx, yekindar or hunter being above him
2022-12-02 12:29
16 replies
Yekindar,frozen and monesy has better ratings than electronic. Especially yekindar literally has insane impact ratings which will boost yekindar ranking quite alot.
2022-12-02 12:38
12 replies
#51
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
Yekindar - 1.07 rating Frozen - 1.12 rating but barely played in any playoffs Monesy - 1.13 rating but Elec has 3 evps, while monesy only 1. Also, Monesy's team failed all the season, which will affect overall
2022-12-02 12:37
11 replies
hltv.org/stats/players/13915/yekindar?st.. yekindar has 1.15 ratings as i said even insane impact ratings which will boost yekindar rankings as well. He will be in top 5 to top 10 at best. Frozen has played almost every single play offs this yr except antwerp majors. I think he even got more evp over electronic as well. So he will he ahead of electronic as well most probably.
2022-12-02 12:44
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#59
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
maybe you mean Frozen had played only in Rio playoffs?) Because in other events either they were not participating or they were eliminated early on
2022-12-02 12:43
5 replies
No i think he even played in Kato and cologne play offs as well overall.
2022-12-02 12:44
4 replies
#66
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
Mouz eleminated 9-12th in Katowice 2022 Mouz played only 1 playoff match in Cologne and were eliminated straight away
2022-12-02 12:45
3 replies
Oh ok still i think based on raw ratings frozen chance r higher than electronic to get better rankings overall.
2022-12-02 12:48
2 replies
#73
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
2022-12-02 12:52
1 reply
#61
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
Electronic had 3 evps (Pgl major, Blast spring finals, Cologne). Frozen only may have a chanse in getting evp in rio
2022-12-02 12:44
3 replies
Frozen got evp in epl,cologne and rio as well.
2022-12-02 12:45
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#68
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
No way he get evp in Kato by having 1.10 rating and being eleminated in quarter finals Frozen in Cologne: 1.04 rating Brother pls chech tournament ratings and then say smthing
2022-12-02 12:48
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2022-12-02 12:50
#50
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World NukestrikE
they will be most likely above him(not spinx). as i said around 15+-, definitely not top10
2022-12-02 12:37
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#53
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
no way they will be above him.
2022-12-02 12:38
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#62
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World NukestrikE
you will see yourself...
2022-12-02 12:44
nope, elec has 1.11 raiting on lan vs top 20 and only 18 guys have higher. But Jame and Rain have juat slowly lower and major mvp, althrough hunter has similiar so i think elec will be at the end of top 20
2022-12-02 12:38
7 replies
#54
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
Hltv is not looking only on ratings while forming top20. You should have consider how much maps those 18 guys have played and also their achievments
2022-12-02 12:39
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#64
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World NukestrikE
achievments are almost irrelevant
2022-12-02 12:45
5 replies
#70
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
Really? Why then Elec got top7 in 2021 by having 1.14 rating, while Kserato had 1.16 and was only 15th???
2022-12-02 12:50
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#72
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World NukestrikE
because its not based just on overall rating lol. learn how it works...
2022-12-02 12:51
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#74
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Azerbaijan S1mple2002
That's my point also. Achievments and mvp/evps plays a huge role
2022-12-02 12:52
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#76
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World NukestrikE
omg they dont. stats (and by stats i dont mean only overall rating but also opening kills, clutches, impact, play off rating etc) are BY FAR the most important aspect of hltv top20. mvps and evps are more like tie breakers and achievments are almost irrelevant as long as player was relevant enough... lookt at s1mple in 2019. won only 1 event, reached LITERALLY 1 grand final in big events overall, navi was barely top10 team of that year(8th) and yet he was second above both elige and device solely bcs of stats. again, learn how it works...
2022-12-02 12:57
Sh1ro got more MVP and evp over Niko last yr,but still Niko got top 3 and sh1ro got top 4,stats matters more than MVP/EVP sometimes.
2022-12-02 13:02
Not doing well since Boombl4 left, NAVI having a bad collective as a team, just connect the dots
2022-12-02 10:49
Young talent being inconsistent...wau,water is wet
2022-12-02 10:56
1 reply
Water is not wet though
2022-12-02 11:25
I mean, new igl, war at home, team is not doing well overall and the list is long.. give him time
2022-12-02 11:02
#11
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Russia mshkoda
Looks like management ruined this roster
2022-12-02 11:04
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#14
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Ukraine Kellso
Haha yes lets blame managment. Players have nothing to do with it at all
2022-12-02 11:12
5 replies
#24
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Russia mshkoda
Maybe he degraded himself in addition
2022-12-02 11:24
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#38
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Ukraine Kellso
Yes, didnt care about the game enough while sniffing coke with her schizo wife
2022-12-02 11:28
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#39
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Russia mshkoda
Water and fap was enough so😂 Looks like b1t is less motivated after rookie-honemoon (year) in 2021. And his skill went down. Management kicked igl with whom all stuff works. Pushed b1t to change roles, did not discipline of toxic Sasha and now Navi struggles. Imho. Mi vrode eto obsuzhdali? I remember you hate Boomych, your right.
2022-12-02 11:33
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#40
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Ukraine Kellso
I dont hate boombl4, im stating facts, he was kicked for a reason. And it didnt work with him in navi in 2022, their only achievment is 2nd at major
2022-12-02 11:36
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#41
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Russia mshkoda
Also true, let us hope team will shine again and Sasha became wiser finally and it will be harmony
2022-12-02 11:37
The most overrated player of last years
2022-12-02 11:12
4 replies
best rookie since zywoo?
2022-12-02 11:14
3 replies
m0nesy better
2022-12-02 11:15
2 replies
0/8
2022-12-02 11:25
#94
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Spain Wiricardo
0/8
2022-12-02 20:37
its cuz of sdy, he took his roles, and yet hes playing like shit in them, for example b1t is now playing on banana on inferno, and his stats went down
2022-12-02 11:24
Change of roles
2022-12-02 11:26
There comes a time in every pros life where nothing seems to work right, its good that it came early for b1t he has a alot of time, unlike s1mple, Niko, etc
2022-12-02 11:26
2022-12-02 11:38
15 replies
u mean b1t when no competition and b1t when competition on?
2022-12-02 12:42
12 replies
no competition + played good only when his team perform
2022-12-02 12:45
1 reply
"no competition" yes cuz they were better than anyone and he doesn't perform cuz his team is winning, his team is winning cuz he and s1mple performed better with Boombl4, a proper IGL who makes space for b1t and s1mple, instead of electronic
2022-12-02 13:14
idk about this one, only team that improved alot is faze. vitality had like 1 or 2 playoff runs all year, g2 got worse, c9 got slightly worse. if anything competition at the start of 2022 seemed higher than late 2021 but b1t was still good
2022-12-02 13:26
9 replies
still truth, g2 bought monesy and navi still never beat them in bo3 after it. only in 2 bo1s.
2022-12-02 13:27
8 replies
tbf one of bo3s being played at feb 26th, navi still had better overall results than g2 in 2022
2022-12-02 13:40
7 replies
navi can have better results but still win nothing, its like Liquid who can go in 1/4 1/2 but doesnt win a shit.
2022-12-02 13:41
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bro i mean g2 in fact are the ones who won nothing. nahh say what u want but g2 havent improved their team with these roster moves, just on paper. katowice was honeymoon period for them same as navi at blast and cologne but both teams went to shit afterwards, same could be said about vitality with their epl run but year is not over maybe either of them may play good at blast finals
2022-12-02 13:46
5 replies
still dont see navi beating g2 in bo3 in 2023 too, s1mple too arrogant and sdy is a bot.
2022-12-02 13:46
4 replies
G2 lost against 1win and gamerlegion hahahahahah
2022-12-02 21:25
3 replies
Navi lost to endpoint and nip axaxa
2022-12-03 06:00
2 replies
Ur point ? NIP isn’t bad And Endpoint still > GL, 1WIN
2022-12-03 11:10
1 reply
who said nip is bad? lol
2022-12-03 11:10
b1t with elec igl*
2022-12-02 21:24
1 reply
with elec igl but with sdy being dogshit and making b1t less comfortable in his roles, but yeah elec is to blame too
2022-12-02 21:31
#48
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Finland Majee
the team situation/war situation. But also he changed roles in certain maps inferno comes to mind first. Maybe some other maps aswell. Also navi have seemed disorganized to me in the eye test, s1mple permanent migraine, electonic permanent paper in front of head. Sdy permanent 1,5 rating game or 0,6
2022-12-02 12:36
I watched a lot of his demos during the last 2 t1 events & it's evidently obvious he's slumping individually because he's uncomfortable in his new spots/roles that Blad3 moved him into to compensate for the loss of boombl4, electronic overtaking as IGL, & Sdy addition. I also think navi as a whole are underperforming as well which doesn't help. Going into 2023 when they solidify the roster I fully expect to see him back in his old spots & tapping heads
2022-12-02 13:32
Baaaaaaaad
2022-12-02 13:29
#88
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Lithuania VyyK
to toxic.....
2022-12-02 13:46
you don t understand serioulsy? you all have zero iq.. Boombl4 know how to make him perform .. how to give him best relfex in the game with just a little help. now Boombl4 is gone b1t has average reflex. Boombl4 is not just a igl he know special substance that help to play better, he is a guru. in 2021 he was abusing substance and offcourse some of his teammates also wake up kids ! look at b1t now, my grandma has better reflex.. so war and team problems slow your reflex? i had no idea about that
2022-12-02 20:51
#97
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Finland dvlx
hate to be wrong but I now think boom really was a good igl
2022-12-02 20:54
when the more experienced players are having trouble figuring out their shit, then the youngster in the team is definitely going to be affected by it. Say whatever you might, but the team atmosphere was better with boomich. They need to somehow bring back that lively and joyful atmosphere.
2022-12-02 21:18
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#109
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France Diodele
navi will not have a comfortable atmosphere while tox0mple will be there
2022-12-03 06:19
1 reply
Its almost the same conundrum that Niko has... NaVi was fortunate enough that they made it work with boomich..
2022-12-03 07:04
he needs the fat buff
2022-12-02 21:25
#111
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Germany who|cars
exposed b0t
2022-12-03 07:11
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